Richard Stallman as Saint IGNUcius (Emacs vs Vi)

Richard Stallman talks about Emacs and Vi during his speech "A Free Digital Society" in Modena, Italy on November 24th, 2014. More info here: stallman.org/saint.html

[@user-vn9ld2ce1s]

If i ever hear someone saying this community is not a cult, i'm referring them to this video.

[@AcidiFy574]

Except that it's a fun cult

[@user-vn9ld2ce1s]

@@AcidiFy574 indeed

[@borregoayudando1481]

sure, nothing wrong with cults as long as it doesn't produce wrongful deaths.

[@sheeplord4976]

@@borregoayudando1481 Considering that most military hardware runs on Linux, it is arguable that it has caused some deaths . . . sorta.

[@borregoayudando1481]

@@sheeplord4976 doesnt guarentee its wrongful

[@santinocampos4566]

"and linux is ONE of its kernels" Throwin shade there RMS

[@OEFarredondo]

Santino Campos got me all tearful

[@TheLemonMasterYT]

he's talking about the 0% that run bsd

[@tylerdean980]

@@TheLemonMasterYT he’s talking about GNU HURD. Though GNU can use the FreeBSD kernel

[@twl148]

@@tylerdean980 gnu hurd is so unmaintained that the plan9 distro 9front has more hardware support than hurd

[@ianchen6269]

Vi Vi Vi, pure genius

[@ashrasmun1]

@Tiandrainy Mandresy Billy Andriamahazomandimby third eye?

[@armynyus9123]

NOW I get it, the number of the beast :-) Thanks mate!

[@Ricocossa1]

It took me seeing it written to get the joke! XD (I'm a proud Vitanist btw)

[@AxelWerner]

@@armynyus9123 no! The EDITOR or the beast ;)

[@ErnestoStaccolanana]

"there is no system but GNU and linux is one of its kernels"!!!

[@ZelenoJabko]

Emacs is an excellent operating system, the only thing it lacks is a decent text editor.

[@Ghfvhvfg]

Why learn Emacs its so mutch more.

[@FLMKane]

Just use vi as your editor in emacs

[@fikrirahmatnurhidayat4988]

@@FLMKane evil mode man.

[@FLMKane]

@@fikrirahmatnurhidayat4988 nah dude. Pull m-x term and then just type in vi. Then use actual vi

[@vdochev]

Thank you, Saint IGNUcious! Both my laptops and my desktop are blessed!

[@carlosalba9690]

Blessed are the words professed by St IGNUcius!

[@auntiecarol]

vi, vi, vi: the number of the beast. RMS at his best!

[@murderface3r]

vim??

[@murderface3r]

maybe sudo vim

[@jeniamtl6950]

this man has made trillions of dollars to the economies of the world

[@KingdomofSmileys]

In what way?

[@jeniamtl6950]

By launching the GNU OS and personally writing two of the three most important software in that OS: GCC and GDB (the third is Linux). The "lesser" software: Awk, GRUB, X-Windows, Bash, Xorg... were added to the GNU by a multitude others but it was made possible by the GNU initiative itself and using the GCC/GDB.

[@vasylvoina6663]

​@@jeniamtl6950 The compiler for C language already existed when GCC was created.

[@jeniamtl6950]

@@vasylvoina6663 It wasn't free. It was owned by AT&T I think. In any case, he wrote the GNU gcc

[@jeniamtl6950]

@Михаил Зинзивер yea... published as a book. Mixail, respectfully, I suspect that you're wrong because if it were free, then Stallman would have simply used it or someone would have compiled it and used it. The fact that it wasn't used, tells me that it either was a toy or there were some other problems with it.

[@marcosoliveira8731]

I love this guy!

[@murderface3r]

o melhor

[@AxelWerner]

What a crazy old hippy.... but i love em!

[@liftlinux9421]

I am listening his voice for first time :D

[@samiehessi8163]

apparently (vi)olence begins with vi.. haha

[@hiankun]

Thank you for mentioning it. I didn't get it until read your comment. :-D

[@hrnekbezucha]

My heaven is your hell $ set -o vi

[@hexa3389]

Based.

