Reviving the 670cc Black Widow

[@draggonhedd]

I love how the most powerful kart has the worst tires, no brakes, and a broken steering wheel.

[@noahwilliams27w46]

It has brakes

[@jackmehoff2363]

Cause all the work time and money went into the motor.

[@evanverret3150]

+Jack Mehoff that's the definition of a bad time lol

[@grahamstedfast9531]

That's why it's called the black widow lol

[@Bull_10RR]

the most powerfull kart has a yamaha R1 engine... look it up on youtube

[@SouthernMechanic]

the solenoid on the bowl is to immediately stop the fuel from going into the intake during engine shut down to help prevent back fires in the exhaust, thats why some older engines backfired once you turned the ignition off is because the momentum of the engine spinning is still drawing gas through the carb and pumping the gas vapors into the hot exhaust where it ignites and causes a backfire

[@davidmorgan1872]

a backfire is just a symptom of the engine being lean (temporary or long term), so yes you are right, but you way overthought it lol

[@SouthernMechanic]

@@davidmorgan1872 Google anti backfire solenoid

[@IchibanMoto]

anything with a wheelie bar passes the badass test

[@Perrmeowww]

Ichiban Moto why are u always say "BaddAss"!?

[@Pisces8Gemini]

It doesn't have to have a wheelie bar that doesn't matter it matters if the wheelie bar has a functional use. Then it's BaDAsS.

[@censorshipisforcowardsYT]

So a stock civic with a wheelie bar is badass?

[@band1986]

I am an amateur RC Builder, and now thanks to you guys I am moving up to go karts. thanks for the inspiration!

[@the_burchfield1655]

twin turbo 670cc thoughts?

[@Iannuendo2112]

Hell no

[@sethsengines212]

Hell yes that would be badass with a stage 4 and twin turbo

[@bartnieuwendijk1024]

Carburators and turbo’s don’t mix

[@GHOSTRACING-b5j]

Yes

[@hahahoodgoboom4778]

Thats not possible all though you can supercharge it with a hair dryer or something but I dont recommend it

[@oscarzt1652]

7:11 "there's a plunger that's supposed to plunge, and it's not plunging" ~Ike, July 2016.

[@brettc6730]

maybe you guys could extend the frame a couple of inches cause you look pretty uncomfortable riding it lol

[@jivjav100]

will handle worse, then will need a larger wheel base, mad work

[@CarsandCameras]

We already added around 3 inches to the length to fit the engine. We don't want to lengthen it any more because it will weaken the frame.

[@PHILLY214]

needs to be wider

[@BullyDawg84]

+CarsandCameras You could just extend the front, keep the same wheel base, just adding leg room..

[@evanverret3150]

+Jivjav Mik notice the wheelie bar, it's not really a canyon carver

[@ianlounsbury9256]

Really no need to replace the solenoid in my experience. The biggest reason for the fuel cutoff is to prevent an after-fire when you turn off the ignition at WOT. If you let it idle 15-30 seconds before shutting it down you don't have to worry about it.(or don't worry about it and enjoy watching the neighbors jump)

[@topherblais13gaming]

awd go kart or turbo diesel go kart or one with a bike engine or a awd go kart with bike engine

[@iloverock6556]

TURBO DIESEL?? IF THEY COULD PULL THAT OFF THAT WOULD BE COOL!!

[@topherblais13gaming]

yeah i have saw some 200 ish cc or more diesel so turbo a diesel is easy

[@topherblais13gaming]

try to contact them via youtube or other because i want to see that and it's from what bike ?

[@ParkerBarandon]

+The Rooster THERE IS NO NEED TO YELL!

[@iloverock6556]

Parker Barandon LOL

[@jameschapman3791]

10:25 did anyone else see that cat freeze?

[@cravenkris191]

Yeah

[@backyardhunter8462]

James Chapman when the light shut off the cat was like tf is that.

