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@Adamillionaire123 Жыл бұрын
I can explain it: It's BS
@sharon2419 Жыл бұрын
@@Adamillionaire123How do you absolutely know that beyond ANY DOUBT..I Wouldn't bet my life on it....
@cerealpeer Жыл бұрын
the fbi doesnt have all the facts, thats a fact, and this case is not solved as you purportedly presented it.
@YessyGee15 Жыл бұрын
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@skiarytn6744 Жыл бұрын
With the many weirdos out there, I don’t rule out the cult angle.
@camillaSweden Жыл бұрын
agree
@Bzzzzzzzz535 Жыл бұрын
You ain’t kidding
@masterlee98229 ай бұрын
No evidence of a cult just child porn.
@conniebradley1840 Жыл бұрын
Feels like these young ladies family has to keep enduring relentless BS. It’s so infuriating.
@davidrogers2085 Жыл бұрын
How do you know for sure that they (Pattys) know who's involved in the murders but out of fear or retaliation, they remain mum. More than half of Court TV's audience here are willfully ignorant not knowing all of its characters and the dynamics behind each one.
@mariposamoreno Жыл бұрын
agreed
@rickh3714 Жыл бұрын
The Odinite angle to this is not BS. There's a lot more to this that will be revealed. Other connected events.
@tredjesongen Жыл бұрын
Come on! Stop conspiracy satanic panic now. They have the right guy. Odinists are just role playing white supremanists trafficing drug cartels hiding behind the delusion of being vikings😅. They aint got time for such scrutiny. The conspiracy psychosis makes my head hurt a lot. Triying to dumb us all down. And netflix;dont you dare make another "making a murderer" docu out of this too. Peoples minds get totally warped okay. Responsibility. Now.
@NWI_Steel Жыл бұрын
@eremiasranwolf3513 how have they been "shady?"
@NWHY-p7r Жыл бұрын
This is (quite possibly) corruption like I’ve never seen. We want the right person(s) responsible held accountable. Let’s not be too quick to convict. I’d like to see the court proceedings play out before I go throwing stones. Justice for Libby and Abby 🕯️
@AnnQlder Жыл бұрын
It’s not. It’s just another sick pos murdering children. The defence knows that people want things to be big, and different and a conspiracy because it’s more interesting and exciting, and will generate doubt. That’s all.
@RobinMarconeCassidyRN Жыл бұрын
May Truth and Justice Prevail for Abby and Libby ♥
@Letsberealish Жыл бұрын
I can explain away most true crime conspiracy theories even when I actually believe most of them... This one, however, I can't explain away. There are too many coincidences for there to not be SERIOUS corruption happening here. On the hand, nothing suggests Richard Allen is guilty, especially going for a hike! Also, the bullet is a joke. The Defense will just bring in a "tool mark identification" expert who will eject bullets from multiple SIG p226 pistols and they're all going to look the same as the bullets ejected from Richard Allen's gun.
@WyattRyeSway Жыл бұрын
Dude…..do you know anything about Odinism or Odinists? Obviously not. Human sacrifice like this is not part of the belief system. Allen’s lawyers are clutching at invisible straws hoping some poor schmuck conspiracy theorist police hating nut job buys it. Unbelievable
@jacksonjones3152 Жыл бұрын
Chill out. This is just the defense spinning a story
@RichardHeadGaming Жыл бұрын
Wait......how is it prison officials are within hearing or even watching a meeting between a prisoner and his or her attorney? Anything said is privileged.
@earth0128 Жыл бұрын
Right, if they can show that this happened it's going to cause major issues for the prosecution.
@kevinhornbuckle Жыл бұрын
See my comment.
@Riva2025 Жыл бұрын
Nope, all phone calls from jail are recorded. There is no privacy when you are in custody. Especially because of these type of reasons. Criminals lie and change their stories and personnel have to protect themselves,
@RichardHeadGaming Жыл бұрын
@@Riva2025 You did not even read my statement did you?
@Bot4life2023 Жыл бұрын
@@RichardHeadGamingthey evidently didn’t, reading is essential ! 😂 I understood what you were trying to say, and don’t get it either!
@mac_saauce4351 Жыл бұрын
How does Law and Crime have 5 million followers and Court TV only have 900k! Come on Vinny and the panel are so much better 🔥
@tonystevenson26 Жыл бұрын
Are they both biased that Kohberger is guilty ? I know court tv is....
@Atonement- Жыл бұрын
Vinny is Top Notch... Completely unbiased, open minded, looks at what is there, & goes from there.... It's disturbing however some of the guests... They're all immediately discounting the idea that Odin & its sons are even legit.... These bastards might be responsible for MANY of the unsolved cases of those found in the wilderness.... It's unreal .... They're lazy as chit probably ....a few simple searches in multiple areas instantly reveal the sadistic nature & potential threat they possess.
@christiedovale7827 Жыл бұрын
peace for abby and Libby 🕯
@NoShiiitSherlock Жыл бұрын
The problem with all this is - half of the origional investigators pursued (at least 3 detectives we know of) the O ritualistic angle themselves. Those investigators STILL beleive they are correct too. Therefore, the defense attorney couldn't have just pulled this out of thin air. The details their filing gripes about are those originated by multiple members of the origional prosecuting team. So you can't call the defense a "conspiracy." Its the nature of the origional crime scene -
@darthmcgee2216 Жыл бұрын
LOL! Richard Allen is on video telling them to get down the Hill with the girl gasping that he has a gun. Let's leave Odin to the Marvel Movies with Thor.
