Odinism Confirmed in Richard Allen's Prison | Delphi Murders Case

[@CourtTV]

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[@raptorman48]

People should know that Richard Allen's daughter had her high school senior pictures taken on that bridge in the exact same spot those two girls were abducted and also the exact same spot where one of the girls recorded the bridge guy on her cell phone and also the fact he worked at the local CVS where he processed some family photographs for one the girls and her family all prior to the murders he frequented that trail and that spot it's pretty obvious and a strange set of coincidences!

[@LadyLuck13]

​@@raptorman48it's an extremely small town so there will be connections. The bridge is probably a place where a lot of people have taken pictures for various types of celebrations. For e.g we have an historic bridge where I live where everyone from tourists, day trippers, to local wedding photographers using it for their bride/groom pics. The fact his daughter has a pic at their local well known bridge really means nothing

[@janineanderson3382]

ARE YOU SERIOUS?? LETS SEE NOW AT LEAST 50 PEOPLE WERE ON TRAILS.KELSEY , LIBBY, AND A TON MORE TAKE PUCS THERE BUT RICHARD ALLEN IS GUILTY BECAUSE HIS CHILD HAD CLASS PICS TAKEN THERE.GROW UP.

[@melatara]

Holder and Westfall and Fielder et al should be HEAVILY investigated. Allen does not fit the profile for someone who'd make such a scene. Holder and Westfall were obsessed with tree branch formations and even pics of cutting the treelimbs for their rituals pictured to-date on FB and Fielder stating that HE put the horns on Abbey bc she was a trouble-maker. His sister could not get an audience with police concerning her low IQ brother's confessions with information he should not have had access to being 126 miles away. Why were all these figures cleared so quickly after their deaths? You can't blame the Defense for reading deeper into the Nordic patches and the tasing Allen's constantly asking about his family's well-being into a serious account. Holder still has a painting on his account with a figure hung upside down with the knee in the same fashion as Abbey and a Red F painted on the tree! I don't understand why no one is really talking about this!!! I investigated it myself! The supposed Hoosier Harvestore in the affadavit, in addition the the witness statements being ABSOLUTELY CHANGED, the footage described in the affadavit describing the characters coming and going captured on a camera. First of all, I looked up this Hoosier Harvestore and it is actually a 7-9 minute drive from the trailhead/old CPS lot Northeast of the trail headed towards Rockfield, which is a teeny-tiny unincorporated town with literally NO STORES, not even a gas station. There would be no reason for anyone to drive that direction unless they lived that way or they were visiting them or going to the Hoosier Harvestore. I called them, and discovered through an initial question that they also own a place right next to the trailhead/CPS lot that is the "Delphi-U-store" (a commercial storage place). This place would fit the description of the affadavit. Allen was stated as arriving (coming Westbound) at 1:36 pm that fateful day. However if you look at the map and compare also to the earlier stated testimony that was redacted (and twisted) of BB, she was stated in the affadavit as ARRIVING COMING IN EASTBOUND!!!! THIS MEANS THAT TNIS FOOTAGE COULD POTENTIALLY PROVE THAT ALLEN'S BLACK FORD FOCUS WAS DOCUMENTED LEAVING THE TRAILS BACK TO DELPHI AT 1:36 PM THAT DAY!!! AND THE POLICE F***** KNOW IT!!!! WTH!!!! WHY IS NOONE TALKING ABOUT THIS. THERE SHOULD BE A RIOT OUTSIDE THE CPURTHOUSE!!!!!!

[@seanstevens4635]

Those that mock Astrau under the guise of white supremely ODEN will punish

[@Tanya_MC]

Since when are you allowed to put your own "religious" paraphernalia on a government issued UNIFORM ???? That alone is beyond shocking !!!!

[@martasplace6414]

Since when are they taking books out of libraries? Since when is the government in a woman's doctor's office? Since when are ppl trying to take away public schools and only have religious ones? And that's not all in 2023, and Indiana is a red state that believes in conspiracy theories to throw off the ppl from looking at their client! He was at the bridge, his gun bullet was at the scene....unless he was part of the "Odinism Gang", then I can't see the defenses theory.

[@DocProcRealm]

I hope my comments don't get hidden¡ I think there's a bit more to this story than the CVS pharmacist did it¡🤔🤡🐂💩👮

[@lundyman321]

This is facts

[@lundyman321]

May as well have gang tattoos it’s the same same

[@hulkimania]

Welcome to Indiana

[@christianward-nisbet8833]

If the patches are not gov't issued, they should not be displayed on gov't issued uniforms.

[@pendizzy6352]

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[@jeanebelleavoine3591]

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[@todd3205]

Do we know that this is a conventional prison or is it a private one? Things have changed, supposedly to benefit taxpayers.

[@MeSi-o9z]

​@@todd3205They got into this line of work to be able to break rules. Taxpayers fund their legal gangs.

[@kenlindsey4648]

If cops lie most of the time why not guards doing the same?

[@gailwarnock2764]

They shouldn't be allowed to have the patches on their uniforms that is a big NO .

[@gregsmith252]

The residents of the county and the state have had this brought to their attention .. those that weren’t already aware.. and they arnt having a fit about it …

[@tinfoilhatcovidiot]

​@@gregsmith252well they should be having a fit about it.

[@dawnatkinson7704]

Do you believe people should be allowed to wear a cross?

[@hoosierpete]

If they ban Odinizm, they have to ban Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, and on and on and on. Muslim employees have to be allowed to pray at certain times of the day if not, the state can be sued and held liable. Same goes for every other religion, from Christians to Satanist. The government can not stop any freedom of religion acts, see how it works.

[@alphashewolf9109]

​@@dawnatkinson7704Wearing a cross is far different than affixing a cross to a state uniform.

[@tracyjames2046]

I don’t understand why this man, who has not been convicted of a crime, is being housed in a prison rather than a local jail. Something wrong with that right out of the gate. Anybody have an explanation for that situation?

[@LDF1218]

The jail did not have the ability to make sure he was safe so he was sent to the prison.

[@KTBSolutions]

​@LDF1218 sent to the worse prison in Indiana. Still major red flags.

[@GeorgiaJakes7]

@@LDF1218not true. The former sheriff tobe who has botched the investigation either on purpose or by ignorance was the ONLY one who didn’t want him moved that testified during his hearing. One county sheriff closer to courthouse volunteered to house him. Judge said no based on tobe and fact she is in prison board and can’t have prison look bad - when it is.

[@AllHailKingRose]

Didn’t he keep complaining and asked to be moved

[@MKUltra42]

@@AllHailKingRoseHe’s been begging to be moved out of the prison.

[@she3po945]

The fact the prison guards were wearing the patches speak volumes.

[@martasplace6414]

He was at the bridge and his bullet was at the scene, are you forgetting that??

[@BobbySlackem-fd1uh]

@@martasplace6414where’s any dna ? One man kills 2 girls … and there is no dna ? Unspent bullet is one of the sketchiest pieces of “evidence” you can have .. stop ignoring what’s right Infront of you ..

[@TadiKAT]

​@@martasplace6414EXACTLY ❤

[@kathyanegron8891]

@@martasplace6414Ballistic is a finicky science.

[@DocProcRealm]

​@@martasplace6414no his alleged bullet don't forget that, Ballistic science is super sus and defense will have their experts, if you knew anything about bullets or ammunition and firearms in general you'd change your mind, it's super curious that unspent shells you speak of was found there after the police cleared the scene¡ This all stinks from the Klein Klan to the kkCop Klan involved¡🤥🐽👮💩⚖️

[@briarrose29]

I’m not a conspiracy nut, but the Defense has convinced me something isn’t right with that police department.