[@Ethan007Hacks]

it was before the light man it was weird

[@kayzrx8]

matrix glitch

[@Alex-cu6uw]

I got scared by the light

[@36thgallardo]

Bypassing safety devices to hear it run tonight. #justIkethings

[@ollieollieoxenfree2937]

10:32 The look on Ike's face clearly states that it will never be replaced.

[@09ICCE200]

The solenoid is not a safety device

[@wjmike2200]

+tread113 it's like an automatic fuel cut off. The other predators have a lever

[@09ICCE200]

Also not true. It just prevents backfiring once spark is cut off. When spark is cut off the engine is still rotating and pulling fuel, this unburnt fuel is pumped into the exhaust and can explode the stock muffler. That is all the solenoid does.

[@vicsmotos3702]

I'd love to see a 670 on a mini bike frame, but extend the forks for a chopper feel and make a mini drag bike

[@maykevin5]

the solenoid is there to cut fuel to prevent dieseling when hot and shut off

[@tylerschwartz4327]

+1

[@TheKurtTribute]

Correct. I always remove it when I get a new motor/lawn mower, just so down the line if it doesn't run it eliminates on possibility

[@MrTheHillfolk]

Pull it out of the bowl, cut the tip off that damn thing, reinstall. and install a manual fuel shut off valve if you are worried about flooding when not in operation.

[@TheKurtTribute]

+MrTheHillfolk that's what I do. However if your carburetor is working properly it shouldn't flood. I use. Shut off so that the gas doesn't varnish in the bowl

[@MrTheHillfolk]

+TheKurtTribute yea ill run it a little after turning the valve off too,usually. Should is the key word, I never trust "should",I been doin it too long and the "gettin lucky" times are thinning out. It's a good idea to have a shutoff anyways , if you transport it because float bounce can allow flooding during the journey.

[@redmike7911]

The carb solenoid is to stop the float and bowl from overfilling. It also prevents back firing when shutting down since its a positive fuel shutoff. It is common on all newer large 4 stroke, lawn mowers, snow blower engines ETC.

[@EvilClowns69]

Id love to see that 670 on the off road go kart

[@jones0662]

same

[@scottandamandaflores6571]

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[@brycealexander1178]

If predator ever makes a larger displacement engine it would be awesome to see a build with it. Maybe one day😏

[@DRAINTVofficial]

Thank you for the shout out at 3:56 I love you guys

[@dream2sea]

lol

[@Richez1]

lol

[@NotQuiteMelvin]

lol

[@CarsandCameras]

Hahahaha

[@DRAINTVofficial]

CarsandCameras I can't believe you replied.

[@chrissimpson3999]

The "solenoid" is an anti-backfire switch. When I worked at a small engine shop, we would just snip the plunged off with wire cutters and it worked fine!

[@rex4x4]

Needs a transmission 🤗

[@SilentGamer-jt8dl]

Would be crazy fast then xD

[@rex4x4]

+KrayzieDude helllll yeahhhhhh

[@minorpyro69]

It already has a Constant Variable Transmission. Would sound cooler though.

[@rex4x4]

+Speedy_ 212_ well aware of that ..... But a transmission from a lawn tractor would be so cool with all the different speed options

[@ExtraFungus]

+Rex4x4 easier said than done. Most mowers have a transaxle and the clutch is a vbelt syetem between the engine and transaxle.

[@bryanteel3046]

When that thing pulls up on a wheelie , I smile. I love your videos so much!!!!!

[@DataDawg59369]

I'm a big fan of your channel and have been watchin for a few years. Coming back to this video after watching more of this months vids, well all I can say is that you look better now that you've gone through puberty. lol

[@coleswolemma]

DataDawg59369 that ain’t no damn lie lol

[@lloydprunier4415]

Glad to see some people still do these things.

[@nitromatt37gaming52]

put a single or v-twin diesel lawn mower engine on the red offroad go kart, i have a v-twin diesel on my offroad go kart with which has 25 HP and 50 pound feet of torque with the governor removed it tops out over 50 mph!

