2024 BMW R 12 nineT Review | Daily Rider

[@Sunnbobb]

I rode one through the alps last year. It is the best bike I have ever been on. I'm 5'9. My buddies had trouble with falling over in slow tight turns on their GS1200's, a problem I never had. It had a box on the back to hold my riding gear. I rode from London all the way through the alps and back. No issues, and very comfortable. Curves were awesome. I rented it from Superbikes outside of London for a very reasonable price. I ride a Norton, Valkyrie and GL1100 at home. This bike went far beyond my expectations.

[@Des..Perado]

Waking up, pouring myself a coffee and sitting down to a fresh episode of DR. Perfect way to start a weekend.

[@Eastcoast_Rds]

doing exactly that lol

[@clayman1980]

It was lunch time for me 😄 but I totally relate.

[@SabinTV-NP]

Just before bed for me, but I guess its even better to watch before bed time.

[@oramac7237]

Same!

[@Jacob99174]

Just finished climbing out of the Grand Canyon for me But still relate! 👍🏿

[@gabrielo8922]

Zack’s ability to do video reviews of bikes is beyond impressive

[@raymadani270]

One of the best reviews ever. Answered many of my questions.

[@phil4986]

I saw one of these in red, blue and white about a year ago and it was spectacularly beautiful. I harassed the rider for about a half hour, talking to him about it. He had done several small improvements to it, to make it fit his needs perfectly. The workmanship on these is top notch. Shaft drive, tubeless cast rims and easy valve adjustments. A bike that is easy to live with.

[@mwng5186]

you know how with some bikes you kinda get used to them and start looking elsewhere? Not with these. Ive neer met any owner who doesnt absolutely love them. Me included. ive lightened mine by about 15kg, removed rear passenger subframe, titanium headers, single seat, these are very effective very fast real world bikes and look in my eyes very classy. I dont want or need attention but goodnes me does this machine get em. Mines white silver with gold (option 719) paint. In europe at least they hold their value extremely wellyes, even after 2 yeasr of ownership, im smitten, more even than the day I first lay eyes on her.

[@colinpirie8403]

Thanks for your years work Zak and merry Christmas

[@charleskilo4383]

21:30 is exactly why I sold my 2021 R NineT UGS, the feel, fit, and finish of the bike was amazing and it was absolutely love at first test ride but my goodness the BMW tax is no joke! Sure you can do the maintenance yourself but they have service interval warnings built into the dash that you can't clear without spending $600 for their fancy code tool. Anything done at the dealer costs at least $400 on a good day in my experience and it just got to a point where dealing with BMW tarnished the whole experience of that bike. My Royal Enfield GT650 has given me all the same warm fuzzies of the old school bike with just enough modern niceties to not be a hassle that I was looking for.

[@tedhoppe5918]

How come you did not buy the 911 Diagnostic tools which can reset the whole bike codes for 300 dollars and do all your own work? Better yet - more than a few BMW rider groups lend them out for free. Using that tool makes the bike great - nearly as cheap to run as the enfield and dead on bulletproof.

[@charleskilo4383]

@@tedhoppe5918 I considered buying the 911 tool but one, they certainly weren't $300 when I looked around and two, that was only one of the straws that broke the camel's back. Another big thing was lack of aftermarket support for my particular model. Maybe standard models are different but mine was the 40th anniversary edition with the 719 option and all that which looked great but for the life of me I couldn't find a luggage system that fit with the exhaust, a windscreen that wasn't universal, engine guards that didn't need some special (and costly) extension to fit around the unique heads. It was all such a hassle to do anything with the bike other than ride as it came from the showroom and maybe that's the BMW experience, but it wasn't for me in the long run.

[@johnclifford1911]

The RE GT650 is a good bike for RE, but as Joe Biden sez... "C'mon, man!" Comparable to the R9T? Really?

[@Roy_Godiksen]

It's very worth mentioning that the original model (regular NineT) has high-quality parts, but all the alternate NineT's, like NineT Urban, NineT Pure, etc, have worse suspension and a few other bits. So stick to the regular NineT.

