Rich Eisen on How/If the College Football Playoff Can Fix Its Blowout Games Problem

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@jahnvantuttlesma8215
@jahnvantuttlesma8215 Күн бұрын
We got three good quarterfinal games (1 classic) with only one blowout (which happened to be the most anticipated game). There isn't a crisis like many are suggesting.
@RobertLopez-yx3co
@RobertLopez-yx3co Күн бұрын
One classic? I assume you're referring to the UT-ASU game. From the punt return TD until the 4th quarter, that game was garbage. So there have been ZERO classics.
@adamredden2007
@adamredden2007 Күн бұрын
​@RobertLopez-yx3co WTF do you want? Games are played, and they happen how they happen. Jfc
@Johnrl21
@Johnrl21 Күн бұрын
We have had one decent game. The rest have been subpar at best.
@Elite67ty
@Elite67ty Күн бұрын
What games did you watch?
@Johnrl21
@Johnrl21 Күн бұрын
@@Elite67ty ASU/ Texas ended up being the only good game. The rest haven’t been very good.
@BigTimeGG
@BigTimeGG Күн бұрын
Hasn't college football always been filled to the brim with blowout games? The problem is the talent gap between teams, it's not an even playing field.
@ShimmyD-u7g
@ShimmyD-u7g Күн бұрын
Exactly, massive talent gaps. College football has always been about the few haves and the lots of have nots. It's why we see Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Ohio State, etc every year in the top. It's not the NFL with a draft and a salary cap. Instead its pure capitalism, and even more so with the recent uncontrolled free agency that is the NIL and transfer portal. I'm glad they have a playoff, maybe we will see a Cinderella story of some smaller school go the distance. Probably not, but now at least there is a path.
@DawgPoundStoner1252
@DawgPoundStoner1252 Күн бұрын
Explain the talent gap between Ohio State and Oregon or Tennessee I'll wait
@AdamsGoingGhost
@AdamsGoingGhost Күн бұрын
Yeah no not at this point. If Alabama is playing Tennessee tech in week 4 you’d expect a blowout, but you don’t expect OSU to put up a 34 point lead in under 20 minutes against 13-0 Oregon. Especially in a bowl game.
@ld4974
@ld4974 Күн бұрын
@@DawgPoundStoner1252 That's exactly why the 4 team playoff was sufficient. Expansion just leads to the big dogs blowing out the other teams.
@anthony.spencer
@anthony.spencer Күн бұрын
tough to have lots of similar caliber teams with rosters that can essentially be as big as the teams want.
@julianwatts9024
@julianwatts9024 Күн бұрын
Why do we act like blowouts are indicative of anything other than one team played way better that day. The nfl has blow outs in the championship games and Super Bowl all the time
@Je-Razor
@Je-Razor Күн бұрын
Exactly. The only solution to fix potential blowout games would be to not have a playoff at all and no National Championship game.
@CompetitionSportsNetwork
@CompetitionSportsNetwork Күн бұрын
100% correct, but guys like Rich, need to create drama so they can have topics to talk about while the rest of us sit here going "ok Rich"
@bradytom5468
@bradytom5468 Күн бұрын
All the time in the last 2 decades??? Only Carolina v. Denver comes up.... are u still living in the 80s or 90s???
@toddcunningham3213
@toddcunningham3213 Күн бұрын
​@@bradytom5468 2021: TB 31 KC 9 2014: Sea 43 Den 8 2010: NO 31 Ind 17 2003: TB 48 Oak 21 2001: Bal 34 NYG 7 I don't necessarily consider 14 points a "blowout", but you mentioned Carolina Denver which was also only 14 points. 24-10.
@Lonely.Chrome
@Lonely.Chrome Күн бұрын
@@toddcunningham3213blowouts to me are really when games are out of 2 possessions. So essentially 17+ leads are blowouts but then again you have to go and look at when that team when up 17+ bc that doesn’t mean the whole time the game was out of reach
@GENOTALKSCOMICS
@GENOTALKSCOMICS Күн бұрын
There are two points that often get lost in this conversation: 1. The match-ups matter. You can have rankings, seeding, win-loss records, conference championships, bye weeks, etc. But sometimes you go into a game where none of those metrics tell the story of 1v1 player match-ups on the field, offensive vs defensive units and each team as a whole. 2. Sometimes, it just isn't your day. Just as Dan Lanning said after they lost. College football coaches, players, fans and media know that well.
@kyledabearsfan
@kyledabearsfan Күн бұрын
rankings are part of the problem, we shouldnt have a system that gives a pre-season ranking that weighs as heavy as it does. But, regardless. This season isnt really different, people just crying more.
@TyForReal5
@TyForReal5 Күн бұрын
I agree on those points. The one about the bye week is absolutely a valid complaint, though. You should get a competitive advantage if you finish 1-4. These teams currently get the benefit of playing a hot team while they sit for 25 days. That is actually criminal and is a reason all 4 bye teams got beat. Seed 1-12 off the CFP final rankings for better matchups and actually reward 1-4 by having home games in the 2nd round with a shorter rest period.
@GENOTALKSCOMICS
@GENOTALKSCOMICS Күн бұрын
@@kyledabearsfan I agree about the rankings. I like individuals making their own rankings preseason or early on. It's great for conversation and coverage and to see different people's reasoning. But there shouldn't be any official ranking for at least a month into the season.
@kyledabearsfan
@kyledabearsfan Күн бұрын
@@GENOTALKSCOMICS oh, i dont disagree about the crowd draw, i think it weighs far too heavy on the season. How often do we see teams in the top 10 at the beginning of the season completley drop out. I agree, at minimum it should wait til after the first week after we at least have some (admittedly) arbitrary details.