[@xz123rc5]

Cars and cameras is the best I look forward to watching u every week

[@credigy5889]

You guys should put the 670 on the red off road go kart that you got

[@jandnstuntsandstudios2015]

I think the frame in the back where the engine sits is to small. Good idea though

[@devilicous]

"it'll be fine"

[@DexDexD3x]

For a future project or something, y'all should definitely do some sort of homemade Goped-like thing with a weed-wacker engine or anything like that laying around (especially if you can fabricatean expansion chamber pipe for it, just to make it more dangerous AND fun!)

[@DustyShedGarage]

Man I really enjoy this channel, congrats on 200 k too guys, really well deserved,, is there such thing as a supercharger for go karts? If so, drop one on this kart to make it super duper fast

[@CarsandCameras]

Thanks. A few people have supercharged go kart engines, but its pretty complicated and results in a small (if any) power gain.

[@DustyShedGarage]

+CarsandCameras your welcome, and ah so it's not really worth it then, was worth a mention though 😊

[@nitromatt37gaming52]

You guys should start putting fuel additives in all your go-karts so the fuel wont go stale, or gunk up i use it on my go karts and i had one sit for almost a year with gas that had ethanol in it and when i went to start it it fired right up.

[@EVILFRANCHISE3]

That's an awesome shot when Ike is working on the carb

[@GradyRho92]

Put a 670 in the off-road gokart.

[@Maxumized]

Those wheelies are the best. Now you made me plan my new toy.

[@drodgar8493]

so whats the story on the z32 on the rack?

[@MrChico809]

guys I have to say that I knew it, ran into this issue all the time at a golf course I worked at...great job on the "it'll be fine" fix!

[@freqvent]

I believe that I've said this before but what's you're opinion on a twin turbo V-twin? I know you guys have tons of projects and real life stuff but it might be a worlds first! I know that you're boosting the 420cc with one cylinder so wouldn't you be able to do twins on a V-twin? Just an idea I've been thinking about, cool video though keep it up!

[@freqvent]

Your*

[@CarsandCameras]

It's an awesome idea that we've thought about, but ultimately it would be way too expensive. Two turbos, an EFI kit (modified to fit a V twin/twin turbo setup), and the V twin would be at least $2,000 before the go kart it would go in.

[@wildcronicskater]

dont you guys make money from youtube?

[@thehollowmonkey1795]

+Josh Noutch not tens and tens and tens of thousands man like come on stop hating

[@evanverret3150]

+CarsandCameras with a 200K+ sub channel and merch shouldn't you guys be making more then enough money to afford it? The secret to KZbin is put money in to get more money out

[@dave1135]

hey, ike, I've worked on small engines for thirty years, and have my own business. what that solenoid is supposed to do is cut fuel flow to the engine when the ignition is turned off, preventing raw fuel going through the cylinder and valves to the hot exhaust causing a backfire as the engine winds down when turned off. I'm sure you've had a riding mower make a big "bang" when you shut it off after mowing. this is to prevent that. but half the time, it will still backfire.

[@ExtraFungus]

Again! I can make you dual carb intakes!

[@hypno3898]

then do it and send it to them

[@ExtraFungus]

+Hypno Erhart without having the carbs and knowing the angles of the flanges, that isn't happening.

[@redneckbryon]

You guys kind of got it right on what that solenoid is, it's actually called a back fire prevention solenoid its job is to prevent unburned fuel from getting into the exhaust, most mower racers remove them, you don't really need to put it back unless your finding that the engine is flooded. One of the new trends in Mower Racing is putting Mikuni carburetors on lawn tractor engines they actual perform extremely well, something else you should consider doing.

[@0909-p1v]

"Ethanol Free Gas" Biggest scam ever. 10% Ethanol is a federal law, which means when it makes its way to the gas station, it already has 10% Ethanol. Ethanol isnt the issue though, its the Acetone,Butane,Heptane,Methanol,Benzen,Naptha Etc. All of these much more corrosive than ethanol and they need to be, to thin out the garbage oil used in gas today. Once these alcohols (38-55% in total) evaporate, the poor quality oil is left behind. Poor cheap quality oil supply, Cheaply random mixed mystery thinners, poor "Gas" product.