@Justme_1221 Жыл бұрын
@@darthmcgee2216so far that’s just circumstantial evidence. If it was definitely him then it wouldn’t have taken years to ID him. Don’t get me wrong, I think he did it. The police really have dropped the ball on this and if he gets away with it, it’s all their fault IMO.
@MrMurder0321 Жыл бұрын
@@Justme_1221 Video evidence with voice for analysis is circumstantial? You haven’t even seen the entire video…..
@Justme_1221 Жыл бұрын
@@MrMurder0321 the public hasn’t been made aware of any results of voice analysis. They may or may not have it. That’s one of the things that will come out at trial. I think he did it and the Odin theory won’t fly but the fact that there’s actually men in that area that believe that and post pictures of themselves in a circle with sticks and stuff along with other weird symbols may be enough to convince at least one juror that it’s possible that RA didn’t do it. All it takes is one of them to say they were not convinced 100% and he walks. It sounds absurd to most people because most of us have never heard of anything like that but there is definitely a group of them there. You can find their facebooks. Most of the posts have been removed but people got pictures of the posts before they were taken down.
@NoShiiitSherlock Жыл бұрын
@darthmcgee2216 you don't know sh*t about what is actually on that video. That video is much longer and you don't know what's on it. Would you call 3 origional investigators CIRCUMSTANTIAL? The ritualistic nature of the crime scene CIRCUMSTANTIAL?
@dorenasadeghi5783 Жыл бұрын
The lawers have sworn testimony about the guards wearing the patches..they SAW them.
@darthmcgee2216 Жыл бұрын
LOL! No they don't, guards are not allowed to add patches to their uniform. Let's see the video evidence of these guards.
@slaws2279 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t mean they’d kill two young WHITE girls. So far, the connection is ridiculous to me. This is the defense’s narrative and boy do they have people talking, just like they wanted.
@tiabeaniesemotionalsupportdmon Жыл бұрын
Yep. And now several guards have admitted thru affidavits to the court that they were wearing those patches (although they claim to be some other type of Norse pagan hedonists, and not odinists), and that the prison made them remove them at the end of September 2023.
@chilltarts3 ай бұрын
The way RA was kept while he was waiting for trail is unlike any prisoner pre-trial I have ever heard. He was kept in a max security prison, not the jail, and he he was put in Solitary confinement for 13 months. Even the warden at the prison said he has never heard of someone being kept like that for so long- and again, this is PRE conviction. That is the strongest evidence I have seen that something weird is happening here and that powerful people in IN are going out of their way to silence something. What that something is, I don’t know.
@Willrocs12 күн бұрын
I know of one person who demanded he be put in state prison over county jail . they told him no and he caused such a problem they sent him to state prison to await trial.
@lindatexas5906 Жыл бұрын
It could have been done after the search was called off after dark, the staging, I mean
@JoeBidenIsRetarded1019 ай бұрын
Yeah you're really bright with that one 🙄
@cindiemounsey4166 Жыл бұрын
Individuals seem to forget the crazy world we know live in and the way individuals minds work! This case requires thinking outside the box, not what the normal intellect.
@MarR310 Жыл бұрын
I believe it. It makes sense why he would confess while in jail. Also how the crime took place. If one girl was unalived undressed and then re dressed. And the whole thing just seems to much for one perp.
@raptorman48 Жыл бұрын
Not resly because one person could do this in 30 minutes and then stage the scene to throw off investigators!
@bbe3034 Жыл бұрын
And Vinny discussed on another video R. Allen kept asking if his family was safe. Allegedly law enforcement told him if he didn’t confess they would murder his wife and daughters. 2 officers actually had Odinists’ patches on their uniforms at the time. I certainly have doubt now. And Richard Allen told law enforcement immediately that he was there that day. He only lives 5 minutes from the bridge.
@raptorman48 Жыл бұрын
@@bbe3034 There is no evidence anyone threatened his family or they had Odin patches on their uniforms in fact there isn't even as any cults in this area it's mostly normal people with a certain percentage of idiots and drunks and bikers and a rumored kkk over the years that I've never seen any proof of but it is mostly white people in this area with more illegal immigrants moving into the area from joke bidens open borders oh and that prison he was held in is in southern Indiana like 100 miles away from Delphi in northern Indiana like this conspiracy theory would implicate a cult that spanned across this state but nope I think he is just trying to get away with murder all the evidence points towards him he was there that day on trail by his own admission and wittnesses and the bullets markings matched his gun the list goes on he frequented the spot where the girls were abducted even had his daughter do her high school senior pictures on the tracks in same spot girls were abducted a year or two before the murders the picture was deleted off facebook by his wife and profile deleted and he worked at the local CVS where processed photographs for one of the victims families I think this guy was stalking one of the girls and he is a pedophile and now a murderer and he probably staged the crime scene to throw off investigators!
@packers12to80 Жыл бұрын
😂 okay
@darthmcgee2216 Жыл бұрын
@ark194 What's the boyfriend's name? Show evidence of this wild claim. I think it's far more likely that he killed them deep in the woods, threw some branches on them, wind and/or animals shifted some of those branches and idiots have wild imagination.
@mariposamoreno Жыл бұрын
is this real life? so crazy. just want justice for abby and libby already
@tonystevenson26 Жыл бұрын
I know a woman, (non violent) whose REALLY into this Norse God vibe. She's actually very book smart and intellectual, but I poke fun of her for being into it so heavy.....so yeah, real life
@ShyLow4 Жыл бұрын
@@tonystevenson26 yeah in todays times where it is more open that many people are atheist, or believe in a different God is obvious. Some just can not except that I guess. The Christian religion in America has been hammered pretty hard for about the last 40 years, and many have turned against it and found other ways of believing. Atheisum has been on the rise for many years. The 80’s babies were huge in rebellion of the Christian religions.