@GENOTALKSCOMICS
@GENOTALKSCOMICS Күн бұрын
@TyForReal5 Even as a Buckeye guy, I think Oregon got screwed by the design. So I'd have no problem with re-seeding. And I like having playoff games on campus. Great for the schools, fans and the sport overall. The one piece I'm brainstorming is how does the bowl game system get reworked to gel with having home games. You could remove the bowl games from the playoff system entirely. Then the concern becomes having less than stellar match-ups in once top tier bowls. A lot of people are agreeing on the Rose Bowl being a great site. Could make that the national championship game.
@RandomYNG
@RandomYNG Күн бұрын
This year is exactly why the sport needed an expanded playoff. Without it, the best team in college football wouldn't have made the playoffs. A 4 team playoff is too subjective
@benclemens5311
@benclemens5311 28 минут бұрын
Penn State and Texas were both ranked in the top four though, so yeah they would have made it with a four team playoff, just sayin’. I do agree with you, I like the expanded playoffs better (I think they should have capped it at 8 though).
@gregjross852
@gregjross852 Күн бұрын
If the 12 team didn’t exist we wouldn’t have gotten Texas vs ASU. Media making things a big deal that aren’t.
@kyledabearsfan
@kyledabearsfan Күн бұрын
yeah just fan bases crying because they didnt have a good year, nothing has changed
@Tommy9834
@Tommy9834 Күн бұрын
I don't see what the issue is. Blowouts happen in a sport. The only way to prevent a blowout is to have fixed matches.
@broadnerdmike6450
@broadnerdmike6450 Күн бұрын
Absolutely. Plus this is some BS bias against smaller schools. If the big schools got blown out they wouldn’t be asking all these questions.
@aswerty911
@aswerty911 Күн бұрын
Yep. If they want less blowouts, ok, the underdog gets to play at home. THen they'll cry that's not fair!! But the better team plays at home and smashes the underdog, well something's wrong!!! LOL
@sladebygaming
@sladebygaming Күн бұрын
This year is still better than anything we've seen in the past and has a ton of room for improvement. I think the biggest area of improvement is the regular season. I think the lopsided games are a result of how little is determined from teams mainly playing in meaningless games all season. Most weeks there are 1-3 games featuring 2 ranked teams.
@chadturner7653
@chadturner7653 Күн бұрын
I think this season was one of the best seasons across the entire nation in every conference I have seen. Every team from about 1-8 in each major conference had a real chance to win each week. And a lot did. I like seeing that much talent and coaching come into the game.
@sladebygaming
@sladebygaming Күн бұрын
@chadturner7653 Too many teams filling out the schedule against weak opponents still and seemingly those weak schedules increased chances to get into the playoffs.
@kyletucker3811
@kyletucker3811 Күн бұрын
Dont have teams wait a month to play, dont force your TOP 4 SEEDS to play neutral sight games while others get to have home games for having worse records, and dont artificially boost the seeding of teams so the team that worked the hardest to have the best record has to face one of the best teams in the tournament in its first game after a month off.
@johaw105
@johaw105 Күн бұрын
Corporate America has to ruin everything as much it possibly can
@beckayshaw6083
@beckayshaw6083 Күн бұрын
You’re right. Get rid of the extra time when they could be playing. Also top 4 teams should get a home playoff game. Only semi final games and natty should be neutral site
@markosekulic119
@markosekulic119 Күн бұрын
Isnt bye week better then playing home? I really dont understand why is problem in college bowl but not in nfl?
@beckayshaw6083
@beckayshaw6083 Күн бұрын
@ all 4 of the bye week teams lost to the 4 teams seeded lower than them who got to play a home game the week prior
@markosekulic119
@markosekulic119 Күн бұрын
@@beckayshaw6083 that happened this season. You need way bigger sample size for any comparation .
@1971kona
@1971kona Күн бұрын
In The last 6 years, national championship games have ALL been blowouts. The closest game was 33-18 back in 2022.
@chs_ambs8356
@chs_ambs8356 Күн бұрын
Yeah. That was total hypocrisy not letting Florida State in last year, then turning around and giving Georgia no. 2 this year.
@robert2k9
@robert2k9 21 сағат бұрын
Lol it was 12 teams in the field unlike 4 teams from years past. Arguing this point is ridiculous
@samplautz5586
@samplautz5586 15 сағат бұрын
Not really. Florida state proved that they weren’t ready when Georgia beat the crap out of them
@Mmmmmk247
@Mmmmmk247 6 сағат бұрын
Georgia beat Texas after losing their QB, a much harder opponent than Louisville, however I agree because consistency matters
@robert2k9
@robert2k9 6 сағат бұрын
@ The criteria changed. Auto-bids for conference champions were a result of that change. Consistency has nothing to do with these two different situations folks keep trying to compare.
@outta_the_blue
@outta_the_blue Күн бұрын
The goal of the playoff isn’t to have close games. While it’d be nice, the goal is to find ONE deserving winner
@xiaxi
@xiaxi Күн бұрын
Nah. The goal of the playoff has and always will be to make the most $$$ possible for the committee.
@knutearmstrong5252
@knutearmstrong5252 Күн бұрын
The old playoffs and new years six were full of blow outs. The point of the expanded playoff is it will help level a recruiting gap and make more competitive games in future years
@Pcbdude82
@Pcbdude82 Күн бұрын
Glad to see some people here have brain cells. You'll always going to have blow outs. But thus system needs time to cook. And it's already working. Because 2 of the 4 teams left, were out of the 4 team system. And frankly Texas should have been out of refs did their job.
@mosart7025
@mosart7025 Күн бұрын
Will it level it if the smaller schools don't have the money/visibility that the big schools have? And what's to keep a guy that you pay a million at your school if another school offers him 2 million?
@Johnnyhamcheck1
@Johnnyhamcheck1 Күн бұрын
@@mosart7025those smaller teams wouldn’t have competed in the past either.
