REVISIT - Changing the NEC/TOKIN Capacitors on a PS3 FAT - Marcel's Lot Part 4

[@FixDaily]

Hi friend, there is no need for desoldering then, you can remove them in chunks with cutting pliers and then you remove the pads with the soldering iron, which is how i do, they break easily. Using the heat gun takes no effect since there are a lot of thermal dissipation, you would need to pre-heat the board for that. And it also makes a lot of smoke that is not good to breath. You could test for short applying 1V with the power supply and feed in current, if voltage were all the time 0V you knew for sure you had made a bridge. BTW CPUs and GPUs seam to be shorted (on beep mode) but they are not, they are have a very low resistance because they have a huge power consumption. Also something that i've noticed, when screwing the coolers, you can't screw one and then the other, you have to do both, making an X shape, otherwise you might end up breaking a DIE or crack solder balls. This is also recommended for laptops as well.

[@beavis6363]

Good to see the revisits. I channeled my inner Vince last weekend and gave my old Bell & Howell analog multi meter some attention. It's now in good repair and ready for another thirty years. Thanks for the inspiration.

[@crteaser9726]

Lol finally a tutorial on tokin replacement in English so i can understand what they are doing thanks man good vid going to fix my fat ps3 soon

[@sagarkinger7068]

Is your ps3 in ylod ?

[@crteaser9726]

@@sagarkinger7068 yea i thought that was implied

[@JackMeyHoffer562]

@@crteaser9726 how is it now?

[@eyesvisionsight]

How it went?

[@dangelini1137]

How did it go?

[@joshuataylor7066]

Vince:"every millimeter counts" Me:😏" that's what she said "

[@AdamKeyz]

Seems like theres hope for these PS3s yet, will be especially worth it on PS2 compatible models. Unfortunately they are just that noisy, even when new, not much you can do about that. As for the update, the update file would have been on the game disc. This was common practice as back then in the earlier 2000s, not everyone had the internet, especially fast internet and since some updates were required to play some games like this one, it was the best way to roll it out. This also helped with anti piracy by making sure that updates could still be pushed even if the console was not connected to the internet. I might be wrong but I think Nintendo still does this with the Switch, I'm sure I've seen some games push a system update from the game cartridge itself.

[@honestguy7764]

Adam Keys The psp used that update system

[@LeeMc007]

If they're delidded and MX4'd underneath and on top of the lids they are virtually silent, I've just done 2 backwards compatible Phat's that have been lurking in the loft for years with Ylod's, replaced tokin's and delidded and they're both virtually silent now even playing intensive games.

[@jm036]

​@@LeeMc007 died in 2 weeks?

[@LeeMc007]

@@jm036 Nope, sold one to a friend who still uses it, my steplad has the other and uses it every week, still quiet too. 👍

[@itsanarse]

It's not normal, you need to delid it and apply fresh paste. I didn't use thermal adhesive. Two years later and it still hasn't rammed up to full fan speed. Good luck

[@mikeanderson1994]

No i think its normal what if he delid it and broke something those chips are hard to open i think its best to leave it as is since it works fine

[@itsanarse]

@@mikeanderson1994 the fans are on full for a reason, I had a lot of practice de-lidding. I'm sure he's capable. Ultimately it is his choice, I am just offering my advice based on my experiences. Thanks.

[@Harryd06]

@@itsanarse yes I’m with u cause it really does dry up badly under them heat spreaders

[@FeisarX]

He doesn't need to delid... his thermal paste application was unnecessarily conservative and a bit of a mess. One bead in the center in addition to what he did would have made a huge difference. He also didn't apply pressure to the chips evenly screwing the heatsink back on. I put mx4 on my fat ps3 a few months ago and it's been as quiet as they get under any load. Certainly not this bad.

[@lubomirrolko1967]

Very good job. I also learn about my mistakes. I've already killed 2x xbox 360 and PS3 fat console. They are irreparable and only suitable as spare parts. You are my inspiration and I admire your sense of trouble finding. Whenever I find out that you have released a new video, I stop working and watch what you have prepared.

[@Fallen608]

>Tossed not one but 2 60GB OG PS3's back when everybody was tossing around theories about lead free solder or the GPU itself being fucked with no proper fix. And now they're fixable. Fantastic.

