Richard Dunn talks about fighting Cliff Field

[@Sebadee80]

Cliff Fields is a total legend of the unlicenced boxing world, and a total gentleman too, R.I.P to the great man👍🏅

[@Top1-l6c1l]

Mr Richard Dunn great man grown up with his grandkids aways had time for all us young ones when he came down to are street. him and his wife just had 50th wedding anniversary

[@tonyx8750]

Sounds like a decent man. Would have destroyed McClean who would never have beaten a proper boxer !

[@ady8084]

My mother was a friend of Richard's family, I remember him coming to visit us when we lived in Shelf on the outskirts of Bradford when I was about 6 years old in the mid 70's. Gave me some child's boxing gloves and had me punching his hands like Mits. Big friendly bloke who I admired greatly growing up.

[@danwhitaker5168]

I used to work at Mr Marvels in Scarborough from 15 to 18 and met Mr Dunn many times never had a clue about his past he was just a nice old bloke with a walking stick.

[@richardwood1575]

He had a terrible accident when working on an oil rig.

[@mauriceosullivan6832]

@@richardwood1575 what happened Richard??.

[@barrymcdonald8566]

Me and Cliff fields (nickname was Chopper) were in the Navy together same ship hard as nails had a few runs ashore with Chopper great bloke and a good mate

[@jshaw4757]

You got any stories about him mate or just how he was n stuff ?..cheers

[@owenmccall632]

Met Richard Dunn on shell tern oil platform in North sea.he was a scaffolder,showed video of his fight with Ali and gave humourous commentary.he was a big gentleman.i think he had a bad accident on another installation,and got seriously hurt.

[@sturner80]

Yes , he was on the Brae B hook up in late 87 . Very nice fella , quiet but dignified . I believe he had a bad accident on the Arbroath platform and that finished his career as a scaff.

[@stevenclark5530]

@@sturner80 my late father in law and his best friend worked on the same platform as him and used to tell me these stories.

[@darrelltregear756]

Just shows the difference in professional boxing, because Richard was classified as a journeyman compared to the likes of Ali, George foreman and all the rest of the champions and contenders, But he had made the most of his boxing skills so fair play to him . and for the unlicensed fighters still very tuff guys with a lot of bottle hard men.

[@samuelspoons3553]

Good to see pictures of Cliff Fields v Lenny

[@seanmckinley522]

He used to run past my house in Bradford when i was a kid great bloke

[@looneytune6955]

Lived near us too from what I remember. Lovely bloke was Dunn, very humble guy.

[@seyab6567]

Lenny lost to Fields Who lost to Dunn who lost to Ali who was past his prime so imagine what a prime Ali would have done to Lenny

[@kevthegoat8774]

It doesn't work like that but yes of course Ali would outclass Lenny

[@brucemedley635]

Or Foreman, Frazier, Quarry, Norton,Shavers,and many many more 70s heavyweights

[@loxleyltd]

Ali would have handed anyones ass to them. But pro boxers aren’t the same as amateur or unlicensed. Different kettle of fish. But I think if you had to choose a London boy to face Ali. I would seriously go with bill the bomb. Might not beat him, but would get further than the rest easy

[@braille5575]

​@@loxleyltdThe bomb or if he would have taken it seriously and had a sound mind Paul sykes was a handful.

[@loxleyltd]

Agreed

[@johnholroyd3864]

Got a nice letter from Cliff Field, wrote to me about his fights with Lennie Mc Clean and how they were friends after the fight Mc Clean borrowing him a coat when they went for a night out! Great man.

[@shanecoolvideostevens9395]

John Holroyd to

[@martinfields7998]

Was his name fields or field

[@NiggaTruth]

if cliff did not have those cheek bones he would of done at good job at pro, same with Henry Cooper those guy's cut really easy

[@curleyteeth]

Richard Dunn was a game but limited heavyweight but would have easily beaten Mclean and Shaw within a round.One after the other without breaking sweat.