[@93FilmsandMedia]

Definitely something weird going on in Delphi. Since the beginning we had heard rumors of Satanism and sacrifice… and now we find out about the Odinist cult connections and the rituals of the death! That police department has been working overtime to cover this up for years now.

[@Ridgegetsreal777]

Don't let the media tell you questioning the official story makes you a nut. If you haven't already look into the bohemian grove. This weird occultic stuff goes higher than delphi. It involves national and international elites

[@giancarlociardiello3997]

😂😂😂😂 ma per favore

[@phillipstroll7385]

Why not name the police and guards? You have no problem naming Richard Allen, who btw there's less evidence of guilt for than the guards. Legacy media is so corrupt.

[@phillipstroll7385]

There isn't a single peice of evidence against Allen. Not one.

[@maryannjohnston870]

Whether Richard Allen did it or not the two correctional officers put reasonable doubt in the jury's mind. Those officers so far put doubt in my mind. My heart does go out to the family of those sweet babygirls. They never deserved this.

[@JaymeSplendid]

Yeah because the whole string of Odinistic ritual sacrifices all over America is totally a thing. Well that and Odist's, racist knd or not, don't sacrifice anyone, let alone children. The kind of Odinism this guy is talking about was formed by Skinheads in prison in order to skirt around the gang affiliated rules and many today hold fast many teachings that racist gangs believe. In prison or not, they still react and despise one group of people more than any other alive. Their hatred is so hot and thick that even harming a child in the sexual way those two girls were and would never have been done by a gang/religion of this type. Not in a group as large as this guy is claiming that are conspiring against him. These people are Skinheads and a collective wouldn't let this ride at all. That whole area of Indiana has Skinheads and it's highly unlikely that dude had never once been exposed to them until jail. This is no different than the morons in the 80s who tried to blame Satanists where the real sex killers and not the moron who actually did it. Even if the "pentagram" they found was actually the wrong kind because the killer was a moron and thought anything within a circle was satanic. This dude did it. Watch, if it comes out in trial that some of his DNA is found at the crime scene, it was planted by sophisticatedl Odinists. His own dirtbag lawyers leaked the actual crime scene photos a few days ago and they will most likely be completely removed from the case which is going to gunk this trial up even more.

[@MusicInMotion_67]

Right. What if those girls were lured down there by person ones son?

[@geraldprechtelmeyers2319]

Lol let me guess, you are Christian? And have no knowledge of the thousands murdered by Christians because they didn’t want to change their beliefs? There is no doubt in my mind that there was nothing wrong with these officers wearing their religious symbols. Christians do it. I personally had mine tattooed on my body to avoid this exact kind of bullshit. I have symbols of both Celtic and Germanic gods on my body, my ancestors gods before the Christian plague entered Europe.

[@chuck7879]

Come on... they were a part of the conspiracy and forced him to call and confess to his wife..... Give me a break

[@chuck7879]

@@MusicInMotion_67 lol what

[@Maryanne55]

Who are you kidding, they are corrupt in Carroll county and yes I believe they did threaten his family.

[@darthmcgee2216]

lol evidence or it didn't happen.

[@thatdude1066]

⁠@@darthmcgee2216 show evidence it didn’t happen?

[@shilohaugust6749]

The case of Jesse Snyder. You'll see the corruption in Carroll County LEO'S

[@chungkingchungking]

I grew up in Washington County which is in Southern Indiana about 150 miles away from Delphi. Corruption there when I was growing up included the cops beating the crap out of inmates and all kinds of abuses at the jail. Not to mention a sheriff had a son that was having sex with a female inmate and only after the new sheriff got wind of it was charges finally filed and prosecuted and removed from the force. Not to mention Lawrence County where Ken Hawkins and wife matron in 2008 was having sex with various inmates and was tried and convicted. They're corrupt as hell in Indiana counties when it comes to the judicial system and the cops.

[@thomasscott116]

@@thatdude1066😂😂😂that’s not how science works

[@Hoosier_leclere]

As a security guard. You can't have a nose ring to make 11 dollars an hour yet they were allowed patches. Totally mind boggling

[@marygoff3332]

Great point.

[@C.C.Sophia528]

A nose ring leaves physical damage when ripped out, if done at work it becomes a liability. Patches do not. But, I agree with you….

[@Hoosier_leclere]

@@C.C.Sophia528 yeah well you couldn't have facial hair or tattoos showing. What I was saying was I can't believe that you could have a patch on you uniform at a jail or prison, especially one that could be gang related in any way shape or form

[@C.C.Sophia528]

@@Hoosier_leclere sorry, I can’t read minds, but I can read comments. And can only take them for the words that are there. Thanks for clarifying!

[@toddaulner5393]

I would not do that job for less than $60 an hour. I am sure you are just exaggerating as you can make that at 14 working at McDonalds.

[@twotragediesinlife667]

Why is anyone allowed to wear any patch other than certain state and federal patches on their uniform. Absolutely disgusting!

[@DevinMichaels-bx2qk]

I heard it's not true. Paperwork is just saying it. But those guards are against kid killers I'd be very surprised if this was true .know a ex guard there.

[@adamwilliams9487]

It’s not true, genius..

[@chungkingchungking]

They are not allowed to wear patches in Indiana Department of Corrections. This is corruption by the warden at Westville, Indiana prison and also by the officers and anyone else who knew this was going on. Not to mention all the way up to the head of the INdiana Department of Corrections. Its a violation of dress code and standard clothing and uniforms to be worn. People need to be fired.

[@chungkingchungking]

@@DevinMichaels-bx2qk Actually it is true because the warden and the officers in COURT DOCUMENTS admitted they were wearing the patches. Freaking idiots.

[@chungkingchungking]

@@adamwilliams9487 Actually its in the court documents and a sworn affidavit was given by the prison warden and the officers and its in the court documents that they admitted to it. Try harder in school. Or maybe you need some remedial education instead of How To Be A Bubba 101.

[@Martinez765]

Why are defense attorneys fully defending their client considered unprofessional?!? Rlly annoys me when people say that

[@Aboma2012]

Absolutely some people just assume whatever the cops and detectives said is truth which is ridiculous. The defense attorney has more stronger evidence than state and we could seeing innocent man

[@markbaz]

The general public is just that. They see things from “their perspective” and not a “court perspective”. It’s hard for them to change gears or often even be open minded. Hopefully never but if they are ever a “defendant” I’m sure they will tell their attorney, by any means necessary!!!

[@todd3205]

I knew a fairly important defense, atty, in my time working in a Common Pleas Court that told me, "Hey, I've had a number of clients that I knew were guilty as s**t. It was my job, then to make sure the state followed the law - dotting all the Is, crossing all the Ts." Until we think we're ready to throw every suspect in every crime in jail without a fair trial - that's all we have, and if it's your son or daughter in that position, you'll WISH for the rights of the accused - which is what the phrase 'innocent until proven guilty' stands for.

[@phillipstroll7385]

Why not name the police and guards? You have no problem naming Richard Allen, who btw there's less evidence of guilt for than the guards. Legacy media is so corrupt.

[@phillipstroll7385]

Let us not forget, the defense cannot lie in anything presented to the court. They will be disbarred if they do. However, the prosecution can and do knowingly lie. Add to that police are legally allowed to lie and when they swear to tell the truth, it's the lies they swear upon. Do not forget that. There is zero evidence of Allen's guilt. Zero.

[@vinnivanhood]

Cops messed up this whole case and I think they did so on purpose!