[@cobblehillbill13]

Man I love these vids

[@stiggy186]

I love the nineT, especially in this color, but the price gap between it and the Speed Twin or Kaw Z900RS is not easy to stomach.

[@autonomousindividual7780]

Kind of like comparing a Toyota with a .....BMW. Can occupy the same exact segment and be a different animal.

[@lelouchabrilvelda1794]

​​​@@autonomousindividual7780 Well TOYOTA is richer company than BMW by the way. And that BMW is Ugly when you compared to Z900rs se yellow edition.

[@Robert-xs2mv]

@@autonomousindividual7780 more like a Lexus and bmw. Yes Lexus is Toyota Not unlike VW and Audi

[@jasonmeador124]

What a great way to end the year. Always love to see a new DR.

[@markdawson5215]

Enjoyed the year. Learned lots. Thanks!

[@louislopez55]

I like the boxer twins and was interested in a BMW but then I happened upon a local Moto Guzzi dealer and took a test ride on a V7 Stone. What a great machine! I would love a BMW from the 1970’s-80’s but BMW parts are so expensive and I already did that $vintage$ bike route once. The new ones (like this R 12) are way overpriced, but my new V7 Stone Special Edition was less than $12,000 OTD. It has many features similar to a 1970’s R 80 such as shaft drive, good mid-range power, simple 2-valve air cooled engine, 18” front wheel, and a dry clutch. It sounds even better than a boxer motor and is beautiful to look at. Oh, it also has a 5.5 gallon fuel tank. I’m glad there are great choices for different riders and incomes.

[@3rdRockRider]

I'm on my 2nd V7 (traded my Stone for the Special Edition) and recently added the Upmap, velocity stack, and performance air filter to it. Can't recommend it enough. If you haven't already, I promise you won't regret it. The gains on paper are nominal, but I can definitely feel the increase in power, eagerness, and throttle smoothness that it brings. The 2025 V7 Sport is looking tasty. Not sure if it'll be replacing the SE or an addition. Used to be a BMW guy and I would love to have the R12 9T in my garage, but times have changed and I'm not shelling out 20K for a single bike when Moto Guzzi offers such a compelling value proposition and still has character, heritage, and panache. Also, they aren't ubiquitous like the BMW. I get asked about the V7 all the time. Much love to Moto Guzzi!

[@Nomikeal]

Moto guzzis are so underrated, I had a V7 Rough and my dad had a bmw r nine t and then a thruxton r and my guzzi was comfier than the beemer and had more soul than the triumph. I finally let her go in search of more speed (Aprilia tuono 660) but I'm going to buy another.

[@ericeinar]

My BMW had over 120k miles on it. They will generally outlast most motorcycles.

[@johnclifford1911]

The V7 is a gorgeous bike and that engine is neat, but having ridden both IMO the R9T is a better bike... faster, quicker, handles better.

[@renevanderkraats3811]

Excellent choice sir! Not very high on power, but it doesn't need to be. It is such a nice bike! I ride both the V7III Racer and the Nine-T Racer. Very different in character and handling, both oozing character.

[@ChuckMahon]

Road this bike over the summer at a BMW Motorrad Demo Day event. I found it very well mannered, comfortable (6'4", 34" inseam) and loved the sound, smoothness and the feel of clean buffet free air hitting me. This is a warm weather bike to be sure and a great "around town" platform that eats up the twisty local roads. I think BMW Motorrad should just make the small TFT standard - I think it looks great and is highly functional. The biggest downside of this bike is price. I was told by BMW Motorrad rep that you won't see these below $20K MSRP because of Premium Package standard for US import. I would still buy this bike as a companion to my GS or for when I get a little older and need something more 'approachable'. Great review here Zach. Nice work. I concur with your conclusions.

[@Steven-zj2yw]

These depreciate in the used market hard. Absolutely amazing used bike for sure with a warranty.

[@jondiaz3475]

My local St Louis dealer is selling new 2024 R9T's right now for $9700. Tough to spend twice that much for barely any additional features.