[@plektosgaming]

The way you can tell are two easy signs: 1: storage not found intermittently on boot means not enough power. 2: immediate light with no fan spin-up/just the PSU fan alone. This is a power issue(PSU or caps). If it spins up and tries to boot but then fails, it's something else most likely. Note that this is rare - almost all that I have seen are no activity - red/yellow light immediately with no fan.

[@eynotj7011]

@@plektosgaming how about on slims ? , mines turns off on certain games

[@travisperegrine7329]

@@eynotj7011 You probably just need to repaste and remove dust buildup on your slim. There are lots of videos on how to do it.

[@kylecalobtraceharper]

Yup ive chunked like 3 BC away one got an unfortunate end with a 12 gauge😂

[@ROCKSTARMANIC12]

@@plektosgaming What do you mean by If it fan starts to spin then stops then yellow light then the 3 red beeps? could be something else??

[@blakeeggleston2716]

My old PS3 was always like an aircraft, used to have to not play it at night when I was younger because it used to keep my dad awake 😂

[@Harryd06]

Lol

[@bobbiesterling574]

21:45 on most consoles, a copy of the software update needed to play the game is stored on the disc. this is to allow those who do not have access to the internet to still play the games.

[@AdamTheHammer]

never mind! i missed the part where you said you could scratch away the solder mask, so i did that and used one of the rails to solder on and the other side was soldered to the part of the board i scratched away, top man! youre the best vince!

[@Cool-vp1wh]

Hey do u know if I’m supposed to change all 4 capacitors or just 1

[@AdamTheHammer]

@@Cool-vp1wh well when I done it I changed 1 out and tested it and it worked after changing that 1 every time.

[@abdulhkeem.alhadhrami]

Watching your videos is always a leaning experience!

[@MrJozza65]

I picked up a fat PS3 from a boot sale this summer; works fine but the fan is dead noisy. I'd be interested to see if there is a way to make it quieter, and if so, it would be good to see you cover it in a future video. Nice work on the caps replacement.

[@Yourdaywillcome]

MrJozza65 needs de-lid that’s why it’s loud. My friend did his and now it’s so quite.

[@fendularatsq2317]

That model is a treasure for moding, it can play everything with cfw, also noise is typical for that model. I suggest fan replacement and heatsink mod if you want to make it amazing console. Nice fix never the less. Cheerio !

[@floridamangonwild]

heatsink mod?

[@DEXXXO]

So nice Mate your showing the Truth, also after Replace with New Thermal Paste the Console gets no much quieter, the PS3 Fat 60Gb is in generall a loud Console same like all others.

[@mrbussey]

Great fix! Truly amazing! I can't wait to see if this fixes the old backward compatible one you worked on previously!

[@bigbadtroll7353]

Jim Bussey ive got a old jail broken phat ps3 that’s backwards and has failed to the ylod. Soon as I can get me some I’m gonna give it ago

[@codysimpson911]

@@bigbadtroll7353 I messed mine up trying to do preventive maintenance.

[@bigbadtroll7353]

Cody Simpson that’s not good..

[@codysimpson911]

@@bigbadtroll7353 yeah, I already replaced it with another 60 gig ps3. I bought the new one from a pawn shop. I took it home and did the same type of maintenance and nothing happened. I even bought another 60gig ps3 just in case and something went wrong. I don't know how I messed up the first one. It gets the yellow light of death and it has never overheated. Ever since I did the maintenance it never turned back on.

[@matt.108]

Cody Simpson how did you mess it up? I got a 80Gb ps3 GLOD. Fixed the GLOD, ran the console for a bit after and it randomly shut down. Get a YLOD about a second after I reach the XMB. Wondering if it’s a PSU problem or something on the board.

[@retroonyoutube5402]

Is there any harm in replacing the nec tokins with new nec tokins?

[@matt.108]

My Mate VINCE could you do another ps3 YLOD capacitor vid? Wanted to see how common that issue is. Thanks

[@m1tx0]

How long do them capacitors last? Also, do you need to remove the old ones, or can you just solder a bit of wire to the board and to the new capacitors?

