reviewing your takes on animation (60FPS follow-up)

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Noodle

Noodle

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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
2:12 - Comments
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12:36 - The single biggest complaint
14:21 - Even more comments
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@JoCat
@JoCat 3 жыл бұрын
gamers aren't oppressed but they should be
@stardokplay4923
@stardokplay4923 3 жыл бұрын
Am gamer, can confirm
@whyudoit4009
@whyudoit4009 3 жыл бұрын
Am a gamer here, fucking exterminatus us.
@gambitschema
@gambitschema 3 жыл бұрын
bring an end to gamerkind PUT ME ON THE CROSS BOSS
@Iuseen
@Iuseen 3 жыл бұрын
I am going to start a campaign to end all gamers.
@whyudoit4009
@whyudoit4009 3 жыл бұрын
@@Iuseen idea, Gaming Convention, nuke.
@user-cy7bg5qy4k
@user-cy7bg5qy4k 3 жыл бұрын
“Sadly not everybody alive today is James Baxter” *sad not James Baxter noises*
@dovahkiin_brasil
@dovahkiin_brasil 3 жыл бұрын
@@lemons2246 he sounds like someone who would backstabs me
@supersolomob422
@supersolomob422 3 жыл бұрын
*sad alive noises*
@theasexualidiot4803
@theasexualidiot4803 3 жыл бұрын
Now am I James Basker?
@lemons2246
@lemons2246 3 жыл бұрын
@Whimsy don't worry if we work hard enough and have the passion we can be equals to him, however hard it may be
@uhohmemebiggestboy212
@uhohmemebiggestboy212 3 жыл бұрын
I can now see another horse from adventure time that goes around sadly saying "not jaaammess Baxter"
@zarkflappysheep
@zarkflappysheep 3 жыл бұрын
dude james baxter is my fucking hero
@labrynthe5972
@labrynthe5972 3 жыл бұрын
What are you doing with less likes in this comment section than I have?
@silence.9376
@silence.9376 3 жыл бұрын
Damn that first guy , I'll get u next time.
@labrynthe5972
@labrynthe5972 3 жыл бұрын
@@silence.9376 owned
@Mister_Stink_Drink
@Mister_Stink_Drink 3 жыл бұрын
james Baxter CAN AND WILL defeat jiiren.
@TrueKirb
@TrueKirb 3 жыл бұрын
Jaaames Baaxterrr
@billxrl4154
@billxrl4154 4 ай бұрын
"The artist's intent doesn't matter" could be shorthand for "I've never held a colored pencil in my entire life".
@DavidPolley-ek9bh
@DavidPolley-ek9bh 3 ай бұрын
Lmao
@AluminumFusion22
@AluminumFusion22 3 ай бұрын
*Asmongold sweating furiously*
@wozzle_buh
@wozzle_buh Ай бұрын
bro tattled on themselves so hard with that one
@coocato
@coocato Ай бұрын
@@AluminumFusion22 asmongold is like the elon musk of gaming and shit takes regarding gaming
@zamfir2005
@zamfir2005 26 күн бұрын
@@coocato He's got good takes, he's got bad takes. Like everyone. I'd say he's just your average human being who was lucky enough to come on top of the mess that is twitch. He is no role model, he is no negative example of negative examples. He is a human, and as with other humans, one can agree or disagree. I sometimes stumble on clips of his, and at times I find myself agreeing, at times I could come up with an entire thesis against his opinion.
@NutyRiver
@NutyRiver 9 ай бұрын
3D modeler here: we rig models with bones (think an articulated doll) and then pose them to animate. This is automatically interpolated by the game engine. The reason we do this is for flexibility. Here’s some examples: - some games have a walking animation and a running animation, and code the game to mix between the two depending on how far you push the joystick - going in and out of animations is easier. If you move a character left or right, you can interpolate between the two motions - if you animate a character doing something like picking something up, you can make the animation additive so that the animation will work no matter whether the character is sitting, standing, running etc. you can also multiply variables so if they pick up a large object the animation will scale - running up and down a slope may require telling the computer to lift the feet up higher or lower than normal - frame rate changes So basically, flexibility is the reason! In games where you can do almost anything, you can never truly guess everything a player will do or every angle they’ll look from. So instead, animations are made to be scalable and additive for that reason. The position and rotation of bones is recorded in hard numbers. In fact, there’s a lot more math involved than you’d think. It’s not any harder or easier than 2D hand animation, just different, with different requirements (games need to run at 60fps so players can have appropriate time to react and also not get motion sick). Some stylized games (genshin, honkai, guilty gear) will have capped frame rates on their animations. But that’s an illusion. The game still runs at 60fps, but they take more care to manually cap the frames of character animations to have that level of control and intent you talked about. Sorry about the ramblings, I hope they made sense at all! Math is really the name of the game here, but it’s a tool like any other that requires skill and intent
@joshuam2714
@joshuam2714 5 ай бұрын
Seriously, super interesting read. Thanks!
@bejcsmith334
@bejcsmith334 4 ай бұрын
Comment hall of fame🎉
@whoisezekiel2099
@whoisezekiel2099 3 ай бұрын
yes inject that knowledge STRAIGHT into my brain
@lolliii5477
@lolliii5477 3 ай бұрын
@@whoisezekiel2099: ow
@gasmask2373
@gasmask2373 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining, I seriously can't believe people dumb down all the work you do to pressing a button and applying it to AN INTIERLY DIFFERENT MEDIUM which is 2d animation, thanks for the knowledge
@ceno0
@ceno0 3 жыл бұрын
"Gamers have seen the future" Cyberpunk 2077 trailer song "hyper - spoiler" starts to play
@Mufraan
@Mufraan 3 жыл бұрын
you have a tick next to your name, I must like
@signor_upb
@signor_upb 3 жыл бұрын
True
@chJohnJobs
@chJohnJobs 3 жыл бұрын
Bro, when the two heavys comeon, you know its getting real
@sirmikethygreat4903
@sirmikethygreat4903 3 жыл бұрын
why tf are you here?
@depressedengineer5766
@depressedengineer5766 3 жыл бұрын
YE
@Zedrinbot
@Zedrinbot 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly _still_ don't get how people can look at interpolated 60 fps footage of something made for between 12 to 24 and think it looks better with the weird, smooth movement between poses that hold for just a LITTLE too long and think that it looks good. It looks more noticeably staggered to me, and that's before even considering artistic intent. Really it'll only look good if the media in question was made for interpolation.
@derpylion6734
@derpylion6734 3 жыл бұрын
Not poor taste, broke taste
@comradedogma4957
@comradedogma4957 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, but as a gamer I agree.
@icycrusader1947
@icycrusader1947 3 жыл бұрын
It gets even worse when you add words onto the frames, they get all smudged...and sad.
@ODST_Republic
@ODST_Republic 3 жыл бұрын
I feel as interpreted videos have no personality anymore once they do it.
@JmKrokY
@JmKrokY 3 жыл бұрын
Ok
@skdl_
@skdl_ 10 ай бұрын
it's been 2 years and yet "GAMERS HAVE SEEN THE FUTURE" still makes me laugh every time
@d3lta971
@d3lta971 Ай бұрын
fr bro
@-CaramelSoda-
@-CaramelSoda- Ай бұрын
BECAUSE THEY HAVE!!!! I AM A GAMER AND SUPER SMART (I have an F in math)
@kreppa8813
@kreppa8813 Ай бұрын
@@-CaramelSoda- i'm a gamer and i too can see the future. my next maths test will be a 0/100
@plussh_boy
@plussh_boy 23 күн бұрын
we sadly have NOT seen the future (atleast not well)
@user-zy4nc6ek4c
@user-zy4nc6ek4c 17 күн бұрын
Now way the I game animations are 30 fps
@flarigrar7114
@flarigrar7114 5 ай бұрын
Not sure if anyone's gonna see this on an old video, but game developer here Game animations do have a base frame rate (usually 30 fps, unless it's an Arc Sys case) but the game engine sees the seconds rather than the frames. You can animate a 60 frame animation at 30 fps, but the game engine will see "This animation is 2 seconds" and show it at the game's current frame rate. I've both made my own games (small indie prototype projects, but they're in 3D) and I've made the Master Form mod for KH3, and the frame rate of KH3's (and my own) animations are 30 fps (a lot of times, individual animation files will have a setting to actually set the animation frame rate and interpolation will take over if needed, so you got that part right). Please keep in mind that this is the standpoint from a 3D dev, not 2D
@_RETR01
@_RETR01 5 ай бұрын
finally a answer thank you
@flarigrar7114
@flarigrar7114 5 ай бұрын
@@_RETR01 Too bad no one's gonna see this, though (except you, clearly)
@DiegoXRA
@DiegoXRA 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info
@michaelcirco3948
@michaelcirco3948 3 ай бұрын
For 2D, there are polygonal games that animate more or less the same as 3D games, but pixel animation is nowhere close. First, you gotta differentiate between the frames and the frame rates. Mario's run cycle in Super Mario Bros 2 animates very quickly, but it consists of 2 frames looping. Cuphead was made with traditional cel animation, mostly on 2s, but in game those poses don't necessarily run at 12fps. Then you have things like fighting games that are all over the place. A jump kick could consist of a single pose, but it's designed to seamlessly transition into other animations such as a jump block or a landing. Combos or special moves in the same game could easily have 24 frames. I guess a good baseline is a modern pixel platformer will usually have 6-12 frames per animation, but those animations could play anywhere from 6 to 60fps depending on the effect the animator is going for.