[@narayanaprasadavanigadda4981]

​@@jondiaz3475 Couldn't agree more. What's a stl dealer btw

[@jondiaz3475]

@@narayanaprasadavanigadda4981 Sorry, i was referring to the St. Louis BMW motorcycle shop.

[@sebg2086]

r nine t is way beautiful

[@SprSonik13]

I walked into the dealer looking at a 719 Edition that was over $20k. After talking with the dealer and test riding a used and slightly upgraded 2015, I came back three days later and bought the 2015 for $10K out the door… it was eight model years old with 9000 miles on it and $1500 worth of upgrades. Other than keyless start and cruise control, there’s nothing on the new modeIs I would be willing to pay for compared to mine.

[@robynmolle5842]

I really enjoy DR thx Zack, looking forward to 2025

[@madotra27]

Love this series ❤️

[@SprSonik13]

I have the 2015 and it is incredible! Super comfortable even on 250 mile solo days. With Dunlop Q5S front and rear it is a blast on twisty roads. It does get a lot of attention when out and about, so add a few minutes to your plans for questions and random conversations.

[@hunkyleepickle]

i would still absolutely find and an original from back in 2014 and buy that. Better spec, sounds better, and that engine will run forever and is effectively unchanged. All the newer ones are lower spec styling exercises, and expensive ones at that!

[@twinkletoes1871]

Depends on which model. Get the more expensive option with usd forks and you’ll be happy. They added throttle by wire + CC in 2021. It’s worth it imo.

[@upgrayedd251]

Dual analog clocks. See, Triumph? Still a good idea. Please roast 'em in the eventual Speed Twin 1200 RS daily ride

[@renevanderkraats3811]

For sure! I'm not that charmed about those iPhone displays either. Both my bikes have dual analog. Feels more....real, if you know what I mean.

[@BrandViolation]

Coming up on 40k miles on my 18’ UrbanGS, great touring bike, commuter, etc. all up and down the west coast and PNW.

[@adamgreenhaus4691]

Can’t wait to pick up a well-kept, low mileage example in two or three years for a third of the price.

[@SW8-n1h]

absolutely worth a comment.

[@C64SX]

Yea that's what a dash should look like. Analogue speedo and tach. Wish I had that on my bike. And it looks a bit weird riding around without a key in the ignition :)

[@diyeveryday67]

These are very pretty bikes. Comparison to Z900 is interesting because z900 not my cup of tea, but you can buy 2 -Z900’s for the price of the R9T! Very different bike providing very different “feels”.

[@pin0teres]

Regarding traveling on a modern classic Moto Guzzi V7 for year 2025 will get a cruise control which combined with 5.5gal tank and a comfortable seat makes it a decent option for longer trips.

[@TerraMagnus]

Yeah I’m a BMW rider now (2016 R1200RT). I want my next bike to be a little lighter, a little more raw, but still fit for laying down big miles over long consecutive days/weeks of riding. I’m watching Moto Guzzi and like where they are heading. I think more than any other brand, they are figuring out how to pull BMW buyers and admirers to their own brand. I just wish they could figure out how to build a stronger dealership network presence in North America.

[@ericeinar]

Loved my 3 BMW’s. Super reliable and super long lasting. Fun to ride.

[@WickedCerberus]

I'm sad that there is no new Honda Interceptor / VFR, i'd love to hear a daily ride about it

[@creedm3040]

Awesome video! How does it compare to the Motoguzzi on the board? Best!

[@SSS-mp8th]

Bought a 2017 in very early 2021. 2017 had a number of updates, 2021 many more like ride by wire throttle, led lights and then of course the new model. I’ve been very happy with it spent a lot on mods and now that new ones are so expensive I don’t mind as much spend what I did on modifications.

[@mikeadams2351]

Boxers aren't for everyone. I love the two I have, '83 R80RT, 2012 R1200R Classic. the 2012 has chased 1250 KTMs through the mountains and wasn't left "wanting".