@grobble8954
@grobble8954 Күн бұрын
THE CFP expansion has nothing to do with closing recruiting gaps, it's about money. Other levels of fball have has a playoff for 40 years. FBS schools only wanted it when they were shown they can make more money than standard bowls. FYI. the gap is most likely going to get wider b/c of NIL directly from schools under the new rules coming and the NIL collectives are suing to make sure they have no regulation. NIL collectives(booster groups) are just going to pay kids whatever to come to their school. If a kid goes to G5 or a not so high profile power conference school, and say they have a good freshmen year, they will be paid to transfer to the big schools with deep pockets and massive NIL collectives.
@danielrutstein2316
@danielrutstein2316 Күн бұрын
Funny the new format would’ve been amazing if conference realignments never happened
@bigbadjohn7053
@bigbadjohn7053 Күн бұрын
Reseed the 2nd round based on pre playoff ranking. If that were done this year, Oregon vs Arizona St, Georgia vs Boise St, Penn St vs ND, and Texas vs Ohio St. You can even the top 4 conference champs a bye week, but seed them appropriately.
@BiggieTrismegistus
@BiggieTrismegistus Күн бұрын
I think the top 4 conference champions getting a bye but reseeding the second round based on the final playoff rankings is the way to go.
@alwaysplaythegame
@alwaysplaythegame Күн бұрын
Reseeding is fine, but you still have the problem of how those seeds are decided. You have Ohio State as a low seed but they were the #1 per Vegas (and probability of winning).
@ChosenPlaysYT
@ChosenPlaysYT Күн бұрын
We’ve seen national champion games that are 30+ blowouts. NFL playoff games are 20+ points all the time. March Madness has 30+ blowouts every year. People are way overreacting to this year’s CFP.
@Foggydidwhat
@Foggydidwhat Күн бұрын
The difference is that with the 12 team playoff format, the 5-6 teams that can actually win the natty from the preseason knowledge dwindle down to whatever number of teams that can actually win the natty at the start of the post season. (Using this year for reference, the realistic preseason contenders were Oregon, Texas, Georgia, Ole Miss, Alabama, Ohio st, and ND. 2 of them missed the playoffs, which is fine. But now there was a 12 team playoff that (if someone only knew the teams in the playoff and did not know how easy some paths were), only had 4-5 realistic teams that could string multiple quality wins together to win it all (Oregon, Texas, Georgia, Ohio st, and ND). Now with 4 teams left, 3 of the preseason/postseason realistic contenders are left, with the final spot attained to a Penn St team that got to play 2 G5 teams in SMU and Boise st to get to the semis (if given the Penn st playoff path, it is highly likely that 75% if not all 4 teams in the eliminated teams from the other bracket half consisting of Oregon/tenn/asu/georgia would have resulted in a semifinal birth (not to take credit away from psu for handling business against way lesser competition)). I agree that people are overreacting to blowouts. Since 2000, the 68 team playoff format for college basketball and the BCS/4 team playoff format for college football have resulted in the same amount of different schools winning the national championship. More playoff games does not mean the lesser teams actually have a chance of winning the national championship, it simply increases the chance for upset early on.
@michaelknapp8961
@michaelknapp8961 Күн бұрын
I’m an Oregon ducks fan and I think the lag time before games is way too long. The last time Oregon played in a game before OSU was December 7th. January first is almost 3 and a half weeks later. That’s too long of a wait. The committee has to make some changes with that.
@scottwerner279
@scottwerner279 Күн бұрын
Dude, byes are statistically good for well coached teams. Was ASU rusty? Or did the Bye week help a well coached team game plan for a really talented Texas?
@a.p.5906
@a.p.5906 Күн бұрын
Coaching and preparation is the key. Oregon's coaching and preparation was poor.
@silastodd2668
@silastodd2668 Күн бұрын
Ohio State played Tennessee 3 weeks after Michigan and looked great. Time off isn't the problem
@SOLEFULkinn
@SOLEFULkinn Күн бұрын
No excuses. It’s college also. Still have class to attend. Oregon got hit from start & froze up
@nileswillis7992
@nileswillis7992 Күн бұрын
Nah..rust or not, Ohio State was just better.
@careyfreeman5056
@careyfreeman5056 Күн бұрын
Not just win a home game, but also pocket millions of dollars in revenue and exposure from said home game. I can't believe nobody brings this up. I'd feel cheated with a bye.
@collinsjon13
@collinsjon13 Күн бұрын
"Who's going to look at Greg Sankey in the face and say 'Your team doesn't make it'...?" So you're admitting that the SEC has impartial influence over the selection process? Who woulda thunk it?
@casualarrogance
@casualarrogance Күн бұрын
Thought.
@SenorHomeslice
@SenorHomeslice Күн бұрын
@@casualarrogance Thinkeried
@roris5882
@roris5882 Күн бұрын
No different then the SEC players who aren't allowed to be called for Targeting in the playoffs by the ESPN Playoff Review Officials.
@CompetitionSportsNetwork
@CompetitionSportsNetwork Күн бұрын
Follow the money, the SEC has plenty of it.
@calicojack3628
@calicojack3628 Күн бұрын
Need to get the Bowl games out of the playoff. Playoffs should be in December and only the Championship game being a neutral site game. Oregon should have got a home playoff game.
@t.k.1319
@t.k.1319 Күн бұрын
All I know is Oregon shouldn’t have had to play OSU in the quarterfinals, and the top seeded teams should have had their Quarterfinal games at their home stadiums.
@markosekulic119
@markosekulic119 Күн бұрын
Its Ohio state fault that fell to 8place. Not Oregon. If Ohio state won against Michigan and even lost to Oregon they would be maybe 5,6 place on leader board.
@kyledabearsfan
@kyledabearsfan Күн бұрын
OSU lost thats why they were seeded low enough to play Oregon. Thats a good system. Oregon was just overranked.
