Nest Learning Thermostat 4th Gen with Matter in Apple Home

[@ReyG_HKSH]

I’ve wanted a Nest thermostat for years… Will this new Nest thermostat entice you to replace an Ecobee (or other) in your Apple HomeKit home?

[@troydonaldson]

No, I won't be getting it because it's a Google product. Plus I'm very happy with my existing Ecobee Premium. I actually prefer the design of the previous Nest thermostat. The new one's base that mounts to the wall is so small that for most it will require significant drywall patching to make it look good (mounting plates are ugly imo).

[@ReyG_HKSH]

@@troydonaldson Concur. It looks so cool though 🤓 Gotta say I do really like the iPod-like controls.

[@troydonaldson]

@@ReyG_HKSH Yeah I like the iPod like controls too, but with my Ecobee, I never actually touch the thermostat anyways. My climate is fully automated with Ecobee, and if I want to manually adjust warmer or cooler, I just say “Siri make it warmer/cooler”. I never need to physically walk up to the thermostat and adjust the temperature.

[@mrwatkins111]

You can always take a pic of the previous wiring

[@johnszatkowski6898]

Good argument! I've had my Nest Gen2 thermostat forever and has PAID for itself and then some which is now ancient BUT, still works perfectly and will run Routines like it always has so, WHY would I want to spend extra MONEY for something that is STILL working and its "new" features will NOT benefit me in any way??? Ask yourself that question and get back to me! Ecobee came out WAY later than the Nest thermostats did and I went with that at the time. Ecobee is a good brand as well, but was NOT available way back then. Just how elaborate do you need to get with heating/cooling?? It's either ON or OFF based on temperature and when needed???

[@am9027-d7i]

Thank you! You helped me to connect my Nest 4 to Apple Home Kit seamlessly. I love this thermostat, especially being able to manage the temperature of my home verbally via Siri.

[@ReyG_HKSH]

You are very welcome, thanks for taking the time to let me know you found this video useful! 🙏

[@michaelhelverskov]

The best “go through” video 🙏

[@ReyG_HKSH]

Hope you found it useful! 🙏

[@Mr_J_J]

Masterclass! Mahalo! I’m definitely putting one of these in my new cabin when it closes.

[@ReyG_HKSH]

Awesome, I think you’ll really enjoy it. I still stare at this thing on my wall it looks so cool! 😎

[@twennywonn]

Google handicapped the Matter integration with homekit. With Home Assistant you gain access to eco mode, and the sensors. Or you can get a starling hub which exposes the same.

[@SparkleBoom2023]

Oooooo, the gold one😍

[@StephenKeel]

Two thumbs up!! 👍👍

[@leilanidrayber8119]

Never thought I'd say a thermostat is pretty but that gold Nest is so pretty 🤩 TIme to upgrade? 🤔

[@ReyG_HKSH]

Not only does it function as it should it looks great doing it 😉

[@styngerbee9515]

Hey man, great video... first one ive watched, I'm setting up a google home environment but still appreciate a good homekit video. I was shocked you left your whole address just readily available on screen, id be worried about doxxing.

[@ReyG_HKSH]

I appreciate the heads up, the address is a bit of an Easter egg 🤫

[@TripleFermentation]

I'm glad you mentioned the mounting plate - it's huge and ugly, and I was wondering if the thermostat could be installed without it as well!

[@ReyG_HKSH]

Yes, the mounting plate for this, or any smart thermostat is unsightly in my opinion. Looks best without it and for the price it needs to look its best 😂

[@TheDiymovies]

I know it is one of the most tech rotted brain takes, but the screen to bezel ration has me eyeing upgrade HARD. Looks gorgeous!

[@ReyG_HKSH]

🤣 It IS gorgeous.

[@Msime3202]

Thank you! One question, right now I’m on heat and the desired temperature had reached,(72f) but the heat keeps running instead of stopping. Do I have to press hold at all time?

