Rhodey Has Been A Skrull Since WHEN?!

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Phase Zero

Phase Zero

11 ай бұрын

Today on Phase Zero, we are tackling one of the more serious mysteries uncovered in the season finale of MCU's Secret Invasion...mainly the reveal that Rhodey, AKA Warmachine, AKA best friend of Tony Stark may have been replaced by a Skrull for so long...that he might not even know of Tony Stark's death yet.
So just HOW LONG was Rhodey actually replaced for a Skrull...and what MCU movies and series would he have appeared in as an imposter? Find out as we do the digging to uncover this Marvel mystery right now, on Phase Zero!
#mcu #skrulls #rhodey

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@AlexanderTheBloodraven
@AlexanderTheBloodraven 10 ай бұрын
That’s it. They did the impossible. They’re destroying both Infinity War and Endgame.
@Skepticminecraft
@Skepticminecraft 10 ай бұрын
You’re right, out of every character in Infinity War and Endgame, you think that it is ruined because of one character I’m joking, I kinda agree with you how Rhodey developed his character only to be an alien
@Skepticminecraft
@Skepticminecraft 10 ай бұрын
But Rhodey got captured after Endgame so it isn’t that bad
@azeemabrar9252
@azeemabrar9252 10 ай бұрын
till now we don,t know is it after civil war or post endgame I hope it is after endgame if not it won,t be good and I am pretty sure fans might not like it so i hope marvel reveal that it is after the events of endgame.
@jonathansandoval9885
@jonathansandoval9885 9 ай бұрын
@@azeemabrar9252after Endgame. The blood is a give away
@JesusPerez-wl3ii
@JesusPerez-wl3ii 8 ай бұрын
Id love to see a War Machine film that delves into Rhodey's emotional turmoil realizing he wasn't there when his best friend needed him the most. This could create a fantastic film that isn't just another superhero film and be also a very human film. Kinda like the Black Panther films which is why they are among the best, if not the best, Marvel films. Him visoting Tony at his grace a few times. Feeling more inadequate and having to not fully overcoming it yet, but able to move forward and begin to overcome the loss of so much time and his best friend as well as the loss of Black Widow, who he also remembers. And no, not a show, a film. You can do it all justice in a single film. Just bring back those who worked on Civil War and Black Panther to make this film. But it'll never happen. Poof
@Andreabr77
@Andreabr77 11 ай бұрын
He was bleeding red in Endgame
@yoda3341
@yoda3341 10 ай бұрын
Ross was bleeding red until he turned into a skrull
@stunseedbackwards1947
@stunseedbackwards1947 10 ай бұрын
​@@yoda3341ah yes just like other skrulls who bled red then turned violet in just seconds in the series right?
@XeroGaming934
@XeroGaming934 10 ай бұрын
Ever here of a retcon
@junit318
@junit318 10 ай бұрын
@@XeroGaming934ever here of shitty writing
@ANTONl027
@ANTONl027 10 ай бұрын
@@XeroGaming934what’s that
@christianknight727
@christianknight727 10 ай бұрын
It’s definitely one giant retcon
@S_Scaling
@S_Scaling 10 ай бұрын
Yeah you don’t pay attention when Tony died the fake road he didn’t even cry or act sad he just looked around
@JohnDoe-gt3jr
@JohnDoe-gt3jr 10 ай бұрын
​@@S_Scalingreally? That's the evidence? Kind of sounds like grasping at the straws
@Nemenis
@Nemenis 10 ай бұрын
@@S_Scalingtypical MCU fan
@bilbobeutlin3319
@bilbobeutlin3319 10 ай бұрын
​@@S_Scalingnpc
@stealiestag4204
@stealiestag4204 10 ай бұрын
​@@S_ScalingRhodes was in the military, he has seen and lost friends before Tony, he can endure and control his emotions.
@gsauce874
@gsauce874 10 ай бұрын
Man this is the black hole of the plot holes
@WalteRxBlacK
@WalteRxBlacK 10 ай бұрын
😂
@ibrahimahm3d
@ibrahimahm3d 10 ай бұрын
They just threw that in😂
@samarthruhella5906
@samarthruhella5906 9 ай бұрын
Yea there are skrulls everywhere at MCU's earth and literally everyone is a skrull.