[@ruiner88]

I've been waiting for a NineT review for so long, let's see what this 12 is about...

[@RevZilla]

Read more about the R 12 nineT on Common Tread: rvz.la/3Vxt1WA Check out all of the newest motorcycle gear available: rvz.la/3ZCd8PA

[@sethmark]

Let’s be honest. BMW is building these bikes for guys like me. 50 years old, disposable income, and an appreciation for a little finer details. I ride a BMW motorcycle nearly every single day. There’s a difference. There’s a little more refinement, the castings and forgings are a little higher quality, the switchgear feels a little better. Not tons. But a little better. The price hang ups I get. When I was a younger man, I would’ve complained about the same things. I didn’t have disposable income. Now I do. I buy better bikes.

[@JayBee-cr8jm]

I hear you. I just bought a new V-Strom 800DE and am disgusted by the corroding spokes, non-waterproof seat, non adjustable levers/controls, thin paint and various other shortcuts. I'm ready (and able) to pay more for a better bike.

[@brianmeyer3050]

Higher quality than what?

[@JayBee-cr8jm]

@@brianmeyer3050 Beats me. I paid $11,800 for my V-Strom. I would pay $18,000 for the same bike if it came with better paint, better finishes (anodization, plating , etc), heated grips, cruise control, stainless steel spokes, a waterproof seat, adjustable controls and a working headlight. The stock headlight shouldn't be street legal. I have never owned a BMW but the poor quality on my Triumph and now my Suzuki have been looking for the door.

[@raymadani270]

​@@JayBee-cr8jmI owned a Suzuki, it was crappy and was my last suzuki. I have a BMW and I appreciate its quality and customer support. Looking to add a Triumph to my stable and your comment concened me. What model and year is your Truimph?

[@Washoejim]

Looks pretty nice, see how it does for long ride comfort. The ride seems pretty darn smooth and easy going, the footless stops seem to be almost effortless and stable. The engine, and exhaust sounds nice subtle and pleasant while driving and at stops. The colors and pattern look right on and very attractive.

[@ChrisVanMiddelkoop]

Thats the problem with all quick shifters. You can shift smoother with the clutch but when you are pinned going as fast as possible that is when quick shifters are really nice.

[@Hansengineering]

I rode one a few years ago and was struck by how slow the engine spun up. Compared to my ATAS I had to honk on the throttle for downshifts. If I failed to rev-match perfectly, the rear tire would let me know. Also, the weight was "extremely low" and the bike felt dense! It is an interesting bike.

[@aarondeere]

I have a 1250rt and that boxer engine is wonderful. Surprised at the low fuel economy. My much heavier rt averages 45mpg all the time.

[@AF-O6]

Would love to see it in the Urban GS trim.

[@JohnJay1745]

I'm 6'3" (190cm) and primarily like to tour. This bike is in no-man's land for me. The gas tank is too small and the fuel range too short. The lower-body ergos are too cramped for long rides. It's not particularly fast and it's windy on the highway. If I only owned one motorcycle it would NOT be this one. If I owned 5 or 6 bikes, this might make it into my garage. For $20k plus, it's an easy pass for me. I have a BMW S1000R and that bike beats this one hands down. If I am going to be cramped, the ride better be exhilarating. Thank you for all the great Daily Rider episodes this year. Enjoy!

[@nielsmeer]

I’m the same height and when I bought my S1000R in 2015, I was trading in my R12000R, which is quite similar to the RNineT in concept, though slightly more capable of touring. The S1000R’s speed and handling were an addictive option, but TBH, the S1000R is still fairly cramped and touring isn’t the best on it. After a 500 mile day, I couldn’t wait to get off the bike. Nowadays, it’s relegated to the quick short runs (

[@JohnJay1745]