[@HeavenlyPresley-Tonya]

Yes He is being SET UP!!!!! I watch "The Lawyer You Know" Excellent Channel --- If You haven't watched him -- He talks in details about this case and all the high profile ones -- as to how a Lawyer looks at cases and gets the Official Documents and goes over them all with his viewers -- all the details in the documents!! with the Prosecutors and Defense ---

[@kimlarso]

That’s why they didn’t call in the dogs (that night!) I believe the girls murder has to do w the officers that 1) killed himself and 2) the ex officer that was arrested & that had child porn etc (most likely, others in that county involved w child porn)👉many unsolved murders up in Alaska 👉where that officer moved to that Kegan used his profile pic to attract teens

[@mariana1997]

Totally agree! I don’t remember a single case where LE had kept everything to themselves, they didn’t do it so they could protect the investigation, they did it because their are covering all up.

[@rickjames5998]

​@@HeavenlyPresley-Tonyaok, Ai

[@kazshaw3945]

That's because this case is all about a Pedo ring and we all know how far up the ladder they go!

[@mikecartermulcy]

Guards wearing patches on their unis that reference a religion??? Doesn't matter what the religion is, farly certain this is not allowed as its Gov sanctioning a specific religion, unprofessional, appearance of unethical and/or lack of objectivity, and the guards need to be disciplined and issued warning that wear patch to work again, they will be fired.

[@mothermcready4417]

What if the Warden believes the same stuff?

[@darthmcgee2216]

Guys... Down the hill. He has a gun!!

[@AmandaZuke]

This Heathen agrees wholeheartedly. Wear a religious symbol alongside your uniform, like a piece of jewelry? Great, fine, perfect. You want it *on* your uniform, that’s a problem. Same rules for all, no exception.

[@chelsea5867]

Unfortunately they likely won’t be fired or even really disciplined. Warden seems to have their back. Agree with you that it’s unethical and unprofessional.

[@sserpentchic1342]

Whether he's innocent or not, he needs to be moved out of there ASAP. I'm honestly very worried that if he isn't out of that prison soon, RA will end up doing an "Epstein"... there's obviously something at the least shady and at the worst corrupt going on there in LE.

[@mariana1997]

Exactly! I was thinking the exact same thing, what if he gets killed or somehow commits suicide and boom, no trial, case closed.

[@hfrt29]

agreed. I can only imagine what that man is going through. For some reason, I feel like he may not be guilty.

[@sserpentchic1342]

@@hfrt29 yeah, that reason is an epic ton of reasonable doubt. RA needs to be let out so he can start healing and moving on...while suing the rest of the patches and badges off those correctional uniforms!!

[@sserpentchic1342]

@@mariana1997 for real! And I call BS on the reasoning behind them housing him at a literal prison instead of jail (where he should be given that he hasn't been convicted). You don't move a high profile inmate to a state prison for "safety". That'd be the last place that makes sense to be moved to. I think he was moved there because whatever dark thing going on here in the system up there has a stronger foothold in the prison staff than those at the county lockup, and more isolated from the public.

[@TheVAULTofHORROR]

​@@sserpentchic1342Where else should they put a suspected murderer? A fancy hotel? Prison sounds FINE to me. Wait to hear all the evidence before you start demanding potentially dangerous individuals be allowed to run wild on the street just because you have half a brain 🙄

[@tizza963]

I think most people would be shocked at how corrupt a lot of our prisons are in America. I would be shocked if those two guards aren’t involved in the white prison gangs. If they are part of some murder conspiracy is obviously a different question but all this should seriously give everyone pause.

[@Jimmietwotimes]

What's shocking is that you think most people would be shocked. Have US citizens not been paying attention for the last 200 years or are they just brainwashed into thinking that police are somehow 'above' them and incorruptible? And prison guards are for people who can't get a job anywhere else. Dumb brutes so ugly inside that the only way they can feel good is to bully people in a cage who can't fight back without severe repercussions, like the mean kids who capture frogs and spend all day torturing them until the frog finally dies. I know too many guards to think otherwise. Disgusting people.

[@traceygeer797]

This world is full of corruption

[@dianealarcon8304]

Yes, many COs across USA are hinky. This is not the first story about questionable affiliations that are no less worrisome as gangs in prison.

[@violetflame2162]

THIS 👏👏👏👏👏🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@kerichasse1414]

They are corrupt

[@HubCityParanormalinvestigatons]

I am not a fan of the Murder Sheet because they do not want to look like they are wrong. I have said from the very beginning that Richard Allen Had nothing to do with these murders. If I am wrong then I will admit it. But the murder sheet is really selective on the evidence that they use and do not look at anything else.

[@TheVAULTofHORROR]

At the very beginning, why did you think he was innocent? Before all this.

[@CW1971]

I've always thought they had the wrong person in custody. Don't know why I initially thought that, the timing seemed odd and the reasons for his arrest were flimsy. I definitely don't think he's guilty now but happy to have the prosecution change my mind

[@TheVAULTofHORROR]

@@CW1971 idk I don't think it's a coincidence that he was on the trail alone just walking around with wet muddy clothing.

[@CW1971]

@@TheVAULTofHORROR where do you get the idea that he's wearing wet muddy clothes? Is it common practice for him to go there?

[@awarewolves1712]

@@bearants Are those two banging, do you suppose?

[@SkateGirlAndrea]

The confession, its a transcript, non of us has heard Richard actually say that. I want to hear it. Especially if I was Juror in the case. Id want to hear the actual phone call.

[@martasplace6414]

When it goes to trial, you will hear it. The defense is trying to start a conspiracy theory, because they know a lot of ppl believe in those nowadays....just look at the comments, they are full of them!

[@darthmcgee2216]

That will happen at the trial. He actually confessed several times to his wife, 5 times if memory serves.

[@EffSharp]

The defense is not denying he said it. They are alleging that he was threatened by the prison guards with the Odin patches to “confess”. I don’t know if he’s guilty or not but the fact that the defense is right about prison guards following a very scary kkk like religion is eye opening. Regardless of this case, those prison guards need to be investigated.

[@loralieisa]

​@@darthmcgee2216 He confessed because of threats and beatings made by prison guards. He might as well have confessed to being a warlock.

[@Jammn126]

Seeing how Allen looked when he went in and what he looked like during his arraignment makes me wonder is part of what he’s saying is true. He looks like a totally different person.

[@tredjesongen]

Yes. Just speculating of course;but what if he liked working at a pharmacy due to clonopin. That would explain the wreck in wheel chair if he had to go cold turkey on that stuff. Also explaining the absolute audacity to go on and do such horrible deeds in broad daylight. If he did it. To me it looks like that. And for those lousy odinist/asatru fools;we all know its just an excuse for white supremacy. And a gang symbol. This coming from a norse as norse can be. Gangs in rural us making money on drug traficing. Hiding behind symbols and collective believes/interests. Sounds familiar hmmm.. Harley davidsons are always on police's radar. Not these. Until now😅

[@Trish30]

Exactly

[@chungkingchungking]

Strangely enough I spent years ill with diabetes and sepsis issues and hospitalizations and never lost that much weight in the year that I was in and out of the hospital. Its almost as if he has been mistreated or denied food or proper care since he's not convicted and only held there until they can prove him guilty of which its highly doubtful they can prove a lot of circumstantial evidence. The video and pictures of Bridge Guy are horrendous and not even close to being clear just a face with some clothes on that you can't identify who it actually is. Not to mention outright lying on the part of investigators and cops when it comes to key things in this case.

[@tmzz3609]

He was obese.......... I'm sorry prisoners aren't fed Big Macs to their satisfaction.

[@Jammn126]

@@tmzz3609 That’s a no brainer. It was more than that.