@rainbow_rising Жыл бұрын
Odenists is not a word in our history - Oden = ODENISM - they should truly get an experts from my country or somewhere in Scandinavia - we usually helps each other when there is a case we can't solve, we call FBI.
@melaniebrewer8330 Жыл бұрын
Yes 🙌🏻 wonderful 💡
@GirlfromFinland Жыл бұрын
Exactly! I also commented the same. This wasn’t the first time they spread this disinformation and use these non-experts who don’t know what they are talking about.
@sr2291 Жыл бұрын
This is from PerplexityAI. Go there and ask what is Odinism for the sources. Odinism is a pre-Christian, pagan, polytheistic religion that involves the worship of Norse and Germanic gods, especially Odin, the chief god. It was the religion of the Vikings, who primarily spread it throughout northern Europe, the British Isles, and North America. The oral traditions of the Odinists are recorded in a set of books called the Eddas. Followers of this religion regard nature as the true manifestation of the divine and believe that man is inherently good. There are several different branches of Odinism/Asatru, including Wotanism, Wodenism, the Odin Brotherhood, the Odinic Rite, and the Odinist Fellowship. Each practice is pagan (non-Christian) and polytheistic (believes in many gods) in its beliefs. Most identify Odin (also called Woten or Woden) as the main deity-the father (Alfadir) of the other gods. He is the god of war, wisdom, and death. However, it is important to note that the Odinic Rite is a reconstructionist religious organization named after the god Odin, which conceives itself as a "folkish" Heathen movement concerned with Germanic paganism, mythology, folklore, and runes. As a white supremacist organization, the Odinic Rite limits membership to white individuals, holding the belief in Heathenry as the ancestral religion of the Indo-European race. Unfortunately, some white supremacists have adopted Odinism as a way to promote their racist beliefs.
@rainbow_rising Жыл бұрын
@@sr2291 Really? I had no idea that you knew all the facts - Odinists is not a word that they used - idiot! Read the books, about our runes, the history. Where did you go to school? ODEN not ODIN - just shut up
@annikamyren3026 Жыл бұрын
Yes , it's absured. Aldrig hört talas om "Odenism" .... Asa gudar, ja . Knäppt
@RainyDay6913 Жыл бұрын
May justice prevail! And all who are guilty be unveiled! 🙏🏼💕✝️May true justice be served!
@karenkrejci1367 Жыл бұрын
So…why is he telling this now? Isn’t he afraid for his family anymore? Are they just going to expect the gun & that evidence to disappear like it never existed?
@LawNerdAmber Жыл бұрын
Since the girls weren't shot the gun means nothing. What would have helped is LE gathering ALL the evidence and keeping a chain of custody. They did none of that.
@OmEvul1415 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much 😂
@raptorman48 Жыл бұрын
His wife filed for divorce but before that she deleted Facebook account and photograph of their daughters high school senior picture up at that exact spot where those two girls were abducted the photograph was taken a year or two prior to the crime so he frequented that spot!
@ariesfire13 Жыл бұрын
They just received discovery on Sept 8th. ....they haven't had it for 30 days. The defense has been living and breathing this stuff... The prosecution doesn't even want cameras in the courtroom. Defense -1 Prosecution -0
@carolcarol3938 Жыл бұрын
Well, other evidence such as the Professor from Purdue that was cited as an expert on Odinism and as saying that was not an act attributed to "them" by LE's, has allegedly "disappeared" and can no longer be identified. The Prosecution have disappearing Professors (potential witnesses) ...what next???
@ReactorFour Жыл бұрын
They didn’t say Allen was claiming “the guards are telling me that my wife and family will be killed unless I call my wife and tell her that I killed those girls” they simply said he couldn’t have said anything like this because the guards were watching. The writer was quite the wordsmith.
@samn8616 Жыл бұрын
Very misleading and people ran with it
@Snail.1 Жыл бұрын
So allegedly " Richard Allen " is the " fall guy " for the Odinists murders but yet they're being mean to him for it? Lmao 🤣 smdh..If R.A. is falsely being blamed the Odinists would be happy for him taking the rap and the Odinists would give him special treatment for taking the fall for them too correct? 😅The defense is a " total circus".
@ngie1530 Жыл бұрын
@@Snail.1, right? Glad to see COMMON SENSE in a comment
@misstigerlilly7353 Жыл бұрын
Nothing shocks me anymore, why would these two attorneys put their reputation on the line and it's crazy the judge wants them off the case and they offer to do it Pro Bono and she still says no and picks him two new attorneys that she picked , that's not right and I hope she doesn't get away with it , and I hope those 2 attorneys are watching their backs , this world is crazy and I hope for justice for the girls but for the right person to be the one to pay for this and I'm not sure if they have the right person because some stuff just don't make sense.
@maryparsons5543 Жыл бұрын
Remember this, everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty. There maybe truth hidden somewhere.
@marlowemayhem3230 Жыл бұрын
🤦♀️ Don't be so gullible! This murderer had his image and voice recorded by one of his victims. DNA evidence, and a confession are two more facts in the case. It is the job of his attorney to get his/her client acquitted by whatever lie possible.
@melaniebrewer8330 Жыл бұрын
@@marlowemayhem3230yes you’re exactly right but the stupid defense is wrong because the prosecutors are going to have more 💯 fact evidence with DNA that’s going to show everyone that the pos was the ☝🏻 who killed the precious little girls.
