Reynor vs Serral ZvZ - Finals - WCS Fall 2019 - StarCraft II

[@menex7196]

I got a feeling, Serral sees a bigger challenge and fears the interview after winning more than facing any opponent.

[@KrossFire330]

ahhah thats hilarious

[@calliph]

I would be. Public speaking for shy people is usually a nightmare.

[@exnihilonihilfit6316]

He should work on his pronunciation though. :D Slowly reading aloud could be useful for this if you take special care to articulate correctly. And this is a young man that reeaally knows how to learn methodically and deliberately. :D

[@Bobaflott]

Serral's job is to play starcraft. The commentators though...

[@commandertresdin5953]

Serral will be nerfed next patch

[@khristienpennanen1810]

Patch notes 2020 : break serral's left arm

[@exnihilonihilfit6316]

​@@khristienpennanen1810 Probably not enough. Amputate. :D

[@piotrzakrzewski2766]

and keep winning anyway

[@louel9272]

They cant nerf him...he is Neo

[@danconser6709]

Still Gotta Love Reynor, he's such a good sport & he LOVES THE GAME!

[@KrossFire330]

He's the only player I've seen that smiles after a loss. What a great dude

[@thesaim1036]

The smile on his face after the first game :)

[@stevenlang90]

Reynor will have his time...

[@siechamontillado]

Serral's eyes show nothing but death. And maybe a want for Monster Energy Drink. Or maybe a Slim Jim. Who knows, but death is definitely one of the things glinting there in Serral's eyes.

[@battpack7087]

I’ll never be able to unsee that. Thank you for that revelation lol

[@MrBigCookieCrumble]

He's Finish, it's a natural thing!

[@Caldera01]

He's a Finn, so the other thing is definitely some salmiakki. We love that stuff.

[@ivan_says_hi]

I'm Russian, I think it's natural for us to be afraid of Fins. They are like Russians but quieter and scarier. Serral's facial expression is like finish sniper shooting at clueless soldiers. Cold, calculating, analytical, brutal but most importantly completely without mercy.

[@demonkoryu]

Neeb's got that look too, it's even scarier.

[@olgoodwin]

That first game! That feeling when regardless who wins - you feel how worth it will be!

[@CoryTheSimmons]

That first game was amazing. Within a few hundred minerals of each other... Neck and neck the entire time until the base race at the end.

[@AdmiralBison]

Serral’s toughest opponent is the champagne bottle.

[@zen23ish]

lol, good one.

[@Ryder.Draconis]

He's not old enough to drink it.

[@AnnieNTibbersz]

@@Ryder.Draconis he is 21 so u expect him to drink it when hes 80 or something? lmao

[@sexysalmon4411]

@@AnnieNTibbersz Agree, but He's 21? Looks younger tbh

[@atrudokht]

@@AnnieNTibbersz I bet drinking alcoholic beverage isn't his cup of tea

[@misspurdy27288]

Game 1 was the most epic starcraft match i have ever seen. Maybe not the best, but the most epic.

[@geoffreystevens2916]

yeah seriously, I had goosebumps there at the end, how insane.

[@misspurdy27288]

Geoffrey Stevens its a shame the rest of the series was just build order wins from serral.

[@BenWoods]

Nah, bomber vs scarlett red bull battlegrounds was by far the most epic match in sc2 history.

[@misspurdy27288]

Ben Jammin most epic series yes, but as for single match game 1 here takes the cake

[@gulllars4620]

This is such impressive skill. Both players showing great control and strategy, but i think Serral's positional play and macro reactions/counters is just stronger. And like the casters said, i don't even think of this as typical ZvZ, the way they play is against each other is different than how others do ZvZ to the point where it almost looks like a different race matchup.

[@IamMonikaDLC]

Even a bro hug this time, what a champ!

[@tilmanvogel2387]

Reynor initiated that, but great moment nonetheless ^^

[@Iguana1500]

"camera man getting a little too excited about the possible GG" haha

[@davidovics92]

do you even timestamp, dude?