[@CarsonG1017]

Tantalum capacitors can last around 20 years, and while you could solder wires in there too, there would be very little room to do so

[@artificialenemy77]

Good job getting the ps3 fixed. I enjoyed the repair job.

[@retrobox5677]

put cfw to see temps in webman.

[@GenesHand]

This, also you can change the fan speeds.

[@Mooseguy15]

@@GenesHand It's a FAT, chances are it's probably idling about 66-68c on the CPU and maybe 54c on the GPU, I have mine Liquid metal'd between the IHS and Die and use MX4 between the heatsink and IHS, and it still reaches these temps. Gotta love 90nm

[@BigeSnek]

Ca l my fat before cfw cpu idled at about 80 degrees Celsius and rsx was around 70-75 degrees Celsius. Now with web man fan control the cpu is at 65 degrees Celsius all the time and the rsx is around 60 degrees Celsius at all times

[@BigeSnek]

Ca l oh and I also had the 17 blade fan witch isn’t that efficient. So a week ago I swapped it out with a 15 blade fan and I checked non-fan control temps with the 15 blade and the cpu sat around 74-76 degrees Celsius and rsx chip was around 66-72

[@Jackchirak97]

@@BigeSnek You swapped an official fan for another ? I've been trying to search for better ps3 fat fans but it seems apart from official sony ones, there's none...

[@WizardNumberNext]

Did I at last find proper fix for YLOD?

[@flyingmalkie4346]

Did you?

[@ponymagico4000]

Did you¡

[@tedroddy]

did you?

[@113odyssey]

Is this console still working okay for you? I just did the first NEC token on a broken bc console and unfortunately it was a no-go.. thinking about doing the second and seeing where that gets me. I need to order more capacitors first though

[@erichberg2391]

Have you tried to solder the new capacitors in parallel, ie "Piggyback" method?

[@stpdsaucepan2558]

He didn’t put bridges at the new capacitors so is it necessary to do that

[@cybcarr]

Hey Vince! Thank you for these! I really appreciate your doing here. May We know what this "magnifier" called you are using in this vid? Thanks! :)

[@Een_Thijs]

You can just cut the heatspreaders away without thermal adhesive. The rsx is glued down on the 4 chips but they don't need to be glued back on, just thermal compound on the main chip would solve it. As for the cell, that one is a lot more difficult to delid. The heatspreaders on that one is held on by a silicon adhesive and needs to be cut away with a really thin knife. If you are interested I could explain it in more detail so you can try it yourself.

[@StaticVapour590]

I delidded my fattie with clay knife

[@frassyfrass3174]

Painters knives are also fantastic. There's a good one that I use if you google 5pc painters knives. The number 1 is very thin and short so it's hard to hit the die of the CPU. Just heat up the heatspreader and it goes through fairly easily. Also very cheap!

[@kiseli1000]

@@frassyfrass3174 Painters knives are great, i also sharp them with 3000 grid sandpaper.

[@lynchpyn7805]

Vince, Love your videos mate, but you CAN change the tip on the hot air to suit the size of the job you are doing! Seems you take the 'one size fits all' approach :P

[@Fate8888]

Hey, Vince, i have accidentally bought A 476 47UF 6.3V instead of the 477 you're using. Do you think these caps i got would still work? Seems they're half the physical size of what you worked with in the video.

[@SirZanZa]

did they work?

[@Fate8888]

@@SirZanZa I still havent replaced them. Totally forgot about them actually until you messaged :D

[@Tehstroyer]

Hey man, thanks for the vid. I have a few questions to you or maybe anyone else that did this before I attempt it myself: - How has the console hold up? Still working? - Any other methods for removing the old chips for someone without a heat gun? I saw someone mention in the comments that they destroy easily and you can just desolder the remaining pads. - Would trying to pre-tin the caps instead of the PCB traces be any helpful? Or are SMD components too fragile for that?

[@iSamYTBackup]

the problem is usually the rsx because of bad design by nvidia same thing happened to the Xbox 360 and the xenon chip IT WAS NEVER THE TOKINS IT WAS THE RSX

[@SjP_92]

14:53 nice choice of music, gets me thinking of Amadeus 1984 x)

[@BigeSnek]

Do you know what song that is?

