Revisiting the 8 Passengers: Case of Ruby Franke

[@idamaeology]

I think it’s crazy how when Chad went to the wilderness camp, he apparently gained 10 pounds there. It’s crazy that she was starving her kids so bad that when he went to a wilderness camp and had to ration his food he gained weight

[@samuelcareen5563]

That is insane!!! He probably had the time of his life there.

[@Mollytov840]

Wilderness camps are typically extremely abusive...@@samuelcareen5563

[@simonedegroot905]

Now I'm a lil bit curious to know what the counselors and camp guides thought of it tbh, that *had* to ring alarm bells

[@edenslittlebean7637]

@@simonedegroot905 it was an abusive wilderness camp. I highly doubt they cared 😭

[@Mollytov840]

@@simonedegroot905 Most ""wilderness camps"" are incredibly abusive. Look up the troubled teen industry.

[@gabrielle7540]

That sexual abuse allegation she laid against the kid was extremely strategic. Legally, that child could not be placed with his cousins or his other siblings while they investigated those allegations. One last punishment, isolating him, for being the one who put her where she is.

[@subrosa4792]

One last bit of power exerted over her children.

[@Velvettyy_]

and if that was the case, she would’ve made that public because she’s “raw” and that would’ve been Ruby’s and Kevin’s fault for allowing their son to have access porn

[@Valdemar-Perez-III]

And when she claimed he started watching p**n when he was 3? How does a 3 year old even know what that is let alone know how to use a smart phone? Ruby truly is a monster.

[@lulu-dr4eh]

She’s going to hell

[@TheGalemarie]

The judge was stupid. How could a 3 year old be addicted to porn?

[@briannataylor2964]

Crazy how she got mad at him for giggling about a small prank he did on his brother but found it sooo funny he slept on a bean back for months on ends

[@peppermint23]

she seems to enjoy torturing them and hates seeing them bond without her (the playing/goofing around/pranks clearly makes her feel personally undermined). you can tell she's emotionally a child herself and she more or less admits this. basically just an overgrown mean girl (a narcissist and likely a sociopath) who should NOT be having children.

[@ruwdraws]

Right??

[@pescuezoee]

what a hypocrite

[@4bibimimi]

Everything they did to Chad was to break his spirit. She extended this to all of her children eventually so she could lend them out 4 manual labor😮

[@she5139]

So eerie when chad was talking about the prank he pulled on Russell, he and his siblings were laughing bc it’s all good fun, then ruby says “you think that’s funny?” And they all instantly stopped laughing and chad says “no its not” all serious. These poor kids

[@Velvettyy_]

“that was 7 months ago, maybe you need longer without a bedroom” now this witch is going to spend 4 to 60 yrs without her own bedroom

[@nadyanathania3847]

god forbid children do anything

[@clarissacallidus]

Meanwhile she herself was laughing at punishing her children.

[@Thenightswatch00]

And she literally started smirking when they started laughing and was looking like she was TRYING not to laugh at the story

[@zandikhetwayo7444]

Bro that was so scary wtf😭

[@DanielaBodoh]

I love how Ruby says "just because you're 18 doesn't mean you're fully mature" yet SHE ALSO SAID HER CHILDREN ARE NOT WELCOME TO LIVE WITH HER ONCE THEY ARE 18!!!!! Like seriously Ruby, pick one.

[@raeechil]

And she herself got married at 18..

[@maddyodonnell6441]

she’s so contradicting, she said that and yet expected her 6 YEAR OLD to pack her own lunches

[@malaxes]

@@maddyodonnell6441Another story, when she licked the floor after 5 year old Chad took pineapple from the fridge when she was sleeping and she said he is not allowed go by himself to the kitchen and she will feed him when she wakes up. So 5 years old was not allowed to go the kitchen to take food by himself and 6 years old Eve suddenly was responsible for making lunch.

[@4bibimimi]

​@@raeechilAND pregnant! 😮

[@JaceHok8811]

I still don't understand why the father hasn't been charged too. There's no way in hell that he didn't know about all of the abuse. He was on camera too.

[@userabc123poop]

Exactly. but i think since there wasn't any proof he did any physical abuse to the children, prosecutors couldn't charge him with anything like they could with jodi and frankie. either way it's sad and he deserves jail time too.

[@clementine8853]

@@userabc123poophe was not living with them or present during this time period. They were separated and he was in an entirely separate home. They would have nothing on him in terms of the specific case w/ the child who fled

[@niniemery4758]

@@clementine8853well that could do neglect charge

[@peppermint23]

he knew and he was complicit. he's trying to save his ass now.

[@MaryAnnRodrigues]

Exactly, being in another house away from your kids (especially so many) is no excuse. All of these kids can speak - they're not babies. He didn't have one conversation with a child or check-in with these kids? Makes no sense to me.

[@fadedpolaroid]

PLEASE BRING BACK THE SOCIAL MEDIA VIDEOS LIKE THIS AND THE SHANE DAWSON ONE!! I LOVE THESE SO MUCH!!

[@wynterphe0nix]

ME TOO

[@giotorres1204]

Me Too!!!!!

[@sel3naa]

MY ENTIRE HISTORY IS FULL OF VIDEOS LIKE THIS

[@suddenlyseparated8550]

Agree!!

