Revisiting Netrunner - Old Favorites and Nisei's Latest

[@CB-sp6sx]

I would totally Patreon you guys if you were playing netrunner regularly

[@elaineiris5198]

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[@tzera_rhuon]

This game is too damn good to have been cancelled twice. It's dripping with theme and flavour no other game comes close to matching.

[@johannesisaksson8553]

I hurt a little everytime someone brings up netrunner only to be followed immediately by "too bad it died". It did not die! We never stopped playing, there are still new cards coming out and there's an active tournament scene. You're all welcome back at any time.

[@ClosDeLaRoche87]

NISEI will release a product called System Gateway in a few months. It will be designed to introduce new players to the game with pre-built decks and simple mechanics. Please cover when it is released :)

[@na01jsn]

Really cool. Or get us old timers back =)

[@7sleepyface]

Is it out yet ?

[@ClosDeLaRoche87]

@@7sleepyface NISEI announced a release date for December. They also announced a new Core Set called System Update of reprinted FFG cards but with the new NISEI template and new art

[@maxwellschultz4784]

The only things I've seen by Nisei is Ashes and Uprising. Have there been more boxes come out?

[@ClosDeLaRoche87]

@@maxwellschultz4784 System Update and System Gateway release in December. BTW World's is next weekend! I believe NISEI will focus on their new product releases with scoops once World's is done

[@claudiofico4084]

Yes please, more netrunner please

[@pythonxz]

I'm so glad that NISEI is supporting Netrunner. It is one of the most interesting Card Games ever.

[@topherplus3277]

Everytime I get back on the ANR bandwagon I find myself rewatching all your videos. In fact, we now play ad hoc netrunner days with the only restrictions being one core (of any type), one deluxe box and one datapack. We call it Covenant format. Has allowed a bunch of casual players to get some balanced games in without having to keep up to date with all the MWL and rotations etc. Very keen to see more of these netrunner streams.

[@teamcovenant]

Love it Topher. That format should be THE format for competitive LCGs.

[@flniggl5016]

A friend showed me the game 2 days ago and since then i watched all your Netrunner videos. please make more. i love them :)

[@andrewcartwright7049]

My favorite part of this stream, was after game 1, when Steven got rid of table view, you can see Zach's tokens all neatly stacked, and Steven's are just everywhere. It made me chuckle.

[@dreamwalker0024]

First off, wasn't sure you two were the same two I'd been watching lately since the long hair lol. Found you guys since I've been watching your netrunner how to videos and game plays. Didn't realize the videos were as old as they were (not to mention this one too). Got me all excited about the game till I found out I can't buy it anymore (unless I want to sell my first born). Love watching you guys play, would love to see more of this game

[@teamcovenant]

We just did another Netrunner video last week, too! Great to have you along.

[@blakhawk61]

Your learning netrunner series got me into the game, thanks much. It is the best card game I have ever played. Thanks again. Unfortunately I didn't see the tutorials until after revised core released and the game was discontinued not too long after. Thanks NOT so much. Personally I would love to see more netrunner games played. I really appreciate when you guys take the time to explain actions and timers.

[@AACoCo0506]

Y'all are such a joy to watch. Great banter, positivity, and fun gameplay. Honestly, your "Learning Netrunner" series is what got me into the game a few years ago. I'm so appreciative of you bringing back Netrunner to the table. Keep up the amazing work!

[@Typhestus]

I am so happy to be able to see this! Netrunner was my ultimate favourite card game and it brings back so many memories. Gotta check out Jinteki and NISEI to keep on running then.

[@monsieurtasse4463]

I just started to play with some friends, and your Learning series has been super helpful, along with netrunnerdb decks. I only played on jinteki so far due to the circumstances, but hopefully, I'll be printing some decks in the future!

[@lystic9392]

Let me know how it goes ^_^ I have the old core set and some cards from here and there, and I can kick myself for missing the Revised Core and the Kitara cycle.