[@SjP_92]

@@BigeSnekkzbin.info/www/bejne/inuZlmeuZ9-ip7s&ab_channel=MarcoAntonioVillalobos i found it, and it's not just similar, it clearly is the same music

[@BigeSnek]

@@SjP_92 Thanks bro. I was also able to find one too. It’s the exact same song that was in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJOlnGiPbNJ6r8k

[@jasejj]

Great video Vince. After watching this KZbin pointed me to a video where the guy cuts the NEC caps out with a sharp blade, so it seems like you don't need to heat them up.

[@viniciusfonseca9264]

Hello, the reason the fans are kicking up and getting so loud is because both cpu and gpu are getting much hotter then they should, they need to be delided. Remember, under the IHS (integrated heat spreader - the flat metal that covers both cpu and gpu) theres also a lit bit of thermal paste contacting the die of the processors, and this thermal paste is extremely dried up by now, causing them to overheat and the fans going 100% trying to compensate. Deliding is hard, very delicate process. I killed my first ps3 trying to do it, but i learned from my mistakes and saved a friend's fat ps3 in the beginning of this year. A tip for deliding: VERY thin tool, no sharp edges, slow and steady. There's a channel called "NSC Modz", the guy shows the tools he uses and how he does it. I learned from him, made my own tools based on his. That's it. Looking forward for you to try it some time, it's challenging.

[@k.a6555]

Hi, what is name of polish to use makes shiny for ur ps3 body?

[@rorykelly8275]

Hi Vince, is the PS3 still working? Just wondering how long it lasted.

[@c055ie]

You’re killing it, it needs the lids took off the cell and rsx and new paste put under them all will be quiet, still my original ps3 and it’s as quiet as a mouse no matter what’s being played on it

[@abrahamordonezzarco785]

Awesome so replacing tokins from that side will fix it hopefully and what about the tokins on the other side I mean on the rear there the GPU is placed. I have never seen some one replacing it... Are they originally in parallel so changing one side is enough??

[@windowsrules2302]

Thank-you so muh for this video - I learnt so much. It was also refreshing to find someone else with this problem because it is so hard to diagnose I never thought that it might be a capaitor problem, as none of the other sites that i have sen have said that it might be a prolem. . Once I will give it a try when i have sourced applicable capcitora.

[@TekkiesIncBartlett]

So phat model come with 1200uf if you divide that you have to many of the 470uf on those rails, also be easer to put 4 330uf as there smaller easy to and cheaper?

[@maxchinchin2573]

Hi, why some videos required to scratch off the board near/around the NEC Tokin capacitors but yours not required to do so?

[@rainbowgr13]

Why you don't change the NEC Tokin OE128 capacitors with new ones or even similar ones like VISEN.I think it would be easier.

[@Tylerjrb]

Nice fix Vince! Glad you stuck with it and tried every possibility after repairing the last one the same way. Hopefully this will give a few other peoples dead playstations another lease of life.

[@skorpion8051]

Jakich używasz kondensatorów po wymianie nec tokinów 470uf 6v?

[@technixbul]

First you made caterpillar from connector, now a growing tree from capacitors :D This made my day :D This board has very large heat dissipation pads so low temps here might not be sufficient, you can test surface temperature with probe, solder melts around 200C (typically 187C) so you can see when surface barely get to that temp. Anyway you getting better. However, on low voltage-high current devices, resistance between power rails is very low, probably around 10-50 Ohms, if you don't measure 0 Ohms or close to 0 then there is no short as you see it works even when you think you measured short. multimeter will beep on everything lower than 50 Ohms.

[@LeeMc007]

Hi Vince, I know you probably won't revisit PS3's now but removing the Tokin's is very easy if you use a chisel, yes a chisel, 12mm wood chisel couple of taps with a pin hammer and they're off with no damage to the board/pads or surrounding components, you can remove them all in 5 mins, I kid you not it's very very easy this way.

[@mthanry]

Thanks for the video Vince. I'm waiting for caps to arrive from China to replace those NEC/TOKIN caps on a PS3 with the yellow light of death.