[@davidschlemmer4115]

Great video. As much as I like the nest ,I’ll stick with my ecobee 4 though. they lost me when you said the sensor doesn’t show in HomeKit

[@ReyG_HKSH]

In reality, even my Ecobee 3 was good enough for my needs but I’ve always been enamored with the iPod inspired controls and with the 4th gen, the thing really looks great mounted on my wall. 🤩

[@carlossap]

You can with Starling Home Hub

[@mejaii]

Do you think the Gold sheen on the screen sacrifices visibility a bit? Do you think the silver/black colours have better visibility?

[@ReyG_HKSH]

I was worried about that when I first ordered it to be honest but I’ve never had any difficulty reading the thermostat.

[@25dannyleyva]

The old nest never lasted more than a year would always stop connecting to wifi after a year. Hope this one works better for us

[@ReyG_HKSH]

Hopefully this lasts for years. I guess I’ll keep the Ecobee as a backup.

[@drapetomaniack]

What are options for HomeKit matter hubs… assuming you need a HomeKit matter compatible hub to control the thermostat outside the home… correct? Example are all home pods matter compatible?

[@ReyG_HKSH]

For Apple Home compatibility with Matter devices you will need either an Apple TV 4K, HomePod Mini or HomePod 2.

[@jasonpantig6346]

Do you have a link for your apple watch band? 😆

[@Max86421]

Nice! Matter smart devices save Apple HomeKit 💯

[@BobbieGWhiz]

I could get HomeKit and Matter to work on my previous generation Google nest (plastic) nonlearning thermostat using my iPhone 11, but only when I’m at home on my network. Remotely it won’t work. It also won’t work at all at home with my 9th gen iPad. It says I need a home hub with either HomePods or Apple TV. Any thoughts? Thanks

[@SuperMatrix33]

how about the tempture swing the most compliant for 3rd gen?

[@T0M4T035]

Maybe dumb question, but does it work with automations via Matter? I want to be able to say Hey Siri, goodnight, and have my lights go off, temperature go down, etc.

[@ReyG_HKSH]

Yes, you can add it to scene automation.

[@joelrnyc325]

Are you able to delete the google home app after set up and still use it exclusively with home kit? That’s the only way I would buy this

[@ReyG_HKSH]

Yes, but since there is no support with the native Nest app, there is no way to set schedules or any of the other advanced functions. If you set all those in the Google app during set up, it is possible to delete the app and control the basic functions in the Apple Home app.

[@joelrnyc325]

Much appreciated thank you! I don’t use schedules anyway so this is perfect for me.

[@lenoduan4800]

Thanks for the video,I have 1 question,Do I need to connect the nest thermostat to Google home for the 1st time installation then go to homekit,or I can connect to homekit directly?

[@ReyG_HKSH]

It was my first time setting up any Nest product but I had to go through Google Home to do the initial setup to get the Matter code to pair with Apple Home. The Google app may be deleted afterward and it will continue to work in Apple Home.

[@HMC-p6p]

I just installed two of these in My Home and pick them up through the Georgia Power Marketplace for $79.95 each because there’s a $200 rebate through Georgia Power. Simple to set up and looks great on the wall. No way I’d have spent $600 on 2 of these. Pretty sad you don’t realize this is Home Kit compatible when making a review.

[@stevestofiel3521]

Thanks for the review. If it was not a google product I would consider replacing my ecobee but I don’t use any google hardware or software lol

[@stevestofiel3521]

Well I guess KZbin is google so that’s the exception 😅

[@ReyG_HKSH]

I hear ya’ and your opinions coincide with mine regarding Google products. The Google Home app is the only Google app installed on my phone. The lure of Nest forbidden fruit got me though 😂

[@alext8640]

Nice job on this video. The address made wonder a bit but from what I read I assume your smart enough to have as a fake. I bought 4th one but it’s not compatible with my system according the the google home app when I listed the wires going to my old thermostat. I was going to buy a ecobee because of their high ratings and I’m surprised you would change them out.

[@ToddsAntiqueapparatus]

I have many Alexa things in my home, will it work with Alexa verbal commands? Or I have Samsung Smart Things, will it work with Samsung? Thanks

[@ReyG_HKSH]

It is Matter compatible so it should integrate into those platforms. I’m able to control it via Siri so Alexa should be able to as well.

[@twosawyers]

Google destroyed the progressive tech of the nest thermostat. The nest thermostat used to get almost an update every three months with new features and now I’ve had the third generation and zero updates, zero feature improvements.