[@kiwiskie]

Yessss

[@kali8255]

SHES LITERALLY A STAY AT HOME MOTHER. THATS YOUR JOB RUBY. YOU GO OUT OF YOUR WAY TO BRING LUNCH TO YOUR 6 YEAR OLD!!!! This woman literally makes my blood boil. I’m so glad she’s going to prison. Wish the husband would too. Hes at fault too and went along with it all.

[@ExtendoCrescendo]

I didn’t even think about that. When I first heard that I did think it was petty but I didn’t think much of it because if I forgot my lunch in school I would simply eat “hot lunch.” Obviously it wasn’t good.. but I still got to eat. So I’m hoping that’s what happened, but with that prespective she had no reason as a stay at home mom than to drop off a lunch for her daughter real quick. Even if it’s just out of preference because your daughter prefers home lunch but she simply forgot one day (we’ve all been there) it’s not like she’d had to go out of her way to do this!! Just so many small details that make me sad. I can’t help but imagine everything that’s off camera.

[@kaliroberts2738]

i agree with your comment a million percent and wanted to respond to say WE HAVE THE SAME NAME⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@kali8255]

@@kaliroberts2738 so cool. I never meet anyone with my name the way we spell it.

[@kalisue6573]

@@kaliroberts2738Another Kali saying hiiii 👋👋👋

[@Wndrrwall]

This. My mom was a stay at home and she would come to school to bring me ANYTHING I needed even if it was just a coat or a water bottle. The whole point of being a stay at home parent is to be a full time PARENT which means taking care of your children even when it’s inconvenient

[@she5139]

“Like why am i looking through my recommended and your baby is staring right back at me on the thumbnail?” 😭😭 fr though

[@Jfam11638]

Especially if they’re legit crying or angry I remember seeing that DO5 kid Cody’s angry crying face in thumbnails repeatedly

[@outroseok]

I remember there used to be people who thought Shari would end up like her mom, I'm glad once she got out of the house she realized the issues and completely cut off contact with her mom.

[@peppermint23]

her trauma response was likely to fawn/placate her mother and essentially take on the mother role. you can see it in the videos. she likely knew all along it was fucked up but it was her way of surviving. I'm glad she's figured it out fully now. it's like leaving a cult.

[@somberzombie]

⁠@@peppermint23watching the nail polish clip and Shari trying ease the situation.. just wow so sad.

[@peppermint23]

it's so, so sad, and the nail polish thing was no big deal. it was probably some cheap Target rug. a better "lesson" would be to tell her daughter it's okay, mistakes happen, no big deal. let's paint the rug into fun colors using the nail polish. but nope. she's the worst.@@somberzombie

[@deannadanielle]

Shari and I are the same age and even when I was younger I thought that

[@CoRLex-jh5vx]

God just seeing the nail polish clip with Sherri trying to subtly lessen her sister's punishment without annoying Ruby. No kid should have to learn that skill

[@ilsem4674]

Or that moment where she defends Eve not waking up by herself

[@daisystar25970]

Her sister Bonnie is also losing her shit lately. She pulled her kids out of school to go on a 3 month RV trip to Florida and was pissed when the school told her that she needs to do some form of education for her kids while they are away. She has went above and beyond exploiting her kids on all platforms lately and walks around like she is high and mighty because “she isn’t like Ruby” 😂

[@yarioi]

Ikr I find that so funny. All of them are messed up in the head and have issues.

[@dtkells5920]

This and people give her a pass because she’s the “lesser of two evils.” She did blanket training, has always fed her kids tiny amounts of food, her kids have walked around with shoes that were falling apart while she would constantly be buying herself clothing (even more messed up when you think about how the only reason that they have the money is because of the kids!!), locking the kids in their rooms, constantly pulling her kids out of school! That whole family is a MESS. All of those kids will grow up with so many issues.

[@daisystar25970]

@@dtkells5920 Agree! This should have been a wake up call for Bonnie to stop exploiting her kids but instead she just ramped it up to 100x more! Her channel started off as a hair and make up channel and then switched it over to family vlogging when she saw how much money her sister Ellie and her husband Jarad were making from family vlogging. At one point Bonnie’s channel was flagged by KZbin because she had hundreds of videos of her kids crying in distress and pain but even then Bonnie decided to turn the camera on and start crying to her fans so they can beg KZbin to give her, her channel back. Her goal was always to make easy money off of her kids back and she isn’t stopping anytime soon but somehow her fanbase swears she is better? Right …

[@trinh5808]

6​@@dtkells5920

[@K8rtotsnKermitsauce]

And she totally is!! Have you seen her videos about doing the “blanket method” with her infants? Where you put them on a blanket for tummy time, place toys around them and slap them everytime they move off the blanket/reach for a toy?! But ya she’s not Ruby 💀 at first I was like “ok we’ll I’m not my sister or HER mistakes so I feel it” BUT CLEARLY I was mistaken at the time 🫣

[@ava130]

Shari is also so young, and adopting and taking on children (even if they’re siblings) is a HUGE DEAL and with uproot her life. And then she has to worry abt how to pay for them too. I think Shari would be a great parent, but I think the kids need a completely financially stable adult(s). Wishing the best for them all and hope those kids end up in a safe and loving home.

[@scpp127]

I said this when things first came out and got attacked lol. Shari deserves to live her young adult life free of stress and trauma from her childhood and deserves to have a normal relationship with her younger siblings. Those children need someone who can be a real parental figure for them, outside of the trauma.

