Reviewing the Philips 4300 Models

[@rogerflatt8054]

We've used a 4300 Latte Go for several months now, and overall, it's awesome. Noisy? Like most machines, a little loud. Great way to wake up my wife - the smell of freshly ground coffee is just the clincher! Philips recommended strongly. (Latte Go essential!)

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Thanks for sharing

[@jennifermcallister11]

Can you use anything besides milk in the milk frother? For example, can you use flavored creamer instead?

[@GayleStormborn]

On the 3200 and 4300 models, what is the highest temperature that brews the coffee and milk ? Thank you for your reply.

[@massad105]

Would be buying this machine mainly for coffee, espresso, cappuccino and latte. Can you tell me what the different drink volume options are for the coffee?

[@davidkilmnick5820]

Thanks for the review. Considering the 4300 Latte Go and the DeLonghi Magnifa Evo. Cannot find or figure out the largest cup of regular coffee you can make with the 4300? Is it 8oz or less or more? Thanks

[@06351CT]

Some how Amazon in the US had 4 of the 4300 for $750 which I though was a great deal. I did not find the grinding, brewing or frothing process extremely loud. Seems louder where you are filming from. Still breaking in the machine and tweaking the different drinks. But definitely easier and less time consuming than a separate grinder and espresso machine set up! Thnx for the review of the different machines.

[@ecscoffeeinc]

That is a great deal! Good luck

[@stevebiggs1822]

PSA: i have the 3200 if you want to make it super quiet drape a down (puffy) coat over it. It cuts down the sound by 70%. Pro tip for a sneaky and quiet am coffee. 💡

[@sawapatkijpittayarit7624]

How would you compare with Delonghi magnifica ECAM 22110SB? Thanks a lot in advance.

[@scottthornhill6008]

Can you adjust how much air is in the milk for different drinks with the LatteGo? Latte vs cappuccino, etc.

[@ecscoffeeinc]

You cannot adjust it but the machine does....albeit

[@scottthornhill6008]

@@ecscoffeeinc Thank you!

[@maximillionfrommelt8393]

Is there a major difference between the LatteGo system from the 3200 to the Upper Levels in the Philips series?

[@cocacolavsdrpepper]

I wonder if you could get a custom glass water tank? I am trying to remove plastic from my life where I can

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Nothing available on the market. Plus the inside has a plastic brewer so not really possible. Look at Lelit, Rocket manual machines

[@cocacolavsdrpepper]

@@ecscoffeeinc Thanks for responding! I am still interested in getting the Phillips 4300. Do you think that it's a good value option or do you suggest upgrading to the 5400 or something else?

[@ey5644]

Curious, why should you never use flavored coffee through the machine? If it’s because the oils going through the heating element could cause issues, I would think that the natural coffee oils could do the same.

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Flavoured coffee has a lot of oil on it and it could damage the grinder by clogging. Regular dark roasted coffee would have the same effect

[@liewpg2266]

Any function just for hot milk?

[@hichemmezioud2673]

I agree with her; that milk container sits in a flimsy way as well as the plastic water container being plastic I have to say but overall it does the job!

[@J-ZIM]

I have the 4300 Latte Go and it doesn't seem flimsy to me. The whole machine is well built and I don't know what I'd do without it

[@liewpg2266]

I don't see latte button in either machine, how do we make latte in this case?

[@ecscoffeeinc]

These machines have both latte macchiato, and cafe au lait as latte options :)

[@robinfriedman6911]

I'm hoping you can answer any or all of these 3 questions: 1. While most reviewers of the 3200 series with Latte Go had very positive things to say about it, a few reviewers had negative comments about the quality of the foam, noting that it was somewhat thin. I'm wondering if you had the same opinion of the 3200 in this regard, and if so, do you think that the 4300 Latte Go series solves this problem? 2. In another review of the 4300/5400 series, a reviewer stated as follows: "the developers have reduced the temperature of the whipped milk to just over 60°C. As a result, the temperature of the finished cappuccino in the cup is about 65°C, which corresponds to the classic recipe." Given that I am someone who likes very hot cappuccino, this concerned me and made me think that I should perhaps stick with the 3200 series, given the hotter temperature. What did you think about the temperature of the foam? 3. Finally, if I'm only interested in cappuccino and not any of the other drinks and if the ability to set user profiles is not important to me, is there any reason not to buy the 3200 Latte Go? Does the 4300 Latte Go series offer any distinct improvements over the 3200 Latte Go series, making it worth the higher price and the remaining wait time? Thanks so much for your help!