@lindatexas5906 Жыл бұрын
No proof Allen is the bridge guy OR the murderer, I'm not totally convinced
@lindatexas5906 Жыл бұрын
No DNA has been presented from the scene where the girls were found
@Discovering_Diana Жыл бұрын
@@lindatexas5906yes, and actually previous poster is wrong about DNA evidence; there is NO DNA evidence in this case.
@Strawn149 Жыл бұрын
The entire defense is like a huge conspiracy theory 😂
@JackandJilly Жыл бұрын
I love when the defense attorney has an active imagination.
@LawNerdAmber Жыл бұрын
The defense attorneys have investigated more than LE has. They brought receipts to the filing.
@EvilEye45s Жыл бұрын
This sounds like major horseshit. I can’t believe Court TV is even covering it
@earth0128 Жыл бұрын
They are doing their jobs, they only need an inch and they will take miles, if you know what I mean.
@kevinhornbuckle Жыл бұрын
@@earth0128Surely the jury will just love a miles-long wild goose chase.
@OmEvul1415 Жыл бұрын
@@earth0128 Your brain is on the floor. Pick up before it gets stepped on and receives further damage.
@sonyagraske376 Жыл бұрын
"WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON???" THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION. 😢
@christianward-nisbet8833 Жыл бұрын
Those uniforms are government issued. No other patches should be on guards uniform unless you acquired it for something that was a job lined achievement.
@Findpepperbridge Жыл бұрын
In a small town…?
@christianward-nisbet8833 Жыл бұрын
I don't care big city or small town. A uniform should be respected.
@christianward-nisbet8833 Жыл бұрын
I have several people on both sides of my family(including my Mom's biological uncle) that served. Some where Army, some flew planes, some were Marines/Navy Seals, others drove trucks and Indian motorcycles just to deliver mail or meds as directed. My Mom's adopted Dad lost a lung due to a round going off near his motorcycle in a sandy area. He inhaled the sand. Uniforms need to be respected.
@glitterprincess5672 Жыл бұрын
This case now has my head spinning 😵💫
@Maryanne55 Жыл бұрын
He did not do it.
@colormetakenaback Жыл бұрын
I'll give this to the defense- they know how to throw a 💩 into the punchbowl. They definitely know their audience.
@4thegood927 Жыл бұрын
The bodies weren’t found until the next day, so couldn’t a ritual have been done in the middle of the night?
@MsPopeye65 Жыл бұрын
The coroner would have given a time of Death?....❤
@cathrinbarry6009 Жыл бұрын
I think it is very possible. There was very little blood where the bodies were found. Maybe they had been murder somewhere else and than staged at this place at night.
@dorenasadeghi5783 Жыл бұрын
Your 'expert' should be more familiar with the facts of the case. It makes you look bad.
@Maryanne55 Жыл бұрын
He did say he did it BUT two guards threatened his family if he didn’t.
@helpmeImpoor5314 Жыл бұрын
Not true. The documents have a footnote to the part where that is mentioned. It basically says he 'could' have wanted to say something like that to his lawyer but couldn't because he was always being watched. Now everyone runs with it like its fact. If you get a chance to read the document, its footnote 15, I believe
@FreeDustSpirits Жыл бұрын
NB! Don’t be scared of Viking and Rune tattoos if you ever comes on a vacation to visit us in Scandinavia , we do not bite and Elsker Hygge ….
@annikamyren3026 Жыл бұрын
Vilka knäppa idéer 😂 kommer ihåg när alla var hysteriska över satanism
@FreeDustSpirits Жыл бұрын
@@annikamyren3026 Ja, det husker jeg også , - der røg en kirke og en gut gik det vist helt galt for…. Varme hilsner fra din lille nabo 🍻
@somewhereinthemidwest9827 Жыл бұрын
If the guards are wearing these patches then this Odinism must be common knowledge. All the people that have been in this story as creepers is insane. Don’t drink the water..
@packers12to80 Жыл бұрын
There would be so much camera footage of said officers wearing patches. If it was true wouldn't be hard to show proof.
@tiabeaniesemotionalsupportdmon Жыл бұрын
@@packers12to80 Several of the guards have admitted to wearing the pt he’s. They gave affidavits to the court.
@packers12to80 Жыл бұрын
@@tiabeaniesemotionalsupportdmon yeah, I heard. But they also came out and said they are not a cult and they don't do 100% of the horendus stuff they defense is claiming.
@Leskeepingitreal Жыл бұрын
Idk 🤷♂️ if he’s guilty or had been set up by a cult. I agree with he’s innocent until proven guilty. I will wait until trial to see
@ground2purenergy Жыл бұрын
He was a pharmacy tech.
@Smutpeddlers Жыл бұрын
How do you know they were actually killed during the day? They were not found until the next day. So a ritual could of happened during the night. I also find it hard to believe any killer would have left a phone behind, unless they were setting somebody up..
@MsPopeye65 Жыл бұрын
Time of death from the coroner... ❤
@RoseNZieg Жыл бұрын
you're attributing too much intelligence to criminals.
@ReactorFour Жыл бұрын
Even if killed during the day, they could have returned and performed the staging / ritual with the already dead bodies that night. As far as the phone, I just don’t think they saw it, or maybe never realized they could have been recorded and didn’t care it was left there.
@JenBee1 Жыл бұрын
Why would the correctional officers who are allegedly odinists themselves, make Richard Allen's stay in prision miserable? If it wasnt him that killed Abby & Libby & it was this group of Odinists that were mentioned in the Franks document, you would think that these Odinist prision guards would be making his stay in prision easy, because technically Richard Allen would be taking the fall for these so called Odinists. It doesn't make sense. Why would the guards pick on him & make him miserable? I hope this makes sense to someone out there.