[@tomuchcamoflauge]

they're all in state custody right now, they were definitely told not to trust any of the family that had moved away, and one off them ran away from her apartment. so it'll get worse before it gets better

[@gabrielle7540]

Idk HOW the dad escaped jail.

[@Apextruebot]

He should take punishment but at the same time he was barley there

[@brynnwharton7677]

Agree. Even if u are not present in the home, it is literally your job to protect your kids. Not to mention he was there during their channel years when it was already snowballing.

[@Apextruebot]

You'd be surprised by how many woman are in control @@brynnwharton7677

[@bellamarie565]

not disagreeing but if he wasn't there he should be charged with neglect as they were still equally his children. @@Apextruebot

[@jameliabangura2365]

and so with that he was emotionally and physically absent which means neglection he should equally be held accountable@@Apextruebot

[@gukgukgukgukguk]

Not her doing the KZbinr apology in court 💀

[@AmandaPaige71]

Omgosh that's exactly what she did!!! 😂😂😂 that's so funny!

[@InkyCatTV]

Crocodile tears. Classic youtuber apology

[@juliatopkin160]

And the fake crying sounds to force herself to cry urg a despicable woman

[@ilsem4674]

Shes should have brought a ukelele

[@arcticmonkeysluvr]

the way she documented all of this as if it was normal behavior is so bizarre to me

[@wellthisisinteresting4912]

She definitely has some personality disorders so she’s not all there in the head. Not to excuse what she’s done of course.

[@CuntillaDeville]

Even more bizarre is the following they all have! People actually enjoy watching it. I imagine a lot of their following is there for the train wreck, to troll and some to keep tabs. But they have people that think these weirdos are great. I’m sure they have all had sponsors on their garbage abuse videos too at some point. There needs to be a lid put on this child labor bullshit on social media. They are literally working! I haven’t heard of ANY child from a family channel getting paid anything from having their life plastered all over the internet.

[@rianna_banana]

So she’s been abusing Russel since he was a baby? I wish I could hug that poor child

[@daylamore3300]

That crazy mom also seemed annoyed whenever her children genuinely laughed together. She tenses up, frowns, makes unhappy faces, etc. But had the nerves to try to act surprised when her children said “we have no friends”. Also making a 6yr old make their own lunch or starve…is insane.

[@mrscatlady912]

As a mom of a 6 month old, HOW DO YOU JUST STAND UP WITH A 15 LB BABY ON YOUR LAP?

[@rianna_banana]

That was likely a lie, because his femur broke from the “fall” which is highly unlikely. She is a monster

[@ilTHfeaa]

how do you break a fkn femur of a baby is more my question bc .. literally wtf

[@keeleysherman2640]

@@ilTHfeaaI’m a PNP. A broken femur in a 6 month old would have been an immediate red flag suspicious for abuse and an immediate call to CPS due to this by the medical provider that treated Russell. The only mechanism for a femur fracture in a baby that young would have likely been due to rotational force (intentional forceful twisting). The story of a fall would not have coincided with that mechanism of injury. It was likely very much intentional, non-accidental trauma.

[@shaunasmith]

23:50 The way it’s like she didn’t like them having any sort of fun or happiness unless she was in control of it. All of the kids giggling about a little prank was so adorable before she had to kill the joy with her “punishment”. It’s weird

[@scrumpcity]

literally and it was so harmless. no one was hurt in the process it was just a goof between siblings, and it even seemed like the little brother thought it was funny when all was said and done. me and my brothers used to do stuff like that to each other all the time.

[@taylorhatch3804]

One of the officers she thanked, Nick Hallman, is my dad!! One of the arresting officers. He struggles immensely with the things he sees at work daily, and I’m beyond grateful that he’s out there making a difference.

[@Velvettyy_]

while I’m glad your dad is a police officer, it’s strange for her to thank everybody who was just doing their job before being sent away to prison as if she’s accepting an oscar- instead of her thanking, idk, her own daughter for looking after her own siblings.

[@ryancasey919]

When she said “it is my preference I go to prison.”, it was giving “you can’t fire me! I quit!”

[@sallydavis1391]

Pity in her "acceptance speech " she didn't thank the neighbour who cared for her son after he bravely escaped for the second time, but this time he was rescued and not punished.

[@beccabutt]

ur dad a 🐷😭😭😭

[@taylorhatch3804]

@@Velvettyy_ Oh I 100% agree. Especially with her jail calls being released now, seems like she did it just for the spotlight.

[@cierra3584]

PLEASE BRING BACK SOCIAL AND CONSPIRACIES PLEASE 🙏🙏THEYRE MY FAVS

[@Justbored_37]

Yes! I loved her conspiracy videos!

[@NylaaMadeEm]

Sameee

[@charlottez4413]

YESSS THEY ARE SO GOOD!!!

[@cierra3584]

@aarongrajeda1563 100% agree, love her true crime stuff too, I just love the supernatural and mystery side of conspiracies lol

[@charlottez4413]

@aarongrajeda1563 yess i love the true crime too!

[@stacylynn95]

I honestly hope the kids are doing better and healing. She’s such an evil woman and I’m glad she’s in jail

[@Ausgar-yc1yl]

She was not sentenced to jail. There is no such thing as being sentenced to jail for years.