[@letmelick]

@@davidovics92 1:02:12

[@davidovics92]

@@letmelick thanks

[@thenatanrizzolopes]

Reynor fell to the pressure, that's for sure. Serral wouldn't lose a single game, lost to few mistakes or maybe jusy "luck" on the other side. No matter what, Serral is a beast. All hail the king!

[@RuanHuysen]

The Korans are going to have to work very hard for a win at Blizcon. These guys are awesome.

[@DaReaperZ]

I think Amricans will have it harder.

[@lordofthebeltsthereturnoft1127]

Serral won 7 times in 2018, but only 3 times so far in 2019 and there is only one big comp left. Serral actually hasn't been as dominant in this year. My guess is that if he has to face at least 3 high level Koreans, he will lose to one and won't win the comp. I don't expect Reynor to win. The Koreans won every WCS global finals until 2018 when Serral won it. I think they are going to come in ready this time in 2019 and beat him, after all the Koreans in 2019 have already managed to beat Serral quite a few times. This year SoO beat Serral, Innovation beat Serral and Stats beat Serral as well. That all being said, even if the Korean players believe they have learned how to beat him, I still think Serral has a very realistic chance of winning the WCS global finals next month. But it won't shock me if a Korean wins. This makes the game more interesting, than seeing Korean vs Korean, at least Serral as a non Korean truly is a challenge for them and is a struggle for them to beat and Serral at the end of 2018 was easily the best starcraft player in the world, he may still be the best in 2019 as well, if he wins the tournament next month then I would say he is still the best in the world. If a Korean beats him then I would say he is no longer the best in the world.

[@Zeuts85]

@@lordofthebeltsthereturnoft1127 Serral dominated the Koreans in GSL vs the World this year, which is basically the same thing. I don't see how you could predict he'll lose to any of them when recently he hasn't even been threatened by them. He beat TY 3:1, Trap 3:1, Classic 3:1, and ironically, Elazer in the final 4:2, and Elazer made it to the final by playing out of his mind and wrecking multiple top Korean players. I'm not saying Serral can't lose, but he's definitely _favored_ against anyone in the world.

[@AdmiralBison]

many complaining Zerg are OP, while at the same time not ever willing to credit Serral's skill level, achievements/matchups and consider the Korean scene.

[@KrossFire330]

Yeah that's the thing. If Serral had decided to choose any other race when he first started playing the game, he would still be #1 today. The guy is just an insane combination of speed, intelligence, and skill. The faction he plays as is almost irrelevant when you talk about balance because he's such a freak of nature.

[@RodelIturalde]

Zerg late game is an issue though. Neither Protoss nor Terran want to go late against Zerg. Blizzshould nerf Zerg late game and maybe buff the early game a bit if needed.

[@AdmiralBison]

RodelIturalde again, no mention of Serral’s skill as he shines in a late macro game and Maru as a Terran owning the Korean GSL scene.

[@frostymourne]

RodelIturalde remember.. Serral actually picked Terran and won his home country’s tournament.

[@exnihilonihilfit6316]

@@KrossFire330 You somehow forgot to add good old hard work + big-time deliberate learning + persistence. You cheapen his amazing achievements by making it as if it was just some gift of nature, "talent". Maybe read/listen to "Talent is Overrated" by Geoff Colvin.

[@СветланаКарягина-е8ъ]

What, single lost battle on entire championship? This is "wow".

[@MrGrim-ck7qj]

It's a record. 16 - 1. Never been done before.

[@wirayapradnyadaka3227]

Would love to see how hyper aggressive Serral fares against AlphaStar's godly blink stalker micro.

[@RodelIturalde]

Serral is more reactive and passive imo. The few games I see, he usually plays passive and reactive to get economical advantage and often takes the game late.

[@3v1lp1ngv1n]

8:39 "Serral is UwU whelming him"

[@IAmTheSpruceMoose]

Gotta love a Terran and a Protoss casting a Zerg vs Zerg final. Where's Catz?