[@ReyG_HKSH]

My first Nest so I don’t really have too many gripes other than I was pretty much forced to open a Google Home account to get this into Apple Home which is my platform preference.

[@stifflers69mom1]

I’ll never buy anything from nest / google again…..I bought a the gen 3 2019 ….this year it decides to not turn on my boiler ……my ac unit works fine , but no call for heat……google told me it was a issue with the base …….of course google no longer sells the base new any more …..so I had to find a used one off eBay 🙄….I get the used one…now no call for ac ….something is obviously is wrong with the stupid bases ….280$ I’ve spent for a thermostat to last 4 years…..this thing has saved me nothing….now I have to change out bases every season 🙄 freaking unbelievable

[@DChase19]

Good review, that is one nice thermostat. It's tempting but I'll need to wait 'til it goes on sale. 😂

[@ReyG_HKSH]

It’s not cheap that’s for sure! 💸

[@Abdulrahjas]

Hi,how we can make 3 fan speed pls let know

[@willieperez3549]

Returning mine not compatible with the Nest app

[@ReyG_HKSH]

I do wish it had native Nest app compatibility, maybe then I wouldn’t have needed to open a Google Home account.

[@jamesm568]

People come over and see that little mushroom on my wall and wonder what it is. Never had that issue with the Nest thermostat third gen. I do like the bigger display, but it is a downgrade from the third gen model.

[@robvoyles]

looks like a saucer stuck to the wall...

[@jamesm568]

@@robvoyles And I got the PW3 to match it. Lol!

[@michailangelopoulos5602]

The previous Nest design was inspired by the classic round electromechanical Honeywell thermostat from the '50s. It was a modern take on that innovative design. No wonder its purpose was obvious.

[@alexkwitko1577]

Good job Walter White.

[@ReyG_HKSH]

🤫😉

[@robvoyles]

looks like a saucer stuck to the wall...i'll stick with the 3rd gen, this one doesn't look near as attractive.

[@ReyG_HKSH]

Looks are subjective but fair point. If I had a choice between the two, I’d stick with the 4th gen, it looks much better to me than the 3rd, like art on the wall.

[@SparkleBoom2023]

Argh, I hope he didn't dox himself😬

[@bradynestudio4581]

I've watched a few of his videos. Google the addy.

[@planetdom]

Looks ugly compared to the previous version

[@ReyG_HKSH]

It’s subjective. I prefer the aesthetic of 4th gen to the previous models.

[@johnszatkowski6898]

I did NOT watch this video because I have the Nest Learning Thermostat GEN 2 and already works with Alexa, Google, and SmartThings and has PAID for itself several times over. AND STILL is working fine so WHY would I want to PAY money for something I never even look at or touch for YEARS now? I have Routines setup to control all these already so WHY do I need to "upgrade"? I DON'T! If it ain't broke the WHY fix it? You DON'T! This "new" model with it's domed glass has MORE reflections and fingerprints and is WORSE that what I have! Now when my Nest GEN 2 gives up the ghost I will indeed buy this but for now absolutely NOT! I still have an OLD tech thermostat on hand to put in place while I wait for a replacement to arrive in the event of a failure! Smart Home "tech" is NOT perfect and ALWAYS need a "backup" plan when shit goes south!

[@bonestube3713]

Chill wtf lol

[@HockeyGuy_in_STL]

Rant

[@johnszatkowski6898]

@@HockeyGuy_in_STL Perhaps but, WHY upgrade for the EXACT same functionality as I do NOT use Apple Home??? Can you answer the $275 WASTE of money question? There's NO need at this point! Just because something is "new" that offers NO "new" features for your use case, what is the point? Can you answer that genius?? Do you change light bulbs before they burn out?? OR replace your vehicle's tires 20K miles before you need to???? Do you???

[@HIVCureTrials]

I bought the new one. No difference tbh but the only difference it runs my central air less harder but more consistent basically the same thing however my central air cost me 6k so I need the best I don’t recommend it necessary but also it is more ai like.

[@bradynestudio4581]

You didn't' watch but you went on a long winded rant anyway. The guy talks about having a ecobee and not really needing to replace thermostats.