[@lempikka]

@@Ausgar-yc1ylok man, prison, damn. picking things apart for no reasonnn. annoyinggggg

[@Ausgar-yc1yl]

@@lempikka They are very different things. I guess you think education is annoying. Bet you failed in school.

[@lempikka]

@@Ausgar-yc1yl aw. i feel bad for you… such a bitter person. hope you get better soon

[@dreadwolfrising]

​@@lempikka considering all their comments on this channel are correcting people's grammar and semantics, I think you hit the nail on the head

[@franksasstattoo]

1:05:22 INSERT POLICE BODYCAM FOOTAGE 🗣🚓

[@jamiebakers]

LMAOOO

[@sleepwalkerII]

Was looking for this comment LMAOOO

[@mjjacobo3014]

And putting the same exact clip in twice! Her videos are def unique..

[@ashytrashy5692]

@@mjjacobo3014alrrr don’t be meannn she’s great

[@zandikhetwayo7444]

@@ashytrashy5692We’re not being mean, it’s just that the mistakes are common and funny😭😭

[@sam_8493]

I saw a channel find a vlog where ruby implied she didn't even want the last 2 kids. That she only wanted 4 kids and had the other 2 because her husband wanted 6 which leads me to believe that this contributed to her treatment of them recently

[@blc28x]

I agree, and married at 18 in college after raising her own family and then 6 kids?! Certainly no excuse for her behavior…but it does explain A LOT! she probably views herself and a superior parent to her own, and thats a skewed perspective, better isn’t necessarily all the way better. It’s part of what makes Ruby to me

[@Velvettyy_]

you know what? that actually makes a lot of sense as to why she treats Russell and Eve the worst. I also think I know what video you’re talking about too bc I vaguely remember seeing that.

[@CuntillaDeville]

I knew I had watched something like that a while back!

[@emiliap8790]

A man pressuring his already 'traditional' sahm into having more children is literally evil

[@emilynarb3749]

I just hope the kids overcome that trauma & are around loving people now! Thanks Hailey Elizabeth

[@justindenney-hall5875]

@emilynarb3749 "Because you're alive everything is possible." Thich Nhat Hahn R.I.P. (1926-2022)☸

[@campronica]

Shari and Chad definitely are! I would assume so are the rest of the kids are, but haven't seen any confirmation

[@KingOfGaymes]

This case really shows the evils of the Mormon cult and family vloggers who exploit their kids.. Ruby and Jodi are monsters

[@kageokami35]

People just don't want to admit that mainstream religions are, in fact, cults. I'll point anyone who disagrees to the BITE model

[@adventurewithandi4409]

Mormon cult?.. 😭 what?

[@kageokami35]

@@adventurewithandi4409 Yes, Mormonism is a cult. If you find that hard to believe then you've been living under a rock

[@hellokittie2613]

⁠@@adventurewithandi4409it’s Mormon lore

[@izz5827]

@@adventurewithandi4409ts is definitely a cult😭

[@missdiorfairy]

I feel physically ill after hearing what she did to them. I can't even imagine the amount of therapy those kids have to go through. I want to cry.

[@sarahzwann9123]

The fact that they couldn’t find Eve for 30 minutes after the nail polish incident means that she was hiding because that girl was TERRIFIED of what her mom would do 😢

[@Zie731]

Not just that but when the older sister was trying to talk her down and get her to look at the bright side so she wouldn't punish her so harshly, those poor kids

[@mariatourino9545]

@@Zie731 I talk from experience here, when your parent gets that mad about petty things like that it's like the first survival skill you learn, that and trying to decipher if somebody is mad by how their feet are hitting the floor, and unfortunately it's not a thing that you can shake off. I hope the kids will do well and stay together in a loving home because I don't want to think about how they would feel if they see themselves alone in a new enviroment.

[@natii10]

Omg, I found your channel through the first 8 passengers video you made 3 years ago! I am completely against family vlogging channels, posting kids on social media should be illegal. I feel so bad for Ruby’s kids, no child deserves to go through what they did. And I’m glad that woman is in prison now, she is CRAZY.

[@shewho333]

In every state (I think) in the United States, one of the criteria that CPS looks at is; Does the child have a bed? They can choose to take your kid away if he doesn’t have his own bed. There’s no professional therapist who would advise to take a child’s bed away unless they’re trying to get the people in trouble with children’s services. Or if it’s the EVIL Jodi Hildebrandt.

[@tomuchcamoflauge]

yeah the thing is they probably had a bed for him he just didn't get to sleep there so when cps came to look they didn't find anything 'wrong'

[@itscoldinhere6931]

hailey mispronouncing words you will always be famous to me

[@blc28x]

It’s one of those sweet things about listening to her that i like ❤

[@itscoldinhere6931]

@@blc28x literally my favorite especially since i passively listen to most videos. i always think it’s funny when im in the middle of doing something and i have to stop and be like “did she just say that??”

[@iamimana]

“defamination”

[@blc28x]

@@itscoldinhere6931 it gives “signature style” ✨ 😂 💕

[@yarioi]

“Supposebly” 😭❤️

[@justindenney-hall5875]

"Were you talking to a professional that you found in an alley on a random Tuesday?!" God, I love Hailey's sense of humor🤣

[@nadyanathania3847]

considering who they go to for "advice" that would've been a better thing

[@justindenney-hall5875]

@@nadyanathania3847 I would rather take advice from General M. Bison on a random Tuesday than Jodi Hildebrandt any day!🤣

[@chrissy_athumum]

Sherry trying to calm down Ruby during the nail polish spilling shows just how traumatized she is. She sounded so mature, almost like she was trying to calm Ruby down so her sister would get a lighter punishment.