[@danconser6709]

Serral is the Perfect Zerg!!! The embodiment of Abathur!

[@danconser6709]

"Look at flesh, see only potential. Strands, sequences, twisting, separating, joining. See how it could be better. Eat flesh, splinter bone. Inside me, can touch it. Weave it. Spin it. Make it great."

[@Dexter-xw3hd]

he is the overmind

[@atrudokht]

@@Dexter-xw3hd only Broodwar players know about Overmind, don't expect new comers to know this

[@danconser6709]

WOW - CRAZIEST GAME 1 EVER!!!!!! Serral, think it through, and BOOM!?!?

[@davidward1661]

Seriously Serral is on a different level

[@melosjaha8897]

These commentators are the greatest thing.

[@dugarii007]

never seen SC2 this intense!

[@MH-tr4kn]

Reynor uses 2 zerglings to scout, Serral uses one

[@olgoodwin]

That was bold :D

[@ConradoSalinas]

58:27 Reynor's soul screaming...

[@anguc9672]

But every game people have enemies but serral is so alone in this sc2 era poor him

[@curtishsiung5979]

Reynor has taken a few very big tournaments from Serral and Serral himself has some very high words for him. They're not quite the same in terms of consistency and strength, but I'd say that the Zerg King (Serral) isn't too bored with the little Zerg Prince (Renyor) running around.

[@lordofthebeltsthereturnoft1127]

Serral already lost 3 times to Koreans this year and he also has lost to Reynor as well this year. Sorry but pretending that 2019 has been like Serral's 2018 just isn't going to cut it. He has done a lot worse this year than last. Either he has become lazy and worse, or people have figured out strategies against him after looking at his games. There is only one major tournament left this year and Serral has only won 3 tournaments, but in 2018 he won 7 tournaments and no one could touch him, he just burst onto the scene pwning everyone basically. But it isn't exactly like that now, now he is struggling more.

[@LeafyPeach]

@@lordofthebeltsthereturnoft1127 still the best

[@Zeoridian]

When he lifts the trophy he was like, when can I put this thing down?

[@exnihilonihilfit6316]

"Oh, no - exercise! :( " :D

[@demacry]

I think this could have been a perfect tournament for Serral but bringing those queens and fighting right before +1 was uncharacteristically over-aggressive. An incredible series all the same. Can't wait for Blizzcon.

[@javiercruz5481]

Raynor is the 2nd best Zerg in the world right now and the player with the best personality

[@lordofthebeltsthereturnoft1127]

He hasn't had enough matches yet to determine that. He versed Dark 2 year ago and lost to Dark, he hasn't versed Rogue, he hasn't versed SoO etc. Reynor needs to get matched up against these guys and beat them and beat Dark in a rematch to be considered the second best Zerg in the world. But because he hasn't faced these guys in high level comp and is still in the early phase of his career, I wouldn't say that we can call him the second best Zerg. But you see with Serral we can call him the best Zerg, because he has defeated all of the Korean Zergs in high level competition.

[@temari1602]

Seral got those killer eyes after the first game.

[@rocksparadox]

Something is up with the supply. The *soup-lie is LYING* !

[@hineighbor]

Serral needs to play the Koreans again. That might be his only competition

[@jaredhettick1635]

He just sweeps all of the Koreans too, seems like Stats and for whatever reason Reynor are the only people who have a chance at beating him

[@RodelIturalde]

Indeed, there isn't any player outside of Korea that puts up a match against him. It would be so much funnier if he was at Code S then in this WCS b-league.

[@Argumemnon]

Serral OP.

[@SnowkillsGamer]

Serral indubbiamente un mostro, ma il nostro Reynor ha un grande futuro avanti a se! GG

[@ninjanape]

1:09:07 Say "once again" once again for me please 🤣

[@tilmanvogel2387]

Woah, 4 TIMES! How did I not catch that :'-D

[@timmcc6899]

I don't get the argument that Zerg is OP ... The only way they're going to balance this out is if they make Serral take a shot for every map he wins.