[@ehowell995]

no numbnuts ethanol free gas isn't a scam. I haul this shit got a living, it is still perfectly legal to sell 100% conventional gasoline I haul alot of it, no ethanol. all e10 blends are sub octane until the pure ethanol gets blended at the loading terminal. 100% conventional gasoline is just that regular old pre ethanol gas. it is also not good to let e10 gas sit for long periods of time, you get what is called phase separation where the ethanol actually separates itself from the gasoline, and you could be running ethanol instead of a blend

[@0909-p1v]

Erin Howell And what your preaching is a marketing scam, made by brands like IsoHeet, who put pure Methanol or Isopropanol (Depending on the bottle) in your gas tank to "Fix" the ethanol issue. As if using Alcohol will make your "10% alcohol" gasoline last longer. Its a scam rehashed by mechanics who cant look past a sticker. If the government tells you its "1 Change Ethanol" You can bet there lieing for there benefit, not yours. History has shown this, time and time agein. BTW, you receiving a load and distributing the load doesnt prove a thing. Other than you believe what your told. And blender pumps are for mixing 87 with 93 to make 89..(The majority are, unless there running an E85 stations which require upgraded equipment)

[@ehowell995]

+\ 0909 all blend pumps do is make mid grade gas for places that don't have a mid grade tank, mid grade is made of 65% regular and 35% premium. I have made it on my trailer before it's called splash blending (in the past it was the only way to get mid grade). You don't realize how stupid you sound, it's like listening to somebody talk about cars, that knows absolutely nothing about cars other than what somebody else tells them. as I said before, ethanol is blended with the cbob (sub octane gas) at the loading rack. I select the product I want to load based on what a customer orders, cbob, e10 reg, e10mid, e10prem, 90rec (premium cbob), ulsd, dyed ulsd, k1, or bio blends of ulsd.

[@0909-p1v]

Erin Howell You have no idea how stupid you sound, when you have no reading comprehension. I said just the same as you on the topic of blending, there is no disagreement there. And you have no idea how stupid you sound when your convinced its legal to sell "No ethanol" gasoline to the public, when theres still a FEDERAL mandate still currently active. But, I get it, you do a simple job and you believe what your told, whatever makes you feel better.

[@0909-p1v]

Erin Howell Sure thing buttercup.

[@Jout2989]

“Had risen”....I didn’t know flowers existed in a engine talk situation! Lmao! Love the videos! I honestly can’t believe I lived in Texas and had gone to many meets including HIN and never met you guys! Old/New videos, always fun to watch! Even if I’ve seen the video more than once! I wanna see more Ike VS rooster though !

[@lancmac]

You want more power?? Get rid of those straight pipes... That kills torque....

[@E-FC3S]

Hey guys! Great to see the black widow back around. If your going to replace carburetors on these motors for any performance oriented purpose, ditch the butterfly type carbs. Mikuni slide carburetors (and any other slide type carb) is the way to go. Dynamic fuel delivery, adjustable on the spot, and far more aerodynamic. I personally like vacuum slide (CV) carburetors.

[@coondogtheman]

I had the same issue with the fuel inlet solenoid on my lawn tractor and I did exactly what you guys did. I bypassed it because it went open circuit. I removed the rubber seal then cut the wire then reinstalled it and my tractors run fine ever since.

[@williamcolley4182]

Great show gents. Inspired me to get the kids kart running...and now they want me to 'supe it up'! Modify

[@josephtalbot125]

I know this video is old, but I'm a small engine mechanic. I can tell you from experience, the "hazy" fuel is ethanol fuel with water in it.

[@sparky-jo7dk]

I had to remove the plunger in the solenoid valve on my 25hp kholer vtwin. Its on my motorized picnic table, love the videos guys

[@Brian.Gardner]

That dog has got used to you guys shenanigans. It wasn't barking this time. Haha

[@mitchcole9631]

simply amazing. why I never thought to use a vtwin is beyond me. that thing sounds awesome.