@soulstisalvadon
@soulstisalvadon 3 ай бұрын
This is accurate. (also a game developer (sort of...) )
@sym7434
@sym7434 2 жыл бұрын
shoutout to the guy who implied gamers are a race
@leilapoole3309
@leilapoole3309 2 жыл бұрын
There are some people who call themselves the "PC master race" and I think they're confused about what that actually means.
@leilapoole3309
@leilapoole3309 2 жыл бұрын
@Proto~p I was just spittballing reasons why some gamers think it's racist when people don't like them.
@leilapoole3309
@leilapoole3309 2 жыл бұрын
@Proto~p I also don't trust them either.
@okaybutwhythough7456
@okaybutwhythough7456 2 жыл бұрын
*"With the glass ceiling broken, all the oppressed groups shall prosper, especially the most oppressed group of all.....GAMERS"*
@Bpaulman
@Bpaulman 2 жыл бұрын
BUT THEY HAVE SEEN THE FUTURE! seriously I laughed so hard on that comment
@fredrickreloaded4488
@fredrickreloaded4488 3 жыл бұрын
"the market will decide" *the market will also decide on child labor if you let it*
@Brecondo
@Brecondo 3 жыл бұрын
That's not even the main reason I'd keep an-caps away form children. lol
@luggy2000
@luggy2000 3 жыл бұрын
Nice comment made me lulw
@johnnymonsters9717
@johnnymonsters9717 3 жыл бұрын
No just slave wages
@orangejoe2147
@orangejoe2147 3 жыл бұрын
And slavery too
@wingraptorsundaughter
@wingraptorsundaughter 3 жыл бұрын
@@Brecondo but they gotta secure the career of their "girlfriends"
@luminxscent5235
@luminxscent5235 9 ай бұрын
"i couldnt care less what the animator was trying to achieve" This alone defeats the whole point of animation-
@parkernelson4909
@parkernelson4909 5 ай бұрын
When I heard that I couldn't help but ask THEN WHY ARE EVEN WATCHING IT
@LeBonkJordan
@LeBonkJordan 3 ай бұрын
"motherfucker how do you think our ancestors survived. how do you think folklore formed. culture. music. art. PURPOSE????? do you think everything must be commodified? sold? weighed to be valued? has the rot in your soul spread so far you cannot find value in anything not spoken in numbers??? it's FUN. THAT'S WHY. THE PURPOSE IS THE ACT, THE MESSAGE IS THE MEDIUM, THE SYMBOL IS THE STORY. it brings people joy for its mere existence and that IS the point. existence is its purpose alone" -almostsweetangel
@RatSayingWoosh
@RatSayingWoosh 10 ай бұрын
Gameplay animator here, we animate at 30 and let engines interpolate, and sometimes it breaks animations so we add notifiers to flag parts to turn off interpolation
@emperorfaiz
@emperorfaiz 3 ай бұрын
No idea such function existed.
@blinkx1070
@blinkx1070 13 күн бұрын
Also a game animator here: This is highly contextual and varies from production to production. For example: I worked at EA in their mo-cap department and we processed the data at 60 FPS and actually down-sampled it to 30. Now, I'm working on a game doing stepped animation at 60 FPS.
@wavesofbabies
@wavesofbabies 3 жыл бұрын
The mo-cap argument is so funny because it's not like animators don't go in and tweak everything to hell and back afterwards.
@blongus
@blongus 3 жыл бұрын
do you work in mo-cap animation?
@CullanSanders
@CullanSanders 3 жыл бұрын
they definitely didnt for that donkey kong show tho
@RyandBurtson
@RyandBurtson 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t there hecka mocap done for fight scenes in The Clone Wars but then they went back and fixed it to make it fit in with the rest of the animation? That would be kind of like using mocap as a tool (just like Noodle said lol)
@luminomancer5992
@luminomancer5992 3 жыл бұрын
@@RyandBurtson they do that for pretty much everything mo-cap from what I know. raw mo-cap data always has little twitches and bugs here and there, so for most big productions, even movie productions they do a manual pass over the whole thing
@christopherherr7561
@christopherherr7561 3 жыл бұрын
@@luminomancer5992 I used to think that it was raw data. Found out from Corridor Digital this exact thing.
@chicofrio8074
@chicofrio8074 3 жыл бұрын
Interpolated 60 fps videos do look “lifelike”… …If the aspect of life you’re trying to replicate is standing up too fast with iron deficiency.
@dudenamedchris3325
@dudenamedchris3325 3 жыл бұрын
You have such a way with words!
@axelord4ever
@axelord4ever 3 жыл бұрын
Seizures are part of life, my dude.
@m4t7eo
@m4t7eo 3 жыл бұрын
holy shit til i need iron
@D00000T
@D00000T 3 жыл бұрын
remember to consume enough iron people
@mr.preston1632
@mr.preston1632 3 жыл бұрын
Because the world is a tech demo
@anotherdnb
@anotherdnb 8 ай бұрын
The problem with people who like interpolation is basically the same with AI "artists": they see art as the means to an end. It's not. Art has meaning, and if it's made a certain way, that means that the creator of said art wanted their message to be like that. It's not just a thing that you see and go "wow that looks cool" it's a way of expression, be it by creating worlds, illustrating emotions or simply sketching something, you're expressing yourself and your world.
@CoalOres
@CoalOres 4 ай бұрын
Subscribers of Aestheticism would disagree with you. Sometimes you do just want something that pleases the eye, for me the meaning of something, be it art or film, is a nice bonus after the experience itself.
@lolliii5477
@lolliii5477 3 ай бұрын
yes. i once drew questionable things out of small dose of rage, it's not very bad, but everyone just focus on the "bad".
@insert_afm
@insert_afm 2 ай бұрын
I have agreements on both sides. On one hand, the process of creating art is very special and I think ruining artistic intent will usually take away a part of your experience as a viewer. But, if you really like it more, I don't see a problem with that. My real issue is with everyone being rude and yelling that his is the definite future and all other ways are bad.
@SaHaRaSquad
@SaHaRaSquad 18 күн бұрын
@@CoalOres I do want stuff that pleases the eye, and that's why I hate AI "art". I've looked at enough of those and tried it myself long enough to say that 99.99% of its output is bad in at least one detail and trying to get something decent out of it feels like haggling with a slot machine. Also those AI models obviously trend towards the average image you can see on the internet so if you want to produce something with it that's significantly different or actually creative the thing will fight you at every corner. It's great for stock photos and instagram model tier slop but there's already enough of those for many lifetimes. AI art is like an artist who mastered the most advanced techniques but skipped all the basic lessons and I can see that even as a non-artist.
@CoalOres
@CoalOres 17 күн бұрын
@@SaHaRaSquad Yeah, I would say 99.9% is accurate. But you can (and should) cherry pick - generate a batch of 1000, cherry pick the best one, and suddenly you probably have one that's actually good. Ask for something simple, concept art for instance, without many details and I'd say the success rate is 1/10. You can also use inpainting to fix local errors without redoing the whole thing. You can adjust parameters like lowering the CFG scale for far more variance (I find this adds imperfections to skin for instance, which gives people a less plastic look), in fact I very rarely see people doing this. And then there's the fact that even bad/flawed results look good and interesting, it might be a bad artist but it's a hell of a lot better than me I'll tell you that (as you would expect for something that has absorbed the collective work of billions).