[@lordofthebeltsthereturnoft1127]

I don't think one player being really good with one race is ever going to convince starcraft that the race is OP. They only consider a race OP if a large amount of users are winning with them. Basically it means that if the top 5-6 players were all using Zerg, then they would seriously consider that it may be OP and they would make a patch to slightly nerf it. Remember every time there is a super dominant player, the fans watching start claiming the race they are using must be OP. I saw hundreds of users say Terran is OP when Maru schools people using that race. In the 17 premier tournaments of 2017, Zerg only won 4 times. Zerg has been dominant lately though, but it isn't because Zerg became better. It's because Serral and Reynor use Zerg and are new top players.

[@timmcc6899]

@@lordofthebeltsthereturnoft1127 I'm aware of all this. Hence making a joke of turning it into a drinking game ... There's no way everyone is going to be satisfied. I also understand why they nerf the races the top players are winning with too ... Say Serral keeps playing like this for another ... 3 - 4 years ... Its bad for business if zerg constantly come out on top. Sure, its not fair on the player, and certainly not fair on any other zerg players who have to suffer for it, but its good for business if its a mixture of races that come out on top. After all, yeah it was terran on top a couple of years back, but I'm pretty sure they nerfed the reaper just after Blizzcon because of it too.

[@frikky99]

Is there fake cheering in the background audio?

[@fireworks6468311]

Gotta love that Tekken reference

[@JuanManuel-et9kb]

You dont wanna make Serral angry. Your best chance is letting him win the first match.

[@carpetclimber4027]

Zerg look OP in the hands of Serral and Reynor. The race isn't OP. Was the same with Jaedong in SC1.

[@veidro]

no, zerg is OP in this and several previous patches, end of story.

[@Operations1000]

Sure, let's keep making this excuse season after season after season

[@misspurdy27288]

Colonel Xander please explain? Korea seems to disagree. Are terran OP because they’ve been dominant in korea since day 1?

[@veidro]

@@misspurdy27288 pathetic attempt of trolling, try better next time

[@carpetclimber4027]

Colonel Xander So why is Protoss dominating in GSL?

[@Rcoutme]

greatest z vz battle in 1st battle EVER

[@mario_maelt]

awesome game, great commentary!

[@TheCamojorel]

That Tekken reference tho ❤❤❤

[@exnihilonihilfit6316]

What's up with the awful sounds like the ones soccer spectators make on the stadium from time to time during the video? It seems to be added in all videos from this tournament! Like this: 1:00:02 35:28 39:18

[@KayJay85]

There was a Rocket League tournament happening at the same time in the same arena.

[@rayzerot]

Is it just me or was Serral playing the player instead of the match-up after the first game? It seemed to be a similar early-midgame all-in that Serral did the last several maps. Is that something Reynor has shown any weakness to in the past?

[@poochypoachy240]

What style mouse do these two use

[@aemanism]

at least we know, if serral ever retired or die, there will be Reynor to take the throne.

[@Noah-xh4vr]

one of the commentators keeps making meme references and the other one is just like: ... yeahhhh

[@gregbach9581]

Nathanias is the definition of a basement dweller that doesn't know any life outside the internet. He's like 35 years old and thinks constantly spewing memes will make him a cool kid.

[@lordofthebeltsthereturnoft1127]

@@gregbach9581 How is he a basement dweller that lives on the internet if he is working as an e-sports commentator at these large events? I don't think you understand the definition of a basement dweller. Here I will explain to you the definition of a basement dweller, it's someone who lives in their mothers basement on the internet and virtually has no friends or a job. Sorry but Nathanias doesn't fit any of that. I think maybe you are a basement dweller who is projecting?

[@LeafyPeach]

I get what you're trying to say but I don't think it's applicable here.