@sim949
@sim949 5 ай бұрын
yes as talos said . millions . all of 'em are here on earth ​@@samarthruhella5906
@redbearddan2000
@redbearddan2000 10 ай бұрын
If Rhodey is confirmed to be replaced with a scrull in Infinity War and Endgame, it will be a huge middle finger from authors to his role in these big events
@chill_notion
@chill_notion 9 ай бұрын
Plus, it means there was a Skrull on Thanos' empty retirement planet... so Secret Invasion's entire premise is f**ked
@barbodx9957
@barbodx9957 8 ай бұрын
@@chill_notion I don't understand the importance of that can you explain?
@chill_notion
@chill_notion 8 ай бұрын
@barbodx9957 the premise of SI hinged on Nick Fury (and Carol Danvers) not being able to find a world for the Skrulls to make their new home. In Endgame, Danvers reconned "the garden" (as Nebula called it) and found it completely unpopulated except for Thanos himself. It would have been perfect for the Skrulls, and Skrull Rhodey was there to see it for herself.
@barbodx9957
@barbodx9957 8 ай бұрын
@@chill_notion ooooh yeah I saw one review where they mentioned that. I didn't watch the show cause apparently it's a waste of time
@chill_notion
@chill_notion 8 ай бұрын
@@barbodx9957 good call
@chrisquarrie
@chrisquarrie 10 ай бұрын
We need to all pretend like this just didn’t happen. Like Eternals. And Inhumans.
@barbatos673
@barbatos673 9 ай бұрын
wait there is a Marvel movie called Inhumanes?
@adalindenau5035
@adalindenau5035 9 ай бұрын
@@barbatos673 it didn't happen
@ddemons4730
@ddemons4730 9 ай бұрын
@@uncensored393 personally I liked Quantumania
@uncensored393
@uncensored393 9 ай бұрын
@@ddemons4730 they made the big bad look like a big bitch - he's supposed to be the next Thanos, the one we need the Avengers to group up and fight in some epic war after the humiliation of our team as they try to take him solo. Instead, they gave us some guy who couldn't beat a weakened Ant-Man.
@conman_yt7999
@conman_yt7999 9 ай бұрын
@@uncensored393 I understand most, but the fact Wakanda Forever is on there and The Dark World isn't just feels like blasphemy
@EliasWolf77
@EliasWolf77 10 ай бұрын
Damn so the Killing baby Thanos joke hits differently
@piot1
@piot1 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@Orange-inkling
@Orange-inkling 10 ай бұрын
That skeull was mad
@Erohimu
@Erohimu 9 ай бұрын
Best fockin comment ever 😂
@famos6536
@famos6536 9 ай бұрын
That was the real Rhodey 😅
@blinkenschnaag777
@blinkenschnaag777 Ай бұрын
Green pointy eared alien was planning to kill a purple alien 😂
@blackholerainbow3029
@blackholerainbow3029 10 ай бұрын
This retcon needs to be retconned immediately!
@BETA00009
@BETA00009 5 ай бұрын
It’s funny because it’s not even a retcon it’s just a straight up plot hole
@TheLastSamoan
@TheLastSamoan 10 ай бұрын
And yet the skrulls kept on cutting his hair and shaving his face this whole time...
@amareswarmishra6870
@amareswarmishra6870 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@chill_notion
@chill_notion 9 ай бұрын
They also had a Skrull on Thanos' retirement planet..... so how tf could they not find a new homeworld
@strideredz
@strideredz 10 ай бұрын
Somebody get Rhodey a cheeseburger
@allkindz6792
@allkindz6792 9 ай бұрын
Happy, where you at?
@JohnSkao
@JohnSkao 9 ай бұрын
hhhmm this IS a tasy burguer
@oneupnerd
@oneupnerd 8 ай бұрын
That is why we don't treat modern Marvel as cannon, they don't know what they are doing anymore.
@Castor990
@Castor990 5 ай бұрын
W 100%
@timebolt8836
@timebolt8836 11 ай бұрын
That was definitely Rhodey in Endgame no doubt, so Im guessing since then
@doctorslayer2106
@doctorslayer2106 10 ай бұрын
Yes he is cause he was really taken right after endgame or spiderman no way home.