[@eyesvisionsight]

How’d it go?

[@mthanry]

@@eyesvisionsight Worked like a charm! Although I struggled soldering the caps but after a bit fiddling, it worked

[@eyesvisionsight]

mthanry bruhhhh can you link me the caps you used? How many do I need?

[@habzmiah]

@@eyesvisionsight type tantulum 470uf 6v on Ebay

[@eyesvisionsight]

Bibah Videos thank you!!! I wanna fix my old ps3 fat. My brother gave it to me long ago and it was his friends. He had lots of memories with it so I wanna do it for his bday today which is today. It’ll be a late present but nonetheless nice to do

[@akminds52]

If this actually the solution for fixing the YLOD there's gonna be a bunch of people going into the attic or on Ebay trying to fix these things now. Hoping this console you've repaired doesn't die too soon! This has been an interesting watch.

[@StaticVapour590]

It is, PCB is way too thicc to be able to break the solder balls under the BGAs from bending of the heat. Neither can heat from CPU/GPU cause the solder balls to melt, they do not run over 190°C that is required to melt solder..

[@kevinragsdale6256]

@@StaticVapour590 ikr, that whole "solder balls reball blah blah" is a myth.

[@coreforge]

@@kevinragsdale6256 Louis Rossmann had a good video about that. Basically, when the board does flex, reflowing or reballing can help, but if there isn't a lot of flex in the board, a dead chip is more likely. If the chip is dieing, heating it up even below the melting point of the solder can temporarly revive it, but it isn't a long term solution. It might however work if you need to get some data and it's encrypted and the key is stored on that chip.

[@kevinragsdale6256]

@@coreforge Ive seen hiw video on it. All the ones Ive had that didnt work would be fixed by swapping the capacitors on it

[@weeurey]

Is it possable to do this with just a soldering iron? I have a ps2 compatible ps3 but i dont have a fancy heat station, I have a black and decker heat gun if that might work?

[@carlosbragatto]

Yes but you'll have to remove the NEC TOKIN with a sharp knife. It can be done, there are loads of videos on youtube.

[@geraldv203]

See how difficult it is with an appropriate tool on 4layers boards with a huge ground plane like this PS3 motherboard. With a heat gun you can't afford the accuracy of temperature as a SMT Rework Station, witch can control heat within a degree where you're working. Be sure to practice A LOT before any attempt on the real hardware.

[@tdub8719]

Sorry to bother you but I need help Vince please. I've removed the old tokin caps of my PS3 but it left residual rubbish on the pads/rails which I can't seem to remove or melt it to braid it away. It's like the original Sony solder does not want to melt. (Even at temp 470) Should I keep loading them up with new solder and keep trying to melt it down. Been spending ages without joy.

[@stantwice9564]

8:47 WHAT is that orange thing ?

[@whatif9858]

That is a capacitor

[@GadgetUK164]

Great job =D The one thing I would have done differently - not covered those tantalums with kapton tape - just because it will help contain the heat! Super looking forward to that other YLOD PS3! I think the one I have here to look at is probably just the laser =/ Makes you wonder how many of the ones previously "reflowed" are these caps that were the real issue?

[@ambronhib5561]

Thought the same on the tape part ^^ let the heat go mate ! ;)

[@AngaarUriakhil]

Isn't the intention behind using the tape to prevent shorts with the metal shield ? After all there are big blobs of solder there.

[@B9NE]

@@AngaarUriakhil yes

[@nicoful86]

one problem though, the caps will touch the metal shielding and could short out. I remember this when doing the same repair a couple of years ago

[@lukepopowich891]

Question. Why did you not have to connect the positive ends together? I’ve seen another tutorial that says you have to do that

[@bigbadtroll7353]

@vince do you have a link to where you got them from

[@gustavefrankfurter6462]

So, the dreaded YLOD might be repaired by capacitor replacement? I did the whole old style repair and didn't get any hours of gameplay out of it. I watched the movies stored on the HD, paused it to go pee, and came back to a YLOD again! Any other suggestions?