@@nielsmeer - The manual for my S1000R says the fuel tank holds 4.6-gallons (17.5 liters). When I am touring on it I easily get 42 mpg or more, and around town, I get about 35. When I used my S1kR for touring I could do 650 miles max in a day, but the last 300 miles were an exercise in pain management. I got tired of being in pain, so I bought a Tiger 900 Rally Pro for long-distance trips and it is super comfortable. I kept the S1kR for shorter trips because it's such a thrill to ride fast. Nothing about the R12 Nine T thrills me except for the build quality and shaft drive. It's not particularly fast, it has cramped ergos, and no wind protection. Meh! Reasonable people can and do buy this motorcycle. I am simply stating my preferences at this moment. I will eventually have 7 motorcycles or so now that my kids are done with school and weddings. Even so, I don't see the R12 Nine T making it into my garage. Because I want to be comfortable, my bias will likely be toward fast adventure bikes like the V4 Multistrada.

[@nielsmeer]

@@JohnJay1745 It doesn’t have to be for everyone. While the S1000R certainly has more performance than the RNineT, I personally think the RNineT looks better & the shaft drive does make maintenance easier. While I appreciate the RNineT, I wouldn’t add one in my garage either. I was merely observing that compared to the S1000R, it would have more range and no worse ergos. I’m likely replacing my S1000R for a MotoGuzzi V7 as I like the character of that engine better than the pure power of my S1000R and after 10 years with the bike, I’ve grown a bit bored of it. But that’s why I love there are so many bikes available, there is always at least one for everyone’s preferences!

[@leftcoaster67]

I like the R12. Because it's lower seat height. And it has ROUND mirrors.

[@markgold2450]

Sounds like the taller seat option (free when you buy these new) and a windscreen would make this even better, especially for freeway riding. Too bad BMW decided to forgo the fuel gauge on this bike, even as a menu item to scroll through to. That said, BMW has a history of wonky fuel gauges (early 2000 R bikes, and F bikes with their under seat mounted fuel tanks come to mind) so it’s not a big surprise. Still, sounds like a great bike!

[@alanprice9938]

Animal?……. May I suggest Wildebeest. And yes, I love them 😃

[@marcelisujecki4707]

Great review! I think the new classic look of the new S model looks better! Is the Bmw 1300 gsa with the asa review coming soon?

[@JDP-we9hk]

I wouldn't turn down a free one, but if I were in the market for this type of bike I'm definitely getting the Triumph Speed Twin with my coin.

[@williamsouthworth5275]

Yay! A new Daily. Oh its another $Bmw$.......... Love the Video's and Zack's part and the score board at the end. Did I put my foot down? Need more categories for daily Rider? Take More Points off for the $price$ Penalty!

[@TheGubbist]

Ooh, is that a Saab Sonett II at 11:33?

[@DogMania]

First! Love your content!

[@SenorGato237]

How's the throttle response when you're already driving? I've seen newer bikes having slow response off idle, but great wile already moving. I think it might be an emissions thing, similar to rev hang on some newer cars. I learned to ride and maintain bikes on an ooollllllld airhead. They have a special place for me, and I've been looking to get back into it. Right now, for my money, I'm thinking a used 1st gen R9T.

[@ogasi1798]

aspirational bike , or at least for me, if i had the cash then i'd absolutely own one

[@TerraMagnus]

Zack it would be neat to have a special Revzilla video where you go back to your dad’s old airhead and kind of compare/contrast/reflect on how BMW is doing with regards to building modern bikes that are grounded in their heritage models that made the Motorrad great.

[@anthonysilvestri4946]

@18:50 Zack decides to wheelie the 9T right in front of a cop!! 🙂🙂🙂

[@thinkdunson]

31:30 you follow old Rafiki. he know de way.

[@johnclifford1911]

I find your videos full of knowledge and entertaining, but the 'Daily Rider' label is confusing. I have a '17 R1200 GSA that is a great bike, but no way is it or a BMW 1300 GS a better bike for riding around on local trips or commuting than the R9T. Instead of comparing it to a baboon, a hulking beast of a primate, the R9T is a leopard... not the fastest, biggest, or most powerful, but quick, powerful, athletic, graceful, and agile. It's a great bike to jump on and meet friends on a summer evening, take a day ride on twisty troads, commute to work in traffic, or run down to the store for a backpack of groceries. Especially if you're not 6'2" with a 34" inseam. It's the sportiest of the retro classic/heritage bikes yet still a pleasant relaxing ride. Surprised you didn't rate it higher than the F900 GS as a daily rider... that bike is a disappointment... or even the Guzzi. What a fun bike that deserves a better score.