@Smokescreen__
@Smokescreen__ 10 ай бұрын
The real Rhodey made the joke Thor: Do you know what’s coursing through my veins rn Rhodey: Cheez-it’s? The real Rhodey has a sense of humor like that
@jediguardianaka6202
@jediguardianaka6202 9 ай бұрын
I agree
@TheMaskedPablo
@TheMaskedPablo 8 ай бұрын
Plus, he still had a limp, if I remember correctly, skrull rohdey didn’t limp at all
@jasonwynn8053
@jasonwynn8053 8 ай бұрын
Rhodey was switched before Tony Stark’s funeral. The suit of armor is not available because the government has it.
@richielopez6601
@richielopez6601 10 ай бұрын
After the funeral in end game… Rhodes has on his mechanical leg braces ever since civil war up to the funeral …. Then in captain America and the winter soldier tv show he does not wear his mechanical leg braces
@commanderowen
@commanderowen 10 ай бұрын
Yes we’ve established that. Your comment adds nothing
@anakinskywalker1141
@anakinskywalker1141 10 ай бұрын
That means the Rhodey that was talking to Sam in TFATWS is a Skrull. Idk about endgame, but it was definitely Raava
@Lidoe
@Lidoe 10 ай бұрын
@@anakinskywalker1141 Or his leg could've just healed like normal legs do...
@anakinskywalker1141
@anakinskywalker1141 10 ай бұрын
@@Lidoe no we literally saw in secret invasion that Rhodey’s legs still haven’t healed
@ICHIMANExTKND
@ICHIMANExTKND 10 ай бұрын
@@LidoeIt’s Not His Legs That Needed To Geal Stupid.! He Damaged His Spine That Doesn’t Just Heal.. Smh..
@HUARASTACA
@HUARASTACA Ай бұрын
After endgame is another universe, nothing counts
@jrhulkyolo2105
@jrhulkyolo2105 26 күн бұрын
Bro I’ve had this theory ever since Loki. Question is, when in the timeline did Loki give everyone free will? I’m pretty sure everything after endgame has strayed away from the main timeline. Which is why Spider-Man messing up the multiverse, maybe miles too, doctor strange, scarlet witch. Well we think they are ruining the multiverse as of right now but what Loki is doing right now should be stopping them from causing a lot of harm. So mile’s problems can be fixed, Peter’s problems, stranges problems too if you really think deep about their predicament. Especially Spider-Man and miles. Only thing stopping them from their goal is the risk of causing damage to the multiverse.
@thedozeecloset
@thedozeecloset 11 ай бұрын
It sure looks that way but I'm hoping the Skrull switcheroo happened Post-Endgame
@SuperJ-zv8uw
@SuperJ-zv8uw 11 ай бұрын
I kinda like the Idea that Raava ( the skrull pretending to be him ) actually cares about Tony after being in disguise for many years but then when he died she had to look out for her people
@kptmaci4979
@kptmaci4979 11 ай бұрын
It is said in the show itself that skrulls started replacing people in government ONLY after endgame. Because thats when Fury willingly left them and went to space without a word so they felt betrayed, cause he ran away from his promise. They couldnt blame Fury for being dusted, but him coming back and leaving them by his choice? The show clearly states that this was event that madw Gravik hate Fury
@darthsidious1158
@darthsidious1158 10 ай бұрын
me too
@ICHIMANExTKND
@ICHIMANExTKND 10 ай бұрын
@@kptmaci4979Lotta People Only Hear What They Want Too.. There Was No Motive For Raava To Be Rhodes Before Endgame At All.. They Weren’t Even Mad Then..
@Skepticminecraft
@Skepticminecraft 10 ай бұрын
@@darthsidious1158didn’t think that a Sith Lord would agree
@jasonwynn8053
@jasonwynn8053 11 ай бұрын
In case you didn’t know Endgame is the only answer 😂
@anakinskywalker1141
@anakinskywalker1141 10 ай бұрын
Wdym
@navonmyhand7999
@navonmyhand7999 10 ай бұрын
​@@anakinskywalker1141think they're saying it only makes sense if Rhodey was replaced after Endgame
@anakinskywalker1141
@anakinskywalker1141 10 ай бұрын
@@navonmyhand7999 that’s true. Most people think Gravik started his thing after the blip
@johnycraft7665
@johnycraft7665 10 ай бұрын
Ngl they kinda fucked up the storyline if they actually continue with the story about rhodeybeing skrull since civil war. It ruins rhodey's whole character tbh
@user-xz3pb3dt2u
@user-xz3pb3dt2u 10 ай бұрын
​@@johnycraft7665If they really wanted Rhodex to be a Skrulč they very well could have made him be a Skrull from VERY BEGINNING. Atčeast that wouldnt completely destroy his character since civil war
@justfilms9077
@justfilms9077 9 ай бұрын
Haha what an innovative idea! Love the part where we retcon two movies worth of character establishment to have a reveal that means nothing! Please do more of that!