[@VKO27]

Apparently chad actually gained weight at the camp , likely due to not being fed enough at home, also I thought he was older than 12 when they sent him ?

[@Velvettyy_]

he was around 14 or so when he was sent away, not 12

[@bingjenn]

He was not 12. That’s wrong information.

[@Jfam11638]

Apparently the whole thing where Ruby accused her 12 year old son of sexual abuse might have been something spurred on by Jodi - or so Jodi’s niece believes. Jodi’s niece was abused in a VERY similar way by Jodi, and Jodi went on to tell everyone they knew that her niece was an angry teenager and a sex addict, so the niece’s accusations against Jodi weren’t taken very seriously because Jodi had already poisoned the well against them so much. But this was a very familiar tactic to them already. I think Jodi’s manipulation ran deep, but even so, Ruby isn’t blameless. I hope they both rot.

[@Anna-Rose-]

For non-native English speakers who are learning (and anyone else who wants to know): 43:22 It's not sieze and assist, it's "cease and desist" 43:30 "defamation" is pronounced: de-fə-ˈmā-shən This post isn't meant to be unkind, it's just to clarify.

[@_MORGANIME_]

Thank you

[@simplysafiyah]

The most annoying thing is is that even though she’s gonna have jail time, and she had to pay for legal fees. She probably still gets to keep probably thousands of dollars that she made from profiting off of exploiting her children and they probably won’t see a cent of that money.

[@sydneypeck2488]

Her kids could actually sue her for essentially their share of the money that she made from making videos about them. They could also sue for all of the abuse that she put them through. Her kids could completely bankrupt her if they wanted to.

[@jayannakelley9051]

She had cashed in all the money put back at the bank. $87,000.00 put in a bag that she was going to hand over to Jody. They were planning on buying land in Arizona & moving. Those two youngest children would have been found dead somewhere. The injuries R had along his ankles & wrists were horrendous. Ruby kept a journal of what she did to her children. It was sickening!!

[@BriarBeeBenson]

Millions. It’s millions she got off of abusing them! *Millions* of money that is not hers and she has precisely fuck all right to keep! It makes me fucking seethe

[@Baby.Annihilation]

"Cease and assist" 😂 I love you girl! ❤

[@kaythekutie]

And defamation lol 😅

[@rooroo1704]

What's the correct phrasing of it then? Not from The States , and English is not my first language, and didn't get what that is, except that it's some kind of legal threat obviously.

[@sarahm585]

@@rooroo1704desist

[@lacidolmar311]

@@rooroo1704cease and desist

[@beeepbooopp]

@@rooroo1704"cease and desist" is the correct phrasing, it's basically a legal warning to stop whatever you're doing 😅

[@Velvettyy_]

ily but sis u got a lot of info wrong this time around 🫠 they had 6 children, not five. Abby is older than Julie by 2 years Chad wasn’t 12 when he was sent away to that wilderness camp, he was around 14-15 years old. Abby and Julie were not at Jodi’s house when they were found, they were with Ruby’s friends m cleaning their house (and that’s where they would go most of the time) Eve & Russell werent playing with Ruby’s nail polish, it was just Eve who made the mess then hid and she apologized. She was only given chores to do because Ruby said that’s what she can do to help pay for a new rug she messed up. She was sent to bed early, didn’t get dessert that day, didn’t play a family game and she didn’t have her nails painted for a month (that’s a lot of consequences lol) Jodi wasn’t a porn addict therapist, one of Jodi’s manipulation tactics was that she convinced ppl (mainly men and boys) that they were addicted to porn and basically everything under the sun which is why she said ppl were living “in distortion” bc everyone was addicted to something. Ruby’s parents weren’t abusive, Jodi’s parents were. Ruby acted like a third parent because she was the oldest and she pretty much bossed her younger siblings around. Ruby & her mom were close growing up.

[@zandikhetwayo7444]

I was so surprised when she showed clips of “12 year old Chad” and it was a grown ass teen😭😭

[@Velvettyy_]

@@zandikhetwayo7444 ikr LMFAO

[@talveerlitt9464]

yeah idk if it’s responsible to make a video on this kinda topic and not have accurate/face checked information; feel as thot there should’ve been more care put into this

[@bingjenn]

It’s hard to take anything else seriously when something like his age is so misconstrued. If one big thing is wrong, can I believe any of it?

[@hannahfaithshyer]

@@bingjennnot to mention constantly saying their last name wrong. If you watched any of the court or news footage you’d hear how it was said

[@Jasethejuicebox]

These poor babies, I just want to hug them all and tell them that it’s not their fault, they’re not bad kids :c

[@jessihambrick6544]

FYI: the younger two children were NOT found with the older two.

[@kat8canary77]

After the information release yesterday, I am concerned about JF. She was living in the home in Ivins with Jodi, Ruby and EF and RF. She had to have seen the treatment her siblings were getting. AF seems to have been working and living near Springville. Alone? With whom was AF living?