@rojnx9
@rojnx9 8 ай бұрын
This video is animated at about 0.05fps on paddlepop sticks, and looks great. We don't need higher framerates. AAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
@daniellebittner13
@daniellebittner13 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone who says that animators are “lazy” for not animating in 60fps have no idea what they’re talking about. 60fps would almost triple the budget and time it would take to make ANYTHING animated. If the industry as a whole decided to only start animating in 60 from now on, the animation industry would cease to exist. Companies would refuse to fund new shows or movies because it would be too expensive
@purplemoss3313
@purplemoss3313 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they seem to want to live in a world where animated movies are released years apart and all animation KZbinrs move to onlyfans to make back the money they missed for having to spend a year making a 3 min video Animatics with 1-12 frames a second are proof enough that creativity and enjoyment isn't tied to frame rate
@zanly5039
@zanly5039 3 жыл бұрын
i animated my first-ever short film in 60fps because i was convinced it would look so much better than 24, without even slightly considering how much harder that would be wow that was an awful decision on my end
@meizapple6203
@meizapple6203 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, animating in 60 fps is hell
@theera9514
@theera9514 3 жыл бұрын
People who think animators are lazy either under-estimate how hard animating is or expect animators to work 24/7 and have no life outside of the animation program
@nightcorex2350
@nightcorex2350 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it took me three hour to make like a five second animation of a ball in 12 fps
@PringusMcDingus
@PringusMcDingus 3 жыл бұрын
wonder how interpolated paper and cardboard would look like
@GabeDoodles_channel
@GabeDoodles_channel 3 жыл бұрын
Yea same here
@AmazingKing
@AmazingKing 3 жыл бұрын
Yea
@JNSStudios
@JNSStudios 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, the AI is designed for live action, so it would technically work on this. Idk how good it would look but it *technically* would work.
@_mossy_8520
@_mossy_8520 3 жыл бұрын
Do it.
@Rocotolaji
@Rocotolaji 3 жыл бұрын
i prefer not to try it
@EliBoi298
@EliBoi298 Ай бұрын
9:35 Ah yes, my skin color is gamer.
@Oxygen1004
@Oxygen1004 9 күн бұрын
Woah woah woah you just said gama with a hard r how could you
@AbsoluteRatBastard
@AbsoluteRatBastard 20 сағат бұрын
Gamer is _our_ word, we’ll allow you to use “gama” instead of
@elcubanoycolombiano
@elcubanoycolombiano 11 ай бұрын
As an animator, I agreed with everything you said in the last video about interpolation. But in this video, I still agree
@Osvster
@Osvster 5 ай бұрын
As a GAM-
@soulphoenix2444
@soulphoenix2444 Ай бұрын
Bro had us in the first half
@riturajhalder6665
@riturajhalder6665 3 жыл бұрын
Wait so James Baxter isn’t a Horse who walks in two legs and do tricks with a ball to make everyone happy?
@mitchellmonroekleiner2296
@mitchellmonroekleiner2296 3 жыл бұрын
He is, he just animates on the side.
@cornyglory3896
@cornyglory3896 3 жыл бұрын
hey dude i'm as surprised as you are
@ashpotato7922
@ashpotato7922 3 жыл бұрын
Even Better. A badass animator who makes smooth animations and badass movements.
@professionaldunce6312
@professionaldunce6312 3 жыл бұрын
No, that's after the mushroom bomb.
@temperstar8411
@temperstar8411 3 жыл бұрын
@@professionaldunce6312 Which one
@crazyzap6376
@crazyzap6376 3 жыл бұрын
Mfs really out here calling noodle a racist for “generalizing gamers”
@huehhueh7954
@huehhueh7954 3 жыл бұрын
* In a bad joker impression * Gamers are an oppressed minority.
@HawkBreland
@HawkBreland 3 жыл бұрын
didn't even realize playing video games changed my race lmao
@HectaSpyrit
@HectaSpyrit 3 жыл бұрын
I think that comparing a horrible, centuries old systemic issue that fosters hate and division amongst people to "generalising gamers" is a cool move.
@kindacringe7189
@kindacringe7189 3 жыл бұрын
Well gamers ARE the master "race"
@tomohawkcloud
@tomohawkcloud 3 жыл бұрын
Only pc elitists care about fps and smoothness
@LoveisStoredInTheLain
@LoveisStoredInTheLain 11 ай бұрын
I read LPs as LPS and got really confused. Ah yes, Littlest Pet Shop, the most controversial and widely debated example of low frame animation.
@greenstarlover1
@greenstarlover1 3 сағат бұрын
Lol
@half-qilin
@half-qilin 11 ай бұрын
With 3D game animation, it’s actually a set of keyframes that are interpolated between. It doesn’t truly interpolate frames, it interpolates the position and renders the new frames.
@froogy666
@froogy666 3 жыл бұрын
As a gamer, I can confirm that I know the exact date the universe ends
@ungratefulape9121
@ungratefulape9121 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@johnrad9512
@johnrad9512 3 жыл бұрын
If I recall correctly time began on Tuesday. Not many people know that.
@pantpocket1741
@pantpocket1741 3 жыл бұрын
truuuuuue
@crunchypudding.9221
@crunchypudding.9221 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, as a gamer with 56k confirmed game time, I can safely say the world ends tomorrow at e3
@jonathan89920
@jonathan89920 3 жыл бұрын
2022?
@lovecervere3699
@lovecervere3699 3 жыл бұрын
People seem to miss that your point was "stop taking other people's work, putting it through an AI blender, and claiming its automatically better cos the numbers are higher"
@midas7935
@midas7935 3 жыл бұрын
Bigger number Better person
@iacobibrasiliensium2139
@iacobibrasiliensium2139 3 жыл бұрын
Why are people's taste such a concern? He sounds like a classical guitarist complaining that some people find the electric guitar to be a better instrument, or a rap artist complaining that people enjoy mumble rap. It's a rant about taste, a futile exercise
@Arsonist100
@Arsonist100 3 жыл бұрын
​@@iacobibrasiliensium2139 Way to totally miss the point of the 2 videos like a champ
@Deadbeatcow
@Deadbeatcow 3 жыл бұрын
@@bN_isheeere you know views aren't an award given right? it's a counter of how many people wanted to watch that. complaining about views is complaining that people like something.
@pownotthere
@pownotthere 3 жыл бұрын
@@Deadbeatcow ad revenue tho
@hugodarke
@hugodarke 2 ай бұрын
Almost entirely unrelated comment but one thing I love about vinyl records is not that the sound quality is better (because it isn’t). But there is something so wonderful about physically owning the album, being able to watch the needle drop and hear the gentle hiss over the dense plate. It’s so wonderful knowing that you’ve financially endorsed an artist you like and knowing you can actually pick up the album. Like how fricking cool is that?! You can pick up your album!!! While it doesn’t directly apply to animation, knowing the actual passion that went into a project (or at least hard work), adds to your enjoyment. Of course this is entirely subjective. Ps. Honestly I feel like I went entirely off topic here
@Cowboycomando54
@Cowboycomando54 Ай бұрын
It is better though, honestly any analog format of music is objectively better than digital because analog is a 1 for 1 recreation of the soundwaves of the original where as digital is only an approximation.
@tiosunga6946
@tiosunga6946 11 ай бұрын
i tried animating once or twice, and well ill wait for the 5 fps animation to become a thing so i can animate without losing my mind
@AymenDZA
@AymenDZA 2 жыл бұрын
"Just draw more frames" sounds an awful lot like "just buy a house"
@chrisheartman9263
@chrisheartman9263 2 жыл бұрын
Or, like, "just save up more money".
@diggitydog998
@diggitydog998 2 жыл бұрын
just get more money dude it’s not that damn hard
@whiteroomentertainmenttv8371
@whiteroomentertainmenttv8371 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@fryreviews693
@fryreviews693 2 жыл бұрын
“Just get good”
@exatent5194
@exatent5194 2 жыл бұрын
honestly... to any gamer who uses this as a valid point... "It took you 5000 hours to get that rank? Wow, now do it again, but it will take you 12500 hours instead because it will look cooler"
@JoaoPedro-iw3qd
@JoaoPedro-iw3qd 3 жыл бұрын
"Gamers have seen the future" you can't make this shit up, some people out there are crazy
@Nico_com_c
@Nico_com_c 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, gamers have seen the future, and, spoiler alert: *IS A HORRIBLE FUTURE*
@stupiderandunnecessarier
@stupiderandunnecessarier 3 жыл бұрын
As a gamer, I know that you will drink water somewhere this week, trust me I may have miscalculated some people's self degrading willpower but I'm still right, I just used a different walkthrough for a different ending route of reality, my IQ is still at gamer levels of smart
@dhiaa9082
@dhiaa9082 3 жыл бұрын
Let's avoid it by doing mass genocide :D
@KicksPregnantWomen
@KicksPregnantWomen 3 жыл бұрын
@@stupiderandunnecessarier oh yeah? bet.