@REaDComicsau
@REaDComicsau 11 ай бұрын
That would mean he’s been one for ten years which is a bit much. I hope the real Rhodey was in Endgame because it’s my favourite movie. But let’s hope Armour Wars makes this clearer and easier to accept.
@XeroGaming934
@XeroGaming934 10 ай бұрын
In secret invasion the skrulls invaded a lot longer
@lsi597
@lsi597 10 ай бұрын
Hint : skrull blood is green. Now watch endgame
@XeroGaming934
@XeroGaming934 10 ай бұрын
@@lsi597 ...... Retcon dude
@DalePWhyte
@DalePWhyte 10 ай бұрын
Personally, I think it would have made more sense to have the switch happen between Iron-man 1&2. He showed up with a new face god-damn it
@YesYou-
@YesYou- 10 ай бұрын
His legs are FOREVER BROKEN. In endgame he almost dies cuz his suit broke and he was crawling cuz of his legs. He even tells rocket to leave. rhodey was ready to die. U think a dam skrull is gonna risk his life in those circumstances to stay being a human with broken back and legs???😂😂😂he’d just use his skrull strength and get tf outta there. As for the gown AGAIN his legs and back are broken. Obviously he has to go in and out of therapy sessions without the braces. He’s a veteran of war that’s the only place and time the Skrulls could capture him without a fight.
@AngelFernandez-bf9rx
@AngelFernandez-bf9rx 11 ай бұрын
I know they are movies and tv shows but damn! His best friend dead, paralyzed from the waist down, on ice for 10 years. Steve Rogers didn't have to go through half as much. On a positive note Don Cheadle will get to act the F*** out of this role when Armor Wars comes around. That is if the studios ever pay these people a fair salary.
@medix1203
@medix1203 4 ай бұрын
They get paid more for a maximum of a year of work what you will make in your entire life, your wife (or husband) and children all make in their life time.... Actors are well paid
@Geraldo_Rivian
@Geraldo_Rivian 10 ай бұрын
The real switcheroo happened to all the MCU leadership, writers and others involved in phase 4
@FoamyADC
@FoamyADC 10 ай бұрын
Now the line “And where the hell have you been” from Rhodey to Captain Marvel in endgame makes more sense
@junit318
@junit318 10 ай бұрын
No it doesn’t, stop trying to cope
@thesweatbaron8443
@thesweatbaron8443 10 ай бұрын
Yeah nah it doesnt at all
@aileenvazquez3658
@aileenvazquez3658 9 ай бұрын
I've been looking tor this comment
@mrminecraftcubeable
@mrminecraftcubeable 5 ай бұрын
Makes less sense beause captain marvel says "there are other planets" and rhodey backs down, but he shouldn't, skrulls should hate her more than fury
@_-_LEGEND_-_
@_-_LEGEND_-_ Ай бұрын
When he said heartbreaking. My youtube popped up, "Time for a break" 😅
@chaddusgeneralpythor8665
@chaddusgeneralpythor8665 10 ай бұрын
so you’re telling me both rhodey and nebula were imposters
@copierguy5000
@copierguy5000 10 ай бұрын
He had leg braces in endgame, he was taken after the funereal. No leg braces = skrull.
@darthsidious1158
@darthsidious1158 10 ай бұрын
makes sense to me
@CommanderBacara
@CommanderBacara 28 күн бұрын
just poor writing...he was already perfect during civil war til end game but they decided to ruin him
@subteeninhumansamuraiamphi5019
@subteeninhumansamuraiamphi5019 10 ай бұрын
He hasn’t been a Skrull since civil war…the skrulls didn’t start taking over until Fury decided to leave for sword and not come back.
@dmed312
@dmed312 8 ай бұрын
Disney's Response: Shut up, and eat your popcorn!
@ianpg9891
@ianpg9891 Ай бұрын
They might’ve intended this to mean he’s been a scroll since Civil War, but they’ll definitely retcon it seeing the reaction it’s gotten and say he was just in a hospital gown
@ChristianHernandez-yt
@ChristianHernandez-yt 4 ай бұрын
In Endgame, he briefly mentioned his idea for the Avengers to go back in time to kill baby Thanos. Sounds pretty dark, even for a war veteran.