[@dreadwolfrising]

"Mistakes shouldn't recieve punishment. Mistakes should recieve reflection and a chance at redemption" 👏👏👏

[@itdontmattah]

@hailey Elizabeth I believe several of the facts you present in this case are incorrect. Only the youngest boy (Russell) and girl (eve) were at Jodie Hildebrant’s house. The middle girls were at Pam Botchner (also worked at Connexion) house. I also believe Chad was older than 12. You might have been thinking about Russell who was 12 at the time of the events in this case.

[@fifs7400]

where was sharri

[@itdontmattah]

@@fifs7400 Sherri was in college, living in campus housing and estranged from her parents at the time of these events

[@ginasica3130]

Yes you’re right. I was about to say that. The middle 2 were living at their family house on their own for the most part. I have a source where they get all information from a person close to the case and what you said is right. Not sure where she got her info from.

[@tatumcaldwell14]

21:59 the wilderness camp reminds me of the program on netflix right now. breaks my heart for chad and knowing what he could have gone through

[@moshiachgirlie]

Your mind sis I love how miss thing just makes up new words like "defamination" truly no tea no shade

[@alisap3780]

Defamation is a word im confused

[@moshiachgirlie]

@@alisap3780 she said defam-IN-ation

[@jaydesmith5925]

I would absolutely love and appreciate it if you covered the case of my moms childhood friend Michelle Gandy. Her killer is constantly being defended and its absolutely sickening i would love for more people to hear about this and know what that man did to her and her baby.

[@scarfver]

girl we need a room tour it always looks so cute

[@HostileSoldier]

Just another typical day in Utah, I am so thankful she got caught, you would be surprised how many parents had brainwashed their kids around here.

[@mindfullyhere]

That old 8P video is how I found your channel! Crazy how I’m still here

[@AG-ys6yy]

I feel like the only family channel that wasn’t bad that was Bratayley, maybe I’m biased because that was my childhood 😭that was the only family channel that I liked as a kid, and look at Jules and Hayley now, they’re thriving

[@cqntralls]

17:39 I know it's kind of weird that I know this, but no, 8 Passengers didn't reach 300,000 subscribers in 2019. They hit 1 million subscribers on September 1, 2017. They were in the millions by the time 2019 rolled around.

[@quinnzel316]

please yes i love you discussing social controversies as well as true crime

[@justemmalyn7934]

The story about that little baby's femur especially enraged and confused me. My little cousin is two years old. She fractured her femur a few months ago when a shopping cart fell with her and her twin sister in it (very brave and all better now!) Even though it was a crazy accident, the nurses were required to have CPS visit the house and make sure my cousins were safe. Why that didn't happen in the Frankes' case is beyond me

[@paulinas.m98]

OMG I WAS HOPING YOU COME BACK TO THE 8 PASSENGERS 🙏

[@justdawnreborn]

Yesss me too!

[@dysphoric_god7737]

i've always felt so much sympathy for chad specifically bc he seemed like such a good brother and prankster n person to b around but then was treated like that

[@suzimonkey345]

When our son was 12 he went on a school trip. From England to France. Staying overnight for 2 nights. He had a WONDERFUL time…I didn’t sleep until he was home! ❤ How can any parents send their 12 year old away to be punished for 10 WEEKS?!!? Without contact with his family!!! 😳🤯

[@grachisol8236]

Chad was around 15 when that happened,not 12.

[@brookeklinger5876]

The two middle girls are actually over the age of 12, they're teens. They were actually found at a different location with someone who had worked for Jodie. Sherri had the two middle girls but I believe they are not with her now. She and her two sisters (and I think a social worker as well) had gone to the house to grab some things for the two girls. Their dad wanted to press charges against Sherri, his own daughter, for stealing and damages. Through the police Sherri gave her dad back the items that he wanted. There were no damages caused by Sherri, but the house apparently had some water issues. And their dad hadn't been in the house for over a year. But he still wanted to press charges against Sherri.

[@silkysam9640]

First of all…that rug was gross, the nail polish did not do damage 😂

[@unaestheticzaria9757]

i love how confident you are when you say words wrong 😂

[@tower78]

I’m genuinely BEGGING!!!! I need you to start a podcast so i don’t have to have youtube open at work 😭😭

[@mackenzieblack6332]

she has a podcast on spotify

[@keciathompson989]

It’s called Behind You on Apple Podcasts

[@Alexaundria]

if you need to watch videos without KZbin just copy and paste the KZbin link, put it in the app musi and just press play, I use it so I can make the videos I watch pod cast like… so I can go to sleep and listen to the video without the yt app open

[@brolv]

Havent even finished the video, but I know its a banger

[@FrozenPines]

I’ve never watched or been interested in seeing family vlogs, I pretty much agreed with everything you said, especially the “why do I want to watch your toddler staring at me through the screen on the thumbnail?” I rarely get such recommendations from KZbin about family vlogs but when I do, its an instant block, stop exploiting your children, parents, share them with your loved ones instead, not strangers and potential creeps on the internet 🙄

[@alyssahernandez1055]

I had never heard of the franke family until i saw your original video then this case blew up and here you are covering it again. Craziness. Hope those kids heal.