@SuperInsanewolf
@SuperInsanewolf 3 жыл бұрын
@@stupiderandunnecessarier Clearly you don't know just how POORLY i take care of my body!
@the_furf_of_july4652
@the_furf_of_july4652 7 ай бұрын
I would love to see someone manage to find a stylistic use for the "vaseline" AI-irradiated art style. Perhaps on a glitchy or cosmically unnatural character, on a constant level just not looking right? I suppose it'd be similar to the stylistic choices in rotoscoped animation, where you can leave flaws in on purpose for stylistic or comedic effect. Except, have the entire rest of the setting animated a normal way and just have a single character, animated in greenscreen and interpolated, then inserted into the otherwise normal environment. I think it sounds like a neat idea and fun to pull off, I'd love to invest time into any concept that manages something like that.
@InternetGribbler-mq6fk
@InternetGribbler-mq6fk 3 ай бұрын
the two arguments basically boil down to: 1: Thats just your opinion 2: 60 fps is better (in my opinion) Which is kinda ironic that the two arguments contradict eachother
@lizziedoesthings1450
@lizziedoesthings1450 3 жыл бұрын
"sadly, not everyone alive today is James Baxter" is just the perfect sentence and I love it so much and I don't know why
@jucedoesthings4534
@jucedoesthings4534 3 жыл бұрын
Now we know Noodle's gay lover
@boopsiedoodless
@boopsiedoodless 3 жыл бұрын
because it's true. James Baxter my beloved 💘💖💕💓💞
@mmgmagic
@mmgmagic 3 жыл бұрын
*"Gamers have seen the future."* That future must've been a dystopian one, because it looks like shit.
@CZOM027
@CZOM027 3 жыл бұрын
But its High fps, 8k HDR shit
@mafiagmse5073
@mafiagmse5073 3 жыл бұрын
@@CZOM027 hi gamer
@dankmachine
@dankmachine 3 жыл бұрын
Ready Player One
@ParaFox404
@ParaFox404 3 жыл бұрын
I CAN OPEN LOOTBOXES AT 7000000 FRAMES A SECOND GET WITH THE TIMES NERDS
@ewwpoorpeople5684
@ewwpoorpeople5684 3 жыл бұрын
"Gamers have seen the future" in the same way that bacteria see color.
@bearwynn
@bearwynn 8 күн бұрын
My partner is a 3D gameplay animator who used to work at Ubisoft. They animate at 30 FPS and the game engine interpolates it. However 3D interpralation is very different to 2D as the engine is moving the bones of the character to each frame rather than creating a whole new image.
@C.D.B.E.E.
@C.D.B.E.E. 7 ай бұрын
I love how these people argue that smooth = good and then like every animated movie is now animating on 2s sometimes even 3s, those people havent been proven wrong, they're points have been utterly OBLITERATED
@e1lmoose
@e1lmoose 3 жыл бұрын
“animating on twos is an insult to the audience” Spiderman: Into The Spiderverse: *Am I a joke to you?*
@degeneratewithasideoftidep6795
@degeneratewithasideoftidep6795 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don’t know what that guy was smoking
@degeneratewithasideoftidep6795
@degeneratewithasideoftidep6795 3 жыл бұрын
Probably catnip
@unknownplayerak-47
@unknownplayerak-47 3 жыл бұрын
Pft
@rexosaurus3610
@rexosaurus3610 3 жыл бұрын
@@degeneratewithasideoftidep6795 nah that's waaaaayyyy to soft
@wumpus976
@wumpus976 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s spite him by animating on THREES!
@2BOF
@2BOF 3 жыл бұрын
Why are we talking about animating in 60 fps WHEN WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT 140fps!!! GAMERS HAVE SEEN THE FUTURE!!! 160FPS!!! PC ANIMATIONS MASTER RACE!!!
@MrCookie0510
@MrCookie0510 3 жыл бұрын
(For real is that even a thing?)
@anoszymekk7760
@anoszymekk7760 3 жыл бұрын
360 hz exists so we need 360 fps
@bootlegcrusader1773
@bootlegcrusader1773 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck that 1000 FPS if your in triple digits by 2022 then your not a REAL Gaymer *snorts gfuel*
@mostlyforyt
@mostlyforyt 3 жыл бұрын
Fake gamer! It's 144hz and 165hz
@bigmangabe
@bigmangabe 3 жыл бұрын
The king has spoken
@IronBabyFists
@IronBabyFists 10 ай бұрын
Holy shit you did the thing that I love! At 3:31 when you yell, I can tell you actually yelled and moved away from the mic! Good fucking christ I hate when people miss how easy it is to tell when someone's fake yelling. Animation stuff's all cool, too.
@JustCallMeElGamer
@JustCallMeElGamer Ай бұрын
3:08 saying there is a market for ai is the craziest foreshadowing i have seen by far
@TalkingVidya
@TalkingVidya 3 жыл бұрын
AS A GAMER
@mOwOterboat
@mOwOterboat 3 жыл бұрын
Continue
@theemulator4827
@theemulator4827 3 жыл бұрын
Sup
@Philscooper
@Philscooper 3 жыл бұрын
I think he dislikes the gamers...
@iambread2914
@iambread2914 3 жыл бұрын
Invalidated, NEXT OPINION PLEASE
@Infinite_GG14
@Infinite_GG14 3 жыл бұрын
What's up Checkmark
@w0lf667
@w0lf667 2 жыл бұрын
"Just draw more frames" Homeless? Just buy a house You're depressed? Just cheer up
@alienfrograbbitchannelmove4229
@alienfrograbbitchannelmove4229 2 жыл бұрын
Gay? Just be straight.
@luginess0
@luginess0 2 жыл бұрын
Tired? Just wake up
@globsterjail8195
@globsterjail8195 2 жыл бұрын
Hotel? Trivago.
@jonathanreyes5071
@jonathanreyes5071 2 жыл бұрын
@@globsterjail8195 The funniest one yet🤣🤣🤣🤣
@connorjohnson2161
@connorjohnson2161 2 жыл бұрын
Dead? Come back to life.
@bigsyrup8567
@bigsyrup8567 18 күн бұрын
I love how you physically printed and glued each comment onto a little cutout instead of just overlaying them on screen. That’s commitment to the craft.
@froodlenoodle
@froodlenoodle 7 ай бұрын
4:32 amazing vodeo exvept from this take, just hearing that sound brought a smile to my face, i will listen to terribly compressed music all day
@megumareta6361
@megumareta6361 2 жыл бұрын
"Just draw more frames" Watch these guys complain as their favorite anime takes 4 years to finish rather than 1 year cause they told the studio to draw more frames only for the animators to quit and shut down the project
@Xenofinite
@Xenofinite 2 жыл бұрын
Ye
@Umar092
@Umar092 2 жыл бұрын
And that is why, ladies and gentlemens...CGI is CRUCIAL in today's Anime Industry.
@Umar092
@Umar092 2 жыл бұрын
@@mahdeeznuts 😂😂😂 AoT 4/2 is coming Jan 9, 2022. I'm looking forward to any improvements on their CGI
@lmao1660
@lmao1660 2 жыл бұрын
@@Umar092 rip Jojo openings from part 1-3, you will be greatly missed
@Umar092
@Umar092 2 жыл бұрын
@@lmao1660 What's with Jojo opening? I didn't watch it...
@Barb0nius
@Barb0nius 2 жыл бұрын
"Just too lazy to animate more frames" is so infuriating that it sent me into a primal rage
@jasonquiver6907
@jasonquiver6907 2 жыл бұрын
It's been two weeks now. How many cities or worlds have you destroyed so far?
@Barb0nius
@Barb0nius 2 жыл бұрын
I just flew in from the Aztec Empire circa 1521 and boy are my arms tired
@michaelowen7975
@michaelowen7975 2 жыл бұрын
My friend calls animators, like Odd1sOut lazy because the characters are ‘too simple’ for 1month per upload. I’d like to see him make a 24fps 10min video, which is about 14,400 pictures.