[@ecscoffeeinc]

To answer your questions....1 Yes it is a bit thin for cappuccino in my opinion. 2. Temperature of foam was decent, but not hot hot. 3. Not really, just more drinks and a nicer control panel.

[@fadiacudry3185]

I’m going through the same dilemma. I had the 4300 for a month now and the latte is just warm with too much foam not enough milk as the lattego limited to 6 oz. I’m thinking to switch to the wand model and also 3200 since it’s cheaper and I’m only interested in latte. What did you end up buying?

[@johnwagner3254]

I liked this comparison of the two 4300's. May I suggest you have a program comparing the 4300 Latte Go to the competition around $1k such as Miele, Jura, Gaggia, etc. I am shopping for a machine right now and head to head comparisons would really help.

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Will put it on the list. Check out our other videos on our channel. Lots of comparisons.

[@Yamaha_Bolt]

I need a system that separates decaf beans from regular beans. Does this exist? Using the separate part is a bit of a pain and requires pre-ground coffee, which defeats the purpose.

[@greveeen]

Probably does, but that is most likely something much more expensive. Ive seen some cafeteria were they had multiple containers for different coffe beans and even chocolate powder

[@kiddcisco]

not within a reasonable price point, if you want decaf you just toss a scoop in the shoot, 5400 on the way!

[@pikewyo]

I just bought the 4300 and I am noticing when I froth milk it does not dispense the amount of oz that I select. For example, I put 4 oz of milk in the Lattego and selected the 3.7oz milk froth, when it was done, I still had a substantial amount of milk left in the lattego. Or I put in 8 oz and then select the 8 oz milk froth and I still had half of the lattego full of milk. Is this normal?

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Keep in mind the froth will add volume (air bubbles) so if the cup holds 8oz of milk and the latte go is filled with the same amount, the final result may include the bubbles which would leave some left the latte go container

[@keithsturgill5152]

Is there a difference in the grinding/brewing noise level between the 3200 and 4300?

[@ecscoffeeinc]

About the same

[@carinaoliveira8194]

Hi there are you able to tell me which level should I grind my ground coffee for me use in the machine.

[@ecscoffeeinc]

It will depend on the coffee. Just start with factory settings. I never change mine to be honest.

[@cherenerob]

I have 2 questions. First is it okay to put heavy cream in the latte go? Second what kind of coffee beans should I be looking at? Please keep in mind I've never has an espresso machine before and know nothing about them. Thank you

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Hi Cherene First, no to the cream. it will not froth. As for beans look for espresso roasts, medium and not oily.

[@jokellob]

What are the options for milk level with the LatteGo?

[@Snmocnnfox11]

Are there any of these machines where the heating parts are not made of plastic ??

[@ecscoffeeinc]

To avoid any plastic you need to look at manual machines like Lelit, Gaggia, Rancillio, Rocket etc

[@shaneyg1988]

What is the temperature like on the milk based drinks with the lattego versions? We had a mellita ts smart fully auto but returned it due to luke warm milk in the drinks. It was a shame because it was a really good machine other than that

[@ecscoffeeinc]

The temperature on Philips will be similar if not exactly the same as the Miele. If you are looking for extra hot milk, we recommend a machine with a steaming wand :)

[@oscartafolla9272]

Dumb question but is it possible to switch the classic milk frother with the LatteGo carafe on the Philips 4300? I’ve been reading the reviews and it seems the classic gives you better foam but the LatteGo is just so convenient.

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Good question but no you cannot:(

[@RayRay-jq8en]

What the difference between the 4300 and the 5200 series? Also i read that the milk was not as hot as the 3400 series, is that true?

[@ecscoffeeinc]

We have a video on the 5400 here kzbin.info/www/bejne/f17EfXVop7ulZ5I

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Milk is the same, just more options on the 5400

[@pwright57]

Thanks for the review. The 4300 is looking favourite, if I can track one down in the UK. All these semi-auto machines seem do a latte macchiato by default. Is there a way to make a latte on the 4300 and lose the foam for this tipple or is it a case of using that that well known kitchen implement, the spoon!?

[@ecscoffeeinc]

We did a video of every drink on the 5400...it may have what you want kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaWToGihpr6LapI

[@geno816]

When do they launch?

[@ecscoffeeinc]

April-May 2021

[@kingjay4354]

When is it coming out and what will be the price?