@NeoCarl29
@NeoCarl29 10 ай бұрын
Doesn't make sense, the skrulls are still sided with fury at that time
@localcritic4490
@localcritic4490 10 ай бұрын
Giant sized after thought retcon!
@ifakerr8369
@ifakerr8369 10 ай бұрын
He was wearing braces in IW and EG. Armour Wars will surely clear it for us all 👍🏾
@specialagentorange4329
@specialagentorange4329 10 ай бұрын
Not going to see it
@ICHIMANExTKND
@ICHIMANExTKND 10 ай бұрын
@@specialagentorange4329Why Did You Have To Say That.? And Why Are You On The Video Reading Comments If You Have No Interest In It Anymore.?
@pizzaparkerhotdogmaguire3225
@pizzaparkerhotdogmaguire3225 10 ай бұрын
​@@ICHIMANExTKND Because people have the right to express opinions. You're not supposed to only agree on everything. Get rid of this cult mentality
@glocki6655
@glocki6655 8 ай бұрын
@@pizzaparkerhotdogmaguire3225Lmfao it was just corny chill out
@RIZLERGX7
@RIZLERGX7 24 күн бұрын
I’m hoping Rhodey wearing the hospital gown at the end of secret invasion was just the creators trying to throw us off on when he was abducted, because from falcon and the winter soldier to secret invasion is the only time we’ve seen Rhodey without his leg braces, showing that he was probably abducted after endgame
@MattMoore1
@MattMoore1 8 ай бұрын
In Secret Invasion they confirm that Gravik didn't start his plan until less than a year ago. Aka, Rhodey got replaced recently. Its not a stretch to think the Skrulls didn't want one of their prisoners to have what is essentially bionic legs.
@lovebooks7160
@lovebooks7160 11 ай бұрын
Omg they ruined all the serie with all that twists
@cameronclophus7998
@cameronclophus7998 9 ай бұрын
You'd think a Skrull would mention the planet Thanos was on to the others so they could migrate there
@semiistayautomatic6802
@semiistayautomatic6802 Ай бұрын
for me the mcu ended after endgame
@benmiller232
@benmiller232 10 ай бұрын
This is why I just like to think that the real story ended at endgame
@ryanRosenblatt
@ryanRosenblatt 3 ай бұрын
There was a pretty big scene in Endgame where Rhodey was kicked out of his legs and couldn’t walk and we see the skull was able to walk without them also he bleed red in the battle of Earth. It would have just made sense if he got replaced right after Endgame
@hiitsalex6780
@hiitsalex6780 10 ай бұрын
So did all who got capture during the switch get snap as well?
@JustGlizzy
@JustGlizzy 8 күн бұрын
Can we all forget that Secret invasion ever happened
@warriorking0723
@warriorking0723 5 ай бұрын
I'm not convinced that rhodey was held prisoner since civil war.
@Jamie_Winsh
@Jamie_Winsh 29 күн бұрын
100% feels like a retcon. They obviously didn't have this predictable reveal planned for years and even in SI, Rhodey was acting a bit strange and offish to fury etc but in endgame he was completely in character, cracking jokes n everything
@Polaroid9367
@Polaroid9367 Ай бұрын
Imagine hes being captive since Iron Man 1 and the og actor comes back 💀
@oblivionCyc10ps
@oblivionCyc10ps 8 ай бұрын
I wonder if all this is why Armor wars has taken so long because timeline wise it wouldn’t work.
@morgfeatures
@morgfeatures 16 күн бұрын
He’s wearing the bionic legs in Infinity war and endgame..
@gottabouncebro447
@gottabouncebro447 7 ай бұрын
If that’s true. Then that undermines the emotion when he watches Tony die.
@Shinransa
@Shinransa 10 ай бұрын
If that's the case it creates so many plot holes and completely ruins his presence in those movies. Tony's death and funeral with the knowledge his friend is an imposter is just bad especially since they clearly didn't plan ahead for this and Rhodey looks to be genuinely grieving. Also he acts out of character in Secret Invasion, he jokingly threatens to put on the suit and bomb a country just because the prime minister rolled his eyes at him during a UN meeting which is just extreme for Tony's friend and sounds unprofessional for the real Colonel James Rhodes. Also Gravik's plan seems to have been set in motion after Nick Fury gave up on helping the Skrulls which would be after Endgame and I don't think he would've planned to replace Rhodes before then.