[@nickhumberstone3816]

The latest rotation info is on NISEI's website. Genesis, spin, and creation and control are now out, and also any core sets are gone, replaced by NISEI's system core 2019. It's so great to see this again. Your tutorials got me into netrunner way back when, and now I own a full set and hope to play some tournaments after this lockdown :) The most-wanted list (restricted and removed cards) is also available from NISEI. I'd recommend playing with just the System Core 2019 to get back into it, and to have some creative restriction to what you can choose

[@dave0754]

I absolutely love the "retired runners" cards from NISEI: The Artist (Kate McCaffry), The Class Act (Andromeda) and The Nihilist (Noise). Such a beautiful hommage to Android Netrunner past greats.

[@glennovikoff7042]

I have wanted to get into this game for at least 5 years. With your great videos and tutorials I have assembled each of your tutorial decks, have an understanding of the basics, and am excited to get into this game now.

[@anthonypearson2509]

The best game played by the best people.

[@beorik]

LOVED IT, thank you! I appreciate you throwing it up on KZbin because life circumstances dictate that I can only watch stuff like this in chunks.

[@Emerys15]

You guys should definitely come back to this! I miss this game and content!

[@patriciomendez644]

I will watch all your netrunner content. Love watching you guys play while talking about it. As you said, it's the best spectator card game.

[@FrRuy-vc3zc]

Yeah! Love seeing you guys play Netrunner! There's not much content where players explain their choices a bit in such a way that a non-specialist can follow. This is such a great game! I'd love to see more!

[@achipinthesugar]

“Sleeveless in Seattle” under his breath. Magnificent.

[@FruityGoblin]

This is fantastic! I have only just found this game and have started watching your videos on it which are brilliant. Thank you so much for making such great content.

[@ClosDeLaRoche87]

System Gateway and System Update 2021 are released March 28th!

[@andrewjolly319]

Hey guys I found this when googling for the old learning netrunner videos - they got me into NR and I just wanted some nostalgia during lockdown. Delighted you're coming back to the game!

[@drew8235]

I'm so thankful that someone is continuing this. I was always really wanting to play it but couldn't afford it at the same time as the Star Wars LCG. Never ever thought it would be discontinued.

[@writerguy911]

I caught a little of the live stream but love this game. Have a ton of the data packs but never actually found anyone to play with in South Korea (even though there is a huge community of fans over here). Thank you for letting me live once again vicariously through you.

[@businessguy832]

Netrunner!!!! How I miss this.

[@Naomania]

It is so cool, to see you playing it again, hopefully more in the future :) i actually started playing the game just last year and it is sooo good :)

[@andrewjolly319]

Just spent a few hours watching your games. Was great! Especially with you playing with some NISEI cards. I think Zach (Zak?) would like some of the new shaper BS. I got into NR entirely from your learning NR series having never played a TCG/CCG or any competitive gaming before. Just before covid I played in my first tournaments! I know it might not make financial or perhaps legal sense to fully support the fan run stuff but I encourage you to check it out even if it's off camera! Anyway, really fun watching you play with the new cards! Thanks for the video, stay safe and hope your business and staff are doing ok.

[@goldleader20]

Hope you guys do another group of games. I just printed the Nisei's System Core 19 and watched through your netrunner learning series. Excited to start playing for the first time after all this craziness is over.

[@teamcovenant]

Welcome to one of the best card games ever made.

[@toddramsey6893]

So much nostalgia. That Sure Gamble face warms my heart. Wish I hadn't parted with my cards so hastily.

[@MaithSin1]

Play it again! Love this game myself and always enjoy watching you two play it also

[@Belkan2087]

Only played a few matches, but its an excelent game. Probably one of the best together with Magic and Ashes.

[@GrievelornTCG]

The optimism of end of April lol. Would love to see more Netrunner! Running out of videos to watch haha

[@misomiso8228]

Very happy. Was hoping you’d return to Netrunner. 1. The Lack of sleeves hurts me. 2. Were you planning on doing some ‘Nissei’ Netrunner coverage anyway before coronvirus started? 3. I actually find Nissei cards very complex; I like them but don’t think they’re the best for introducing players to the game. 4. What games have you most enjoyed playing so far during lockdown, and are there any you are really looking forward to? 5. You could try a game of Star Wars Armada!!!! 6. Or maybe play a mini DnD Campaign! 7. Those Team Covenant playmats are the best.