[@sheilal5852]

Why are the COs wearing patches that aren’t state issued.

[@amandanegrete1306]

And who allowed it specifically?

[@villanelle8888]

@@amandanegrete1306 Did they not say in this video, the Warden must have allowed it?

[@darthmcgee2216]

Guys... Down the hill. He has a gun!!

[@amandanegrete1306]

@@villanelle8888 his chain of command needs to be held accountable.

[@villanelle8888]

@@amandanegrete1306 Command told them to remove their patches after the Defense started instigating Odenists. It said that in the affidavits.

[@Leahever777]

Imo, no one in this panel wants to realize and admit that RA may be innocent. We appreciate media coverage, but would like to see true unbiased opinions. There seems no reason, whatsoever that RA had any motive and the fact that other suspects, ruled out for whatever reasons, had motives. The mere fact that one victim was in contact with a POI who knew of the girls plans for the day, where they were going and the time the night before, is very telling. The fact that the prison where RA is, in itself very disturbing. He should have been in jail, not prison. He obviously is not in good health, and is declining daily. I am not saying that he is innocent, but I believe there is way too much reasonable doubt so far. Please get unbiased people, or balance your "guests" panel. In the end, we all want justice for these two young beautiful girls and peace for their families.🙏

[@helennichols6531]

I'm from the UK but I've heard of this case. What do people think of mike king? I haven't seen him before in this case. Mind you I don't think I've seen this channel before talking about this case.

[@darthmcgee2216]

Guys... Down the hill. He has a gun!!

[@dianealarcon8304]

Once a person acts out their fantasies, you cannot say they have a Normal Societal reason. It may have been the perfect opportunity that he couldn’t resist.

[@dianealarcon8304]

I do agree, placing a person that has Not been convicted yet in a prison for their protection is borderline. The jail holds 137 people, at least 20% awaiting trial. They could have hired add’l CO’s to guard him. But, they also claim there is Not mental health care at the jail. So, you have someone come in weekly to assess, and come in when there is an issue to address. The worst thing to do is have a Defendant lose 30-40lbs from Anxiety before a trial. So many thing are wrong with so many of their decisions for this Defendant. Liberty and Abigail may not ever get Justice. 🙏🏻⚖️🍀☮️🪦🪦

[@Camzwinget]

I hope it comes out that he is Innocent. He has been tortured since being placed in prison. That is a big NO until you are convicted. This state is going to get sued for all its worth if he is found not guilty

[@karenk3458]

I can’t believe the COs are wearing these patches now it’s creating diversion and it feels like we’re back to square one. Will we able get justice for these girls & their family?

[@Notwoke7]

Reasonable Doubt, now, probably not- Brilliant defense strategy though. I bet it was his attorney who first saw a patch and came up with it. They are in it to win it

[@mypeeps333]

It's made up by defense !

[@93FilmsandMedia]

@@mypeeps333 none of this was made up by the defense. Are you slow in real life too? Or just on the internet 🛜 ?

[@raptorman48]

That prison is like 80 miles away from delphi and even if any guards believed in paganism and wore patches it doesn't mean they had anything to do with the murders in delphi those guards don't even live close to Delhi Indiana and the only reason he was sent to that prison was for his own protection because people in this area want to kill the bastard and if he gets out walks free of murder he won't be safe in this area and this defense move is a bunch of BS to distort the case!

[@Cyber_Sleuth_Steph]

@@Notwoke7 THANK YOU someone in the comments finally gets it

[@Martinez765]

Too much reasonable doubt to convict RA. If this is all the state has on him so far, I couldn’t convict the guy and I hope those officers are let go…

[@lynettebrinkman9552]

The correction officers are not going anywhere. They were given permission to wear those patches. It’s the warden who needs to go. It’s obvious to me that something a little more than wearing patches is going on in that prison. The authorities are putting him in a prison instead of county jail and claim it’s for his own protection then as month after month goes by he is obviously going downhill both physically and mentally. Just look at the weight loss, how haggard he looks, his facial expression, his body language. Anyone who can commit a brutal crime like that is not going to buckle from regular prison conditions. He’s obviously not being treated correctly in there. And yes I agree…way too much reasonable doubt for a conviction.

[@sarahwales6276]

This will look so bad for the Prosecution if they have to back track on this, they have destroyed Richard Allen's life and damn near killed him during his imprisonment, it would be extremely stressful to be put in that position if you are innocent. They will do whatever they can to avoid admitting a mistake because Allen will sue them for millions.

[@sarahwales6276]

I did not feel good about this case from the start, an unspent bullet?

[@jimnasium7700]

​@sarahwales6276 not just an unspent bullet, but the examiner concluded that his finding was subjective to interpretation, meaning it has very little evidentiary value.

[@AllHailKingRose]

But the trial hasn’t even started for there to be reasonable doubt. We haven’t even heard the confessions.

[@thedean4954]

The murder sheet folks want him to be guilty very badly for some reason. 😂

[@gracie1598]

They are two local goobers in Delphi who jumped on the KZbin attempt to solve the murders train late in the game.

[@gb3376]

Why are they acting like spokesperson for the prison😅

[@CW1971]

Can't stand those grifters

[@awarewolves1712]

@@gracie1598 Are they banging? He's always positioned just slightly behind her, like a ventriloquist, I can't get it out of my head.

[@chungkingchungking]

Delphi and local goobers is a pretty accurate statement especially when a lot of rural Indiana is the same way. Too bad some people of intelligence aren't actually doing the podcast. Indiana has a lot of these uneducated wannabes that couldn't get the credential and probably barely got through high school much less anything more rigorous.

[@littlezentz]

Wait a minute, He is to be treated the same as pre trial detainees, not the same as inmates in a prison. Does anyone else have a problem with using the taser to gain his compliance. Those guards admit that also. That is not allowed and if it is being practiced it is a big problem. (some states get that correct) It is time for a lawsuit against these practices. The taser was developed for use in situations where lethal force would otherwise be used. .Corrections officers are trained in takedowns and restraints things 2 Sargeants (not just Officers) could easily perform.

[@KTBSolutions]

Yep but ppl seem to think its ok

[@cassandraoftroy829]

They have admitted to him being tased twice. Only two times have the Defense seen it on camera, so that's all they have admitted to but how many times have they tased him NOT on video?

[@chungkingchungking]

Remember its an American police state where you don't have basic rights even though you haven't been convicted of a crime only under suspicion or accusation. The same with prisoners being mistreated when the cameras are off and the corrections officers beat people. It happened in my home county jail for years in Salem, Indiana. People aren't smart enough to realize that cops are abusive. They enjoy licking the boots of corrupt cops and have been neutered to not question authority. Its not different than religious indoctrination.

[@BalletTapJazz]

Yeah the treatment is terrible but not surprising

[@VikingByNature]

At the 7:00 mark in the video, Vinny states that CourtTV is not naming any of the Sergeants. But minutes later their names, Sergeant Randy Jones and Sergeant Joshua Robinson, are revealed at the top of the next pages! OOPS!!!!

[@Hartleymolly]

🤔 viking huh

[@williamparker7025]

for the sake of clarity and justice he needs to be taken out of that prison and placed somewhere far away. If the only evidence they have is that he was there and the casing that is not enough.

[@Serf_dom]

I believe the bridge is accessible from the "down the hill" side where Betsy lives. Betsy has a neighbor that the kid that confessed visited, also an Odinist. I don't think the killer needed to parade all through the area from front to back anyway, so no one else would have seen him/them.