@GarManarnar
@GarManarnar 4 ай бұрын
In Endgame Nebula said something along the lines of "look out Rhodey, there's an idiot in the landing zone". Then he sees Scott and says "What's up regular-sized man?" almost like he remembers the fight at the airport and is like playfully squaring up to him. Like "oh look who's not big anymore". He wasn't a Skrull in Endgame unless they're suggesting he also was in Civil War.
@manfromwuhan5876
@manfromwuhan5876 10 ай бұрын
Skrulls bleed blue we see Rhodey bleed red blood multiple times even in the battle of earth he was not a skrull they didnt plan this phase they just decided to retcon it to move the plot along which leaves enormous plot holes. The gown has also been debunked he wears white gowns during his treatment and he was rescued wearing a blue one.
@AKASHECHOPHY
@AKASHECHOPHY 10 ай бұрын
they bleed red until they transform back to their original form...they can copy every detail of the form they take... do some research yourself...i might be wrong tho
@manfromwuhan5876
@manfromwuhan5876 10 ай бұрын
@@AKASHECHOPHY uhm no they don't lmfao even in the show they bleed blue even when the Brit lady was torturing a skrull his blood was blue either you incredibly slow or you just wanna rationize some of the bs plot lines the series left out
@hu45stuff24
@hu45stuff24 10 ай бұрын
@@AKASHECHOPHYwhen skrull Rodey got shot in the head in human form it was purple not red
@iceman7157
@iceman7157 6 ай бұрын
​@hu45stuff24 because he died. Skrulls bleed red until they suffer a mortal injury.
@lilshokan
@lilshokan 8 ай бұрын
Its gotta be a retcon. Hell this would throw away thatvone little nugget of dialog he and nebula had in end game
@mcgamer4474
@mcgamer4474 9 күн бұрын
New Rockstars made a good point that it could of been after end game, he could of went in for an Operation to fix his legs which is when they swapped. So the skulls removed his leg braces for going into the containment pod. Which also explains why the new captain America asked about his legs in the deleted scene for falcon and the winter soldier
@netshark512
@netshark512 10 ай бұрын
Are they not claiming Hawkeye been banging a Skrull too? This is going to far.
@rexblade504
@rexblade504 Күн бұрын
Definitely one massive retcon
@elwoodr563yt6
@elwoodr563yt6 28 күн бұрын
Nope. He got taken sometime before Falcon and Winter Soldier. You can tell because Rhodey doesn’t have his braces at Cap’s memorial.
@nicholasong2892
@nicholasong2892 10 ай бұрын
I think he was replaced after endgame. He was unable to walk without his suit or leg support tech in endgame as well. I'm not expert, but I'm pretty sure they needed medical attention after that battle. He cpuld have been replaced then.
@TeejR18
@TeejR18 10 ай бұрын
He didn’t seem to heartbroken when he saw Tony die so that sort proves it more
@user-oh9se4lu2k
@user-oh9se4lu2k 5 ай бұрын
Yes that could be possible but some other factors to consider are maybe when he struggled to walk after his surgery. But it would make sense, in Secret Invasion, he was walking without any mechanism to support in legs.
@viratomithach6521
@viratomithach6521 12 күн бұрын
The real rhody was in infinity war and endgame bc he had his leg braces and could not get up to save rocket during the flood ,now the skrull rhody is say happen around the beginning of falcon and winter soldier
@sriramrex3774
@sriramrex3774 6 ай бұрын
When Rocket asked 'who are not been to space before', Rhodey didn't raised the hand soon like Cap & Nat... And he also said 'he didn't done anything good in his life' to Nebula... But he is not been a part of the girls army joined to help Carol to reach the quantum tunnel... 🤣🤣🤣
@boerhoden5185
@boerhoden5185 10 ай бұрын
I think it was between civil war and infinity war because he wasn’t wearing the leg brace. In endgame he didn’t cry at all so most definitely he’s a skrull. Confused how he was bleeding in endgame.
@cboehm24
@cboehm24 9 ай бұрын
I think we're on our way to a giant retcon, yes.
@shermansmith8356
@shermansmith8356 11 ай бұрын
It's a retcon but he didn't behave like an imposter. That's the whole point of taking someone's identity.