[@teamcovenant]

We were looking into Nisei pre-isolation, but like a lot of content "in the pipeline", COVID really has allowed us to blitz the schedule. But trying to get Armada on camera may well be impossible!

[@leopoldbloom8244]

Play more Netrunner! I really appreciate you guys looking into Nisei--any chance you could do Terminal Directive? From what I've read it's very flawed but offers a story arc which could be good viewing longform

[@yipyipyipi]

The biggest flaw was the story arc. One side tends to "get away" from the other, meaning only one person really gets a story. There is a catchup mechanic, but the boost is so tiny it feels quite too little too late. Also the story is entirely too predictable.

[@vo_sk]

Fantastic! Thanks for this cyberpunk return! Netrunner forever :)

[@vo_sk]

Two years ago you guys inspired me to start the journey into Netrunner which still continiues. Nice to see you playing it again, keep it going!

[@악어왕-j3e]

i love your netrunner videos

[@teamcovenant]

Thank you! It's one of our all-time favorite games.

[@jacobstacey6550]

This is great. Hope we see it again soon!

[@JusticeSeeker19]

Still remember the "Plugged-In" tournament at the original TC location. Still have my TC token set for ANR. Stay safe and keep up the good work! You should play through the Terminal Directive live.

[@teamcovenant]

Absolutely loved that event!

[@daveyfamily5503]

There have been a lot of streams lately for games I don’t really know about. I would love if you would do more Netrunner!

[@dave0754]

I can't believe I had not seen this before. I love to watch you guys play Netrunner! I'm excited to see NISEI releasing a new core system early next year. Maybe you could do a partnership with them to retail the game?

[@teamcovenant]

It's weird legally! Otherwise we'd love to.

[@dave0754]

@@teamcovenant oh yeah, that's fair. Well, it was great to see you play. I have watched the "learning series" more times than I can remember now! I like Steven's running play style of taking chances and confusing the Corp, although Zack is a force to be reckoned when playing Corp too...

[@Marinealver]

I saw you flashed the Project Nesi expansion.

[@musikbox83]

@1:20:46 Watching this over a year later and even I audibly let out a "WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!" LOL PS: I love and miss this game so much. It's the only game I've actually played tournaments for, and I'm not a OP kinda of player. Still have my full (other than the R and R expansion) collection and now am looking for old decks to build.

[@thomasromanelli2561]

The friends that run together, stay together (while still observing appropriate social distancing). Be safe, and thanks so much for the stream! 🖖

[@Maw0822]

Netrunner will be even better in 2021!

[@phareux5135]

Would like to see some doomtown reloaded played

[@teamcovenant]

Haha we never even really understood how to play that one!

[@adamsansom2605]

@@teamcovenant That is such a bummer because it is so worth it.... it has great theme and gameplay (just like ANR).

[@r.l.jeffries1091]

I bought a set of those acrylic tokens. Top notch quality.

[@WayOfHaQodesh]

1:39... ah... the nostalgia of so many on tilt games 50/50s.... mmmmmm

[@alexscriabin]

1:57:00 Runner would've won if they ran every uniced remote haha, great bluffing by Corp!

[@MrKikke2]

More of this! Old school Android Netrunner (not Nisei) and L5R!!

[@solodragun]

You know, funny thing is, I grew up playing RPG's, and though CP2020 became my favorite back in my HS days, I felt like the Android universe was a better fit for Netrunner. I love theme and flavor. That said, it still wouldn't have to necessarily be set in Android to be good, but a GOOD cyberpunk setting helps tremendously. The Android setting really is just an updated, cleaner Neuromancer/Blade Runner mash up, with an anime vibe though right? So, all that said, I think there is still room for improvement in the presentation and art dept. Glad the game is still going, but honestly, I'm not digging some of the art and design from NISEI as much. It would be nice to see a lean back toward a bit darker, grittier, and more visceral. Maybe it's just me, but I don't feel like they are able to capture that same Android universe the way FFG did. Something in between Android and CP2020 maybe with more "realistic" pop would be a better approach now?