@julybliss4440 Жыл бұрын
Theoretically the prison guards would make ra miserable because they need him to take fall for something they or there friends did. (The murders)
@sebfettel Жыл бұрын
and to get a false confession
@MaTTheWish Жыл бұрын
It's called duress.
@ariesfire13 Жыл бұрын
They have Liggett backing them up on the 1 man theory.....RA must take the fall or they all go down. They're intimidating him and conditioning him to assure a conviction so they can continue their dirty deeds and continue to rob the reward monies. RICCO charges are needed if this is corruption by officials....it's beyond dereliction of duty.
@keshaboykins3025 Жыл бұрын
@@MaTTheWishyou can tell he’s been thru a rough couple of months
@dannschmit8604 Жыл бұрын
Um, the only patches jail and prison guards are supposed to be wearing are the official ones of the state that belong on the uniforms. At least in Washington State! You cannot put any other type of patches on your official uniform. These Odin patches would not be regulation and you would be asked to remove them or be fired. I know, I worked in a prison. Not as an inmate, either.
@Findpepperbridge Жыл бұрын
In a small town?
@dannschmit8604 Жыл бұрын
@@Findpepperbridge State prison system
@tiabeaniesemotionalsupportdmon Жыл бұрын
Several guards have admitted in sworn affidavits given to the court (and the public) that they DID have those patches on their uniforms up until September 2023, when the prison made them remove them. They state they are members of a Norse pagan hedonist religion, and not exactly odinists, but that they did wear the patches.
@karenstephens8788 Жыл бұрын
Ludicrous.
@bestkksser Жыл бұрын
I don’t know what you might be going through Or what situation you’re in right now but I no god is there for you and he loves you God bless everyone who came across this.🇧🇸❤️
@melaniebrewer8330 Жыл бұрын
God bless you also 😊.Our Heavenly Father will prevail.
@kevinhornbuckle Жыл бұрын
Why did God allow these murders to happen?
@Me.602 Жыл бұрын
Personally I am not buying the “ group “ did this. It sounds good for a book or movie deal…No attorney could convince me that “ these 2 young girls “ are the ONLY people connected to “ the sacrifice defense “! This whole narrative is ludicrous.
@sebfettel Жыл бұрын
Read all the paper work and look at the actual evidence before forming such strong opinions about someone's guilt, its only fair
@gloriaknepp1290 Жыл бұрын
I'm not buying it ,at all either
@packers12to80 Жыл бұрын
Of course a cult didn't kill them 😂. Why would a white nationalist group kill 2 white girls.
@darthmcgee2216 Жыл бұрын
@@sebfettel Richard Allen is on video demanding they go down the Hill and the girl gasps in terror that he has a gun. Let's drop this fantasy nonsense. Odinist guards at the Jail wearing Odin patches threatening him LOL! Come on!
@tonystevenson26 Жыл бұрын
I ❤️ ODIN
@Sassfire Жыл бұрын
This new motive the defense team is claiming reminds me of the Casey Anthony trial. The made up story of her father doing terrible things to her, it caused enough reasonable doubt that she walked away free.
@Oliviasmama Жыл бұрын
Idk have you seen his speech at her funeral talking about the sweet smell of that baby 🤮
@Sassfire Жыл бұрын
@@Oliviasmama no I haven’t. I’ll have to find that
@mjbeezer Жыл бұрын
It's not made up, though. This is straight from the investigation done by law enforcement. There's a big difference. @picturechick02
@pricklypear7516 Жыл бұрын
Statements from the jurors themselves contradict your take on the Casey Anthony trial. Most of them took the abuse story with a grain of salt. What DID influence their decision was the prosecutor not being able to establish cause of death or time of death. Had the damned fool addressed these issues straight on and told the jury that such is often the case with a badly decomposed body, he'd probably prevailed. Instead, he arrogantly behaved as though it didn't matter to him or his team, so it shouldn't matter to the jury. The jury wasn't "stupid, as so many have claimed, Casey wasn't that "charming," as others believe, and Jose Baez didn't win that case. The prosecutor LOST it.
@nomanejane5766 Жыл бұрын
@@Oliviasmamathat doesn't mean he is a pedo, when people die one thing they remember the most is the smell,for ex if your father dies most children will talk about the smell of their rathers cologne, or hiw they always smelled like motor oil cuz they were always working on the car. The sense of smell is very tied to emotion. Casey killed her daughter and got away with it
@angelmeade6927 Жыл бұрын
Get him out of there!
@johnbrewer4150 Жыл бұрын
There is a very strict dress code at westville ind ,there is no way that a CO could wear a patch like that , total BS.
@MaTTheWish Жыл бұрын
Unless the warden is involved. But I mostly agree.
@tiabeaniesemotionalsupportdmon Жыл бұрын
You can go grab the affidavits just given to the courts and the public where several guards admit to wearing the patches. They claim they don’t exactly identify as odinists, per se, but as some Norse pagan hedonists, and that the prison allowed the patches to be worn up until the end of September 2023.
@maddieadams75 Жыл бұрын
It’s wrong to introduce this fictional story. The prosecutors have much more than we know about. On witness said she saw a man cover in blood and mud, makes me think this blood is in the interior of his vehicle. Blood is like glittering one can never remove it all.
@melaniebrewer8330 Жыл бұрын
They’ve got a lot of dna & much more evidence including more pictures & more recordings so they will get him in court with those.
@ps9292 Жыл бұрын
That witness has stated she never mentioned blood and described the man wearing a beige jacket.