[@AllHailKingRose]

What about the confessions? Everybody keeps saying the only thing is a bullet. I don’t know what else they have because the trial hasn’t even started but don’t they have confessions

[@dawnvarty657]

He also self reported being there. Considering the cover-ups that are being revealed about policing in the decades of no public scrutiny I have no problem believing RA could be innocent. His physical and mental health appears to have been normal for the five years between the murders and his arrest, yet has had a steeply abrupt decline since imprisonment. While I find that just for the guilty, I haven't seen enough evidence to prove guilt. I'm alarmed by the idea that a man not yet proven guilty is being tormented in such a way.

[@martasplace6414]

​@@dawnvarty657he confessed that he did it, he knows he had to say he was there because his car could have been noticed, his bullet was found at the scene! The defense is just throwing out a conspiracy theory to a lot of ppl that believe in conspiracies!

[@howiewill]

Whether the patch is religious or not it shouldn’t be allowed on the “uniform”. People wear crosses around their neck not on patches on uniform. These patches are a form of intimidation from guards to prisoners no matter how “good” their records are. If anyone out there knows anyone that’s been in a real prison or worked in one they all know this 💩 and worse goes on there. Honestly there’s too many “coincidences” coming up that resemble more of what the defense is claiming …. Creating a lot of reasonable doubt

[@amandabrandon7241]

Yep! 💯. A necklace, bracelet, even a tattoo is one thing. I have never seen a place where either LE or COs are allowed to place any patches on their uniforms! It blows my mind that it was even allowed and done in the first place. My thought is intimidation as well…

[@colorbugoriginals4457]

on one hand, they shouldn't have religious emblems on their uniforms. on the other hand, they wouldn't have been singled out if they hadn't worn them. 😬

[@SamanthaCZimmerman]

what about a crucifix or cross?

[@colorbugoriginals4457]

@@SamanthaCZimmerman burn it.

[@colorbugoriginals4457]

@@Curious-n1u can put all the emblems you want on your turban.

[@SamanthaCZimmerman]

@@colorbugoriginals4457 i don't disagree--but the constitution might

[@colorbugoriginals4457]

@@SamanthaCZimmerman first amendment, bb!

[@Amandavg]

I have a feeling these patches were worn by the guards not related to odinism. The defense saw them, did research and found they were related to this cult. Then they spun this wild story to give reasonable doubt about who really killed the girls. Some of the stuff is convincing sounding. As a pagan though, this kind of fear mongering and satanic panic as it was back in the 80’s and 90’s really annoys me. There are bad people in every religion but the vast vast majority of us would never hurt anyone let alone sacrifice children. Could it be true? Sure, but I need to see more evidence, pictures, tests, interviews, etc. before I will be convinced this story is true.

[@gravad5250]

He didn’t do it. No DNA evidence and only one bullet that “might” be from a gun he owns. Can’t convict a guy of Capital Murder with that kind of evidence

[@MamaBlisss]

Everything we are seeing is a defense strategy not evidence. It's disappointing that court tv is repeatedly engaging in this.

[@jerrimenard3092]

Exactly! It's 100% satanic panic.

[@melanie62954]

Exactly. This is such Satanic Panic fear-mongering to get people's emotions involved.

[@adamwilliams9487]

Or maybe it’s not true… 🙄

[@sarahwales6276]

It makes no sense that the sticks would have been placed in those positions to "try to cover their bodies", their bodies were not covered at all, there was no attempt to cover them up.

[@TheRatcliffFam]

And then whoever committed the crime swapped the girls clothes

[@martasplace6414]

He might have not had the time to finish covering them, that could have happened.

[@sarahwales6276]

@@martasplace6414 There wouldn't be enough sticks to cover them.

[@GodspromisesRyes]

Covering bodies doesn't explain bloody rune on the tree either

[@alexnorth9740]

It's not even close to a rune. Someone wiped their hands on the bark to get rid of the blood. Even IF we squinted real hard and wobbled our heads up and down super fast and came to the conclusion that it looked like an F... The way the parallel lines go is UP, not Down which would make it Fehu, Frey(a)'s rune, that of cattle and wealth.

[@RichYungg]

Now that changes things. Also in my many years of watching court cases and hearing about them, I’ve never heard not 1 person use a prison phone to flat out admit to murder. Murderers usually never tell anything.. so I don’t know what to believe now because people are evil as hell.

[@PushaT_cells]

He definitely was threatened to confess

[@jenntate9726]

Just off the top of my head... Brendon Dassey. Murderers never talk??? Oh but sometimes they do... Bundy, Watts, Rader... and I'm sure a Google search would give me quit the list....

[@Pawsk]

I can remember quite a few cases where this happened.

[@danielfreeman8725]

Few things sillier than a person who's expertise is "i've watched and heard a lot about them" to make definitive statements about something. I'm watch some true crime, but not a ton and even I have come across this.

[@paulf3]

Stephen Hayes, Scott kimball, Chris Watts.....

[@MakerInMotion]

Court TV may be unwilling to name and show the people accused by the defense, but others have. I encourage anyone curious to find that stuff. These guys are absolute creeps. Much better suspects than Richard Allen.

[@linmerst1437]

Where to look?

[@MakerInMotion]

@@linmerst1437 Try searching for Brad Holder and Elvis Fields.

[@villanelle8888]

They accidentally showed both names in this video. I saw them in the documents they showed.

[@linmerst1437]

@@villanelle8888 i only saw one.. but still, where to look when you want relevant information?

[@thetruepatriot7733]

Why creeps?

[@juniorjohnson5961]

All i can say is RA has a great legal team. If prosecutor doesn't have more than a bullet he'll walk i see reasonable doubt . Prosecutor better have a lot more .

[@5GreenAcres]

Even with the bullet, where was it discharged? It has been said that gun click/cock can be heard on the video. If it was on the bridge to usher the girls down the hill then the bullet should be either on the bridge or under it. Way too much reasonable doubt. Just because there is a video of a guy walking on the bridge does NOT mean that is the guy. Why didn't the killer(s) get rid of the phone? Throw it in the river? Guy on bridge a great patsy. I have always said....do any of these prison guards or police have kids they are protecting? Why doesn't FBI get back onto the case. These bozo's they have on Court TV tonight are a joke! (the couple)

[@williamparker7025]

if all they have is the bullet he should walk. Would be way too easy to set that up

[@juniorjohnson5961]

I'm not Shure the bullet evidence will hold up . I'm wondering if any LE that were at the scene own a gun that's the same as RA 🤔

[@lissawilliams5117]

Thanks!

[@markbaz]

Wow, #1 kids was friends with Abby. Persons #2 kid had a falling out with the other kid and was out in the woods doing rituals! This sh*t is deep! My question is why hasn’t the prosecution tried to put out these fires that are starting to blaze!

[@Jedstop]

What?

[@amandanegrete1306]

Waiting for trial…per a gag order.

[@markbaz]

@@Jedstop What Vinny stated about the #1 & #2, the correction officers & their children.

[@awarewolves1712]

The prosecution is also part of the cult that's why. Both sides are white, no way that's just a coincidence. And about 90% of white supremacists are Odinesque, Runic, Pagaheathen or Other, all part of the "Wicker Underground." Hijacking, murder, human trafficking, theft, conspiracy.... Indecency is the sole code of respect. Look for the "T1P1" logo hidden in their patches and other regalia. "Tier One Pier One." They're not going to give up their own.

[@shilohaugust6749]

Brad Holder's son was supposedly dating Abby. Can't remember the son's name. Then you have Elvis Fields who said he spit on one of the girls. I can't remember Brad Holder's friends name in Delphi that Brad Holder and his son visited in Delphi

[@Willow-fs8dq]

I am beginning to believe that Allen is telling the truth about the guards intimidating him. It would explain his decline while in that prison. Daily threats and repeated intimidation could cause him to break down. Mike King is completely right about separation of church and state. So reasonable doubt has been achieved by the defense IMHO on Allen’s “confession” was a result of intimidation. However, the claim of the the cult killing of Abbey and Libby, I am still not buying it.