[@blackbuttecruizr]

I'd be curious to see if Zach can get his hands on an Arch for a DR?

[@Teatimeted]

That I would love to see. Come on Keanu!

[@NoNeedForSensorsOnYouTube]

Wheelies and driveshafts are a bad combination. 😂🤘

[@oramac7237]

30:00 How many miles are on it? In my experience, quickshifters need a few thousand miles to really break in and feel better.

[@Bbbuddy]

Valve checks on a boxer are almost fun.

[@jtdiffen]

Using a half-height windscreen solves the highway touring problem. Givi makes a really nice one. I’ve been using for 8 years.. Turned my 2015 R9T into a true 1200 GS A complete with Wunderlich skid plate, hand Guard, and light touring luggage…. Sweet

[@pistonburner6448]

When I was on the Grossglockner on my MV Agusta, a guy with one of these had just crudely cut his original BMW windscreen down to about half so he could stand cruising with it on his vacation. The full-size original windscreen gave him constant buffeting right on his helmet.

[@leftcoaster67]

I have a 30" inseam. Is there a reason bikes seem to be getting taller?

[@philNullFunf]

Delay is due to the driving mode. Put in dynamic and it will be more instantaneous. The breaks are a little smaller, but better.

[@heiner71]

I don't think the engine was reving up with a delay. The speedometer needle was too slow.

[@sergpotapov]

As the owner of a 2023 R nineT, I don’t notice any changes regarding the delay when switching driving modes-it is noticeable and equally annoying in all modes.

[@nomad-zen]

Everyone is complaining about the fuel gauge, but it's really not a big deal - mileage metter replaces it easily. I have a prev gen nineT and don't like the new one. IMO it looks worse and the only upgrade is seems that it now has a rear fender and probably better seat? Original nineT seat is hard and uncomfortable after 1hour

[@starkparker16]

6K valve checks will try the tolerance of most.

[@alexm6340]

While I do agree with you and this is definitely not for everyone the valve checks on these engines are INCREDIBLY easy, even adjusting is pretty easy, with that said, it's very rare that you actually need to adjust them every 6k, I would say 18k at best. So yea, if you're not scared to get your hands dirty, a valve check is done within 30 minutes and a simple job on these boxer engines.

[@Eileen-e8f]

About 200 for the check with about 4-600 more is the service is done. Bmw has failed to provide proper products for quite a while now..

[@RetroRocketeer]

How many bikes has Zack tested and that's the first I can remember the "twisty road section" being free of any car ahead.

[@jeremyb4493]

Nice looking bike (from the side) but the way that engine protrudes like that just looks so awkward to me vs any other layout. From the front it's like Frankenstein with those big neck bolts sticking out.

[@deano_s2k]

Would of liked to have seen the 24 MT09 on the board

[@mr.kettle5189]

Would you ever add a new segment on how easy it is to be a good Samaritan on your ride and pick up cones?

[@josech]

Interesting that only two bikes got the giggles mark this year. Is that an indication of where the market is going to?

[@autonomousindividual7780]

I must really be a freak. I love adjusting valves on my 1150gs.

[@_Makanko_]

Perhaps a bit of a silly question; in the case of an intersection in the US, I noticed sometimes all roads have a stop sign and line. What does this do for who has the right of way when all vehicles have to stop? Does it change in any way?

[@johnclifford1911]

The white line is there to show where you should stop (vehicle behind the line). All rules for who has precedence aren't changed.

[@max_archer]

Right of way belongs to the first vehicle that arrives at the intersection. If two or more arrive at the same time, then you go ahead of cars to your left, but give way to cars on your right, at least here in California. I honestly have no idea what you're supposed to do if four cars arrive at once and can't find an easy answer, in practice it usually happens when there's heavy traffic and people just figure it out on the fly.