[@lordofthebeltsthereturnoft1127]

Next is the big tournament with the 700,000 dollar prize pool. I wonder if Serral will be able to win it. I think the Koreans are going to come in hard on that one, and Serral hasn't been as dominant this year as last year. For example Serral won 7 tournaments last year, but so far he has only won 3 tournaments this year and there is only 1 left. I get a weird feeling that he will lose to a Korean in this upcoming WCS global finals.

[@thundersmoke88]

When are the 2019 global finals?

[@ericharwood1047]

Maybe Serral's real name is Ender.

[@zen23ish]

I just came here to rewatch Serral own Reynor like he should have the last time... Satisfied, will watch again later. And like always.... Serral would have won.

[@robinbramke7004]

xDDD

[@exnihilonihilfit6316]

He "shouldn't" have won last time. The best should have won. And he probably did.

[@Iceberqe]

The best thing about ZvZ is seeing those pesky zergs finally get a taste of their own, annoying OP medicine.

[@jimbolee6380]

One loss in the entire tourney? Disgusting...'you're so alone Serral..' *in Amon as Selendis voice*

[@capsuleboy]

Man, he finishes all 4 wins in less than 10 minutes. How can you fight that?

[@sergioqueirolo149]

Tema de inicio ?

[@MistaTurdburgerz]

Insane What did i just watch

[@MistaTurdburgerz]

Serral: but i don’t drink lol

[@eurekachan2688]

What is that sound like if was people shouting? I been hearing it the whole tournament.

[@inhumanepie1]

Serral is unbelievable :O

[@jrthailand8982]

“Not every voice matters.” -Blizzard

[@ToraoTakabe]

Especially those from Hong Kong.

[@sirdabsalot2087]

People whine that zerg is op, yet all the statistics say they're far from op, serral and reynor are amazingly skilled players, for example he smashed neeb due to his own mental faults not because protoss sucks 😐

[@wheelndeel5472]

People have been crying in the yt comnents since wings of liberty. And its mostly people who either dont play the game or are bad at it themselfs.

[@Operations1000]

Sure, let's nerf Protoss some more please.

[@sirdabsalot2087]

Nobody said nerf protoss my friend

[@Operations1000]

@@sirdabsalot2087 It was sarcasm, all Blizzard seems to do is nerf Protoss no matter what. Meanwhile...

[@ekothesilent9456]

operations1000 meanwhile its Zerg that has the fewest tournament wins and the fewest finalist appearances

[@DavidTh30]

Best Zerg match

[@kztempus]

you must see rouge vs dark at the gsl semi final

[@wheelndeel5472]

I dont remember who it was but serral beat some korean fellow with the exact strat exept that time he had mutas and the other guy had the corruptors.

[@AdmiralBison]

I think it was Dark. Serral beat Dark’s Corruptors because of speed and good use of quicker health regeneration even though corruptors are far tankier.

[@miguelmondragonb95]

Unstoppable... The hunger. The anger. The cunning. The swarm

[@miguelmondragonb95]

He seemed like he would finally crack, but from the gap came nothing but teeth and claws

[@guachingamer8095]

Serral.😏 una vez más q veo como ganas bro.

[@AaronDebski]

amazing players. amazing plays. but zvz is the most boring.

[@desjardinsfamily5769]

The roach cheese is real.....

[@kaihenri8357]

What's happening?

[@Trubripes]

another day another zvz grand final.

[@ekothesilent9456]

Trubripes it’s about time too. Having them have the fewest lifetime tournament wins and lifetime finalist appearances.

[@MGPL_]

SPOILER ALERT Serral KOed by champagne

[@PapuGuapu]

Z v Z in a final again? What a surprise O:

[@Markfr0mCanada]

Is he old enough for that bottle?

[@exnihilonihilfit6316]

He's 21 and a half so... even in the USA it would be legal to wet his mouth with it. :D

[@junnibeib]

More Zombiegrub.. less Todd

[@あると-p6e]

those who use zerg, they might evolve

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

"disco bloodbath!". 🤣🤣

[@professorquack]

lol camera worker called gg 1:02:05

[@zen23ish]

Yeeeeeea!! Serral...