[@isaacitllbefine7231]

thanks

[@bobbyjames6940]

ike-isms it'll be fine for testing purposes only I wanna hear this thing run tonight love the build hahaha

[@geecee4]

These old videos are hilarious, u guys are so young!!

[@kita17n]

baddassery!!!!!!! I can't believe the spindles haven't broke off yet, awesome

[@jasongriffin8849]

Got to admit, that 670 would be badass on the off road cart.

[@Redn3ckRage]

Anti-backfire solenoid. It is only needed if you are turning the engine off at full rpm, such as in a generator application.

[@truantray]

the Black Window tank is of a 70s model racing kart from the same company that made Wasp karts. I'm amazed you got the fueling correct in the carbs with those straight pipes.

[@JasonBrower]

Man, those pipes! And thanks for thinking about the neighbors. :)

[@mississippiknifenut4312]

I have been waiting on the next video of this cart for the longest

[@Johnbass37]

Port work, cam, and compression. Done and done!!!

[@anwkid]

Ive been using these engines on equipment since they came out. I have 3 of them. What Ive figured out is that the vacuum diaphram fuel pumps are just junk. The engines run great if the fuel source is above them, but they will not pull fuel very far at all. I replaced my fuel pump with one from a vangaurd engine and all is well now.

[@Prometheus1st]

Hahaha. I like at the end where he says "You KNOW what I'm looking for!" and you can just catch Ike before the video cuts off replying "What...a steering wheel?"

[@511speedyes]

You could get 2 snowmobile carbs, and use the adapters from the snowmobile and mount them to the motor intake ports, and you can use the throttle cables off of the snowmobile and then get a jetting kit to tune and then run separate k&n style air filters

[@whizyt7207]

Old in the bud in the cap would be able to do a mean ass King of the hill impression. This videos making me wanna start a project though

[@JordanBoe]

man that looks almost like the go-kart of my dreams right there.

[@russelltripp9313]

The solenoid is a anti backfire solonoid. Small engines idle at higher speeds which causes the engine to draw fuel into the cylinder at shut down. The hot muffler fills with unburned gas causing a backfire after shut down.

[@armouredcat2369]

this guy knows a lot about these engines

[@nickzaugg7440]

More of the off-road cart please. Like a straight pipe on the off-road cart and maybe an intake just to let it breath better and get the tight spark plug

[@insanemowerbuilds6446]

I work as a professional at a small engine shop. A lot of engine companies call those anti backfire solenoids. Since a lot of people shut their engines off at full governed speed. They often backfire from fuel entering the exhaust that while the engine is coming to a stop. Since your engine is at idle when you shut it off, there is no reason to have it.

[@chimpchimperton]

subbed because of the red Z in the back. My favorite car I ever owned.

[@greenplant221gaming2]

yes i have worked with the honda gx 90 and i dont see why it would not work double carb on the 670

[@SpeedyJoe.]

That plunger is an anti backfire valve. You did the quick fix by cutting it off . All it does is when you shut off the engine and it's winding down keeps the carb from pulling fuel causing it to backfire.

[@avdkmusic]

I've been binge watching all the vids from before i subscribed. 👍

[@vamountainman2512]

Same, it is quite a task haha

[@thomasweatherford8930]

That thing looks. Like a blast to ride

[@cameronsmitherman6380]

+CarsandCameras That fuel solenoid is just so that the carb doesn't flood and so that the gas won't leak into the crankcase. It just shuts it off when it's not in use. I deal with that everyday as a lawnmower mechanic

[@isaacitllbefine7231]

cool. thanks

[@aa2398a]

that looks ridiculously fun....good shit

[@aaronbennett3584]

That torque monster sounds amazing!

[@codypeterson185]

Yeah, seeing that 670cc or a small motorcycle engine (250cc maybe?) in an AWD format would be pretty awesome to see and I bet y'all would like it A LOT just because you can go more places and do a lot more with it - Of course it would be rediculously powerful aswell!

