Rich Harris | Svelte 5: Beyond Components | ViteConf 2024

[@_dinesh]

I love the simplicity!!!! 🎉🎊

[@gageracer]

I feel like we can use Svelte signals/stores exclusively in any other non-signal frameworks (aka React) and set svelte as a dev dependency(like you always do anyway)! This is a huge step in code re-usability!

[@SheeceGardazi]

Why use React at all?

[@gageracer]

@@SheeceGardazi Not me but the rest of the web world I can see using component.svelte.tsx now!

[@cotyhamilton]

Omg, so excited for native alt runtime support 🎉

[@AlainBoudard]

That was straight to the point ! And yes, it does feel like vite ecosystem is very dynamic. Keep on the great work !

[@gariklaw]

Like many I was kinda afraid when the OG announcement came out, and now that I'm working on some projects in Svelte 5 I'm like "Oh, I GET IT." Bravo. This is the best summary yet!

[@ilovegame1712]

oh shıt here we go again First, we in the team updated from svelte kit beta, then from svelte 3 to svelte 4. Now we will be from svelte 4 to 5

[@SilvestreVivo]

What is sveltekit beta? how is that related with Svelte?

[@Joshua.Developer]

I'm sticking to ELM just works

[@michaelpumo83]

So Svelte basically stole Vue 3’s ideas? 🤣

[@SheeceGardazi]

Nops, you’re mistaken. This idea was originally implemented by Knockout back in 2010. Recently, it was reintroduced by the Solid team, aka implementing reactivity using signals. There’s nothing particularly innovative about Vue; it’s just an alternative markup language to React. + Vue 3 is based on a virtual DOM, so it can never match the performance delivered by Svelte.

[@PascalVos]

Just go webcomponents

[@brandonpaul6139]

But how about if I want to enjoy my life?

[@krannark]

web components are a pain to write and maintain. I think it’s good to understand how to do them and their use cases but there’s no way I’m writing a whole app with vanilla js and web components

[@PascalVos]

@@brandonpaul6139 use something like solid probability. At lease something that doesn’t need a compile step to work. This is the strength and flaw. It all needs so much dependencies and steps to work

[@PascalVos]

@@krannark that’s fair

[@fennecbesixdouze1794]

Have you actually worked with webcomponents? The idea is wonderful but the implementation in practice has so many unfortunate limitations.