@gsmegaphone
@gsmegaphone Күн бұрын
Yeah this whole thing is a non-issue. We fans wanted the 12 team expansion because there were kids that deserved a shot than were previously getting in with a 4 team system. They got that shot this year. Sure, THIS year wasn’t as competitive, but unless that same thing happens year in and year out going forward the next 4-5 years, there is no reason to change it right now.
@AntiMTVMovement
@AntiMTVMovement Күн бұрын
It’s nonsensical to think that we should go back to not having a playoff. The regular season was never a playoff, and it’s nonsensical to ever think it was.
@keaganmusic
@keaganmusic Күн бұрын
Top 4 RANKED teams get a BYE and get a home campus game in the QF. Campus games in the First Round and QF (which would be awesome).
@greenlantern7959
@greenlantern7959 Күн бұрын
For a hundred years the “national champ” was ONE team that managed to win all their games. The only surprise so far is Oregon, and they lost to the OVERALL favorite up until the last week of the season. 4-team format, and UGA’s losses and having a backup QB might have left them out under the FSU rule. It’s Oregon, Notre Dame, Ohio State, and then an argument. You’re getting EXACTLY what everyone wanted. Unless you’re the SEC in a down year.
@Daniel_Robinson
@Daniel_Robinson Күн бұрын
Respectfully I think everyone is misunderstanding the “FSU” rule. The reason they were left out wasn’t because their qb got injured, it’s because they looked completely lifeless after that. For example, say I left out peanuts and you, allergic, eat them and die. It’s true I directly caused the end of your life, but it isn’t murder, because the real culprit was you eating them. If FSU looked even semi-good after the qb injury, they would have got in, but you can’t disagree they were clearly a much worse team. With Georgia, their qb went down, but they still looked great, so it’s a completely different situation. It’s why I get annoyed when commentators like in this video go “Georgia’s qb went down why aren’t they out?” It’s because they didn’t look like trash and a completely different team AFTER the qb went down. Now I do feel bad for FSU, as despite looking significantly worse they did win their games including the ACC champ, but if you watched that Louisville game you’d understand FSU was nowhere near a top 4 team in the nation
@markosekulic119
@markosekulic119 Күн бұрын
Buddy they played 2 games after loosing qb. Tell me what team has two great qb on their rooster ready set to go? No way would any good/top qb sit a year to be back up. ​@@Daniel_Robinson
@ChristopherMcCloud-y4x
@ChristopherMcCloud-y4x Күн бұрын
@@Daniel_Robinsonthis is crap, FSU had a dominant defense, and proved it was deserving by winning its conference championship. Look at what Verse is doing in the NFL this year. Von Miller once shut down a MVP Cam Newton in the Superbowl. FSU should’ve been in the playoffs last year and these SEC teams that were supposed to be sooooo great, have turned out to be mediocre. FSU was screwed and I hate FSU but can still admit they were screwed.
@alwaysplaythegame
@alwaysplaythegame Күн бұрын
Just make the field 16 teams please. Solves most of these issues and gives us more football.
@kyledabearsfan
@kyledabearsfan Күн бұрын
no it doesnt lol 12 is good enough, there already arent 12 teams that are good enough to be the champion. 16 just becomes stupid.
@asentientroomba8054
@asentientroomba8054 Күн бұрын
Simple format: 16 teams, no byes, top 5 conference champions plus 3 highest wild card teams host. Bring back the BCS (or some variation) for the rankings or go off the AP/coaches polls. Winning a conference should be valued (and will help create parity and avoid the tournament becoming the SEC invitational, which nobody living outside Alabama, Georgia, and Florida wants). Or conversely, make all the games neutral site and give automatic bids to all the conference champions, with seeding based on rankings.
@fmfbrestel
@fmfbrestel Күн бұрын
No conference championship games. No byes, 16 teams. First round on higher seed's home field.
@alwaysplaythegame
@alwaysplaythegame Күн бұрын
This is the way!
@kwall337
@kwall337 Күн бұрын
I was just about to write this. Then for the 2nd round on, all the games would be played in bowl games. They would just have to add another bowl or 2 in the rotation with the existing ones.
@Lonely.Chrome
@Lonely.Chrome Күн бұрын
Can’t get rid of conference championship games lol might as well not have conferences at that point
@kyledabearsfan
@kyledabearsfan Күн бұрын
I think people are crying too much. "blowout" games happen. Its part of football. Even between 2 great teams, maybe one has a bad day. I think its a lot of crying for what weve seen every single year EVER. People need to stop whining.
@Skyvernius
@Skyvernius Күн бұрын
if you want to fully fix the issue of the CFP you'd first have to get all the teams aligned into 4 or 8 conferences that each play the same amount of regular season games leading into a conference championship. That's where the NCAA and CFP selection committee needs to start if they want to minimize blowout games. Otherwise the four major bowls should be for the first four playoff games and if the bowl committee doesn't like it then they can pound sand and not be included in the playoffs at all. The second round should be bye teams home game. Third round the highest seed remaining gets home game. Championship predetermined neutral site.
@TeezyHadaBaby
@TeezyHadaBaby Күн бұрын
I mean not all games across all sports are competitive. We’ve literally seen teams get blown out in superbowls, swept in the finals and eliminated by lesser teams during March madness.
@nathanstruble2177
@nathanstruble2177 15 сағат бұрын
Am I watching the same college football playoffs as everyone else? I feel like I'm not, cause I've seen exactly 1 blowout, meanwhile half of the games have been within 2 scores.