@gun2424
@gun2424 2 жыл бұрын
Winston
@jalk12
@jalk12 2 жыл бұрын
return to monke
@TheMiningCrafter
@TheMiningCrafter 11 ай бұрын
8:40 I have done some small amounts of 3D animation in the past, and basically how it works is: you set 2 poses with different timings and the computer smoothly moves that part of the model to the other part unless you tell it not to. This does sometimes create weird artifacts, however they’re usually pretty noticeable by the animators and don’t just blur out entire shots to the point of unreadability.
@davidbanan.
@davidbanan. 11 ай бұрын
"You Will Get the 5mil" is unironically one of my favorite youtube comments and i can't say why
@RoseGuyCrazy
@RoseGuyCrazy 2 жыл бұрын
"Try animating motion blur" was the funniest shit to me.
@hhh1234h
@hhh1234h 2 жыл бұрын
My face and brain legit froze. Did they think that animators couldn’t.. after more than a century of animating??? People are really something
@SpiteAnims
@SpiteAnims 2 жыл бұрын
Motion blur is surprisingly the funniest part of animating
@fotnite_
@fotnite_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@hhh1234h These are the same people that harassed Cyberpunk developers when the executives at CDPR messed up
@mr.mofumofu7951
@mr.mofumofu7951 2 жыл бұрын
motion blur frames are amazing
@drdanCZ
@drdanCZ 2 жыл бұрын
same for me cuz he clearly showed motion blur in the first video xD
@abbaszaffarkhan1872
@abbaszaffarkhan1872 3 жыл бұрын
“It’s called racism” Gamers truly are the most oppressed class in society
@broylesmal427
@broylesmal427 3 жыл бұрын
US GAMERS MUST RISE 😤
@areilescott5841
@areilescott5841 3 жыл бұрын
We must game hard
@SPEEDYCOW789
@SPEEDYCOW789 3 жыл бұрын
We live in a S o c i e t y
@OnTheAlmondTree
@OnTheAlmondTree 3 жыл бұрын
BOTTOM TEXT
@chiakiexe
@chiakiexe 3 жыл бұрын
made in memeatic
@Leo-the-frog
@Leo-the-frog 3 ай бұрын
The way this whole video is shot is so cool and interesting
@tinyt.w.i.m7291
@tinyt.w.i.m7291 3 жыл бұрын
“Gamers ha-“ *mind does an Ollie over a fire hydrant*
@heavykil
@heavykil 3 жыл бұрын
𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑺𝒑𝒆𝒄𝒊𝒂𝒍 𝑻𝒓𝒊𝒄𝒌 𝒔𝒐𝒖𝒏𝒅 𝒇𝒓𝒐𝒎 𝑻𝒐𝒏𝒚 𝑯𝒂𝒘𝒌
@der_saftmon
@der_saftmon 3 жыл бұрын
* Katana slice FX * "Silence, wench."
@Danidev
@Danidev 3 жыл бұрын
*As a gamer*
@Bewroad
@Bewroad 3 жыл бұрын
dani will you ever fucking upload
@jonathanshorp8346
@jonathanshorp8346 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bewroad he did like a week ago what
@drnugs3181
@drnugs3181 3 жыл бұрын
As a professional gamer that has played 3 competitions...
@floorbeardthepirate1141
@floorbeardthepirate1141 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bewroad Bruh he's working hard. If you complain at Dani your not a true boner.
@re_i1
@re_i1 3 жыл бұрын
Haha 69 likes
@Goose2225
@Goose2225 6 ай бұрын
well i as a small animator that feels like my final projects are fulfilling enough: i compleatly agree with you.
@sophistisnake
@sophistisnake 16 күн бұрын
8:43 Most 3D games use a model with a skeleton inside. The skeleton basically decides what and where the joints are. From there, you can usually either record a motion by manually moving the bones, or rig the model and skeleton to a premade animation. The manual way is sort of like recording a video of the animation, while rigging the model is more like the interpolation of 3D modeling. Of course, this isn’t how all games do it, but many games do work this way.
@Two_Teapod
@Two_Teapod 14 күн бұрын
so, it's basically tweening?
@CalebCity
@CalebCity 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, but Imagine if a mad lad ACTUALLY painfully animated something at 60fps. Like every single little frame LMAO, shit would look mad silky! Artist would probably just dissolve after though.
@perkum1144
@perkum1144 2 жыл бұрын
Animation can be whatever i want *snaps*
@fruit2685
@fruit2685 2 жыл бұрын
Oh god now that you said it that sounds like a huge pain. Let's say that it's a 25 minute video. So 60 frames per second is 3,600 frames a minute so a 25 minute episode is 90,000 frames. Let's say there are 12 episodes so that will be 1,080,000 frames! Imagine animating that many frames. Of course the time will vary depending on the intro or ending but still, that's a lot of frames. By the way I love your vids Calebcity
@ProdBy.JayLo3
@ProdBy.JayLo3 2 жыл бұрын
@@fruit2685 tf? Ima commission 4 arms from Ben 10 for this one
@fruit2685
@fruit2685 2 жыл бұрын
@@ProdBy.JayLo3 oh no not four arms
@nephanims8273
@nephanims8273 2 жыл бұрын
true lmao they would use over 9000% of there power
@nidhogg8446
@nidhogg8446 2 жыл бұрын
“A human being did not write this” You’re right It was a Gamer
@MrcreeperDXD777
@MrcreeperDXD777 2 жыл бұрын
did you just say the forbidden "G-Word"?
@Mr-Moron
@Mr-Moron 2 жыл бұрын
Gamer here and can confirm, I’m actually 15.648 x Pi rats disgusting as a skeleton disguising as a human.
@GingeryGinger
@GingeryGinger 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr-Moron well actually you’re a jellyfish-like being operating within a chassis of bones which has been surrounded and filled with biological matter.
@Mr-Moron
@Mr-Moron 2 жыл бұрын
*Bold of you to assume I have a nervous system*
@bobergamer1963
@bobergamer1963 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr-Moron legit comedy gold
@345635356
@345635356 2 ай бұрын
About videogame animations, I can give some input as an amateur dev, although I have no clue about AAA standard so ask someone else. The tools I use are Blender and Unity (yeah I know, cringe) mostly, and both programs render an animation at 60 fps usually unless your computer is a potato or the project is very poorly optimized. I animate using key frames (the best way I can explain it is that the tools can save the location of certain parts of an object within 3D space at a certain point in time), interpolating the frames, and then tweaking the result by adding more key frames for individual actions (for example lifting a foot a bit higher during a kick for more energy in the motion) and/or directly manipulating the animation curves. TLDR, 3D animators usually aren't animating frame-by-frame, we're animating pose-by-pose. I assume that if the animation is going to be viewed at another frame rate (say an animated movie or a stylized videogame), you can set the program to render the animation at that frame rate and then adjust the animation accordingly, or make the animation from scratch using that render setting. Videogames that use sprites (2D drawings) have to animate sprite-by-sprite, which is kinda like frame-by-frame only animations are are going to be triggered by script or player input, not the frames-per-second format a pen-and-paper animator would need to worry about. 2D isn't my thing, so maybe I'm not giving the whole picture here. As for mo-cap, I have no idea. Apparently KZbinr Russian Badger (who uses mo-cap w/ Source) can tweak what he captures with traditional 3D animation and in-engine physics interactions. Basically: 48 frames per second doesn't double our workload like it would a 2D animator, instead anything below or above 60 FPS becomes something to account for when animating, and more complex motions will require more key frames and animation curve edits (basically more data) to make look good.
@lovethe9mil.878
@lovethe9mil.878 6 күн бұрын
Some guy: It is superb. Noodle: *visible frustration*
@radiotelevision2371
@radiotelevision2371 3 жыл бұрын
Noodle: Gamers- Gamers: *PROTIP: ITS CALLED RACISM*
@rocketgames7538
@rocketgames7538 3 жыл бұрын
They're 100% a twitter user
@klutch4962
@klutch4962 3 жыл бұрын
i mean noodle is right, but still stereotyping. its not... racism though :I
@beld3375
@beld3375 3 жыл бұрын
Darien did you know that I’m not actually Asian? But actually a rare race known as GAMER
@fakename287
@fakename287 3 жыл бұрын
Same energy as " 'karen' is the n-word for white people"
@fakename287
@fakename287 3 жыл бұрын
@@rocketgames7538 nah, Twitter doesn't care about gamers, that guy is 100% a redditor
@john_michael97
@john_michael97 3 жыл бұрын
Also, it doesn’t matter if it “looks better” to some people, taking someone’s art and saying that you “fixed” it is extremely disrespectful and honestly just plain rude 🤷‍♂️
@bartender_billy6229
@bartender_billy6229 3 жыл бұрын
100% this!!!!