[@momfiethehunter504]

Replace those caps and it will work again

[@carlosvalderrama7438]

U need to replace those nec capacitors as Vince did in the video bro ! I repaired my old fatty ps3 backwards compatible with this method and it works like brand new. Before the repair my ps3 ylods on boot and after many attempts it managed to turn on but when i tried to play a game guess what, ylod again. (That is a sign of nec tokin issue because of the lost capacitance over years or due to the heat) i recommend u doing this procedure to fix ur ps3

[@momfiethehunter504]

@@carlosvalderrama7438 the caps he used are also more reliable than the original nec capacitors

[@funkflex75]

The capacitors are Not the Problem,he heated up the GPU from under the Board,the ylod will come back.

[@momfiethehunter504]

@@funkflex75 no. That is false info. The real issue is the caps. Yes the ylod will come back if you replace the caps but that will probably happen 20 years later if it is still being used by then. To add to the fact you say he heated the gpu. Yes he heated the gpu but the heat that travelled through the board was not even close to the temperature required for solder to melt so your theory is false. Please read the artical about how to replace the caps and then come back to me and tell me that I'm not right . Article on how to replace the caps and why to replace them: www.psx-place.com/threads/tutorial-nec-tokin-capacitors-replacement-ylod-fix.25260/

[@GC-xl3is]

Could i replace my NEC capacitor on a 60gb model with a capacitor from an 80gb model?

[@eileenlucynakurosawa7421]

What about the Cell BE capacitors, shouldn't be changed too or only those supplying power to RSX????

[@theoldschoolgamer6199]

Very interesting video! I've been given a fat PS3 that had the YLoD and I'm planning on replacing the capacitors. I've checked on ebay, and I've found some Tantalum 470uf 10v close to where I live. Is the 10v gonna be a problem? How many capacitors should I replace and for how many should I replace them?

[@corybrown5583]

As long as you’re using Solid SMD 470uf tantalum capacitors. You can use any with a voltage rating at or above 2volts. You can use 16v if you had to... The voltage is just the amount the chip can handle before it burns out. I ordered some 10 volt on eBay and they worked fine. You can also solder the new capacitors straight instead of crooked by scratching some of the green off the board where the holes are at so they fit. As long as you scratch inside the marked area you will be okay. Just do the positive ends and use the original negative plates. I’m not sure what voltage is actually running through the chips but it’s probably around 1 volt give or take which is why I would just get some 2 volt or higher.

[@treenamcgowan7652]

We used to have a fatty and as memory serves it was always loud.

[@StuartZiane]

My ex was fat (her description not mine) and I used to call her a fog horn :)

[@antolingustavo1040]

I fixed mine by doing this!! Thank you so much!!!!

[@flyingmalkie4346]

did youy use exact same capacitoras? Some say 330 uf others 470, and what type of case are they? D?

[@antolingustavo1040]

@@flyingmalkie4346 i ordered the 470uf 6.3v type D from ebay item # 322335609193

[@dangelini1137]

Is it still holding up? I did mine (changed only one nec) and I died again a couple months later

[@ArcaneTuber]

How much did it cost to you? also how much would it be if we don't have soldering equipment?

[@grandtheftautoivful]

Hello Vince where can I buy these components plz need those chips...

[@Harryd06]

To make it even better you should delid the cpu and gpu, because that’s the thermal paste that drys up and causes the fans to run at a high speed to try and cool it. I would delid them both and apply new thermal paste on the dies then put the heat spreaders back on and it will run much cooler, and a less chance of ur cpu and gpu dieing

[@TobiEstosWorld]

thx that you made a revisit. i love it to finish things nicly and clean at least :)

[@cortbino6172]

I have a ps3 that I fixed by replacing the NEC tokin capacitors. Oddly the first time I fixed it with a used original NEC tokin capacitor, it worked for a month or so(but only a few hours usage total) then was having intermittent YLOD (would turn on for 1 to 2 minutes then YLOD and turn off).. so I opened it up and used just the iron and flux to solder the tantalum capacitors on it.. it worked for a day, then did the 1 to 2 minute thing again so I went full out and used all the tools this time (the heat gun melted the solder and I got much better connections)and made sure everything was fluxed and soldered really well.. well low and behold it has been running 3 hours a day for 3 days and been fine. I'm not sure if I should sell it though given its history because normally I sell these backwards compatible consoles for 150 to 200 but this one I'm worried it would break on the person that buys it even though I THINK it is good to go now. Maybe sell it for 100 with cords and controller? I'm wondering what I should do lol

[@BigeSnek]

Yes plz sell it. I want a backwards compatible PS3. $100 is good. And what model is it??