[@FyterianTV]

i'm really glad you didn't stream this on April 1st HAHA xD looking forward to watching this later!

[@tompollack136]

Why did you guys stop streaming your games and strategy guides? This is literally the best game of all time! I have 95% of the cards ever made and still can’t get enough 9 years later! Always be running!

[@teamcovenant]

We aren't playing the game anymore! But we did get the new System Gateway recently. Going to be getting it on a TBT soon!

[@vysocs]

Guys, you are amazing bloggers. FE, I’m from Russia and I understand every single word. It is such rare thing. And thank you for necessary content, I don’t have opportunity to test Nisei decks, but they are very interesting. More netrunner! Any hope to covenant Nisei subscription? Like other games.

[@teamcovenant]

Thanks so much! A Nisei subscription isn't possible right now because of the dubious legality of the project. We'd love to if/when that's possible, though!

[@Jerig128]

Your commentary of Worlds 2014 was instrumental in my participating in Netrunner - So sad to see what happened to the game

[@jacobstacey6550]

I'd be excited to watch you guys play Star Wars Rebellion on stream, but its hard to get the rules right and also not look smug at the same time for sure.

[@phillosmaster393]

I just want to chime in because it sounded like during the stream there was an overwhelming response saying the theme wasn’t important in netrunner’s success and people would play it regardless of theme. I disagree. My enjoyment was very contingent on the theme being great, the art being excellent and the presentation being well executed. I found the original netrunner to be a great game but i was not as rabid about it because i enjoyed the art way less and while the theme was cyberpunk it wasn’t as engaging as the android universe crafted by FFG. For me to recapture that magic it NEEDS to have both a great system and an engaging theme. Hopefully if someone redoes Netrunner they marry it to as successful a setting.

[@phillosmaster393]

For example I really like the idea of keyforge as a system but i find the theme boring so i never got into it. In contrast i find L5R’s system problematic but I still struggle through it because it has an incredibly engaging story and the theme marries well to the mechanics. I know not everyone will agree with me but i don’t think i’m alone.

[@mella4376]

hear hear

[@boyuanli7843]

NOOOOOO. It just reminds me of how fun this game is and how bad it felt when it died.

[@mella4376]

Hey it's still alive! NISEI is doing an amazing job and the community is still there, both online and in meatspace :)

[@Baa_Ram_Wu]

As Lilian says - still very much alive. There was an online tournament last weekend that ran with about 80 players!

[@lystic9392]

@@mella4376 Don't you still need things like the revised core set to use the NISEI content?

[@mella4376]

@@lystic9392 if you are playing in person you will need a core set, whether that is the original core, the revised one, or the Nisei system core, all of which can be printed over on MakePlayingCards or Drive through. Alternatively you can find the original FFG cards on the secondary market. That said, if you want to play online the Jinteki interface has all cards and is free (supported through voluntary community donations and the effort of some of the players)

[@paultapping9510]

If you're playing older games, I'd be really interested to see you learn/play Vampire: The Eternal Struggle, which came back into print relatively recently.

[@teamcovenant]

We did! kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5vcpJycjrhkkKc

[@paultapping9510]

Awesome!

[@AnesthesiaCat]

my question is will cdpr do a version now

[@TGNXAR]

Crowdfunding is a neat card. It's looking like it will be one of my new favorites.

[@TGNXAR]

@@chrisnelson7646 Nisei invented it.

[@TGNXAR]

Oh, I see what all the tags are for. They are to either use for BOOM! or for Project Beale. Especially combined with Psychographics.

[@BodySnatchers-v5f]

thinking of getting l5r but afraid as soon as i do FF will pull a netrunner

[@maxfailmezger5219]

Deck lists?

[@ookamiprime6646]

The original Netrunner was set in the R Talsorian Cyberpunk 20xx universe.

[@Cherehroo]

mmm...that ASMR re-sleeve at 1:20:00.