@tonystevenson26 Жыл бұрын
@melaniebrewer8330 no, there is no dna from Allen
@amylamb3893 Жыл бұрын
Court TV is always entertaining. A must watch for sure.
@thomasthompson2039 Жыл бұрын
Tried checking your local penitentiary system. I’m sure they’ve heard of them.
@Riva2025 Жыл бұрын
Sticks, blood, broad daylight?!!! I didn't know the Blair Witch was a White supremacist Odinist!!!
@Ghoulsli Жыл бұрын
The idea that the prison guards are Odinists is not even a little bit of a stretch of the imagination if you know anything about prison culture. You can scoff all you want but the idea that RA is being tortured by WS prison guards is absolutely believable. Let's not pretend these guys are all good people. There are monsters in every walk of life.
@hermanhale9258 Жыл бұрын
In fact, that is pretty silly if you know anything about prison culture. The Odinists will likely be meth ring prisoners. Not to insult all Odinists, but white guys, meth rings, Odinists, there is a connection. You will know them by their tattoos from head to toe, the longer they have been in prison.
@batgirl4766 Жыл бұрын
Here’s the thing. Libby’s mom was in Harrodsburg KY when the murder happened. She worked in the healthcare field and I know people who not only worked with her but the men she also dated. She in fact was dating men of color while in KY. Just saying what was going on and what was seen.
@theovrionides7666 Жыл бұрын
This guy from Jersey doesn't know what his talking about let's not forget those beautiful 4 angels that were black killed in the flora Indiana fire ! U need to bring on your show qualified people!
@falseking989 Жыл бұрын
You’re telling me a group of cultists are dedicated enough to perform a human sacrifice, but not dedicated enough to perform the ritual correctly?
@jodypark8898 Жыл бұрын
Marble clan 😂 I love the Court TV think tank
@chasityyoung815 Жыл бұрын
I 100% believe Richard Allen!! He did not do this. I feel he was sent to that particular prison so he could be under the control of certain people.
@TruthInTunes Жыл бұрын
Also, let's remember that there are 3 law enforcement officers who processed this scene or worked on the case that this was an Odin related killing. So, those 3 officers are lying as well?
@darthmcgee2216 Жыл бұрын
Wind and/or animals move branches all the time. Speculation and wild imagination is not proof of anything.
@snowbird9660 Жыл бұрын
I can’t see prison officers being allowed to wear those symbols on the uniforms. Therefore, I do not think anyone threatened Allen.
@tonystevenson26 Жыл бұрын
Huh ?!
@KTBSolutions Жыл бұрын
Lmao you are an idiot
@Oliviasmama Жыл бұрын
Westville is one of the worst prisons and I’m from Indiana. They do what they want.
@lisasmith7066 Жыл бұрын
Hey should be transferred to a jail until trial, not kept in that prison. It’s cruel and unusual punishment and most defendants await trial in jail, not prison.
@lisasmith7066 Жыл бұрын
Hey should be transferred to a jail until trial, not kept in that prison. It’s cruel and unusual punishment and most defendants await trial in jail, not prison.
@shaun5047 Жыл бұрын
That’s some bold claims him and the defense are making. They’re going need legitimate evidence to back it up or the prosecution is going tear them up.
@RobinMarconeCassidyRN Жыл бұрын
I'm assuming defense is pretty desperate.
@HapticFrequencies Жыл бұрын
Thats what the entire memo was about - did you not read it? The defense hired all of their own investigators & worked alongside the ppl in the sheriffs office that either were fired or retired who were investigating this link to odinism, which, is just a euphamism for satanism....
@SimpleLifeAlways81 Жыл бұрын
No go look "eye of Apophis" and you'd see evidence of satanic rituals etc ... I thought it was silly but after watching his videos, I realized it was ritualistic.
@shaun5047 Жыл бұрын
@@SimpleLifeAlways81 the defense would need to show evidence linking everything. Lol Say everything they said is true, that would be a huge conspiracy. Personally I need legitimate evidence before I just believe the wild claims of someone accused of murder.
@shaun5047 Жыл бұрын
@@RobinMarconeCassidyRN I assume so too. Lol These are some outlandish claims. How convenient that his confession to his wife was actually coerced. I’m curious what’s he going say if there’s physical evidence on their bodies that prove he was there.
@ReactorFour Жыл бұрын
The description of the sticks has the stick on Libby’s left side on her left shoulder. The courtTV drawing has it over her heart. The document also doesn’t indicate an angle, and says it extends further up and down than courtTV drawing. Do we know why they drew it differently than the description?
@Vidarboots Жыл бұрын
Yeah, those don't look like any runes I know. The one the journalist was talking about looking like an F would probably be Fehu. I definitely did not see the fehu rune anywhere.
@scottharris3611 Жыл бұрын
What decade do you think this is? “Film developing department at CVS?” I think you’re having a flash back to 1985 walking into Eckerd Drugs with your Kodak camera.
@MiTks77 Жыл бұрын
What if the bridge guy is warning them that there are "guys down the hill" 🤷♀️
@Crimejunkymaymay Жыл бұрын
Why arent you all telling how all this odism stuff was in discovery turned over by Prosecution.
@vanessadebrino7231 Жыл бұрын
Someone's been watching too many episodes of Vikings on history channel
@muddygirl8819 Жыл бұрын
There is no way that the officers would get away with wearing that patch in their uniforms. There are regulations down to how you can have your facial hair as an officer in prisons, any patches on the uniforms come state from department on the uniform and the only ones on them are the department patch and usually a state or county seal patch depending on if it’s a county jail or state prison.