[@cortbino6172]

@@BigeSnek I sold it. It was a 60gb model. I may do more of these in the future

[@BigeSnek]

Cortland Gambino oh, okay

[@zerocool278]

Another great video, Very interesting to see the fix working, Maybe find someone that will play it for a week and keep us updated as to how long it lasts etc.

[@vaxick]

I'm very curious about this fix as I have one is the PS2 models I'd love to get working again. I never got rid of it in hopes one day somebody would figure out what was truly going on.

[@zerocool278]

@@vaxick Worth a shot I would think

[@NextGeneration9501]

for those who encounter rlod while playing some games, replacing nec tokins with tantalums will help. i replaced 4 nec tokins with 4x4 470uf tantalums & voila, problem solved! it's really weird tho. the nec tokins suddenly stopped working properly after 12 years...average to no usage per day since bought in 2008

[@noface6037]

Hey this may be a bit of a late comment but what're some of the tools you used for this? Especially that stuff you poured out of the syringe?

[@dangelini1137]

Thermal paste

[@gokhankadoglu2612]

Hello Vince am i missing something, as u mentioned u already fixed problem, why u changed that electrolytic capacitor with tantal caps ?

[@PiMania]

You cannot close the case/lid of PS3 with other caps.

[@gokhankadoglu2612]

Pi-Mania thank u 🙂

[@seguramlk]

Hey @Mymatevince. Is it still working?

[@Alucard6X]

Will these do? AVX 470uF 6.3V SMD (Surface Mount) Tantalum Capacitor D 7343 10% MOLDED 100% TIN RoHS (Continuous strip of 5), found them on amazon.

[@frankstrasser6108]

So what is replacing those caps doing and do they go bad plus why not change with the same kind?

[@rext7015]

Why not using higher power soldering gun and larger gun tip for such a large area pad?

[@TheNightmare_05]

Hello sir, I have a question. If I replace one NEC/TOKIN capacitor, will not the console YLOD anymore or I have to replace all of them? Sorry for my bad english.

[@smgofdvld]

really appreciate your videos this was very informative thank you 👍

[@marksmith5156]

I'm looking forward to seeing if it's the capacitors rather than the chips got 3 of the children's phat ps3s now to look at its confidence in having a go but its getting better thanks to watching your well explained video's

[@daneayers7483]

Cool video man I know it's old but I enjoyed watching it. Back in my day I soldered my own downgraders and did my own micro soldering. Used the Nor tristate and flashers to fix things. I have some old ps3 fats laying around thought I'd fix them up. I thought it would be the solder under the cpu that made the ylod but obviously I was a wrong. Thanks for the capacitor trick. I think this will be much easier I'm going to use trace lines to connect the capacitors together then bend them in the middle and they will only need 1 tack solder onto the traces. Just thought I'd share. Thanks man 😁

[@Toqhy]

Hey mate just bought the ir pro and IR6500 reballing machines they r 1500watts will they work in the house or does it need big power to heat up

[@Ertz86]

Do you think for testing purposes i could use two 6.3v 1000µF capacitors?

[@Bandolero0612]

Is there any soldering products that you recommend? I want to get mine to work again so i can disable the ps3 account and transfer everything to a new one .

[@D3mO44]

Is it only these set of capacitors that would fail on the ps3? Or are the other NEC's prone to failure too? I replaced those exact same ones as the video, the YLOD went away, but then came back after being on for 10-15 seconds.

[@B9NE]

The metal casing may have touched the solder blobs causing a short.

[@cryptotooth]

Just a thought, would it make a neater job to solder multiple thin wires to the underside of the cap and solder the other end into the board holes or long pads directly, then just glue it all down to stop shorts? I'm about to fix a couple so advice would be appreciated.

[@dan_1150]

Any update if this fix has lasted Vince?

