RGJ Trains Update and a health question

[@janetlewis7145]

Good advice to check with your MD, if you have a pacemaker or other medical devices before using any electronic device. You don't play with Mr Electricity. Once apon a time in working in an electrical box, my pliers slipped hit a live wire and melted a notch in my pliers. Fortunately , I wasn't hurt. Bill and Janet from California

[@RGJTrains]

ouch not good, yeah just erring on the side of caution is all Bill

[@delphjunction1168]

Hi R&G. Well done with the warning, great to be confident and safe with the equipment you use. Got full confidence in you Grace with the reviews, even if you don't say barred right.☺️ Nice guys. Thank you. Thumbs up thumped 👍 .... Pete....

[@RGJTrains]

Thanks Peter, a fair question was asked so we just want to get a right answer

[@janetlewis7145]

Grace, in your product review.1, Do not be swayed by others who have already reviewed the product. Regardless of thumps up or down. 2, Clearly explained the product's advantages and limitations. 3,Don't bad month simulator products made by other companies. Bill and Janet from California

[@RGJTrains]

No i’ve done it from my own heart and thoughts, not for the company, or anyone, if i did a fake review, i think it would come back and bite me to be honest

[@janetlewis7145]

@@RGJTrains You are right it would . Bill and Janet from California

[@thegizmobuilder4442]

You can have some fun with electrics, but you are right to highlight the dangers. Great work😊

[@RGJTrains]

Thanks Ian, we had the question raised, so only fair to respond

[@bramelsheretan]

looking forward to this review, here's a few pointers * Use the product. * Include pictures or videos. * Share your opinion about the product. * Describe whether or not the product was what you expected. * List the product's pros and cons. * Focus on the product.

[@RGJTrains]

Thanks buddy hopefully we’ve done right by it

[@trevorveail]

A few years ago I bought a Fridge magnet from a wild life cafe in one of my local parks. It came with a warning not to get the strong magnet near to pace makers. If this warning is on a Beaver fridge magnet then I would take care if I had any implants.

[@RGJTrains]

I do get the warnings, which is why we asked and spoke about it

[@RGJTrains]

plus yes, some are actually activated and deactivated by magnet

[@quiteabigdog7031]

Hi both,love your episodes

[@RGJTrains]

Thank you SO much, that’s really appreciated

[@ModelRailwayShed]

Looking forward to the wws reviews dont worry Grace you will be great 👍

[@RGJTrains]

Fingers crossed Deano, someone’s actually already complained withniht seeing it, saying they won’t watch a channel that’s only about revenue, because as we all know youtube makes us all rich 😂

[@ModelRailwayShed]

@@RGJTrains ignore the hate mate I know it's hard sometimes Rob

[@RGJTrains]

Nah we know, to be fair first time in a while we’ve had one 🤣

[@mysticrailroad]

i hope you are able to find some no-holds-bared info on the applicators! :)

[@RGJTrains]

Lmfao, we’re gonna get some mileage out of this 🤣

[@TimberSurf]

As an electrical designer, protection from shocks is an important issue in my life, the ability for electricity to harm or kill, is the power involved (in kilo Joules) and the duration. Any voltage below 50VDC or 30VAC is safe, however, above these values can produce produce danger. It is accepted that current below 10mA is also safe and at 30mA, it may be harmful but not lethal, (hence we generally fit 30mA RCD's to British circuits). However, it is also known that those with a weak heart (weather unknown or if already been fitted with a pacemaker) may succumb to ill effects below these figures. In the case of static charges, they are usually a vey high voltage, but extremely low current and therefore should not be detrimental to the heart, those generated from vehicles, shuffling on carpet and static applicators fit in to this category. However as mentioned above, those with a weak heart, being (not average) may well suffer differently to a static shock, so should take precautions. It is not recorded that a static charge has ever killed (a human) someone, but studies have shown that dogs with pacemakers have actually died when shocked with a static charge. The following gives a good insight. creativeloafing.com/content-197734-the-straight-dope---can-static-electricity-kill. It is also known that triboelectric signals (static discharges) may account for mysterious over-sensing by unipolar pacemakers. So if you wear a pacemaker or have known heart weakness issues, steer clear of static applicators. For those who do not have a pacemaker and have not been diagnosed with a weak heart, you takes your chances!