[@ariammarinho486]

Serral é um monstro

[@zealous944]

zvz finals. didn't see that one coming l:[

[@GreenestGanja2]

Nerf fungal and zerg will never make it this far, let's be honest.

[@wananewcom3026]

3:45 what makes reynor cancel ranged upgrades? OvO

[@ekothesilent9456]

Wan Anewcom the number of lings he scouted made him think he was being all-inned. He canceled the upgrade likely for an extra queen or extra lings to defend.

[@residentmanager4507]

match 4 was a massacre

[@GreatestTeamTheWorldHasSeen]

My zerglings love Protoss Terran tears

[@MrBigCookieCrumble]

_Reynor here!_

[@FNK915]

Serral!!

[@jenesuispasbavard]

Lol another ZvZ final. But Protoss still OP!!!

[@Alinc739]

Sotala 1

[@da_huska]

Zerg win again, what a surprise....

[@Oyashio202]

Watch GSL if you want to see regular zerb stomping, lol.

[@da_huska]

@@Oyashio202 zerg stomps everything especially Serral, watch GSL, I watch it but if there were Serral and Reynor we would've had a ZvZ final again and again, that's because zerg is the most unbalanced and most op race from the 3 races

[@jenarogonzalez1048]

@@da_huska That's incorrect. Serral is just so good of a player that he makes Zerg feel OP. You'll get the same feeling when a player on Serral level plays another race. He made Reynor look like a joke and he on a league of his own too.

[@inczegabor8062]

Not Zerg, but Serral win again. GG for it. He is just so talented and wicked whit his own apm skills.

[@ekothesilent9456]

Yeah yeah do you say the same thing when neeb wins consecutive tournaments? Or when Maru sweeps all of Korea year after year? No. Your sarcastic opinion has almost no validity here.

[@MrBluman999]

LIBERATE HONG KONG

[@justinjones3326]

Zvz final how shocking.....

[@asura2545]

They should nerf protoss and terran. Zerg is just underpowered in the moment. No early game, by far weakest late game... there is virtually no representation of Zerg in competitive games... As a zerg main it's just disheartening to know my race can never be good. Thsnk you Blizzard

[@da_huska]

ZERG WEAK RACE, ARE U 3 YEARS OLD KID OR WHAT? OR SOMEBODY HIT U IN THE HEAD, WHAT THE *** IS THIS JOKE THAT ZERG IS WEAK RACE UR NOT OKEY BRO!!!!!

[@evadereckless7308]

@@da_huska you must be 3 or English isnt your first language lmaoo

[@veidro]

That's some very weak trolling

[@evantaylor2883]

bg wooooooooooooosh

[@misspurdy27288]

Evade Reckless r/woooosh

[@MrAvatarlm]

✌️🇮🇹😎

[@rosscherry6055]

I haven’t followed sc2 in a while, what happened to dark innovation etc? Those guys aren’t the best in the world any more?

[@y0ima0wn]

Serral beat em all and is number one

[@exnihilonihilfit6316]

They are in the Korea 'part' of the Starcraft world. :) It's South Korea vs. the rest of the world.

[@victorhbrasil]

WTF this game 1, ahhaahaha

[@alexanderlolillactas9843]

Dejen jugar a (life) el los haria mierdad a todos ,,,,,

[@JESUS-cv5nn]

JESUS CHRIST LOVES YOU, R.E.P.E.NT OF SIN AND CHANGE YOUR WAY OF LIVING

[@Choconuss]

its not that player is better!! ZERG is just a cheap brkn race

[@viewersforme839]

NEXT MATCH UP LEAK, INNOCENT PROTESTERS VS A LOADED GUN

[@splashbeats_]

lol spoiler zerg wins

[@mrdaym]

1:02:56 what is this? A hug? Disgusting human customs.