[@BEEDRILL303]

The one thing I find so annoying about Chad getting sent off is that they refused to say why he was sent off, they show everything about their kids but suddenly they wanna keep this one thing a secret? He prob did nothing and they just wanted him out of their hair for a few months. Also the fact that the husband isn't also being charged with abuse/neglect is so annoying b/c at the very least he let her abuse their kids and he abandoned them with their abusive mother. " insert police body cam footage " * doesn't. *

[@justindenney-hall5875]

I heard a theory that Jodi Hildebrandt is actually a predatory lesbian who hates men, which is why she would brain wash her clients into separating from their husbands, and also some have said they believe Ruby Franke is a severely repressed lesbian and the reason for being abusive to her children was a unconscious way of lashing out at the fact that she felt forced to repress who she really is sexually and live as a "traditional" family woman, and to be honest I could definitely see that being the case especially with Jodi because of how she treated her niece who now is an open lesbian and was in her custody as a teenager and was severely abused during that time including slut shaming which I think was Jodi punishing her for what she hated about herself.

[@clementine8853]

I HAVE BEEN THINKING THIS TOO! Especially with the amount of shame that goes into engraining same sex attraction within these religious communities, I do NOT doubt this theory at ALL. I 100% believe it

[@jasminegonzalez6197]

i came in a little late to their channel like 2021-22 ish and when i first saw jodi and ruby i thought they were dating....

[@samanthahunter1759]

I totally agree with this assessment of Jodi. I'm not so sure about Ruby I think she's a classic narcissist but who knows

[@Velvettyy_]

In Jodi’s book, she said that she was repeatedly sexually assaulted by a 15 year old boy (when she was ages 3-5 years old) and she buried all of her trauma inside because her parents were emotionally unavailable and basically told her and her siblings to “get on with it.” So I believe that’s probably why she dislikes men/boys too and that’s probably why she victim blames people from rape & sexual assault, because she probably thought it was her fault for being molested as a 3 year old and that’s probably why she always says that boys & men are addicted to porn. I also believe that Jodi & Ruby are closeted lesbians too- the chemistry they had was just too strong when you see pictures and videos of them together. It leaves me to believe that Jodi’s beliefs and teachings were just all of her insecurities and her self projection she was passing onto her clients.

[@justindenney-hall5875]

@@Velvettyy_ I hadn't heard about that, so tragic no wonder she's so disturbed.

[@zara658]

“Got married 2 weeks after meeting at 18.” Great start, great fucking start…

[@JakeVonScott]

43:30 “defamination” “cease and assist” Haily never change, you mean DEFAMATION and cease and DESIST guuurl 😂😂

[@basilfleur]

as someone who grew up the same way as these children, id just like to say, whatever theyre parents are doing, is NOT helping. i absolutely hate my parents. i moved out at 15 because i couldnt take it anymore. the system never did anything to help. at the time, my parents didnt know a lot about social media, but im sure if they did, they wouldve uploaded everything they did on youtube. i am so thankful they didnt. im in intense therapy due to all the mental damage my parents have inflicted on me. i feel terrible for these kids, i hope they get help

[@cristiancampos6358]

It’s just crazy because I lived in a house exactly like rubies and I’m glad I escaped. I’m more happy that people are defending her children

[@superheroemily]

Please keep doing videos on social media/youtube topics like this!! Love true crime but there is sooo much of that - you bring such a fresh vibe to utube drama/stories that other channels lack!

[@zombk3z]

I love listening to your videos when I'm doing anything. I'm cleaning and this is my entertainment 😌

[@_cherry7up]

omg you’re so close to 1 million, I remember being here since like 200k :,)

[@fadedpolaroid]

YES YES YES YES I WAS LITERALLY ASKING FOR THIS A FEW VIDEOS AGO LOVE YOU HAILEY

[@americazurita9046]

There should be a law about not letting family have blogs and exploiting their kids like this.

[@xritt2590]

poor sheri trying to talk her down AGH i cannot imagine what these babies went through 😭

[@tendingourgarden]

I'm from the early days of this clannel and don't comment much, but thank you for putting together this video. This was great coverage, and very necessary. It's such a unique and important case for youtube and everyone involved. You explained and analyzed it well and addressed many areas I wanted to know more about that other content creators have not filled in, so thank you. This is a terrible, complex, and very important case--very important in terms of childrrn's rights, the structure of a healthy family/childhood, the right to privacy and the need for genuine mirroring without a screen or audience. Thanks for your time and coverage of this, great video.

[@blc28x]

Abuse is generational. There are many sad micro-stories within this one large one. My heart is with all of the people out there trying to be better. ❤ PS: i feel so stupid bc i never THOUGHT enough about the fact that a plea agreements means the full truth does not come out in criminal cases. Learn and realize and process new things everyday!!! PSS: I hope Sheri is able to find a safe place for her and her siblings, as she is also so young to have to pick up after abusive parents, just like her mother did. Sorry so long a post ive been super passionate about family vlogs and child abuse for YEARS after what i went through myself. I just wanna contribute to conversations about this subject in a meaningful way.

[@sydneypeck2488]

Honestly, the full truth usually doesn't come out in trials anyways. Before the trial starts, both the prosecution and defense try to submit the evidence that is favorable to their case while preventing the evidence that isn't favorable to their case from being submitted. So, ultimately both of them get some wins and prevent the other from presenting some of the evidence. That being said, the public does get a lot more information from trials than they have without one.

[@kutielkalupto6818]

Man, I hate family influencers or any influencers that have kids as part of their brand. Influencers come into my place of work, I remember this one family whose dad kept nagging his young son because he didn't like how he was turning out in pictures, complaining if he moved or blinked and having to retake them. Kids shouldn't have that kind of preassure.