@Alexwns33
@Alexwns33 Күн бұрын
As an ASU fan the bye is a huge disadvantage. The first round winner played 10 days prior, meaning they are both rested and fresh. The bye didn't give us jordyn tyson back all it gave us was 30 days without a game. We got jumped on 17-3 then outplayed texas for the next 3 quarters. We couldn't execute in the red zone, Texas played great redzone d to be clear, but the timing just wasn't there
@maikotter9945
@maikotter9945 Күн бұрын
In the "bye weeks", the teams seeded 1to 4 in the playoffs, could have TEST GAMES, against those teams, not seeded 5 to 12 in the playoffs!
@johnmcho
@johnmcho Күн бұрын
If you want the regular season to matter, reward conference champions with an advantage. It's not hard.
@roris5882
@roris5882 Күн бұрын
So just give them a guaranteed playoff slot.
@kyledabearsfan
@kyledabearsfan Күн бұрын
a playoff spot and first round bye arent enough? what else should the conference champions get? Should we maim any opposition player too? maybe tell the opposing teams they cant run during the game? How many more advantages do the conference champions deserve? lol such a deluded take
@johnmcho
@johnmcho Күн бұрын
@kyledabearsfan Not more. Just keep it the same.
@okapi3202
@okapi3202 Күн бұрын
​@@kyledabearsfanI mean, having a home game for the quarterfinal seems fair for a conference champion. I think it's fair to reward a conference champion heavily.
@sp33dygonzales1
@sp33dygonzales1 Күн бұрын
The teams that get a bye should get home field advantage
@alexramage4840
@alexramage4840 3 сағат бұрын
Or at least let them pick their bowl game. Multiple Bowl trips is a lot of traveling to do. Penn St just played in Tempe, next in Miami, and if they win, they go to Atlanta.
@DK412724
@DK412724 Күн бұрын
Football is unpredictable and fans love it. Who expected Army to win the AAC in their first year? Who thought Indiana would be a top 10 team? ASU was picked finish last in the Big 12 and won the conference, taking Texas to the wire. That's football and I wouldn't change a thing.
@cambodennis
@cambodennis Күн бұрын
It’s not fair to fans that they would have to go to 3-4 road games to support their team. We need more home games.
@alfcmccoy
@alfcmccoy Күн бұрын
Even if it's not what we expected, no one really complains about the NFL playoff because of the way it is structured. If the powers that be(it would have be NCAA but they don't care anymore) should set a structure where everyone can't come up with their own excuses to justify why they didn't like the outcome of the games.
@BackyardAquatics-o2m
@BackyardAquatics-o2m Күн бұрын
i say no bye weeks for anyone, no conference champs automatically getting in, they could even get rid of conference championship games to make more room for the playoffs, bowl games are playoff games or just get rid of bowl games altogether. top 16 teams period by rank. #1 plays #16 etc. etc. top 8 teams get home field advantage in round 1.
@hazegraystudios
@hazegraystudios 18 сағат бұрын
This is by far the biggest improvement we've ever had in NCAA football. Can't we just enjoy it?
@pizzabatman2137
@pizzabatman2137 Күн бұрын
One year is too small a sample, at least that’s what I think.
@jamesjuneau6445
@jamesjuneau6445 Күн бұрын
Saying 7 of the 8 were blowouts shows you didnt watch them, boise vs penn state and texas vs clemson were pretty close u cant just look at the final score
@nickh2935
@nickh2935 Күн бұрын
Problem? What problem is there? Teams are getting exposed and it’s great.
@kyledabearsfan
@kyledabearsfan Күн бұрын
fr, but their fanbases cant take it. None of these scores are out of the ordinary, people just dont like the results. Conferences like the SEC have gotten so much favoritism for so long, people dont believe it when they arent getting sucked off
@CamoJack-v9b
@CamoJack-v9b Күн бұрын
I think penn st should have come to Boise n played on the blue…. We went to the fiesta bowl. It’s an awesome venue…but these bowls games should be reserved for the final four
@johngetz8585
@johngetz8585 4 сағат бұрын
Sure...and Boise should go to State College, in a whiteout, and get mauled.
@kenyattaclay7666
@kenyattaclay7666 Күн бұрын
A couple weeks ago Night Cap did a segment on how important a bye week is for the playoffs and I left a comment saying that this whole bye stuff is way overblown. I got so much pushback and was told I didn’t know what I was talking about. Well, I’ll say it again, this whole bye stuff is overblown mostly because there’s no definitive evidence that it helps or hurts teams. Some teams handle it well & use it to get healthy but with other teams they get rusty. To me it’s like the old adage about momentum in baseball, it’s the next days starting pitcher. What if next year all four teams that get a bye win, then the year after that they go 2-2. Maybe we should see how things play out for a few seasons before talking about failures & changes.
@andrew.van5
@andrew.van5 Күн бұрын
The five conference champions SHOULD get an automatic bid BUT NOT a bye. Then (this might be controversial), I think reseeding after round 1 would be an interesting idea. That way it rewards the teams that are ranked #1 or even #2 more. For example, Oregon would've played the lowest ranked remaining team (idk who that would've been) but it rewards them for their season and they don't get screwed with bad matchups. Just an idea...
@tidmarshXC
@tidmarshXC Күн бұрын
Would've been: Arizona State-Oregon Boise State-Georgia Ohio State-Texas Notre Dame-Penn State
@mikdavfle
@mikdavfle Күн бұрын
Arizona State alum here just to declare my bias in advance. I agree with all of that, but I would give the conference champs a guaranteed top 8 seed, meaning they either get a bowl game or a home game. Also, I suspect this will be a 16 team playoff soon because of what we saw in the first round games and Del Tufo's idea of making the 1st round games bowl games will never be accepted unless every game in a bowl game.
@Pcbdude82
@Pcbdude82 Күн бұрын
For starters. The teams on a bye already got rewarded. They had to play one less game. Amd 2nd. Oregon played the highest remaining seed. Which was Ohio State. So even if you did reseed. Oregon vs Ohio State would have been the match up. Ohio State was seeded where they were because they lost to Michigan. Yeah it kinda sucks Oregon got the short end of the stick. Ohio State took the time to fix the problem. But if Oregon wants to win the national championship. Guess what? They were going to face Ohio State anyways. Whether it was q finals, Semi finals or the championship.