[@ecscoffeeinc]

In Canada, from us the retail price is on our website. Should be here in March. ecscoffee.com/collections/coming-soon/products/philips-4300-super-auto-espresso-latte-go-ep4347-94?variant=32255347523642

[@jasonblackmere142]

How difficult is it to clean the grinder part of the machine?

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Typically you can use a grinder cleaner tab and it will do the trick. GRINDZ is that one to look for.

[@yanndavidson6222]

Quick question, ive seen the 4300 at a price point of 352€ in Riga but 1200$ in Canada, why? Should I buy one here and bring it back even though they are working on 220v?

[@ecscoffeeinc]

No idea why to be honest. Could be Canadian requirements are different, plus container costs etc. . Send me a link to the price and I will ask Philips

[@carleengaliardo]

Temperature on low is plenty hot. Medium is really hot. I think high would produce burns.

[@stevehoge]

Would it have killed Philips to state the actual temperature?

[@Yamaha_Bolt]

Why never any flavored coffee? What's the temp of the hot water? Needs to be at least 70 degrees to be useful

[@Iwish4zombies]

Would like to know as well

[@J-ZIM]

Flavored beans have additional aromatic oils or additional flavorings added to them. These beans have oils that will affect the operation of the espresso machine and the residual flavor they leave behind will become embedded and absorbed by the machine components and compromise the taste of future coffees. The oils can also clog the screen in the brew unit

[@danieljacobson2739]

Its ok to put ground flavored coffee in the machine, right? Its the flavored whole beans that are oily thats the problem?

[@ecscoffeeinc]

No. Do not use flavoured coffee. Not just the oils from the beans in a grinder are an issue, the flavoring from ground coffee will be hard to get out of the actual brewing mechanism. Your regular coffee will have that flavor in it because it uses the same brewer. so NOooooooooooooo! :)

[@danieljacobson2739]

@@ecscoffeeinc haha thanks for quickly replying. Guess we’re keeping the Keurig for my wife

[@ecscoffeeinc]

@@danieljacobson2739 smart :)

[@J-ZIM]

Flavored beans have additional aromatic oils or additional flavorings added to them. These beans have oils that will affect the operation of the espresso machine and the residual flavor they leave behind will become embedded and absorbed by the machine components and compromise the taste of future coffees. The oils can also clog the screen in the brew unit

[@mjmurphy53711608]

Looks like the 4300 won't do a double shot in a milk based drink - I see the double setting for espreso, but once you did the cappuccino it didn't have the double shot option like the 5400.

[@barrybrown7892]

Saw your review of the 5300 Lattego - does this 4300 have the add-a-shot feature? I’m coming from a cuisinart grind-and-brew drip coffee maker. It’s safe to say that either the Philips lattego or Jura D6 is going to provide me a better cup of coffee. Right? And now, the last question. Knowing from where I’m coming, do you recommend the Lattego or the D6? Thanks!

[@ecscoffeeinc]

4300 does not have the extra shot. And yes your coffee will be better. Limitations are on the size of the cup from an espresso machine and also it will be more european so it will have Crema.

[@barrybrown7892]

@@ecscoffeeinc lastly, what are the main differences between the Philips Lattego 4300 and 5400 models? Thanks in advance!

[@ecscoffeeinc]

@@barrybrown7892 Have a look at the video we did here kzbin.info/www/bejne/f17EfXVop7ulZ5I

[@jimnewton4534]

If I already use brita filtered water, am I forced to use the redundant filter in the machine?

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Not forced to, it is silly to use both really. Not sure if the filters in the Brita match up to the filtration on the Philips so would check first.

[@just4funallday508]

I suggest it depends on the hardness of your water. In Germany the water is very hard I would use both. Sure it's redundant, but then we're talking about a $1,000+ machine and $100 for the filters ($25 for for the filter every 5k cups and the machine is rated for 20k cups).

[@chillmoney89]

Does the 4300 lattego model have an “extra shot” feature like the 5400? Thanks!

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Hi Colin! No, the 4300 does not have the extra shot feature like the 5400. However you can always brew a second shot separately into your beverage to give it a little extra oomph. Happy brewing!

[@louisd95714]

Thank you for this review! This is on my short list to purchase. How would you say it compares to the higher priced Saeco, Jura, and also comparable Gaggia machines? Also, how do the espresso shots taste? Would you say they compare to coffee houses that use those multi thousand dollar espresso machines?