@der_saftmon
@der_saftmon 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Rude isnt the jedi way
@strayiggytv
@strayiggytv 3 жыл бұрын
This was a point I made in the other video which ironically none of the people arguing for everything being 60fps ever countered.
@ramby3405
@ramby3405 3 жыл бұрын
yeah, its like you baked a cake for someone that took you time and effort to make and that person just completely changes everything about it says to you "I fixed it." What the fuck. *slap*
@shadowbrine114
@shadowbrine114 3 жыл бұрын
True dat
@Definitely_a_Fox
@Definitely_a_Fox 10 ай бұрын
I remember my animation lecturer showing my class AI upscales of old Claymation stuff in old live-action movies. Everyone in my class felt like we were going to throw up... Except for the AI bro in the corner. He thought it looked good. We all laughed at him.
@soulphoenix2444
@soulphoenix2444 Ай бұрын
"tHaT's DiScRiMiNaTiOn"
@Havocian_o7
@Havocian_o7 5 ай бұрын
No matter where you go on the internet, stupidity shall always be found a stone-throw away.
@Havocian_o7
@Havocian_o7 5 ай бұрын
And these comments.. Are pure evidence of that.
@scrunf
@scrunf 3 жыл бұрын
I wanna see a piece of animation where only a single character is animated at 60 FPS. Like, everybody else is animated at 24, but GREASE MAN slides around at 60
@Nai_101
@Nai_101 3 жыл бұрын
Watch spider verse
@victorcastro9853
@victorcastro9853 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nai_101 oh yeah miles was like animated at 24 frames
@GreenDre
@GreenDre 3 жыл бұрын
Pain is what you want and I'm willing to give it to you
@Nai_101
@Nai_101 3 жыл бұрын
@@victorcastro9853 he was 24 fps when he was still learning to be spider-man. The instant he became who he was, he became 60 fps
@Crab_Jesus
@Crab_Jesus 3 жыл бұрын
Sanic
@eo_
@eo_ 2 жыл бұрын
That one guy who said "this is progress" is most definitely into nft's now
@copperfish1529
@copperfish1529 2 жыл бұрын
No you don’t get it my monkey might move at 240 fps one day
@chuckthewizard7288
@chuckthewizard7288 2 жыл бұрын
My god I had the exact same thought
@brynntall6811
@brynntall6811 2 жыл бұрын
@Throwaway_73 bro it was an accurate insult to a guy who was being hilariously stupid
@madtias_
@madtias_ 2 жыл бұрын
@Throwaway_73 are you the guy who said "this is progress" on an alt
@CoralCopperHead
@CoralCopperHead 2 жыл бұрын
@Throwaway_73 Aw, you're adorable.
@thatsnogood6413
@thatsnogood6413 10 ай бұрын
As someone who has played dragonball fighterz, or games with animation like it, I can thoroughly say that animation like that works really well, if done right of course.
@AgonusLastname
@AgonusLastname 7 ай бұрын
I love how even if it becomes the new standard it will probably take a very long time to change every animation class, the things every animator currently knows about frames and I mean the list goes on. What about animation projects that are currently going on right now? Will they just have to start over? Like I love how not only do they not realise that it doesn’t look good but it would also cause a crap-ton of problems and would take a long time to fully change. Oh, I wonder if he’ll do one reacting to this videos comment too.
@nymphocat254
@nymphocat254 3 жыл бұрын
"I don't believe a human being wrote this" Nah, chances are it was written by an AI. That's why they be simpin for the roboot.
@kadabraguy9846
@kadabraguy9846 3 жыл бұрын
Can't tell if "roboot" is a typo or a pun lmao
@OneEyedMaxi
@OneEyedMaxi 3 жыл бұрын
robooty
@nymphocat254
@nymphocat254 3 жыл бұрын
@@kadabraguy9846 robootlicking
@BarBaker108
@BarBaker108 2 жыл бұрын
"pro-tip it's racism" I was there laughing for like 20 minutes
@philjancik4601
@philjancik4601 2 жыл бұрын
i dont fink you understand how offensive this comment is. do u actually fink dat the racism is funny. fa. gamers are the most oppressed people in society. how can you not see that a group of people a community if you will that prides themsleves on sitting on their ass for hours in a day doing nothing but smelling their un-washed tessties for sustanance is not an oppressed group of people. if you really fink dat then you can see that this comment is clearly a joke mocking the idiots that call themselves gamers
@jyau06
@jyau06 2 жыл бұрын
@@philjancik4601 🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂😂
@jyau06
@jyau06 2 жыл бұрын
@@philjancik4601 how is being a gamer a race? Gamers are oppressed?????😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Krakyy
@Krakyy 2 жыл бұрын
@@philjancik4601 UGH STUPID RAY SISTS AND THEIR RAY SIST ACTS!!!! squid game people 😍😍
@Akabalthy
@Akabalthy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Krakyy SQUID GAMES!!
@NotaCat-bz4pb
@NotaCat-bz4pb 2 ай бұрын
AI is for giving me a 25/50 on my Spanish homework not for animating highly complex and well thought out animation I am not an animator. I do play guitar. If someone took a song i was playing and strummed Em the entire time and called it "enhanced" or "remastered" I would shit myself and jump down a flight of stairs.
@Jdudhhsuxbsksj
@Jdudhhsuxbsksj 2 ай бұрын
I think this goes with the whole aspect ratio, animation style, how it’s filmed, video quality, etc. etc. It’s whatever the artist/s intention was!
@adirblazkowics7717
@adirblazkowics7717 3 жыл бұрын
"Hey check out this neat artwork I made." "Sweet. I'm gonna edit it and claim my edit is superior to your original intended designs and claim that editing an artist's piece is superior to simply appreciating the art as it was." "Why are you doing this? This is outright insulting and even demoralizing." "HOW DARE YOU SAY MY SUPERIOR METHODS TO YOUR ARTISTIC TALENTS ARE INSULTING"
@Artista_Frustrado
@Artista_Frustrado 3 жыл бұрын
you literally described Tumblr/Twitter "Fixing" character designs
@immentallyhandicapped2903
@immentallyhandicapped2903 3 жыл бұрын
I genuinely don't understand why people hate 60fps *specifically.* How is adding frame rates to someone's animation insulting? Like I legit do not get it
@bronzeoliniisnotfunny7885
@bronzeoliniisnotfunny7885 3 жыл бұрын
@@immentallyhandicapped2903 If i recall correctly, there is a solid degree of artistic intent when it comes to someone’s animation/artwork. Like say for instance, you’re baking a cake & you want this cake to be decorated so it looks like a bed as a sort of comfy theme. Now, imagine some schmuck coming in, seeing your bed cake, saying something like, “bruh, this is shit, I can make it better.” Then this schmuck proceeds to alter the cake decorations that you put all of your time & effort into making, & winds up making it look worse than not only how you intended it to look. I could be wrong with this analogy, but that’s just what came to mind lol.
@beatrice7924
@beatrice7924 3 жыл бұрын
@@bronzeoliniisnotfunny7885 You're still trying to make the argument that the person doing it is a jerk who wants to be better than the artist. I love seeing 60fps interpolation, yeah it's not extremely lifelike but I think it's really cool what AI can do and it's really useful for stopmotion animators.
@flippisni
@flippisni 3 жыл бұрын
@@beatrice7924 They aren't a jerk per say. More like someone who doesn't understand the medium at play and ignores any level of nuance or artistic choice, and is only making the argument that "big number better than little one". Also the fact that someone can make money converting clips they didn't make just by shitting it through a program is just wrong on so many levels. When some talentless shit-for-brains can profit off of someone else's hard work and artistic vison with literally no effort, I don't really want to support any tool that's being used like that.
@BillehBawb
@BillehBawb 3 жыл бұрын
good video, but as a gamer I
@taz3rgamer247
@taz3rgamer247 3 жыл бұрын
Did you know most people can only see up to 60 FPS anyway?
@alfathfajar6856
@alfathfajar6856 3 жыл бұрын
sus😳 I don't know what to comment
@Is_kitten
@Is_kitten 3 жыл бұрын
Shut up your opinion is invalid, welcome to the internet 😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
@SubtleOddity
@SubtleOddity 3 жыл бұрын
@@Is_kitten are you okay?
@Is_kitten
@Is_kitten 3 жыл бұрын
@@SubtleOddity maybe
@BlueXonar
@BlueXonar Ай бұрын
I watched this whole video with my ambient "fireplace sounds" video still playing from last night without realising, and it really added to the peril.