@mykingofkings1439 Жыл бұрын
Well there is Odin related material are all over the guards from that prison FB pages, so looks like there is some truth to it. Furthermore I came across an old article from 2009 by (Southern Poverty Law Centre) titled "Supreme court requires prisons give special consideration to racist Pagans" The article opened with.. "correctional officers around the country struggle with a court ruling accommodating Odinism, a sometimes racist religion" It was white racist gangs in prisons that demanded prisons accommodate their faith like it does for Christians, Jews and Muslims. These white supremacists have hijacked the Norse belief system to spin it to justify their racism they like it because Odin is seen as a "white god" for Europeans, they are all over the prison system and are well known in rural areas like Delphi, they are very violent and dangerous but must not to mistaken with traditional Odinists who are not racist. If these racists are working and running these institutions like we know they are, then it's very likely they are turning a blind eye to these racists wearing patches etc they would claim it's their religious rights.. It's not that hard to see it being overlooked.. there should be cameras that will help identify these patches unless they have been since been deleted still at least the FB posts exist, if that part is true then it's likely they were wearing patches and they have tattoos too.
@stevenwohlrab4764 Жыл бұрын
@@mykingofkings1439can you post these pics / fb profiles then
@tonystevenson26 Жыл бұрын
@mykingofkings1439 what loser retard becomes an " Odinist" in the first place ? 🤪
@Oliviasmama Жыл бұрын
Lmao have you been to that prison?? Bc I have for a visit and it’s one of the worst I’ve ever seen.
@pricklypear7516 Жыл бұрын
@@mykingofkings1439 Man, I just really appreciate it when people BACK UP their assertions and don't just spew out whatever unsubstantiated junk they're thinking.
@sandrawilliams743 Жыл бұрын
Sorry not buying it. Its just a smoke screen imo. Richard Allen is the guy responsible for this imo
@sharonmontano4924 Жыл бұрын
These people in Delphi can’t spell in English let alone runes 😂
@natasharichardson4609 Жыл бұрын
As a woman that broke up with a guy that has rune tattoos on his head (he got more when we dated months ago) and his body, I don't think ALL Norse Pagans can't be classified in a specific way. Obviously. This defense theory is bizarre! It's making a lot of people think :/. whoever is responsible for murdering these sweet innocent girls will get what's coming to them. RIP
@sr2291 Жыл бұрын
Now everyone will be leary of seeing runes anywhere. People are superstitious and they will blame the symbols. Sad.
@natasharichardson4609 Жыл бұрын
@sr2291 You're right. Also, if a hard-core Norse Pagan is serious about their "race", I am not white lol! Mixed with it? Yes.
@sr2291 Жыл бұрын
@natasharichardson4609 Well, the Nazis did turn the symbol the four winds which used to be positive into the swastika by reversing it and making it look like SS. So...
@natasharichardson4609 Жыл бұрын
@@sr2291 You're point?
@sr2291 Жыл бұрын
@natasharichardson4609 Modern-day groups can turn thousands of year old positive and revered symbols into something evil. Take the upside down Cross of Saint Peter. Would most people today say it is the cross of Saint Peter or the Satanic cross?
@gisannramharack6332 Жыл бұрын
Is it that he tried to defend them when he said "get under the bridge" or sum like that. Then he fired shots n somehow the shells were found close to them???. Idk what to think at this point.
@hope4all366 Жыл бұрын
The gun was not fired.
@gisannramharack6332 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if he is taking the wrap for others who were there..so much possibilities to process with this case..
@atlantisnance5944 Жыл бұрын
Wow I can’t believe you actually believe this mess what about the facts his clothes was bloody he was there that I’d him on the bridge looks like him has same clothes he himself wore girl snap out of the bs
@msc8663 Жыл бұрын
I call it a bunch of bs
@lauritamburrino5179 Жыл бұрын
That Lawyer can become a fiction writer after this trial
@isaiahmusa3474 Жыл бұрын
It's not a fictional this is justifiable evidence this man is innocent..
@lauritamburrino5179 Жыл бұрын
@@isaiahmusa3474 your opinion
@earth0128 Жыл бұрын
Smelling a rat, time will tell. Those poor souls need justice. R.I.P. Abbie & Liberty 💜💜
@julietreesanders7790 Жыл бұрын
This case has to do with revenge killing because someone informed the police about drugs and they got there kids taken away from them because of it..... There are more than one person involved in this murder!!!
@juliannfriend6226 Жыл бұрын
You act like you are stating a fact. Your not.
@tonystevenson26 Жыл бұрын
Kinda like IDAHO.4 I gues......
@tonystevenson26 Жыл бұрын
@@juliannfriend6226 So you think Kohberger is guilty, I presume? I bet you do....
@juliannfriend6226 Жыл бұрын
@tonystevenson26 I have no idea who you are talking about.
@DarrinR.-pq8md Жыл бұрын
There's a code on the primer of the bullet casing that tells what batch it's from. If suspect had a box of bullets or bullets in magazine with the same code on it, he's their guy. Plus, there may be a finger print on bullet casing too.
@laurafasc6926 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever heard of being neutral what kind of journalism is this
@micktaylor9332 Жыл бұрын
Ismt vinnie pollitan just supposed to report whats what with a case. Not decide whats a conspiracy and what isnt. He's clearly biased and that influences everyone watching. That in itself is out of order and fuels all the bs on social media. He should just stick to the facts. End of.
@sherylcrowe3255 Жыл бұрын
Now he's just confessing to the crazy that became his MOTIVE!
@Robocopster Жыл бұрын
Time of death from autopsy has never been made public. How does he know it was daytime?