[@neil-yn1ep]

How long is your commute ?

[@johnflano6973]

Always love your Daily riders. Are you going to do the new MOTO GUZZI STELVIO?? 🤗✨🌴🙏🌴🌴

[@whollymindless]

I imagine a rowdy / raw version - a little FTR flavor.

[@taylor2105]

26:00 he mentions the same thing.

[@mwng5186]

@@taylor2105 shedding 15kg from rear pax subframe and a straight through ti akra, yes, she boogies.ive got a daytona675r too and have to ride that thing pretty damn hard to keep up with me on the 9t if you see what I mean

[@taylor2105]

@@mwng5186 it's less about speed with a bike like this. It's about character. Plenty of 4k sport bikes that would roast this. But that's not why you buy it

[@clydeosterhout1221]

I don’t think you’ve ever tested a bike that turned me off as much as this one. I can’t understand what it is trying to be. It isn’t good for touring. It is too heavy for a sports bike. It is too thirsty, and way too expensive to commute on. Off road? That’s laughable. I don’t even think it looks right. It reminds me of one of the customs built bikes from 20 years ago: a $20,000 piece of costume jewelry. Different spokes for different folks. I get it! And obviously enough people buy this bike to keep it n production. And I’m not saying I wouldn’t love to take one for a ride. I’ve never ridden a bike that wasn’t fun. But buy one? I’d much rather have one of the new RE twins for 1/4 the price. Which animal? A hippo.

[@churchofbrap876]

Simple, don't buy one. Why u gotta post a novel. Nobody cares.

[@SW8-n1h]

Too thirsty? Which fun bike takes less?

[@splodge57]

Wouldn't be as much fun to read if he just said 'I wouldn't buy one.' Me, I don't like it.

[@91C4NVA]

I would have more respect for the bike if the price matched what you get, average performance, average handling on a naked bike you can get pretty easily in the $10k market.

[@SW8-n1h]

@@91C4NVA Before I start, you did ride it, right?

[@tolga1cool]

Cant wait dor the GS / Enduro version of this that has already been spied

[@Gizb0000]

Having a GSX1400 from 2005, i still prefer it comparing to that R12 2024...

[@Sojourning1]

Hope Zach is planning a recap session of the 2024 DRL? Would be an interesting exercise to see if there would be any changes based on reflections and/or new information.

[@luxlamf]

I have to deal with a BMW dealer for my Triumph Scrambler 2012 as they are the closest Triumph dealership near me. I needed a clutch swap last year and didnt feel like doing it myself. They wouldn't let me use Barnett clutch pac (The OEM died at 30k, thats horrible I don't want those back in my bike) then they quoted me $1200.00 to do a clutch swap on a simple air cooled Triumph. That didnt include oil change so add $150.00 to that. Ended up buying the clutch tool ($200) and the Barnett pc ($200) and did it myself. Took about 90 minutes. 6000 mile valve job on this thing? Is this a High Performance machine? I am guessing $1500-$2000 for that. Uneceptable., I have HD's and Trumpets, None have these ridiculous "Standards". I know guys that use to trade in their Ducati's right before the big 2500 mile service they all use to require. They fixed that on the lower priced models like Monster. I have a BMW Car, it's fine. I wouldn't consider this bike any day of the week.

[@sorecawk]

ktm 890 smt still near the top yee haw!

[@uglybiketours4344]

It's clear that you haven't taken a motorcycle to a dealer for inspection in a long time. The curse of free motorcycles. 😉😉 Ask how much the 18,000 mile service including valves costs at Ducati and how much it costs at BMW. 😉😉 BMW and Moto Guzzi both have 6,000 mile valve inspections and it costs next to nothing. Because with both motorcycles you don't have to take half the motorcycle apart to check it, like with the Ducati, including the V engine which makes the whole thing even more complicated. 😉😉 just for your information...