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Good question and had to answer. Vs Jura, it does not compete. Jura, in my opinion makes a better quality product as does Miele. Gaggia is more like the old school Saeco that Philips used to be (Philips bought Saeco a few years back and only started using the brand Philips in NA) but it is nice for the price point

[@louisd95714]

@@ecscoffeeinc Thank you for your reply and honest opinion. Yes, I read a lot of good things about Jura, but their prices are very high. But as the saying goes, “You get what you pay for” P.S. I subscribed, and you deserve many more subscribers.

[@christerman]

I have a Jura E9. About 11 years old. Been overhauled twice by Jura. I just looked and I am up to 8,000 shots. My wife doesn't like it and has a hard time using it when I am out of town. This seems a pretty good alternative with one-touch latte's. Having used a Jura for years, is this Phillips/Saeco machine going to be "good enough"?

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Hmmm. tough one. Being a huge fan of Jura, and it being in my opinion a superior product, I would always put Jura ahead of Philips. The Philips will be great but it is not a Jura.

[@jordanlawson1521]

I am still struggling to get stronger coffee despite increasing strength icon, water hardness and adjusting grind to 1 ( fine grind). Any recommendations?

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Try a different bean. Make sure they are fresh and not grocery store. It can make a difference. There is always the option of throwing another shot of espresso onto a coffee if you are pulling a lot of liquid.

[@swamivandermerwe]

Yeah, use fresh roadted different beans Medium roast only, do two espressos on full bean max , then add water after to your liking.

[@Crookymonsta1]

The only model I'm interested in is standing in between the machines

[@codetwohigh]

Yeah dude I wouldn’t even leave the house. Coffee and her all day.

[@PowhiroMus]

Great review, so very informative

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Glad you think so!

[@MiNombreEsEscanor]

No one talks about the taste of the espresso that this machine produces😒Is it good? Is the taste as good as semi pro machines espresso?

[@carleengaliardo]

It’s really not loud at all.

[@DavidPetryk]

I wish they would make a model with a real steam wond and not a pannarello.

[@MrDorson]

great video!

[@Satine_Moisant]

Those are really fast shots. Anyway to dial them in? This may not be the machine for me.

[@ecscoffeeinc]

You can adjust the grind size on this machine but that is all... If you are looking for something with more control we would suggest looking at a semi automatic machine like the Breville Barista Express, or the Breville Barista Express Impress :)

[@cocacolavsdrpepper]

@ECS COFFEE Espresso & Coffee Gear Thanks for responding! I am still interested in getting the Phillips 4300. Do you think that it's a good value option or do you suggest upgrading to the 5400 or something else?

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Great Value option. 5400 is a bit overkill and only a few extra features vs the 4300

[@stevehoge]

Why would you make us sit through all the verbiage in realtime but then fast forward through the actual shot extraction? Short of being able to taste the result a look at the actual extraction with a closeup in realtime - was that 10 sec, 30 sec, 50 sec? - is the only other way to judge the quality of the shot.

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Good Question. Our clients are typically of two camps.. The ones that do exactly that..time the extraction and use visual clues as you note. The other are those that simply want to get what they order at the cafe at home. The second group tends to buy the superautomatics and many don't even know what some of the names of the drinks mean. In this case, given the price point of the machine and its capabilities, we find the latter is who is interested in this machine. So we wanted to show what the drinks are, and what they look as it speaks more to them.

[@barryoneill5722]

Since he sells them, his not exactly un-biased...

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Obviously we sell them hence the channel name...but we sell most brands in the same price range and review them all equally

[@markca8937]

For me the DeLonghi Magnifica has the better quality of the Machine..

[@AustinAdams]

Nice review thanks! Not relevant but you guys are adorable.

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Thanks for watching!

[@MdArman-co5yf]

Nais video

[@BarniIbrahim-k6n]

Please 70#

[@sslusshy]

I don’t understand why people are so worried about the sound lol

[@BarniIbrahim-k6n]

Please 70#❤

[@BarniIbrahim-k6n]

2'000#❤

[@Thomas45069]

The 4300 is a huge disappointment - coffee is like light brown water, almost zero crema. In addition to that, ZERO support. My 10 years old Saeco Incanto Deluxe made 1000 times better coffee.

[@ecscoffeeinc]

Sorry to hear this!

[@Thomas45069]

@@ecscoffeeinc lol - no worries, I returned ours and got a Delonghi Dinamica. What a difference... I doubt that I will ever spend money on a Philips/Saeco machine again.

[@BarniIbrahim-k6n]

20000#

[@taimoorkhan8203]

can i have a latte with her...

[@cukymonster33]

What a nice smile she has.😊🙃