[@vim74]

Asked him to fight Mclean . Should have had Bugner up against shaw Mclean . Dunn beat field & people think dunn was a joke great bloke lived near me would have loved ta see him have a go with mclean

[@kevindurand7230]

Game but limited men don't win British, Commonwealth & European titles, sorry but they don't. He was limited against Ali but everyone was

[@jimbo6693]

@@kevindurand7230 Totally agree with that. Richard Dunn was very underestimated. He was probably one of the best heavyweights this country's produced, and a real gentleman to boot. 👍

[@freedomforpeopletruelies6]

I think he definitely would of beat Lenny in the ring.

[@telstar4772]

@@freedomforpeopletruelies6 "You think " He would have killed Mclean inside and outside of the ring in very short order ! Dunne was a former Paratrooper, if I remember correctly he saw action in various hotspots.

[@ivorbiggun7048]

What about Ronnie Pickering? Who? RONNIE PICKERING! That vid.always makes me laugh

[@stedaglivecouk12]

People get boxing and street fighting badly wrong

[@711honved]

There's a lot on You Tube about Roy Shaw & Lenny McLean but Dunstable's Cliff Field was the real deal. Shaw called Field the real Guvnor & Lenny was beaten twice by him.

[@greendogg83]

Or Johnny Waldron, nowhere near as known, considering he knocked Mclean out twice in the first round

[@alsstewart8583]

Yes n this waznt mentioned in lennys book🤔but who wud say by the way I got beat off a bloke called cliffy fieldsx2😁😁

[@dannywalker1890]

I live in dunstable and lived close to cliff in the later stages of his life. A good friend of mine who is in a few books regarding roy shaw was very good friends with cliff and has lots of tales and memorabilia of cliff. Gently giant that was built like a fridge and was just as hard. RIP.

[@markrskinner]

The second word was "off" Love it.

[@martinfields7998]

These men were only hard men where people were afraid of them

[@WELLBRAN]

My Dad went to ganges and was a middleweight champion I still have the Navy medal

[@catpainblackudder01]

Richard dunn, Ex-Para...

[@raydodge4121]

I didnt know there were any pics of Lennie's fight with Cliff out there. Couple of my mates worked as scaffs with Richard, they spoke well of him !

[@stevenmacgregor5506]

Steve mac

[@stevenmacgregor5506]

Cliff was the governor. No doubt about it .

[@vasilishimself9806]

There was a video on youtube, cliff TKO lenny in the third I think, I can't find it now though so it must have been deleted :(

[@edof4827]

There's no videos out there of the Cliff Fields fights or any fights Lenny McLean lost. He lost 6 times and the only fights you find are Lenny beating up old fat men Roy Shaw included. He was years past his best and only a natural middleweight. Roy Shaw said Cliff Fields was the real Governor. Old Joe Pyle loved Lenny so made sure the fights he lost were never seen by anyone outside of the boxing venue. Lenny was useless in the boxing ring.

[@RSR423]

Dunn went 5 with Ali, but spent most of the time on the canvas, but he would of beat Shaw, McClean and he did beat Field easy.

[@MrDanybe]

RSR423 jus shows the difference in levels and to think these fucking clowns say Lenny would of done the likes of Tyson 😂😂

[@jamesriley9472]

Watch the fight again I never seen Seen Ali eat so many jabs from an opponent than he did against Dunn

[@seyab6567]

@@MrDanybe exactly bro 😂😂😂

[@seyab6567]

@@jamesriley9472 he still made short of him and Ali was already past his prime

[@mrvillan6951]

5 rounds with a Ali when Ali was a shadow of the fighter he was in his prime.

[@michaelmoran9399]

Ex para scaffolder decent European level heavyweight . Anybody believes Lenny McLean or Roy Shaw beats this man as the cockneys like to say your having a laauuggh 😁

[@chunknorris2627]

Totally agree fields and Dunn and lew Yates were miles above McLean and Shaw both Shaw and McLean turned down several offers from Bartley gorman too both in and out of the ring I think McLean and Shaw were as hard as each other in there own rights but at least Shaw had the minerals to admit fighting fields was plain silly

[@edof4827]

Richard Dunn would of flattened Lenny McLean and Roy Shaw in the same night. Roy Shaw admitted Cliff Fields was too good for him and Lenny McLean. Which he was he was the real governor. Richard Dunn never fought white collar but he was better than the lot of them

[@icekool007]

@@chunknorris2627 Roy Shaw did not duck Bartley Gorman. He was interviewed regarding this rumour and he didn’t even know who Bartley Gorman was, let alone duck him. I’ll try and find the interview online and then post the link.