@Pcbdude82
@Pcbdude82 Күн бұрын
​@@tidmarshXCArizona state was on a bye. So no they wouldn't have matched up with Oregon
@andrew.van5
@andrew.van5 Күн бұрын
@Pcbdude82 Your first point is valid. I don't think I made my idea very clear which is on me, but in this fake scenario (taking the top 5 conference champs and NOT giving them a bye) and then reseeding after the first round would've probably put Oregon vs Boise or Arizona State because they wouldn't have been a top 4 seed (in my scenario). And with the reseeding, there could be instances where a team is the so-called 8 seed but for the next round could be the 6 seed based on other matchups and who is remaining. Idk if that made any sense but that's the idea (it definitely would need more clear guidelines).
@jameskingsbery3644
@jameskingsbery3644 Күн бұрын
There's no good way to do a college football playoff system without a deep overhaul of the system. College football still has the system of an amateur competition, while practically being a professional minor league.
@wyattboyer5780
@wyattboyer5780 Күн бұрын
Teams like Boise State and Arizona State don't want the bye. They would prefer a first-round game on national tv they can reliably win. Better exposure means donors and recruits.
@masterflex2349
@masterflex2349 Күн бұрын
First and second round home games then the final four and championship bowl games
@camicawber
@camicawber Күн бұрын
This is a much better idea that moving the New Year's bowl games up to before Christmas. It might require the playoff to start a week earlier, but that feels like a much better idea than moving the New Year's Day bowl games to December 20.
@brians23
@brians23 Күн бұрын
Ohio State had a home and home scheduled with Oregon, I believe the game at Oregon was originally scheduled for 2020 and this was a makeup for that turned conference game
@thecommish1976
@thecommish1976 Сағат бұрын
I really like this format. Love the first-round games on campus. It is almost better to host one of these first-round games from a financial standpoint as the school can rake in a lot more money in terms of concessions, hotels, restaurants, etc. Blowouts are going to happen, and people are going to be upset that their team is out of the 12, but it was good to see schools like SMU, Boise, Arizona State get a fair chance.
@bwcbiz
@bwcbiz Күн бұрын
Before you change anything you have to decide: Is the problem the format of the playoff or that the bye teams were overrated?
@benjymartinios
@benjymartinios 9 сағат бұрын
- Extend to 16 teams - Purely based on top 25 ranking - don’t have a bye week for top seeds - remove conference champions lock into the top 4 - Same amount of weeks, nobody has bye week issues, and the top 8 teams get home field for the first round - then the remaining games are the quarter finals bowl games and semi finals and championship game are all at neutral sites
@nathanaelboyd2017
@nathanaelboyd2017 Күн бұрын
The 12 team playoff worked how it was designed to. The teams with bye weeks just weren’t as good as the teams without it
@alanmartin6436
@alanmartin6436 Күн бұрын
A bye means you can't lose in that round.
@kdhawk02
@kdhawk02 Күн бұрын
The bye-week teams didn't sit an extra week from their last game compared to the first-round teams. It was only an extra 3-4 days (23-24 days vs 20-21). The advantage the bye-week teams have is they only have to win three games to win the National Championship while the other 8 have to win four. That's a huge advantage in football where injuries play a big factor in success.
@nankam
@nankam Күн бұрын
It's hard to make a good playoff format when so many compromises are needed to appease all the conferences, the conference championship games, and the bowl system. I don't see it improving unless the SEC and B1G end up making that super conference one day and decide to do their own exclusive playoffs.
@michaelreilly7106
@michaelreilly7106 Күн бұрын
To make it short, Rich Eisen was not entertained. ‘Are you not entertained?!!’
@DennyJr22
@DennyJr22 Күн бұрын
The bye isn't that big of an advantage. First round teams all received between 10 and 13 days of rest after their first game instead of the standard 7. That's plenty of time to recover and prepare for an opponent. I understand trying to keep big games around the historically big game New Year's Day and Christmas being exactly a week earlier making timing difficult, but making the time between games closer to a week would give bye teams a bigger advantage.
@Outlaw8908
@Outlaw8908 Күн бұрын
Unfortunately it has a companion problem. NIL and the portal have been allowed to create an actual problem. There needs to be new rules that limit tampering, transfers, when transfers happen, a cap on eligibility, and getting exposure to smaller schools so they can compete with the bigger schools. As for seeding problems, bringing back conference divisions, winning the conference, and of course breaking up Super conferences.
@BrandonH321
@BrandonH321 Күн бұрын
Treat it like basketball. Top 5 conference champs are guaranteed a spot, but their seeding is based on talent.
@charliemirus4124
@charliemirus4124 5 сағат бұрын
Just like the NFL, and people wanting to change that playoff with the Lions/Vikings situation this year, there’s no need to change anything. Reward champions. If you’re going to do anything, give the conference champions the chance to waive the buy. If you’re going to change anything, and you give give the top 4 seeds (regardless of conference, etc.), you need to make sure any other conference champs AT LEAST get a home game round one.
@KleyDeJong
@KleyDeJong Күн бұрын
Blowouts in the first round is not a problem. The 1 seed usually blows out the 16 seed in MM. Whoever wins the natty earns it by winning games. Good system.
@adamredden2007
@adamredden2007 Күн бұрын
What problem? You guys are the best out there, and even you insist on making a problem where there isn't one.