@KolMan2000
@KolMan2000 8 ай бұрын
I love how some people don’t seem to comprehend how ABSOLUTELY HELLISH IT WOULD BE TO ANIMATE AT 60FPS ALL THE TIME. These people don’t realize that animating 2.5x more frames than 24FPS would would take so much unnecessary effort. Literally one of the main reasons why animation isn’t done at high FPS is TO NOT KILL ANIMATORS
@dhinkakmed
@dhinkakmed 2 жыл бұрын
As a gamer, I'm offended at how many "gamers" are offended at a video that isn't about gaming.
@terramerc733
@terramerc733 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah gamers nowadays are weird man, imagine saying other game is shit bc yours have 40whk hd graphics bullshit on the fruits and some others have low poly grapes Games are good if it's good, you dont have to shit on other people's games
@smji5269
@smji5269 2 жыл бұрын
Gamers in the last video: *Hears the word FPS* It's something related to us and video games we must intervene immediately
@mr_eden7572
@mr_eden7572 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a console player my average frame rate if I’m lucky is at least 24
@tegoose
@tegoose 2 жыл бұрын
Bo jiden
@startown4814
@startown4814 2 жыл бұрын
i didn’t think there actually existed people who describes themselves as gamers. like how do you go on living after that point?
@austinwallick8744
@austinwallick8744 3 жыл бұрын
“Calling this a straw man would be like describing Kennedy’s death as a fucking headache” fuck me that was hilarious
@sink5321
@sink5321 3 жыл бұрын
Gladly
@ne8892
@ne8892 3 жыл бұрын
@@sink5321 woah
@wustenflamme4660
@wustenflamme4660 3 жыл бұрын
I recommend listening closer to the ad in the video
@ClodsireBcuzYes
@ClodsireBcuzYes 24 күн бұрын
the same people who say "wow cool, they release a new episode every sunday" and "THE NEW SEASON OF (insert well animated anime here) MIGHT NOT COME OUT FOR ANOTHER YEAR?!?!" are the same people who say "not using 48-60 frames is lazy" MOST PEOPLE CANT EVEN PROPERLY *SEE* 60 FRAMES!!! WHAT RU TALKING ABOUT?!?!? edit: your brain fills in frames for you, so even 12 fps works fine, but, using about 24 fps and switching to about 12 or less for fight scenes and things like that makes it easier to understand whats happening. im not good at animating lol, but ive learned things about it overtime just by watching and listening to other people. its REALLY not rocket science oh and, one more thing, certain things mess with me because i have sensory disorder (it aint rlly severe or anything but to much noise, flashing lights, quick visuals or all of the above can make it hard to breathe and i freak out, ive gotten a little more used to it but i dont think im ever gonna get over bad food textures lol) i love pizza tower and its animation, but i dont play it simply because its gameplay is too fast and the music tends to be pretty intense and loud. i LOVE undertale and deltarune, but the omega flowey fight really messed me up because it was very flashy and the music was loud. so sometimes i just dont like the visuals because they make me feel funny. but even past all that, 24 fps usually looks better, and is just less time consuming anyways. the choppy artstyle in puss n boots messed with me a little just because of how quickly the colors and scene and all that could change, but i still enjoyed it more than i would have at 60 fps. surely that says something?
@MCKL8
@MCKL8 5 ай бұрын
I think this is the 3rd or 4th time i've watched this video just because it's so good
@breadbreadington5735
@breadbreadington5735 3 жыл бұрын
James Baxter, arguably one of the most successful animators ever known, wrote a comment agreeing with a man. That man, in the very next month, did a sponsorship with a company that sells sex toys.
@phanthelia
@phanthelia 3 жыл бұрын
I fail to see the issue here
@IKIRosa
@IKIRosa 3 жыл бұрын
If you see an issue here, you need to interpolate some bitches
@quangduongang6230
@quangduongang6230 3 жыл бұрын
@@phanthelia in fact, i'm seeing a connection
@basilbat273
@basilbat273 3 жыл бұрын
I felt that
@midnightartist43
@midnightartist43 3 жыл бұрын
God it sounds terrible when you say it like that lmao
@danielvasquez1843
@danielvasquez1843 3 жыл бұрын
As a gam- no but I find it so funny how mad people are getting over the bit.
@The_Knowledgeseekers
@The_Knowledgeseekers 3 жыл бұрын
As a gamer this comment hurt me.
@JoseMendoza-sv1fi
@JoseMendoza-sv1fi 3 жыл бұрын
As a gamer I game
@LovenRazu
@LovenRazu 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoseMendoza-sv1fi good joke. i got a laugh.
@JdhdhdgdCndhdvcb
@JdhdhdgdCndhdvcb 5 ай бұрын
“GAMERS HAVE SEEN THE FUTURE” WHAT A FUCKIN LINE
@johnwoods9380
@johnwoods9380 8 ай бұрын
I like this form of animation, please feel free to use it whenever you feel it's appropriate
@thievinglittlegoblin404
@thievinglittlegoblin404 3 жыл бұрын
What pisses me off the most about every comment saying "you're just too lazy" is that I am absolutely positive not a single one has made an animation before
@Rucktheperson
@Rucktheperson 3 жыл бұрын
That triggers me
@shoelicker
@shoelicker 3 жыл бұрын
I didnt make animation (only if you count the one I did with my Nintendo ds) but I think that telling animators are lazy is just bs I bet they cant sit hours on there desk drawing the same character over and over just for 15 seconds of the thing appearing on screen
@chloedegurechaff1941
@chloedegurechaff1941 3 жыл бұрын
I've made a few flip books in my life. and that shits hard as fuck to make sure nothing just jumps, and keeping it all smooth with eachother. Can't imagine needing to make a flip book that lasts 20 minutes let alone hours.
@shoelicker
@shoelicker 3 жыл бұрын
@@chloedegurechaff1941 that sounds nice, would want to watch it
@HectaSpyrit
@HectaSpyrit 3 жыл бұрын
Making this argument is the surest way for someone to announce themselves as an arrogant prick who dosen't understand anything about what they are saying yet speaks as if speaking from knowledge and experience, who doesn't understand the colossal amount of work involved and is unappreciative as a result, expecting nothing but the most pristine and premium content to be fed uninteruptedly into their mouth, content to fill the container that they are. It is intoxicatingly arrogant, self-centered, selfish, unappreciative, and willfully ignorant. EDIT: Entitled, that's the word I'm looking for. Like baby birds, nakes and blind and flightless, opening their mouths wide open to the sky, waiting for food to drop inside and asking for more.
@kylelarson9722
@kylelarson9722 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm not a gameplay animator, but I am a gameplay animation engineer, so maybe I can provide some insight. In short, yes we animate at either 24 or 30fps and have the game engine interpolate these frames for us, but we also don't exactly have the option to not interpolate. For reference, we use 3D models / animations in our game, and I would expect there are differences for 2D animations. Most games target 60fps as an ideal framerate, but due to a lot of uncontrollable circumstances and how many games are created nowadays, games don't always stay at 60fps consistently. Unlike movies / animations that can ensure that there's a constant framerate, it's not uncommon for games to have framerate drops while loading assets, rendering too many objects, etc. So we have to deal with variable framerates where sometimes you have a frame that took more than 1/30th of a second to generate, or 1/48th of a second, etc. If we played the animations back at a consistent rate, these frames would look strange, often "hitchy" if the timing of the poses doesn't match what the player expects. So instead, we interpolate the animation to generate frames on the fly for what a frame of animation would look like after 1/48th of a second has passed, for example. Further, it's fairly common to not only have to interpolate an animation between authored frames, but we also sometimes have to interpolate between other animations as well. When your character goes from running to jumping, we have to interpolate between the running animation and the jumping animation for our character. Or interpolate from walking to running, crouching to dodging, etc. We generate what we call "animation graphs", which are basically rulesets for how a game engine is to interpolate between different animations depending on what the player is doing or attempting to do. The big difference between our interpolation and the tool being discussed here is that our data that the computer understands is WAY more streamlined for computer algorithms to be applied against. With the "Video Interpolator", a computer has to interpret not only the artist's intent, but also "Is that an arm? An eye? How is the character moving between frame 1 and 2?". In 3D animation, the computer has some sort of understanding of what all these things are, and all the data is organized already in a way that the computer understands (skeletons, models + skinning, etc.). The "Skeleton Interpolator" has a much easier time understanding the motion between frame 1 and 2, and is likely to produce more predictable results. Even then, we have animators author the rules behind skeleton interpolation, and in some situations they will hand-author transitions if they feel that the computer isn't doing a good enough of a job. For the Video Interpolator, I'd agree with quite a few points you present. I think this is a tool that's looking for a purpose, and it's incorrect to either say "This tool has no place in animation throw it away", and "This tool should be used for every animation and it's always better". I could foresee a future where maybe a specific sequence could be authored faster using a video interpolator, or the interpolation could be done for a specific background character whose movement isn't that important to the scene and the author just wants to tell the computer "Make these in-betweens so I can focus on animating the main characters in this shot". The tool would need some knobs to adjust (i.e. source framerate and target framerate), but I'd be interested to see if this tech has a future. However, the simple argument of "Higher framerate = better" is not true; different framerates can convey different atmospheres or emotions, and is not simply a metric of animation quality. If it were, stop-motion animation would be considered "just bad lmao", instead of having some form of charm around the imperfection of creating motion from motionless objects.