@liamcrowley4621
@liamcrowley4621 11 ай бұрын
but wouldn’t you say he behaved like an imposter in those final secret invasion episodes?
@shermansmith8356
@shermansmith8356 11 ай бұрын
@liamcrowley4621 Yes. It seems like he was starting to slip.
@liamcrowley4621
@liamcrowley4621 11 ай бұрын
@@shermansmith8356 that’s my point - we obvi we looking for the signs after we knew, and it became obvious. but I would argue his behavior in IW / Endgame was exactly the Rhodey we knew, zero breadcrumbs. which to me is why it feels like a retcon rather than a long term choice. there are ways to make retcons feel natural (Krennic’s seat on the Death Star empty in A New Hope), this didn’t feel like that to me
@digitalfantasies4570
@digitalfantasies4570 10 ай бұрын
@@liamcrowley4621 he was replaced with a skrull after endgame, in endgame he wears his leg braces in captain america and the winter soldier he doesnt, meaning he was swapped out sometime inbetween endgame and that show
@Unorthodox_K1NG
@Unorthodox_K1NG 3 ай бұрын
I think he became a skrull after endgame maybe for an appointment checkup.
@user-px4lw6ur7t
@user-px4lw6ur7t 19 күн бұрын
Its probably heartbreaking for rhodey to find out his bestfriend sacrified himself in endgame
@alexn7903
@alexn7903 8 ай бұрын
I think it was just a overlooked plot hole. For example, Everett K. Ross was replaced by a Skrull, but how were they able to find him since at the end of Wakanda Forever he went into hiding with Okoye?
@geogambi1460
@geogambi1460 9 ай бұрын
When Rocket asked, who here hasn't been to space. He hesitates to raise his hand.
@YoungVeeTV
@YoungVeeTV 6 ай бұрын
He looks completely different from Iron Man 1 😂😂😂😂😂 maybe he’s been a Skrull since then
@georginaobrien3219
@georginaobrien3219 10 ай бұрын
He was bleeding red in endgame and they could have taken his leg braces so he could not walk and so they could look more like rody
@BigBoyViola
@BigBoyViola 10 ай бұрын
I’m wondering if a skrull such as Talos (or maybe Talos’s wife) took over for Rhodey between Civil War and through Endgame. Then for some reason that Rhodey was replaced with Rava after Endgame. This could mean that people like Tony Stark and Nick Fury could have known that Rhodey was a skrull since Civil War (maybe they intentionally put the real Rhodey into that stasis machine so they could keep him alive). This would also account for most of Rhodey’s character growth in endgame and specifically his moment with Tony at the end. Thoughts?
@createtoday5278
@createtoday5278 5 ай бұрын
That explains the nebula and Rhodey scene in endgame when neb says "i wasnt always like this" and Rhodey says "me neither"
@piczelkay
@piczelkay 7 ай бұрын
My dad and I both figured this out within a minute :D
@andrewcummings7832
@andrewcummings7832 22 күн бұрын
I thought he was skrull from the trailer, I can never imagine Rhodey giving sass to Nick Fury of all people
@qasperr994
@qasperr994 10 ай бұрын
He could have been getting a colonoscopy or something when he was taken.
@JH_PRIME
@JH_PRIME 6 ай бұрын
Maybe he could remember peter or no?
@rahilameer1094
@rahilameer1094 10 ай бұрын
They haven't planned out all movies and scripts for the next few years. They are going with the flow. This s proof
@Kayoss13212
@Kayoss13212 10 ай бұрын
If anything, I feel like post IW or EndGame makes more sense. Because I feel like after the Snap in IW or after people coming back after EndGame, that’s the perfect time to start implanting agents in places of power. During all that chaos. Especially on a larger scale.
@TLAIG
@TLAIG 4 ай бұрын
He stopped wearing the leg braces in *Falcon And The Winter Soldier* showing that he’s not Rhodey
@anujkhanna2428
@anujkhanna2428 6 ай бұрын
Disney has gone insane.
@TheDustifiable1986
@TheDustifiable1986 6 күн бұрын
So one...I haven't seen secret war so I could be wrong. But I know the director really didn't say it's cannon, just what he believes. I don't want it to be true but think about it... that skrull probably bonded with the avengers. And I think that's a neat concept
@MoustafaAbdelghani-gb1lw
@MoustafaAbdelghani-gb1lw 2 ай бұрын
At this point let's consider secret invasion isn't canon at all
@idk._.666
@idk._.666 7 ай бұрын
That skrull saved the universe, felt sad when Tony died. :0 What a kind skrull
@RealHajimeHinata
@RealHajimeHinata 4 ай бұрын
Yeah Raava was awfully committed to her job lol.