@kyletucker3811
@kyletucker3811 Күн бұрын
There's no way to equitably structure the games without getting rid of the conference championship games. The best format I could suggest is this: - First two rounds are on campus games. - the first round begins the week after conference championships - Top 4 seeds get bye's. - Once it's down to 4x teams, you have the games on neutral sites at two of the NY6 Bowls. The highest seeded eliminated teams go to the remaining NY6 bowls. - National Championship Game on Neutral site. In the end, I just think the conference championships need to go. Contrary to what it might feel like, having an actual game to determine the conference champion is actually new. If you don't hold those the process is a lot smoother: - After final week, teams are ranked and seeded. The Top 4 seeds get a first round bye. - A week after the season (normally Conference Championship Week) the first round happens, higher seeds get home games. - Round 2 the Top 4 host playoff games at their stadiums. - Two week break until Round 3, hosted at 2x NY6 bowls. Similar to the first scenario, two of the other bowls will host the four highest seeded eliminated teams. - National Championship the next week. It's far more efficient, far more equitable, and still incentivizes teams to get into the playoffs so they can play in a major bowl. If I had my druthers, the seeding would fall in line with the rankings.
@Pcbdude82
@Pcbdude82 Күн бұрын
While I agree with a lot of what you said. Conference champion game needs to stay. And winning your conference needs reward. We need to take control away from the committee. Just doing 4 highest ranking teams. Let's them decide who gets the bye. I think the only way that truly works is by forcing all conferences to play 9 games. And then each conference has to play 1 game against an another p4. So Oregon for example has to play a sec team, acc team and Big 12 team. This unfortunately pushes out teams like Boise. And forces ND to join a conference. But it will gives everyone a true understanding of who's best 12 and more deserving
@evancovello1932
@evancovello1932 5 сағат бұрын
I don’t love adding more teams but I’m sick of bye weeks in every sport. I don’t want to hear excuses of “the bye week hurts more than it helps.” Add enough teams to eliminate the BYE.
@brians23
@brians23 Күн бұрын
There were blowouts with 4 teams. Fact is some years there are only 1-2 worthy teams. Throwing more teams would make it even worse.
@josephcernansky1794
@josephcernansky1794 Күн бұрын
2016...Big 10 Champ Penn State that beat anOSU in regular season gets excluded by "Committee" because, "We think anOSu is better, even though Penn State BEAT them on the field." First Round....Clemson 31....anOSU (the "better team") - ZERO!!!
@roris5882
@roris5882 Күн бұрын
​@@josephcernansky1794 Penn State had 2 regular season losses and Ohio State only had 1. But Penn State was the better team that season.
@BooAndLittlezDaddy
@BooAndLittlezDaddy Күн бұрын
I did analysis on playoffs back in 2010 based on the issues facing the bowls in the 2000’s… seemed to me that there was never more than 5 or 6 real legit contenders for a national champ… my suggestion was top 6 final ranked teams compete in a 3 round playoff…3 v 6, 4 v 5, with winners moving on to play 1 and 2, who earned byes. Making the playoffs larger than that is trying to enable Cinderellas…and I just don’t think CFB lends itself well to that.
@riddikk187
@riddikk187 Күн бұрын
It doesn't matter what happens because people will still bitch about some undeserving SEC team not getting in.
@matthewklug9061
@matthewklug9061 6 сағат бұрын
What we forget is that these are very young men playing. Any break with a bye can make a team rusty. Should have been an 8 team playoff no byes
@mitchtillison
@mitchtillison Күн бұрын
Participating conferences should follow the same guidelines for championship games and number of inter-conference matches. Seed the tournament according to a weighted system that looks at all three major polls. A conference champion that is crowned without a championship game should be weighted lower than those that do. Top 22 teams that play fewer than 9 conference match-ups should also be weighted lower.
@givem110
@givem110 Күн бұрын
Can go round and round about all this forever but it's been made this way because the networks needed more games. There's never going to be a year where there's more than 4 elite teams or a year where 12 teams deserve a shot at the title. The regular season was kinda pointless when Oregon gets beat immediately after being #1 and undefeated and Georgia wins the sec with the toughest schedule by far out of the playoff teams. The conferences are so lopsided that it's now a big disadvantage to be in the sec. That's the lesson of this year.
@ld4974
@ld4974 Күн бұрын
How is it a disadvantage to be in the SEC? The conference still got 3 teams in. Hard to argue that any of the SEC teams left out should have been in the CFP.
@roris5882
@roris5882 Күн бұрын
The SEC isn't as dominant as they used to be.
@iamtheeldestboy
@iamtheeldestboy Күн бұрын
I thought it was really weird that the first round losing teams didn't get to play in a bowl game at all. What if Tennessee, Clemson, SMU, and Indiana got matched up accordingly between two bowl games. Let's just say it's the Fiesta and Peach. Then the second round is also hosted at the top 4 seeds stadium. Then, the losing teams Oregon, Georgia, Boise St, and Arizona State get matched up between the Rose and Sugar Bowls. Then in the semifinal is a neutral site between the final four teams. And these obviously rotate every year. Meaning next season Orange and Cotton will be the first round bowls of the losing squads and so on.
@johnkerry6312
@johnkerry6312 Күн бұрын
The first year you can go 10-2, lose a late game, not win a conference and make a 'ship run
@Kevo193
@Kevo193 Күн бұрын
I’m fine with the first round bye for conference champions but I don’t think they deserve the 1-4 seeds so there should be reseeding after the first round. Also do away with the dedicated stadiums for Bowl games and have them on campus
@sirpihbalot
@sirpihbalot 21 сағат бұрын
New years day should be the national championship game...playoff teams don't need to get a one month break. The NFL can work their schedule around all of it
@shawnhenderson2091
@shawnhenderson2091 Күн бұрын
I keep saying it, the Vegas oddsmakers should decide the final playoff rankings, they are unbiased and rank IAW team ability and quality.
@littlebittycustoms923
@littlebittycustoms923 Күн бұрын
The only way it ever works out fair is to have the top three teams from each P4. rankings are bias BS. Let the G5 have their own champ.