[@dangelini1137]

I also would like to see how it held up. I did mine (replaced only one nec), revived the console from YLOD for about one month and it died again.

[@josephnealeUKscratchcards]

Great video as always 👍🏻❤️

[@Casmar27]

Any updates on this fix? Is the ps3 still working.

[@AdamAve93]

Still very quiet for a PS3 system. Mine was so loud we couldn’t even talk in the same room and 💥 it ylod on me. Got it working again though. Replaced all thermal pads and paste and the two capacitors like you showed and was all good.

[@yunkshione-1016]

I'm actually interested on how you fixed the previous capacitors.

[@animasyonyapmc7644]

Can I use electrolite instead of tantalum, at least for a short time?

[@etmoimeme]

when the capacitors are seated, you can use both your iron tip and the hot air gun on the joint to help the solder to melt and make a good bond. The hot air gun prevents the iron tip's temperature to drop too much when it touches the solder

[@IMDYT420]

You could also just use a bigger tip and more heat on your soldering iron. Also investing in a preheater would help.

[@retititu]

cpu and gpu power caps are always beeping in diode mode because these lines are very low on ohms... just test it on every mainboard, always the same. thats no error just ohms‘ law

[@JensReparerer]

You are so cool. I love your videos. You inspired me to do a similar channel althog its on danish. Ive been going for a half year now, and my repairs is more simple. Im not so talented as you. so thanx for good content. Kh Jens

[@dlpvapor919]

What is that snowy screensaver called, I cant find it and I miss it.

[@ghorner11]

Is it still working today?

[@mustaphaessahihi1762]

Hi what the issue that this caps do My PS3 FAT was working fine and today I wanted to play the last of us I have downloaded the game but I was surprised that the console won't display picture on monitor I opened and give a good cleaning and changed the thermal paste but it didn't work l. Just the green light on the console and no picture at all tried deferent monitor and HDMI cable but it didn't work still the same problem. Is this issue related to those capacitors?

[@AcornElectron]

Go on then. Mine will probably go south one day so nice to see every possibility. Separate note. I have a ps2 tv. Interested in fixing it? Edit: I only ask because I tried and can’t.

[@caprisnowhill8663]

thats one video i would like to see him do

[@DevawnM367]

What's wrong with it? A buddy of mine had a pstv and it needed a $5 eeprom chip replacement. Was a pretty easy fix. Seems like it was a very common issue with them when I was looking it up also.

[@chrishill699]

Thats a video I would watch

[@mrgotek8773]

I have a ps3 fat and it has Ylod i need it fixed

[@moeezoggy5266]

Does it still works?

[@andresb2834]

hello , good video , can you tell me how to know if nec/tokin is bad, how to check?

[@191matrix]

Hi Vince. Will there be a Christmas special perhaps. I'm thinking maybe buying and fixing a more powerful boat and conquering the mighty river 👍😊

[@PeteSimpson]

A Christmas special, Vince will probably fix a broken stand leg for a Christmas tree 😎

[@spicydeath82]

wait, shouldn't the fat model play ps 2 games? i thought they dropped that for the slim and then the slider model? i'm pretty sure the second iteration of ps3 fat dropped the dedicated hardware and went with emulation for ps2. or was there a 3rd iteration of the fat ps3 that had no ps2 compatibility? confused.

[@plektosgaming]

The last versions of the FAT models were only software emulated and about half compatible. CECHAxx and CECHBxx have a physical PS2 chipset in them and run every title.

[@matst3954]

Vince u must have an Aladdin's cave full of consoles controllers etc haha what do u do with them all once u have repaired them? Great vid as always.

[@StuartZiane]

He sells them on so that he can buy more flux ;)

[@AndrewFomin]

Vince, I already said this and will say again: buy soldering paste. It is much easier to solder SMD components using paste. Especially if you solder using under a microscope and using the thinnest and pointiest soldering tip you have. Instead of huge and ugly solder blobs, you will get nice factory-looking solder joins.

[@perfectshave85]

Could you heat the solder paste with an iron or would a hot air station work better??

[@PotchPlays]

man i hqve rlod ps3 slim and is it okay to use a 470uf capacitor but not nec tokin? just like what you used first.