[@ShanedoggH]

Ike dgaf he’s poppin wheelies in front of the neighbors lmao

[@rollin19]

Dude that was awesome!!Hahaha...pulling wheelies like a beast!

[@CJLeTeff]

The Black Widow is the best kart you guys have built.

[@crazedman6786]

The solenoid is the EPA anti backfire that all manufacturer put on lawn mower engines. unscrew and cut the plunger off and then install a fuel shut off valve to prevent the gas from filling the carb. been doing it on riding mower briggs engines for years. no problems after this mod

[@johnnybgood58]

You guys are awesome in a lot of fun I live in Indiana now but I grew up and Winston-Salem North Carolina loved it there

[@sivad87]

I bet the dual carb would work well and give a small performance buff. Only thing I would be sceptical of would they may be jetted a tad rich but easy fix if needed by jetting it down a size. Just make sure you grab a carb synchronizer to balance them otherwise it may run funky.

[@hillbillyholler516]

I was thinking fuel silonoid when you said fuel wasnt reaching the carb and filter. The silonoid is just incase you backfire in the carb it shuts the fuel off to keep it from burning up.

[@pomona187]

I just learned a lot about troubleshooting a carburetor

[@erikochmyself]

That engine on the drift trike. My God!

[@keithblackford1562]

Just subscribed after watching all the vids of you guys building up the Black Widow...cheers!

[@isaacitllbefine7231]

glad you liked it

[@4793bigdaddy]

The shutoff valve helps the engine not to backfire when you shut it off as well as keeping the engine from hydraulic locking with a gravity feed tank.

[@marshallfox8234]

I had a honda GX 390 and did a carb swap on it from NR Racing. I put a bored out carb on there and it ran like a dream. I'd highly recommend it.

[@mike796]

question: 2012 sportsman 500cc, why doesn't mine idle? it runs you just always have to place your thumb on the throttle lightly in order for it to keep running.

[@1crazynordlander]

The solenoid prevents the muffler from loading up with unburned gas on shutdown and igniting and going bang. It could possibly prevent dieseling too.

[@matthewduncan9738]

I got a Honda GXV390 mounted to my wip race mower that i had the carb replaced with a $15 chinese version that works surprisingly well actually. A couple of those should work perfectly fine provided a nice kit to get the carbs properly mounted. A GXV390 uses the same carbs as a GX390 since the difference between the two is that the GXV is a vertical shaft engine (Hence the V in the name).

[@MattTheriot284]

Hi. Can you tell me what the "widget" is in your video that displays yoiuyr speed, center of balance, etc. I am having some trouble with bouncy acceleration in my car and am having trouble finding a way to display its bouncy acceleration. That widget would be perfect. What measuring device was used to gather the datas required by it? Thanks in advance if you reply. '

[@Altartchaser]

The solenoid that is on the carb bowl, is actually a backfire solenoid. When it's faulty it doesn't let the motor run

[@DavidLieffring]

For sizing carburetors: buy carburetors with a throat diameter larger or equal to the intake valve diameter .

[@DrewskiusMaxiumusTheThird]

When it comes to small engines, any startup issue is practically always a carb issue lol

[@nfs321983]

Congrats on the 200k subs!

[@isaacitllbefine7231]

thanks

[@johnsmith-rq1mi]

Love the sound of that engine!

[@MrChico809]

oh, and by the way; you guys never disappoint on the videos!!!👍

[@isaacitllbefine7231]

thanks

[@09ICCE200]

That shutoff solenoid is purely to prevent backfiring after spark is cut off, hence the name Anti-Afterfire solenoid. Taking the plunger out will not affect running, starting, or shut down as long as it's idled down before shut down.

[@isaacitllbefine7231]

thanks

[@jakesgarage3300]

Remember Jeb's sacrifice for Jon and this build. RIP 1997-2016

[@mgkfubass]

what is that thing casually walking across the shop 😂😂😂 10:20

[@mmarchmonte88]

Y'all going on about the kart and I'm just here like, "show us more of that 300zx on the lift" hahaha

[@ltrbuhq]

I bet your neighbors love that,lol.