[@MalMagLog]

Although it is so horrible how public she made her kids’ whole childhoods and private moments - i am happy that it led to her being arrested and convicted. So many kids don’t get that justice for their abusive parents.

[@greathoonta3461]

That thing you said about how mistakes shouldn’t be punished hits me home so hard. I am such a perfectionist it’s hinders me often and it all goes back to being punished for honest mistakes. I cannot imagine how these kids are going to, and have been affected by that parenting considering how far beyond any norm it is.

[@Faizan_Khan40]

I am glad she’s in jail

[@Ausgar-yc1yl]

She was not sentenced to jail. There is no such thing as being sentenced to jail for years.

[@craftducky]

@@Ausgar-yc1ylYeah Hailey often mixes up the words jail and prison. But hopefully most of us know that if a sentence is more than a year, it’s prison

[@Ausgar-yc1yl]

@@craftducky OH, OK

[@smithandsuperdeadeyeofthew823]

​@Ausgar-yc1yl Dude she was sentenced to 30 years in prison what are you talking about

[@racheldaze7696]

Hey girl, just wanted to tell you how much i look forward to your videos. They honestly calm me down and just quiet my brain at the end of the day no matter whats going on. Thank you ❤

[@shewho333]

I think maybe Chad actually could have appreciated the wilderness camp compared to the abuse he got at home. My mom used to threaten me with all kinds of horrors she was going to send me to, and often they sounded a hell of a lot better than what I was dealing with at home. One time I BEGGED her to PLEASE send me off to whatever program she had in mind because I knew nothing organized could be a sadistic as what she did to me. She never threatened me with that stuff again. She knew I figured her out.

[@zandikhetwayo7444]

My mom once threatened to admit me to a hospital and honestly that sounded like a dream

[@connorp11067]

I never watched 8 passengers so never knew Chad was only 12 when he got sent to that camp I genuinely thought he was like 16 or something! It’s never right to send children to those places no matter their age but come on, no 12 year old should be behaving like an adult yet!! I find it really hypocritical that Ruby says her parents were abusive and made her grow up too fast then she goes and does that to a 12 year old.

[@Alexaundria]

He was like 14

[@rhoda3704]

Love your outfit changes with each chapter of the video- sweet and fun addition!! 👚🧥🧣

[@AJtheSiren]

I feel need to note here (I'm 5 mins in) that not only did Ruby tell her young daughter about a family friend passing away, but she told her daughter that it was Self-Inflicted death (she used the actual word) and then proceeded to ask her daughter if she new what that meant and fake cried in front of her as she explained to her YOUNG CHILD what taking your own life is. Like a child that old has no concept of not wanting to exist anymore like some adults experience, so it's incredibly gross to purposefully break that perception of reality just for content. Sick. Disgusting.

[@anniemoore8599]

listening to this while writing my thesis has been an interesting experience...

[@s1lverpr1nce]

😭😭took me 40 minutes to realize she was changing outfits

[@AaronNickolas7]

“You’re going to loose the privilege to eat dinner”… since when are basic life necessities a “privilege”???

[@janellcrews6108]

My mom did that to my sister and I for days, I was so lucky to have my grandparents and great-grandmother. They came and brought snacks they wouldn't leave till we ate them because my mom would have eaten them with her boyfriends.

[@AaronNickolas7]

@@janellcrews6108 I don’t think depriving children of a meal became a form of child abuse until recently. Like, within the last 10 or so years. Because my parents used to send me to bed without dinner if I didn’t eat what they made… it wasn’t over the course of multiple days, but it DID happen.

[@gabrielaelaine07]

i feel like a video on the troubled teen industry would be so good i’d love to hear your take 😗😗

[@aimidej9926]

I believe Sherri also took some of the kids passports so they couldn’t take them anywhere.

[@Rose-dd2wp]

Just a psa not all 4 kids were in that house the two older girls were sent by their mother to a “family friends” house for “safe” keeping. Because Ruby was worried exactly what happened would happen. They were forced to be like maids to this family. The two youngest were forced to go through that brutality alone, No older siblings. That little boy is a hero for himself and for his sister.

[@loser9216]

Omg I love watching you do videos on KZbinrs and Social Media. If you do continue with these videos you should do one with the Ace family and how they got divorced and how he acting on Snapchat.

[@giadalopez8170]

“that’s okay you never come” that’s so sad and heartbreaking and then she straight up lies and says she does go to his games

[@abbytheaussie]

Hailey, you did so great on this video, I love your deep dives into internet stuff like this!! I just want to let you know it’s pronounced “Cease and De-sist” because you’re asking someone to cease/desist/stop doing the activity.

[@rooroo1704]

At this point, we really REALLY need to discuss the probability that English might not be Hailey's first language after all 😂🤷‍♀️

[@paolafrias]

Oh girl 😂

[@zandikhetwayo7444]

Cmon😭😭

[@kiera4277]

please bring back the social media star/celebrity videos! i love the true crime but i LOVEEE the social media content as well. i would also love to see early 2000’s videos like about the bling ring, paris hilton, lohan, kim k, etc, i think it would be super interesting!!

[@notsoradnat5222]

you literally did an amazing job, from start to finish. I’ve watched pretty much every video that has to do with this case and this is definitely the most informative and well put together 🩷

[@amberraynepeltier9386]

Great video and wonderful job delivering this with grace! Also must say that you are serving us straight up glamour in the cheetah print halter sis. SERVING.