@roris5882
@roris5882 Күн бұрын
The G-8 Conferences can't compete with the Super 2.
@manuelmedina8427
@manuelmedina8427 Күн бұрын
The time off was advantage Georgia, time to install a backup as a starter. Boise st played Oregon better than Ohio state did the first time. Both were one point losses but the broncos held Oregon to less points.
@ringostarrBestBeatle
@ringostarrBestBeatle Күн бұрын
georgia also lost their starting qb. if they had beck i bet they win or it's a neck and neck game. asu deserved a win also and that changes the narrative drastically.
@ld4974
@ld4974 Күн бұрын
The narrative from Georgia fans was that Gunner was an upgrade. Just saying.
@ringostarrBestBeatle
@ringostarrBestBeatle Күн бұрын
@ and they were wrong
@roris5882
@roris5882 Күн бұрын
ND would have probably won by 30+ against Beck.
@nathanstruble2177
@nathanstruble2177 15 сағат бұрын
The committee has me convinced that losing your starting QB is a kiss of death...
@MarkLillvis
@MarkLillvis Күн бұрын
You just made a great argument that the current system worked
@jerryjones2818
@jerryjones2818 8 сағат бұрын
In the New College Football, with the transfer portal and NIL, comparing this year to last year is almost apples and oranges. Gollege teams no longer stay mostly the same for 2 or 3 year intervals, they can change overnight now. Let the new playoff system run for a few years , collect more data., before demanding changes. Ratings, of course, will determine what is :successful"
@VRKyurem
@VRKyurem Күн бұрын
I think the more you think about the current playoff rules the more it actually makes sense
@LakeFX
@LakeFX Күн бұрын
Rich Eisen isn't affiliated with ESPN anymore.
@Donkor640
@Donkor640 23 сағат бұрын
My solution is to send the non conference winning teams to the first round bowl games that count as the first round of the playoffs. Then make round two home games at the conference winners field. Get rid of the Conference Championship games so we don’t end up having to see those games repeat a couple weeks later.
@detroitbucknut
@detroitbucknut Күн бұрын
maybe the top four ranked teams should have played better?
@alexramage4840
@alexramage4840 3 сағат бұрын
Did the bye matter? Not when everyone effectively has bye weeks. A bye matters in the NFL b/c the season ends and the next week starts the playoffs. In college, season ended and everyone got 2-3 weeks off. Some teams played in round one which helps shake off rust/get timing back. After winning round 1, those teams still got 10-11 days of prep. So a bye in college, the way it’s currently structured, isn’t as big a deal
@Revolver1701
@Revolver1701 6 сағат бұрын
Georgia’s backup quarterback was good, but not first ever start being a playoff game against Notre Game “good.”
@PerfectNeon_
@PerfectNeon_ Күн бұрын
Do people forget that OSU, Tenn, PSU, IU and ND all had the same amount of time off by not playing in a conference championship? Last time i checked 3 of those teams made the final 4...
@mikejohnson7225
@mikejohnson7225 Күн бұрын
The system is perfect the way it is.
@chrisc6015
@chrisc6015 8 сағат бұрын
They need a 16 team playoff. 20 days or more is too long of a rest. And there’s going to be some years where a team is coming on strong with the potential to win it all, but had some mess ups before and will not make the top 12.
@shysgarage2405
@shysgarage2405 Күн бұрын
All of these college football games need to be done by no later than the beginning of the second week of January... And the NFL needs to be done by the end of January...
@dennisgannon
@dennisgannon Күн бұрын
24 days off is too long for most teams, it wasn't just "a week" off. The seeding in March Madness is better than the current College Football seeding. Top seeds should play the lowest seeds. The long postponement is stupid, they should have the playoffs sooner.
@Alexdad84
@Alexdad84 12 сағат бұрын
Everyone keeps saying "bye week" when it was a bye month. The teams that won got a good scrimmage/game in and weren't rusty. A month is a long time. Just shorten the time.
@garse70
@garse70 Күн бұрын
Give the conference champions a home game. They’ve earned it.
@bilba5406
@bilba5406 Күн бұрын
Oregon wasn’t screwed by the format. Oregon was screwed because Ryan Day choked against Michigan resulting in Ohio State being underseeded.
@MrBrunoGI
@MrBrunoGI Күн бұрын
What's wrong, the teams with bi weeks had the advantage abd they blew it. They came out flat thats on them. Next time have a plan to circumvent the rust.
@roris5882
@roris5882 Күн бұрын
Ohio State didn't have rust after getting humiliated by Michigan and being off 3 weeks.
@PureBleachFilms
@PureBleachFilms Күн бұрын
The 4 team playoff had blowouts…since there isn’t actually 12 good teams what do you expect lol
@Kinlochbervie50
@Kinlochbervie50 Күн бұрын
whatever the solution is, it needs to be based on a system of merit and not opinion. that may mean figuring a quota of places per Conferences that qualify for the CFP at the very start of the season. In soccer in Europe, there is a 'coefficient' system which determines how many teams from each national league get to qualify for the European-wide Champions League. the better teams from a nation do in the Champions League itself, the more it contributes to that respective national league's coefficient and it means the better teams qualify, and there is a more competitive tournament. also, it means everyone knows what they are competing for at the very start of the season.
@grobble8954
@grobble8954 Күн бұрын
Simple, seed properly. If you seeded 1 thru 12 with no regard for conference champs, then the match ups look way better. ...ie... you would have gotten a Boise/Indiana 1st round match up, etc...Conf championship should guarantee a spot only (like they do in NCAA bball), shouldn't be related to byes. Also, all the teams with byes lost. I mentioned this prior, not playing for 3 1/2 weeks is not good. All the bye teams looked rusty. While playing a first round game you have a chance to lose, you don't get rusty sitting around for 3 to 3 1/2 weeks
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