[@traceygeer797]

Dude put wad some tissue put in your ears to avoid listening to them, block them out!

[@MitziHart]

And why would he openly confess, on a phone conversation with his wife, knowing full well these calls are recorded,… could it be the guard(s) were close by, prior to the threats, intimidating & making sure he went through with this admission 🤷🏼‍♀️. It honestly wouldn’t surprise me !!!

[@jojobalistic]

Please- couldn’t he be breaking down because he got caught having murdered two girls- that’s definitely a reasonable explanation for him confessing as well! Not everyone wants to lie after they are caught.

[@MitziHart]

@@jojobalistic Absolutely, but something just feels off 🤔,… I also had this gut feeling prior to this new information, but having said that, I probably indulge in far too many crime cases 🙃…

[@vickiekasafirek9096]

Omg this case is becoming a huge mess. My prayers to the family and friends of Abby & Libby🙏💖.

[@crazyoldbat7600]

He was threatened by guards that his family would be harmed if he did not make a call to his wife confessing. Yet, now it's OK to tell everything. What happened to the threat? Not buying a thing in this store.

[@sandibaker5298]

Show of hands; who believes that IF the guards were guilty of the allegations they would admit to it?! What a joke.

[@janie9468]

Wish we would have been able to see all of this evidence come forward in the trial but they need to make sure Allen looks guilty so none of it was let in!

[@violetflame2162]

These girls death have brought light on the VAST corruption that exists within the criminal justice system and how IMPORTANT REFORM IS… imo RIP Abby and Libby 🖤🖤🖤

[@chungkingchungking]

Indiana is a corrupt state through and through and I've lived here for 48 years now and its majorly corrupt top to bottom. Not to mention the activities of white nationalist prison gangs, Odinists in jail and Neo Nazis as well. That's not counting the 92 counties of INdiana that have plenty of crooked good old boy cops many of whom are racist or involved in shady stuff themselves.

[@thetruepatriot7733]

❤

[@Kloops]

I’d like the guy investigated who is the dad to one of the girls boyfriend’s. He had been posting on fb about the religion and laughing and joking and sort of bragging about it.

[@Olopez82]

Why is it Allen been housed in a prison, instead of a county jail?

[@tinfoilhatcovidiot]

So he can be tortured to the point he wither dies or becomes mentally insane and unfit to give real evidence.

[@theodorerobert6774]

The only idea I had was maybe the small town jail doesn’t have adequate housing for a “famous” inmate like him? Like maybe they couldn’t securely house him there?

[@darthmcgee2216]

He asked to be moved from the jail, that's why.

[@sngray11]

@@darthmcgee2216RA has been in this high security prison this entire time. His lawyers are trying to get him moved to a county jail.

[@nicolethiessen8443]

Here's a thought that makes me doubt their whole story, if Allen knew nothing about this all these years and he was told by prison guards to make a false confession, why on earth would they tell him the names of the persons the defense now claims are responsable for the murders. That just makes no sense at all.

[@stevejones148]

Does it say that they told him? Those peoples names have been theorized online for years. Imagine everyone in the small town knew all the names of any suspect. So even if this is a cherry on top lie, I see no way RA wouldn’t know those names.

[@pk-cp1bo]

Names are in the Brady discovery turned over by the prosecution to the defense.

[@flamingpitchfork9168]

Odinism has been around in all states and is now in the US Military: " In May 2013, the "Hammer of Thor" was added to the list of United States Department of Veterans Affairs emblems for headstones and markers.[20][21]

[@phillipaevans4874]

I don't know about the USA's Policies and procedures whilst working in the public and criminal justice arena but in the UK we have to leave our personal beliefs, prejudices etc at the door. Wearing patches that represent a life style or religion etc is a no no, but I will say that I am glad that the information provided by the defense has been proven correct. It means that there is a chance that the truth will come out and the families can get closure

[@athenaastarte1901]

This is the most twisted case Ive ever scene. And Im a murder and serial killer researcher. WTF is going on down there in Southern Indiana.

[@jaxx4040]

It’s central Indiana but yeah

[@kevinhornbuckle]

Mike King is very well-spoken here. Very rational and responsive to the relevant evidence. Anya and Kevin add a lot helpful info and commentary. Much appreciated.

[@wildflowerb2879]

Nobody should be wearing a religious patch on ANY uniform supplied by government or state jobs PERIOD

[@Dj.MODÆO]

The fact that so many pagans live in that area that they have multiple prison guards that are Odinists AND they had enough public and administrative support to actually get their religious patches approved on their uniforms really makes you ask yourself what is really happening there and what the hell are they really doing?

[@jimboogie7732]

All I want to know is why the defense has not released the evidence they have from discovery about his car that was towed off and the items that were taken from RA’s house after the search…

[@CW1971]

Have they had that evidence released to them yet? I thought they hadn't gotten everything yet. They did state that there is no DNA or digital evidence linking him to the girls or Odinism

[@jimboogie7732]

@@CW1971 The state claimed they have given all the evidence that it has to the defense. Either the state has lied about that or they have given it over and the defense just doesn’t want to talk about it because it dooms their client. And I assume they have that evidence because they are trying so hard to get the search warrant evidence thrown out by saying that law enforcement lied on the probable cause affidavit to obtain the search warrant.

[@walnut362]

I believe that nothing was found in or on the car and that nothing was found from the items taken from his home,that’s why they upped the torcher at the prison on Richard Allen.They had to do everything in their power to squeeze a confession out of Allen ,many reports have come out of that prison of how these guards tortured Allen,Even one of the guards has admitted that they were using a shock collar on Allen.

[@MissShellyWebster]

There is a pistol (that much we know), that was taken from his home. On the scene there was a bullet - not used in any way, shape or form. Just bullet between the girls. There's a picture of it. On the ground, or half way bury. No pictures after that, and somehow, after PO take the gun, the bullet match the gun. IMO it si a total set up.

[@raggedysam]

This is a trial that I really hope gets televised...gonna be interesting because the case is just a mess. What we know so far neither has me convinced or unconvinced this guy did it...and even more unconvinced that this was investigated properly to begin with. Makes me think, did the police just want to arrest SOMEONE since this has been unsolved for 5 years? Idk, man...would be an interesting trial to watch.

[@mini_skinny0296]

I hope it's televised, too. But even if we can't see it live, I hope there will be journalists who will transcribe what is going on in court, like Tony Ortega did in the case of Masterson.

[@shilohaugust6749]

I, don't believe Indiana allows televised trials

[@katie29baj]

@shilohaugust6749 it's up to the Judge but trials CAN be televised in Indiana

[@shilohaugust6749]

@@katie29baj believe that crooked thing said no after she wrongfully removed Richard Allen's lawyers.

[@partypeeps172]

I hope they have more evidence than they are showing because I'm not 100% convinced. If they found the jacket he was wearing thatvday and it had their blood on it id be convinced but we don't know what they have as far as actual physical evidence that links him to the crime. If any. I want the families to be able to have the answer but I also do not want to have an innocent person in prison. Meanwhile the actual killer or killers are free to harm someone else.

[@bbaciliere]

WE NEED THE TRUTH to what happened to Libby and Abby! WE NEED JUSTICE!!!