[@oneonly2762]

Anychance of putting up the decklists for these decks?

[@teamcovenant]

We were borrowing from friends on these. Unfortunately no deck list typed up for the Nisei decks, but the others are from our Learning Netrunner series: teamcovenant.com/learning/android-netrunner/how-to-play-guide-new-players-anr

[@Delegirous]

Real talk: Now that SysGateway and Update are out, how do we get you guys to play and give your thoughts?

[@teamcovenant]

It's on the schedule. Printed and sitting on the desk currently!

[@Delegirous]

@@teamcovenant you are doing the lords work

[@igormascarenhas]

where can I find the links of the decks played using NISEI cards on the second part before the break?

[@MassacreVegan]

Are OG Netrunner and Android Netrunner compatible? Had heard of the game before but knew nothing about; looks absolutely amazing.

[@teamcovenant]

No, they're too different to be played together. But Android: Netrunner is about as good of a redesign as has ever happened.

[@RowRowFightThePowaa]

Bookmark for me : 3:45:00

[@MaterialSquid]

is FFG or any other company ( i dont understand the licensing) using this game system on a different IP? or is Netrunner ever likely to come back? i'd love to get into it from a restart but couldn't afford the card pool to jump in now

[@teamcovenant]

There's no telling. The copyright on "game systems" is still legally dubious, and no one has really tested the waters too much as far as we know. Who knows what might happen with Netrunner in the future.

[@TheMelon9106]

What kind of core are you using? Is that NISEI too? The graphics are so strange for me.

[@teamcovenant]

Yeah, Nisei!

[@123discgolf]

Thanks for doing this guys! Also, I've said it before and I will say it again. Can't stand the term mulligan! That is a golf term and does not even come close to fitting the theme of this game! It should have been called "Reboot". Hope Nisei adopts this more appropriate term.

[@johannesisaksson8553]

Reboot is a card in the game. ;) netrunnerdb.com/en/card/22023

[@ClosDeLaRoche87]

System Gateway is out!

[@josiahburkhardsmeier3119]

Steven not trashing the resources when Zach was all tagged up hurt me inside! The free card draw alone is such good action economy!

[@teamcovenant]

But he was losing money to drugs!

[@josiahburkhardsmeier3119]

Team Covenant fair enough. Though leaving the one shaper resource out there was unforgivable. :P

[@mrchilixd5297]

Yo this game is so old!! I miss the good old days before it died:/

[@MrN0b0dy85]

I would like to have an open dialog about something that I seem to be in the minority of, I don't like netrunner and I can't figure out exactly why. I played for a bit a few years ago and the game never clicked with me or i never got it or something never sat right with me but it is beloved by so many people. what am i missing and am i crazy for not liking this game?

[@teamcovenant]

Hard to say! That's a big dialogue. It's different, for sure. The fusion of the mechanics and theme though is hard to beat.

[@MrN0b0dy85]

Team Covenant I think it was maybe when i got into the game, which happened to be when asset spam and mil decks were all the rage and it was so uninteresting to me. I get why people love it but I guess when you get a bad taste in your mouth for something it's hard to wash out.

[@yeahgoood]

In 2022 that timber table would cost $8000

[@Astral134]

Living Card Game, died, now they're playing it again. Does that make it an Undead Card Game? Necrorunner.

[@johannesisaksson8553]

It's not dead. NISEI is keeping it alive. There's still a scene.

[@Astral134]

@@johannesisaksson8553 Nisei is the name of the necromancer?

[@johannesisaksson8553]

@@Astral134 Yeah. Project NISEI.

[@Jarah]

Love how much he likes that Matt

[@solodragun]

Shaper... booooo. CRIMINAL 4 L1FE 🤑lol

[@gagrin1565]

Absolutely the game is the strongest part, but the theming was very well applied. But Android on it's own isn't particularly interesting.

[@yeahgoood]

I play netrunner I’m on 1 credit the whole game and making money is like blood from a stone. These guys, 11c and a magnum opus on the table on turn 2. OK.

[@teamcovenant]

It's an economic game!