@VinnyFonseca
@VinnyFonseca 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, voice of reason.
@jonaslillard4310
@jonaslillard4310 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, your insight is priceless! And can i say thank you for working with animation engines XDD coding is a torture I wouldn’t wish on anyone
@sanamite
@sanamite 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@kirbypopstarian1198
@kirbypopstarian1198 3 жыл бұрын
Thats really interesting :o
@hellspawnstudios
@hellspawnstudios 3 жыл бұрын
You. You make sense. I like you.
@obijuandy-liacco328
@obijuandy-liacco328 17 күн бұрын
Leon Massey making a surprise appearance at the end killed me
@derpypotato677
@derpypotato677 3 ай бұрын
14:24 I thought bro was going to cook with how photo-realism is not superior to stylized games, but he sold so hard.
@CrabRango
@CrabRango 3 жыл бұрын
I hate when people are just like “duh just animate in higher framerate then” if it was that easy this argument likely wouldn’t exist
@somethingclever4297
@somethingclever4297 3 жыл бұрын
It's the same kind of thing as "you're depressed just be happy". how is it this difficult to understand that guess what people aren't magic and can't do anything if you try hard enough. So unless you just start flying through pure willpower you're point is stupid.
@zanly5039
@zanly5039 3 жыл бұрын
i animated my first-ever short film in 60fps that was really, really dumb for a lot of reasons but at the time i was like "UGUGUH I MAKE SMOOTH :)))))"
@cheese8554
@cheese8554 3 жыл бұрын
That’s like saying to usain bolt, “JuST ruN FAstEr!”
@somethingclever4297
@somethingclever4297 3 жыл бұрын
@@cheese8554 well I don't think Usain bolt really needs the help. The people who race against him on the other hand.
@moemuxhagi
@moemuxhagi 3 жыл бұрын
Your legs broke because of warfare ? Just get up and go on the firld again. Just do it. I say so.
@chandlermatthews8062
@chandlermatthews8062 3 жыл бұрын
“GAMERS HAVE SEEN THE FUTURE” I haven’t laughed so hard in my life.
@A_Terrible_Person
@A_Terrible_Person 3 жыл бұрын
As a gamer i have not seen the future as i can barely see two feet in front of my self
@Defractalization
@Defractalization 2 ай бұрын
I can see the future, and I am a gamer. No, seriously, I see the future! Please make my suffering end
@AleGaTorkk
@AleGaTorkk Ай бұрын
bro, if I could, I'd put a print of an animation that you got on 2:26... It looks like a fricking skeleton blurred and destroyed. What a beautiful thing to look, 60 fps looks amazing.
@themelancholyofgay3543
@themelancholyofgay3543 Ай бұрын
your puppet show is well done, it's so expressive despite being a doodle and is swapped out- how do you have 3 hands💀
@CassBOTRR
@CassBOTRR 2 жыл бұрын
30 years later, everyone complains how lazy 60 fps animations are and everyone should be doing it all in 285 fps
@mst9io853
@mst9io853 2 жыл бұрын
0,4 second long animation
@lunaJAMv9
@lunaJAMv9 2 жыл бұрын
nononononononono, 285 is *_archaic_* and *_obsolete,_* everyone knows we should be animating in 1000000000 FPS
@internalpain2046
@internalpain2046 2 жыл бұрын
Dumb comment
@blendyboi5023
@blendyboi5023 2 жыл бұрын
@@lunaJAMv9 *suffering in animator*
@Matt-uc8dd
@Matt-uc8dd 2 жыл бұрын
500 years later, everyone complains about how 285 FPS animations are too lazy and how animators should be doing 500,000 FPS animations.
@JellyJessYT
@JellyJessYT 3 жыл бұрын
*Your channel has given me a newfound love for brown cardboard...*
@tamuno-nengifinebone2108
@tamuno-nengifinebone2108 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jess! Love your channel
@dragzking
@dragzking 3 жыл бұрын
Is there other kinds of cardboard? I thought it was all brown
@AxxLAfriku
@AxxLAfriku 3 жыл бұрын
NO! NO! NO! Many people say I am sick in the head. NOOOO!!!! I don't believe them. But there are so many people commenting this stuff on my videos, that I have 1% doubt. So I have to ask you right now: Do you think I am sick in the head? Thanks for helping, my dear jess
@Disevolution
@Disevolution 3 жыл бұрын
god i love cardboard and boxes
@alot_of_ducks
@alot_of_ducks 3 жыл бұрын
True
@meatballmustard7658
@meatballmustard7658 5 ай бұрын
"do you think its worth doubling the workload for maybe three years?" mappa "doubling? three years?"
@goldenfeather3687
@goldenfeather3687 5 күн бұрын
Okay, I am very late to the party, but here’s my two cents. I feel like the reason why so many people think that the Vaseline motion looks better is because it can be more visually stimulating. Not visually better, but more stimulating. It’s hard to describe, but to the (very) untrained eye, a “smooth” consistent motion can appear more friendly. So at first glance, it may look more impressive to… someone. But I say this as someone who has never animated a damn thing in their life, so take this with a mountain of salt
@professionalsleeper6281
@professionalsleeper6281 3 жыл бұрын
"Calling this a strawman would be like describing Kennedy's death as a fucking headache" Goddamn I gotta use that one more often Edit: "As a gamer I-" * _immediate cut out_ * Is the peak of comedy and I don't know why.
@Hellschwarz
@Hellschwarz 3 жыл бұрын
If you pause on that one comment, he was actually agreeing.
@emmettbrown3463
@emmettbrown3463 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hellschwarz too bad he was a gamer
@99Bomb99
@99Bomb99 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hellschwarz yeah but it funny
@DrPonk
@DrPonk 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hellschwarz Yeah, that especially rubbed me the wrong way. Something about this guy's approach to a lot of these responses (and the topic as a whole) is particularly aggravating, even if he is right about a lot of the stuff. You don't have to fight asshole with bigger asshole, especially when you're coming out on top regardless.
@Hellschwarz
@Hellschwarz 3 жыл бұрын
Do you really think he picked that answer at random?
@UllrGamingGod
@UllrGamingGod 3 жыл бұрын
The guy who said stereotyping and racism pissed me off because he’s one of those people that just throws the word racist all over the place
@lol-fq9kc
@lol-fq9kc 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah gamers really cant catch a break we are so oppressed
@mrbigsta4221
@mrbigsta4221 3 жыл бұрын
HERE IS THE DEFINITION FOR THOSE IDIOTS THROWING RACIST EVERYWHERE! Racism: Prejudice, discrimination or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group. And yes, I googled that up on mobile, re-typed it all out because I couldn’t copy-paste on my type of phone. RACISM IS NOT JUST GETTING ANGRY AND STERIOTYPING! LOOK OUTSIDE AT ALL OF THE PEOPLE GETTING *KILLED* BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF THIER SKIN! Even the JUDGES, whom are voted by the people, are mostly racist. So stop throwing the word racist around, and get you head out of your bum.
@thumb5225
@thumb5225 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrbigsta4221 tap and hold/double tapping works on my ipad and phone if that helps.
@dazedheart9006
@dazedheart9006 3 жыл бұрын
That one just had me laughing. He has the maturity of a 10 year old
@nicestpancake
@nicestpancake 3 жыл бұрын
@@dazedheart9006 he's either 15 or 65 no in-between
@ninji3308
@ninji3308 8 ай бұрын
That ad though💀
@Griffin519x
@Griffin519x 29 күн бұрын
I can’t hear the name James Baxter without hearing the horse from Adventure Time 😂
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