[@snookerb6777]

Nothing happened. It is a PSYOP

[@jamielehman4934]

Abby position tells me the killer had her in a choke hold. She puts her hands up to grab his arm and the killer uses his other hand to slit her throat.

[@Slungmaters]

Was that JLR yelling again!? Lmao I love how they played that and Vinny's eyebrows hit the ceiling. 😂

[@Donutdoesgt69420]

Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion. We should separate all church and state ideology from the government, including governmental positions. Leave it off the uniform. Spirituality is an individual interpretation.

[@kay4725]

ABSOLUTELY!!!

[@Aussiem8e]

How about you put out what the defence has about Elvis fields? And that he told his sisters the day after about putting "horns" on abbey because she was playing up.

[@MrBetc]

RA is being forced to admit to murder.....uh then how did law enforcement charge him in the first place? Oh let's arrest someone yrs after the murders and then once that person is in jail we (law enforcement) will force him to admit he is a murderer of children. End of case. Let the man go free.

[@bunch_o_racket]

would these guards have records of bad behavior if the entire system is made up of a cult?

[@amiep5687]

There's a tarot card with a man hanging upside down with one leg crossed over the other one

[@Ccrawford112]

This is insane what is going on?

[@gailwarnock2764]

How do they know that he wasn't forced to make those calls to his wife . This whole thing is very sus as far as I'm concerned makes you wonder if he's being railroaded . Makes you wonder what the hell is going on in that jail because he is skin and bones is he being starved ? But in the same token it will be interesting how this turns out I really am trying to keep an open mind as to if he did it or not but all this other stuff going on is I think causing a distraction.

[@patriciapadilla2022]

When that Man's first got arrested I could see the fear and Terror and bewilderment on his face. This guy's innocent he's being set up. Some people confess to their families because they feel like it's a lost cause and they don't want them to hang around, this guy is not a criminal Mastermind, if he had a gun he would have shot them he wouldn't have stabbed. He would have shot them, people that are used to hearing gunshots they would not have thought twice. It would have been less messy. This guy's innocent he's a scapegoat he's a patsy he's being framed railroaded completely setup.

[@chuckydall9250]

​@patriciapadilla2022 Lol, you're not serious, right? Of course he looked scared and terrified he was just arrested for double murder of two little girls his life is over!! Innocent people do not confess to their families what are you nuts??

[@ps9292]

He has said he was forced to confess because his family was threatened

[@jimnasium7700]

​@@ps9292his lawyers also claim that he repeatedly asked them if his family was alive and safe at each meeting.

[@CapsFan]

They’ve created reasonable doubt. EDIT - I was just thinking about it, and it would be wild if Allen was friends with those two CO’s. They would’ve set up the perfect way to avoid a conviction using a loophole through patches on a uniform. It makes those 2 CO’s look guilty, due to how the crime scene was set up and causes way too much reasonable doubt against Allen. You also can’t convict them and lock them away for wearing patches…

[@Notwoke7]

I think one of his lawyers saw the first patch and came up with this brilliant defense. They are in It to Win It

[@debbie706]

I get the impression that Richard Allen really isn’t that bright…

[@acason4]

How is “I didn’t do it, it was a pagan conspiracy” actually evidence towards “reasonable doibt. ?? 😆🤦🏼‍♂️ Please provide the line of inference that gets you to that conclusion??

[@tinfoilhatcovidiot]

It would be wild but it isn't fact. Richard is literally being tortured and may not come out alive. No way they would go that far if it was a ruse.

[@jinafromwv6391]

@@Notwoke7nope… the state investigators came up with all it! It was in the discovery handed over to the defense and the LE decided to go with another theory… a crappy one at that! You can’t write this stuff!

[@kell_checks_in]

And, by "confirmed" we mean "still ridiculous, unsubstantiated bullshit."

[@JAZZY_JASMINE-z5n]

But logical and confirmed stuff doesnt get the views now does it

[@franzwohlgemuth2002]

As someone who actually does practice the actual Norse religion... Odinism is a false Norse religion. It was started in the 30's by an Australian Nazi, and originally presented as a monotheistic religion. So, ANYTHING Odinist is full of B.S. Did the antient Norse commit human sacrifice? Yes. However, it was NEVER children. The sacrifices they did have were volunteers or people that had received the death penalty (yes, the Norse had a legal system). So, what happened here is NOT any part of the Norse religion, at all.

[@JOHNDENVER4848]

Just from what I have sean as in "Evidence" there is plenty of room for REASONABLE DOUBT....

[@sleeplessinsilverlakes6637]

Why was he ever put in prison if not convicted? Should have been in county

[@chungkingchungking]

They were worried that enraged locals would have killed him as a arrested man being in the local jail where the county is that the girls were murdered. They moved him to a state prison. Something they don't tell though is that there are plenty of white nationalists or Odinist types in that area who have also been suspects as well as people from Rushville which is over 100 miles from Delphi.

[@mariatorres9789]

Doesn't matter, if guards have a different religious belief. They can be Christian, or Muslim, or Buddhist, or Pagen, or anything they want. That's a distraction from the fact that he was there that day, alone, wearing the same clothes as the guy that's on the video, owns a gun that's the same caliber as the cycled bullet, was seen covered in mud & blood, had backed his car in to hide the plate, and he confessed to his wife, and his mother, on the phone. He ate evidence that they brought to his cell to go over. He's trying really hard to loose weight, so nobody can identify him, and he changed his appearance by shaving different right after it happened. I don't see how anyone could think he's innocent.

[@ps9292]

FYI. Go watch some press interviews. The first person to mention Odinist was Libbys grandma...Becky Patty...

[@darthmcgee2216]

Guys... Down the hill. He has a gun!!

[@ps9292]

@@darthmcgee2216 .mmmm..ok...

[@JOHNDENVER4848]

Why would "Whoever"killed those girls leave a Cell Phone with the bodies????That's RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!

[@dcprimetime8581]

All the time to place the sticks and dress the bodies, but leaves the phone. Sounds like an oversight to say the least. The man on the bridge in the video is RA or at least I’m convinced. But the Odinist thing seems to be what the killer was going for from the filing. Hard to say without seeing the crime scene

[@JOHNDENVER4848]

I agree.

[@JOHNDENVER4848]

It sure looks like him but the fact that the bodies were left the way they were you would think that the "True Killer"would not leave the phone with evidence.

[@jimnasium7700]

In February there'd have been a lot of dead leaves on the ground. Maybe enough to make a dropped phone difficult to find. He also may not have known she recorded him, and carrying it with him could make his route traceable.

[@JOHNDENVER4848]

Yeah this is True but it just seems odd to me.

[@BetweenLawandLaughs]

To the comment of how did Allen know what the patches meant..?? The one patch literally says “In Odin we Trust” And spend some time in Delphi and surrounding counties and you would know that Odinism exist in those areas. Your living in your own world only , step outside your glass house.

[@slaws2279]

Good grief. What a mess this case is.

[@Vnunyabizz]

So I used to think this Odin stuff was crap and ridiculous until I watched Vikings. They definitely kill people to sacrifice to the Gods. Its creepy and believable.

[@brendabrannon3669]

Ya know, at first I thought this was all crazy, now I’m beginning to think differently as there is no hard evidence against RA and if he is found innocent, how sad that he was treated this way….

[@georgia976]

I think it was a police officer and they’re pinning it on this guy

[@darthmcgee2216]

Guys... Down the hill. He has a gun!!

[@NoShiiitSherlock]

10:58 - I would argue that the patches paint the broad brush here and not the defense. The defense dont wear the patches. The correction officers do

[@christinebeharry6113]

Sounds like Mr. Allen and his lawyers saw these patches and saw an opportunity to place the blame on someone else.