@ariesfire13 Жыл бұрын
Defense is going off the discovery received on Sept 8th.
@kellibabb6141 Жыл бұрын
I was JUST thinking about One Hour Photo while thinking about this case
@andrewderringer3765 Жыл бұрын
There is literally a footnote stating that RA did not say anything about Odinist guards threatening his family. The defense is desperately trying to explain away the multiple recorded confessions to his family. Wasnt even in an interrogation room. Like come on
@Stephany-x4k Жыл бұрын
Bingo!
@amys5087 Жыл бұрын
They're allowed to wear odinism patches?! Huh?
@darnellwilliams9917 Жыл бұрын
Something stinks to high hell about this case. Something is not right and I’m glad that the world is watching because it will come out, and we will all be left looking stupid with our mouths open 😲
@PR-xm5zc9 ай бұрын
I find it really strange that after 5 years suddenly they have eye witnesses saying they saw him leaving the area covered in blood and the perfect shell case match idk something strange here
@gully602618 күн бұрын
Was it middle of the day, because some searchers from the afternoon of 13 Feb say the bodies were not there? Did the murder/s take the girls away and bring their bodies back in the night after the first search was ended? ?
@sheilasweet957 Жыл бұрын
How did all of this happen in broad daylight?
@sammyday3341 Жыл бұрын
EZ. It was in the middle of nowhere. Hardly anyone was out that cold day.
@Discovering_Diana Жыл бұрын
@vinny napolitano - Richard Allen was a Pharmacy Tech at the CVS Pharmacy; NOT a photo developer in the CVS Store.
@Stephany-x4k Жыл бұрын
But he DID develop photos for the family ...of all people there, he had to
@Discovering_Diana Жыл бұрын
@@Stephany-x4k true; I did hear that.
@Nefertiti0403 Жыл бұрын
It is him. That sketch looks like him and the video picture also looks like him. Despite all the defense is TRYING to say, they’re wrong. They are trying to confuse and discombobulate everyone with a lot of information. It’s all just a ploy from the defense
@earth0128 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, they are looking for anything
@mikesmithsays Жыл бұрын
There is no cult involved. Dumbest defense ever.
@sweetrevenge3567 Жыл бұрын
The blood on the tree looks nothing like an F Vinnie! The pattern looks like Blood Spatter (like the Killer slung Liberty's Blood onto the tree!) Anybody can paint an F better than that, even a Rune F!
@theresafuller7841 Жыл бұрын
You are leaving out that one of the Odinist named is a Mason & the prosecutor is also a Mason & had questionable FB posts the night of and after mocking wearing different hats & another of the Odonists had FB post cutting runes with power tools prior to the act
@ariesfire13 Жыл бұрын
I have the power tool one
@malibu90265 Жыл бұрын
Two little girls were NOT ruthlessly murdered as a ritual sacrifice. Defense better develop another approach to their case.
@LoraHari81 Жыл бұрын
And your opinion/idea is? 🙄
@TheVAULTofHORROR Жыл бұрын
Too late for that. They gotta go with this now.
@malibu90265 Жыл бұрын
@@LoraHari81 Occam's Razor.
@malibu90265 Жыл бұрын
@@TheVAULTofHORROR Well, they tried it out in the court of public opinion, so they can perfect the defense.
@LawNerdAmber Жыл бұрын
Were you there? How do you know?
@JD0586 Жыл бұрын
So now he worked in the "film developing dept"?? Last week you reported he was a pharmacist.
@SisterGoldenHair111 Жыл бұрын
Funny how all this comes out after the report comes out about how there bodies were found?
@bellaluna2921 Жыл бұрын
That was Richard Allen on the video of the girls had of him, and no one can convince me otherwise.....
@franciscotoscano9924 Жыл бұрын
He got skinny so the jury won’t believe it was him on the video, that’s why he lost weight
@melaniebrewer8330 Жыл бұрын
@@franciscotoscano9924exactly 💯.
@donnacaldwell3267 Жыл бұрын
This is ludicrous. By the way, “Odinite” is a mineral. A rock. Those who truly follow Odin call themselves “Odinists.”
@Jessseven-m5d Жыл бұрын
If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, and it goes and confesses to the wife and mother no less than five times... You already know.
@Hartleymolly Жыл бұрын
Their bodies were found arranged like that?? What in the world??
@jasmeanie_PH Жыл бұрын
I'm sure these experts know that Norse mythology is older than Marvel. Do they really just want to sound ignorant?
@TheYoungestCrone Жыл бұрын
ok... so, this killer is into cos play or watched a little too much Vikings.. great show.. disturbing scenes tho . Some serial killers do rituals and display the body in such ways. We already went through satanic panic.. its the same thing here.
@Brown_Skittle Жыл бұрын
Thank god it’s “reasonable doubt” not “any doubt” 🙄
@laurenscott632 Жыл бұрын
who"s in charge of the prison guards? who are they under? goes right back the the orignal police officers that got the warrant and who put him in THAT particular prison I think! LETS go back to who those officers connect to or take orders from!!
@LiftedYellowTJ Жыл бұрын
Have they addressed the 2nd sketch of the younger guy since the arrest?
@JeffMaddock3 ай бұрын
Maybe had someone went to investigate this we would have had answers instead of just saying it's a conspiracy.
@Maryanne55 Жыл бұрын
They were not murdered in the woods, they were taken elsewhere in a white vehicle and had blood all over the outside of the vehicle.
@ReactorFour Жыл бұрын
What makes you believe this?
@Noraeve Жыл бұрын
Let’s not forget Allen WAS there at the time of the mixers. It looks and sounds like him on the girls snap video.