[@RGJTrains]

Yeah which is why we needed feedback Timber so we don’t just right comments off, playing fair for all, but thank you buddy

[@mikehebdentrains]

There are different types of Pacemakers/implants. I have one - mine maintains a minimum heart rate of about 58bpm. With each implant you get a registration card, regular checks by a clinical team and, usually a monitoring system. Yes, we're generally warned to stay distant from induction currents / magnetic fields but if we want to query specific devices we can ask the team. The advice is often just 'don't get it too close to the implant' (keep at arms length or waist level) With some devices a strong magnet stops the device from working - and some devices then emit a high pitched alarm to advise this. (Mine doesn't - I've been scanned in a MRI with it). I was told that most devices will simply reset once the problem is removed. Generally - as regards any shock: there are two contact points, one where the current enters the body and one where it leaves it. the shock travels between those two points by the path of least resistance, usually internally. If you have surface burns at those points, there will be associated burns all along that path. If anyone's that worried, get some insulated work gloves and wear them! Hope that helps :) Mike Disclaimer: This is not medical advice! Ask your clinicians.

[@RGJTrains]

Thank you so much Mike that’s really appreciated especially being so in-depth, i guess people need to play it safe really,

[@momandsontrainrailfans]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@RGJTrains]

loads of love x

[@peteduncan-um4kx]

not nice probably the most fun you can have without breaking your arm ) nice haircut by the way I've got one just like it! you might have noticed I've been lurking a bit tonight, just seen the one where you was doing the hill with the cheese grater, I've got loads of Polly styrene knocking around waiting to be used or Ill end up looking like a berried alive hoarder. seen the clip of your palls layout in progress can help thinking I acquired the right gauge of newspaper kiosk its Just slightly over an inch squared. pretty tiny!

[@RGJTrains]

Just go for it Peter, making mess is half the fun lol, it’s not just about running trains, which we tend to do, and then decide to change things, but the building of it is the best part i think

[@peteduncan-um4kx]

@@RGJTrains I will get on with it, i'm contemplating creating a scene from my 12th floor flat window & balcony there's a bridge over the river the a viaduct heading into town so its pretty flat around here with countryside and town plus the trains heading to the steel works from the power stations and lorries over the m180 just surrounding hills in the far distance & no mountains, im more of a buildings and farms scene thinker. call me old fashioned but I just bought some UHU glue! haven't seen that for yonks until i watched your pals vid!

[@RGJTrains]

Oh we love the UHU it’s got a lot of uses on the track, and cheap too

[@jeremynorman1330]

Fame at last...and such a lovely lady to welcome me

[@RGJTrains]

Ahh your welcome Jeremy and thank you

[@peteduncan-um4kx]

yeh I know the pain you mentioned, i was once in the process of screwing a spark plug into a scooter when my idiot mate decided to kickstart it!

[@RGJTrains]

It ain’t nice is it Peter, not deadly but sure as hell ain’t nice

[@andyt741]

back in the day my oldman worked installing electric substations and big transformers all round europe, he's got plenty of stories of people being blown 20/30 feet into the air, one in particular when they were electrifiying the underground in london of a fella that threw a open dc switch which took most of his hand off when it arked, iv'e seen a electrician blown across a plant room whilst working in a 3 phase 400v ac cabnet, even when i was 11 or 12 ish my mate had a plug with no back on it, he tried to uplug it got a shock and flew across his bedroom out the door, that one made me laugh alot though🤣, the thing with electrickery is be very careful cos you don't see it til it bites🧐

[@RGJTrains]

Oh yes, whilst being hit with less voltages than that, i still can say it hurts lol

[@Mav_at_Pwll-Y-Ddraig]

So where do I begin...🤔 Ok, advice for the review - DEFINITELY wear the yellow dress! Viewers will be less likely to notice any errors. Oh, and just be you, be real, warts and all. Thats how we love you so don't try to be false. It's 'No holds barred' The holes should be bared ideally but not on a live stream (What am i saying??) You and your flocking sheep! Jeez, you just love flocking sheep don't you, nearly as much a Rob does! You pair of dirty flockers! As far as letting you both know of any errors you make, we just don't have the time to write them all down! SO we take it easy on you and laugh from the safety of our own rooms. Woah betide you if you ever did a show in front of a live audience lol 😆Brilliant stuff guys. This live had me giggling all the way through 😋 Cya both tonight on the live. Oh and to anyone reading this, I'm not trolling them. This is just typical of the banter particularly on a Saturday night Live stream so why not come along and either join in or just lurk in the background and enjoy the full experience 😆

[@RGJTrains]

lol don’t worry, we’ve already had a troll reply tonight 🤣

[@allanmorton6022]

You don't need to be paid to use the YT flag, just sending you stuff still counts as a contribution. It's just a flag that appears before the video plays.

[@RGJTrains]

Yeah we’ve clicked it just to be safe Allan

[@hotdogpilot6319]

Try this; www.emftesting.net/will-static-electricity-affect-my-pacemaker/ As an example, Bernie of crossway's point was told by his nurse not to use the machine... he went ahead anyway. Clinical fogging machines use static charge, my wife's colleague has a pacemaker and was told under no circumstances use the machine... that's good enough for me.

[@RGJTrains]

Brilliant thanks buddy that’s appreciated