[@shilohaugust6749]

You do know his attorneys aren't allowed to lie in court documents? They can ruin their careers and possibly charged. Sorry I had to debunk you

[@alexnorth9740]

Lawyers and not lying? 😂😂😂 They aren't allowed to fake evidence, sure, but "bending the truth" or coming up with crazy conspiracies is all fair game to defend their client. Reasonable doubt is all it tskes.

[@paulf3]

And the fact that people are so obsessed with satanic panic BS they're willing to gobble it up just boggles the mind

[@paulf3]

​@@shilohaugust6749pointing to a possible alternative is not lying.

[@Yash-Gaikwad]

Are you sick​@@shilohaugust6749

[@Justintime619]

Patches??? We don’t need your stinking patches…. lol

[@salpanettieri3115]

Why - why doesn’t anyone talk about how the branches were cut?! Were they cut before the murders or broken in a rush to cover the bodies? And what about the cell phone pings that occurred at 5pm and 4am? Talk about these. Please!

[@Midnight-cf9ph]

Appeared to be cut with a hand saw per reports

[@salpanettieri3115]

Thanks I think this is important to prove it was a ritual killing and not spur of the moment. Who carries a hand saw around with them on a hike?

[@mikecartermulcy]

And this is NOT same at all as wearing a cross on necklace. You cannot put a cross on a uni. The guard needs to be suspended and remove the patches.

[@jamielehman4934]

There is one thing working in RA's favor....the question "How could his wife not have known?" Some ppl speculate that she did know, but I don't think she did. She had a picture of her daughter sitting on that bridge on her FB for years. She didn't remove it until RA was arrested. If you knew your husband was Bridge Guy, would you leave that photo on your Facebook? I wouldn't. So that tells us she likely didn't think he was bridge guy....maybe because he's not bridge guy....

[@BeRightBack131]

Yeah, but most killer's families don't have a clue what their loved one was doing, or so blinded by denial, prompted by love, that they don't see things that were right in front of them. Probably the most profound instance of this was BTKs family. His wife even showed him a newspaper one day and said look at this, BTK misspelled that word exactly the same way you do. Isn't that strange? BTK said if she had continued to question him, he would have killed her, too, but lucky for her, she just thought it was a strange and incredible coincidence.

[@FoundationForFamilyFreedom]

This guy has been framed!

[@F0rsaken123-cm4gj]

Yep!!! Exactly !

[@lawofficesofandrewdmyers]

The 136 Page Memorandum raising Odinism is highly questionable in that it is not supported by an affidavit. In my jurisdictions motions and memoranda must be supported by affidavits unless the facts are apparent in the pleadings. Here, these are new alleged facts never raised anywhere and there is no affidavit. If it were all true it would be a bombshell. A cursory view of Indiana's rules does not show the affidavit requirement. At the same time the court has no obligation to take any of it seriously. These are entirely new allegations, unsupported by an affidavit and the nature of the allegations by common sense and a sense of "justice" are unsupported by an affidavit. Therefore, none of it need be recognized as serious or relevant. In other words I call BS.

[@skichy4793]

Didn't I hear that the original judge in the case left his seat after he was forced to send Allen to the prison he is now in that is meant to host these Odin worshippers? If that is still the case it looks like this might have some very uncomfortable truths hiding in the shadows?

[@KO-ov6kg]

@Vinnie. Your guests put out a pod cast this morning, blaming the defense (with no evidence) of leaking the crime scene photos. The person who sent the photos to their source, Mark Robert Cohen, committed suicide last week. The fact that podcaster Rick Snay, followed up by an announcement from the Murder Sheet, both announced that they had the photos last week. The great irony is their claim of taking the moral high ground and not publishing them. The moral high ground would have been to say nothing after reporting it to LE. But there are no clicks in that, is there? Actions have consequences. "Blame the behavior, not the person." Excuse me, Aine, I blame you, I blame you a lot. I

[@s.wadesmith]

Something about the greenlees irks me. This is a double 🤫🫣not a information contest

[@HumanimalChannel]

The Greenlees are freaking groaa. And snaybis an utter moron.

[@HumanimalChannel]

The Greenlees are freaking gross. and they have "put out" practically every bit of false flag in this case. Im also sick of hearing how they bonked silly over the Burger Shack murders. What has Aine done working as a Journalist? Where did she graduate from? I doubt that they believe any of the junk they release. And snay is an utter moron.

[@fraser_mr2009]

If he's innocent he's in for a big lawsuit.

[@Ghoulsli]

I never questioned if the patches were real. The way it was written came off as the defense attorneys saw the patches themselves. They're not going to put themselves in danger of sanctions from lying to the court. The question is why were they allowed to wear those patches on their prison uniforms? How high does this go? I absolutely believe they've been torturing him in that prison, where he doesn't belong yet anyways. And I don't believe his confession was legit at all. I'm also highly suspect of the bullet they supposedly found at the scene. I don't trust any of the law enforcement/District Attorneys/prison guards in that entire town.

[@traceygeer797]

Amen

[@kay4725]

...."in that entire town" **AGREED!** or ANYWHERE for that matter!!!! The corruption runs deep.

[@WillBlindYouWithLight]

And neither of them have shot wounds

[@rockydubois6052]

lots of police, military and COs are into Odinism.

[@HelloThere-kss]

Celebrate your Religion, BUT DON'T ADVERTISE IT ON YOUR UNIFORM !! NOT AT WORK, ON YOUR UNIFORM !! I AM OFFENDED !! THIS SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED !!

[@bridgette151]

I feel so bad for the families of A&L. Right there is your answer why it has taken 5+ years to get any info out, someone didn’t want the truth revealed. Who would that be? The Delphi police.

[@bridgette151]

@@eremiasranwolf3513 very interesting, will do. Thanks!

[@tosomt5419]

Of ALL the ppl to "frame" they chose a middle-aged man working at CVS who also just happened to be on the bridge, and also happens to be on video telling the girls to go down the hill, and ALSO confessed, and also looks like a creep...they got the right guy

[@JOHNDENVER4848]

The more I watch this video the more it looks like the Defense is on to something....

[@jenniferh.2150]

So are we just ignoring that these arrangements don't match any actual Elder Futhark runic symbols and that an Odinist would know that?

[@petuniab.222]

Ok three things about this theory stands out to me. Let me say first, this odinism sounded like crazy bullshit at first but..... 1. The sticks placed on the bodies mimick Odinism symbols. 2. Patches of odinism worn by RA prison guards. 3. Abbys exboyfriends dad is a member of odinism ( I heard about this fact here on Vinnies show) These three things are facts. So thats enough to tell me poor Richard Allen , who seems to be wasting away physically and mentally, is a third victim

[@Heather-Kayrug]

Richard Allen knew what the patches meant because it says odinism on it! And prisoners talk about it im sure. You can hear Everything from your cell!

[@babs3652]

There is a person who has confessed to his sisters. What happened with that?

[@macnchessplz]

I too would like the subject of Elvis Fields discussed more…

[@chadczternastek]

Can someone do a go fund me page to get that clown Kevin a box of combs? You would think as an attorney this looks unprofessional and sloppy. I can't take him seriously, and I don't get why these two get so much TV time.

[@lisagrace4713]

It explains why the local judge stepped down from threats, and Fran Gull is awesome! Shes very smart, very tough, and very fair! All sides will have a fair trial, and be treated well and just. I feel better knowing she is down there watching over this trial.

[@lonidenham849]

The one guard said "I never had a 'one on one' conversation with the defendant"... I bet he didn't have a one on one, two on one, three on one... I totally believe it!

[@kay4725]

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