@itsthegr8matt
@itsthegr8matt 10 ай бұрын
Bro they couldn't have planned for Rhodey to be a Skrull all that time. Movie studios are concerned with one script at a time. So since Captain America CW. The actor played the actual Colonel Rhodes. Secret Invasion producers just couldn't come up with anything better, which given the fact that this show was co-produced by Samuel L. Jackson is totally fine. We all have limits.
@ipryan5843
@ipryan5843 3 ай бұрын
He was replaced by a Skrull when his paralyzed in civil war
@drizzo4669
@drizzo4669 7 ай бұрын
its a total retcon purely for the purpose of setting up Armor Wars. His anger at the state of Tonys legacy will push him to the edge.
@the503creepout7
@the503creepout7 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Marvel Studios! i hate it. But let's be honest - Endgame was a pretty much perfect way to bookend the first 3 MCU phases. After that, it's been an absolute barrage of MCU content(a lot of it streaming series) & there's been way more misses than hits imo. i was a big fan of what the MCU did over the first 3 phases & enjoyed following the shared universe they'd built. The amount of a-list stars, all the crossover, & the planned out arc by Fiege was truly something unaccomplished in cinema previously. But i simply had to give up on the MCU not long after Endgame. i just can't keep up with what feels like never ending formulaic mass produced fast food entertainment. It's kinda like... i love a good cheeseburger, fries, & a shake but i don't wanna have to eat a cheeseburger, fries, & a shake for every meal all year long. It's time for Marvel to scale it back a bit, focus on quality rather than quantity.
@RAMBO-mu2zm
@RAMBO-mu2zm 10 ай бұрын
Everything as gone down sense endgame and now they have found away to make it worse well done guys 👏
@sienasach1878
@sienasach1878 3 ай бұрын
I think he was changed out after endgame or something because his blood was red and the skrulls could have just removed the brace when they took him.
@jayvonnoelsmith8445
@jayvonnoelsmith8445 5 ай бұрын
So is Rhodey really a scrull now
@ironladgaming3649
@ironladgaming3649 4 ай бұрын
Bro how can a skrull bleed red and and the suit Tony built for him can only be worn by real Rhodey and don't you think they couldn't have taken leg braces to make it look real , like skrulls don't fully become a person they imitate one , second if Rhodey was a skrull Nick furt would have already killed him, as he found out in like 5 mins in secret invasion, so it's not possible he could have been a skrull in endgame
@robertthikkurissy8435
@robertthikkurissy8435 10 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t he have had a beard if he was gone that long. Unless the skrulls shaved his face every week.
@dlrldnjs04
@dlrldnjs04 6 ай бұрын
I definitely sure he want to kill all scrulls, when he knew death of his friend...
@sdk-yourfriend1561
@sdk-yourfriend1561 9 ай бұрын
ok how did they pee and poop al this time if skrulls had held them captured this way?
@taufansukarno2054
@taufansukarno2054 6 ай бұрын
After the funeral in endgame, because when in the falcon & winter soldier, he didn't use his robotic leg
@shazprothero7912
@shazprothero7912 7 ай бұрын
but that also means when Captain America and co turned up at Avengers campus in Infinity War looking for help it was Skrull Rhodey who stood up to the General for them
@darkrl591
@darkrl591 5 ай бұрын
That is impossible, the bad guy in Secret Invasion was still under Nick Fury after the events of Endgame, cleaning up their DNA after the battle. There would be no need to replace important people back then because the secret invasion hasn't started. It's during Falcon & Winter Soldier that the invasion most likely had already begun and that Rhodes was replaced. That being said, Secret Invasion clearly wanted to allude that he was replaced in Civil War which only showcases the incompetent writing that the show has only for a "clever twist". (Fun fact: When asked when Rhodes got replaced, the shows director said that they weren't sure and that fans must keep guessing because that's fun, but like... isn't that his job to reveal?)
@MisterJWJ71
@MisterJWJ71 18 күн бұрын
Retcon....or the writers just weren't paying attention to what happened before Secret Invasion.
@joseholguin6000
@joseholguin6000 5 ай бұрын
Real war machine when he founds out what happened to Iron man beast mode
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