[@ifwordswerebulletswaaarpoe6709]

What about Henry Donaghy ? Allan Crossens ? Basil Bell ? John Madden? All very very tough London doormen anyone know these guys all from McLeans era ?

[@karensingh9037]

field was the real deal the rest where show men end off

[@TerryCrodgedy]

Harder men than most tho singhy

[@nipperparr6709]

Richard don't who's talking in this documentary beat Fields!!

[@jimp7173]

Dunn never faught McLean BUT cliff field faught him twice and knocked him out twice. McLean was nothing special apart from two wins against shaw he never really did much in the ring. He had 12 fights with 6 wins and was knocked out 5 times. So much for his 5000 fights lol how meny fights per week for how long too have that meny fights. He was great at mouthing, he had no respect from the unlicensed community because he refused to defend his guvnor status against much better fighters who had beaten him before. You all just listen to the uneducated hope.

[@weedliftlefty5425]

all cockneys are the same..HUGE fucking egos........all working for police

[@liamkeogh5135]

Would love to see some footage, a photo or one little trace of evidence for McLean supposedly being Ko’d 5 times! After he Ko’d Johnny Clarke which is on KZbin, the announcer says “and still the Champion” clear as day. Joey Pyle in an interview from mid 80s clearly says that Lenny McLean is the “Heavyweight Champion”. That’s on KZbin. Loads of evidence for McLean’s success and zero for his supposed failures! Butchered Shaw twice which is backed up with tapes, but if you spoke to Shaw without seeing those tapes he’d have you convinced that he was way better than McLean!! That’s what we are seeing here.

[@redstriper1601]

@@liamkeogh5135 roy shaw was much older than mclean and he still hammered him in their first fight before mclean got juiced up. There is lots of evidence of his defeats 2 from cliff fields 2 from jonny waldron and one from kevin paddock!!!

[@liamkeogh5135]

Red Striper I’ve heard all this before but where is the evidence?

[@redstriper1601]

@@liamkeogh5135 are you being serious? Roy Shaw spoke about McLean's losses in interviews, then Johnny Waldron released a book which talked about the 2 times he beat McLean, Cliff Fields released a book in which he talked about the two times he beat McLean, Lew Yates book also talked about the McLean losses and that's just to mention a few, just do a bit of research online and you will find out all about the losses

[@kendodd8734]

I remember the fight with Ali he was way out of his depth but for a domestic fighter he weren’t bad just no way in the league of the Ali’s of this world but he at least he can say he shared a ring with a legend

[@gerpool7]

dunn wouldve destroyed lenny

[@bertramlefarge69]

Dunn would come out for the start of a fight with 1/2lb of grease over each eyebrow.

[@DavidUKesb]

Boxing is all about levels. Someone can look fantastic at one level, then ordinary at a higher level, and get battered at a higher level again. Ali>Bugner>Dunn>Fields>McLean.

[@darrenharrison162]

Proper boxers like dunn n paul sykes would of destroyed McLean

[@shaunmufc58]

Maybe in the ring but never outside, people always forget Lenny was never a boxer.For what its worth i believe pound for pound (lb 4 lb)roy shaw was the best of the lot when you consider his size.

[@chunknorris2627]

Outside of any ring I hedge my bets on Yates or McLean being unbeatable in a street fight the size of them and the sheer ferocity of them were something else on the cobbles McLean would have murdered Shaw and fields duno about Yates tho

[@richardtuffnell9886]

And so they should,there's a lot of difference between a pro boxer ,and a bouncer come street fighter.

[@johndean4765]

How can you say Dunn was a proper boxer He was very limited.Joe Bugner very overrated but he talked a good fight period.

[@stevekeenan3352]

did Dunn beat McLean?

[@vim74]

Yes i heard he did

[@vim74]

Soz got it wrong dunn beat field he never fought mclean

[@seyab6567]

No but he beat Fields who beat McLean

[@johnniethepom2905]

@@seyab6567 Duran beat Barkley , Barkley beat Hearns and Hearns beat Duran . Styles make fights . Personally I believe Dunn or Sykes would have beaten McClean , but you just never know on the day .