[@jpapss]

How does this compare to the equivalent offering from moto guzzi?

[@aventari]

12:53 E30 sighting

[@LEEGOOVER9901]

Why there is keyhole on the triple-clamp again?

[@SW8-n1h]

Lock the steering.

[@danielcarroll5667]

Wow , some weird old saying keeps popping into my mind. , "if you have to ask , I can't explain"

[@jeffreyastjohn]

I rode a BMW Boxster years ago. That one was similar to this but had the telelever suspension. It was a *great* bike. Really balanced and just a blast to ride. Didn’t end up buying it and I think it would’ve been a perfect city/day-trip-to-the-mountains bike. Love the look of this but I think at $20k I’d look at the Triumph 1200XE.

[@The_Best_Boxing_News]

Leopard!

[@malcolmpatton9314]

I wanted a naked bike instead of my current adventure bike,I tried the Royal Enfield bear and found the wide handle bars and slightly down a more lean forward and gear lever position strange and I tried the Royal Enfield shotgun surely this would be better and it was but the clutch was heavy and found the clocks difficult to see with my crap eyesight.i have gotten use to Japanese light slipper clutches love the look of these bikes with twin clocks. This bmw with a tft might just be the bike for me but gees where’s the money coming from,sell my bike the wife’s bike my car ? 😂

[@elinoamrichter162]

what is zack's actual daily rider?

[@SabinTV-NP]

18:04 One of those options should just be the fuel gauge. Matter of fact, that should be its default setting when the bike is turned on for the first time and then the rider scan just choose to cycle between other information it offers.

[@jacobradak6936]

Light comes on. Get gas within 40 miles. No issue.

[@redryder1146]

I like how you said BMW tax when you were referring to the price, but you can probably say that about any European bike Ducati tax KTM tax

[@hankgs]

I have had over a dozen of the R Boxers and LOVE them... After a bunch of GS', I thought I'd try an (old again Rnine T) air-oil cooled as I never liked the water cooled boxers... Great bike, BUT not enough suspension travel on our destroyed California roads... I went back to a older 2011 GS - Same engine, no water cooling and tons of suspension...! Everyone who rides a RnineT WILL want a GS, it a no brainer...

[@nomad-zen]

Upgrade suspension?

[@hankgs]

@@nomad-zen Not worth it... I had a 2016 GSA (water cooled) and missed the air/oil cool Boxer, so I bought a 2021 R9T Urban. Loved the engine, but the suspension sucked. Sold them both and got a 2011 1200GS and it is THE Best! Canyon carver, two lane backroad brawler, touring, and light trails... In my opinion, the last generation of the Air/Oil cooled BMW GS' are the best bikes you can buy and they are a bargain and easy to maintain....

[@nomad-zen]

@@hankgs i upgraded suspension which added 40mm, I understand GS is better (mostly for longer suspension travel), but I love the looks and nakedness feeling

[@MrMistery101]

I'm amused that out of all the parts from the bins they have, they chose the mirrors from the f850gs.

[@tonylastname6468]

I'm not a fan of the quick shifter on the F900GS. Same shifter? Water Buffalo.

[@danielkramer8586]

Those Tuono mirrors are sexy. But, you are right, Zach. They do look out of place.

[@mikelyon5595]

Sharp!

[@mark222b]

I love the bike, I don’t love the price

[@nomad-zen]

Prev gen imo looks better and is on the sale right now. You can get it for ~10k

[@desmo8755]

Much as I like my 1st gen R9T and at $14K a decade ago I can believe the current pricing … but $20K is an unbelievable price for a standard kind of bike. The 2nd gen seems too generic to command that kind of loot.

[@hokogan]

It’s amazing they have all this tech and all that data on the dash, but still no fuel gauge. 😂

[@ThunderApache]

5:40 just add metric measurements 😂

[@jamesmegill]

Nice bike! But. I could purchase a new Moto Guzzi and a couple of Royal Enfields and new gear, and maybe a surfboard?

[@squid148]

The bike seems like a refined version of R1100.