[@alanmeires]

It wor a dinner show you no toffs like that ??????? Yes I know what you mean were every boxer in England starts there boxing career... Why he says toffs I do not know because the people at the dinner boxing shows in England are not toffs they are normally the local villains and local people or business men . End of story.

[@Benny18-18]

In them days they were toffs,as they were different in them days,.Richard was a unpretentious working class man,a scaffolder actually who was horribly injured in an Industrial accident on an oil rig and as usual never received the compensation he deserved. I take his word as truth.

[@rahowherox1177]

Lol. He's a northerner, anyone with a job or 5£ is posh.

[@shaunmufc58]

Fair play to richard dunne for getting in with ali,mind you bugner put paid to him lol

[@kentishtowncowboy]

shaun fraser You are right. For me, though, Bugner was affronted that Dunn got into the Ring with Ali and actually tried to give it a go and to fight Muhammad. Bugner had 2 bouts and never ever threatened Ali. There was a photo of him seemingly attacking Ali and it was published in the Daily Mirror and more. It's not a true picture as it was the only time Bugner made an aggressive move. When Bugner got in with Dunn, he just behaved like a Bully and my opinion of Joe fell lower. Cheers

[@shaunmufc58]

Fair point mate

[@modigbeowulf5482]

+kentishtowncowboy ... JB had an early fight with a boxer whose name escapes me right now. But, the boxer died. I'm told JB never really was aggressive in the ring again. Well, we saw that, so maybe that is the real reason.

[@Benny18-18]

Jack Bodel

[@johncarroll772]

It was Dunns biggest payday fighting Ali, Muhammad never ducked anyone, unlike todays fighters.

[@weedliftlefty5425]

i fought him 9 times and won

[@johndean4765]

In your dreams weedlift

[@peteraustin370]

I guess it's horses for courses.....The likes of Ali ..Dunn..today's Joshua..etc....would have easily beaten Lenny or Shaw in the ring.......but...in the back yard of a pub....??!!??

[@whoopwhoop1207]

It’s amazing how you only ever hear about the southerners being hard men!....for many years it’s been a known fact that northerners are harder than southerners. The only difference is we don’t shout about it we just get in with it. Dunn would of beat the lot of them and so would have Paul Sykes. But you never hear about them.

[@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069]

Paul sykes. Now thats a name i aint herd since i was 8. Fuck me he was a hard bastard. Mc clean kept out his way. Turned down a fight with sykes. Poor bastard died a penniless drunk.

[@seabassmcgee3367]

Its always been a harder life up north so stands to reason the people grow up tougher, but dont forget the southerners bore the brunt world war 2 so must have gained some fighting spirit from that

[@seabassmcgee3367]

@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 I've no doubt Sykes would have beaten McLean in the ring, he was a much better boxer, but I think a fight was arranged but got cancelled because Sykes got into a fight with some doormen and got injured, think they've both said that

[@MrLiquidator67]

@@seabassmcgee3367 Sykes got beaten by a doorman called Terry Mitchell from Leeds.Sykes needed 8 stitches that is why his fight with Lenny was called off.

[@edof4827]

Paul Sykes beat a prime Roy Shaw twice very easily. Both fights didn't last more than 30 seconds each. Paul Sykes was supposed to fight Lenny McLean but got injured before the fight. So.They brought in a middleweight to fight Lenny. The middleweight gave Lenny a hiding. If he had of fought Paul Sykes it Paul would of been the best fighter Lenny ever fought. Paul Sykes would smashed Lenny McLean to pieces. He was on a different level. Also after Lenny was beaten by the middleweight he never asked to fight Paul Sykes again. And Joe Pyle never asked Paul for the money he had paid Paul upfront. I wonder why 😎

[@roywilliams3439]

Cv&

[@SDSen]

These were petty boxers, no skill or craft Cliff Fields, Dunn the whole lot of them

[@Rebelconformist82]

So fields basically dunn the whole lot of em as I understand it?

[@edof4827]

Richard Dunn was a decent heavyweight at British and European level. He wasn't world class but certainly levels above Lenny McLean and Roy Shaw even Cliff Fields who he did beat.