[@paschikshehu7988]

oh please no

[@babciaprowadzacego3956]

From set(1P) manpage for anyone wondering: -o vi Allow shell command line editing using the built- in vi editor. Enabling vi mode shall disable any other command line editing mode provided as an implementation extension. It need not be possible to set vi mode on for certain block-mode terminals.

[@ramkumarr1725]

Saw this live❤🎉

[@KarthikS30712]

Honestly though... His good work has changed the face of operating systems. If not for the GNU Linux combo, Microsoft, Apple and Sun would've squeezed money out of every byte processed.

[@antoniobarbalau1107]

Amazing ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@inventorOz84]

He wouldn't have accepted this video to be uploaded to KZbin and even me typing on this website 😀

[@ctoid]

1:30 "There is no system but GNU, and linux is one of its kernels."

[@TimJSwan]

There is no system but TempleOS... wait what?

[@murderface3r]

great guy

[@furkanitor]

I installed emacs immediately, even though I don't know why

[@furkanitor]

@Monk oh yeah its my main editor now

[@resolveseed6913]

@@furkanitor Still goin'?

[@furkanitor]

@@resolveseed6913 using windows for gaming now lol

[@TymexComputing]

Veni Vidi Vim!

[@murderface3r]

stallman is the best! omelhor

[@insanecbrotha]

Is evil-mode evil?

[@paschikshehu7988]

I mean, it's basically (e)macs + (vi) + (l)isp.

[@hexa3389]

emacs + vi vi vi is still vi vi vi so yeah

[@insanecbrotha]

@@hexa3389 but it shows a fundamental truth of the faith: In the light of Emacs, vi is just a fancy set of key bindings!

[@MsDuketown]

Total radical! If it fit's in a box, it's a system and it started being called UNIX.

[@yacobs2172]

Free software is an eternal idea for those who want the freedom to learn and manage source code

[@alphabennyrosy5068]

Where are the kakoune fanboys ??? Anyone ? ☹️😭

[@astraldreamhead193]

I love this guy so much, emacs or viper I can't decide

[@nonenothingnull]

Evil mode on emacs

[@VanStabHolme]

@@MrGincone NeoVim > Vim

[@AcidiFy574]

Viper ???

[@poni-sz2pm]

@@AcidiFy574 I'm guessing he wanted to write vi but it got auto-corrected on a phone

[@friedrichmyers]

​@@nonenothingnull I advocate for Vanilla Emacs

[@oonegan]

if you have penguin at your home you need to get a GNU for your penguin.

[@user-wg2by1yi9d]

There is a GNU toy at fsf store.

[@shallex5744]

a penguin can hardly function without a gnu

[@smiechu47]

120 euros for a GNU kissed by Stallman himself

[@scottpascal3099]

I Romania he got double.

[@tkmh3276]

small price to pay for salvation

[@johndebord7802]

2 Peter 3:3-7 "Knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.” For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, and that by means of these the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished. But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly."

[@treyquattro]

vi vi vi may be the number of the beast, but thankfully not the wildebeest

[@wojteksowinski248]

What about doom emacs?

[@tapank415]

Emacs Rocks!!

[@SumriseHD]

It should be a Text Editor, not a Rocking OS

[@AcidiFy574]

@@SumriseHD Emacs is a productivity environment

[@TheTuxMaster]

humor!!! Vi Vi Vi!!!

[@Shardrk23]

Does it mean that I'm the beast since I was the 666th up vote?

[@Profile__Name]

Based

[@tenthconcept]

VSCode with vim emulation super dark devolpr theme

[@AcidiFy574]

Pu55y Use VS-Codium at the very least

[@ThePandaGuitar]

So funny 😂🤣

[@itsasecrettoeverybody]

Forgive me father I'm a sinner. I'm treading the path of vim. I can understand the mess... I mean... The holy greatfull of emacs.

[@6bim4uYGfeGSM4jdEm9g2]

2:25

[@zeocamo]

threre is only 1 editor that you can use and that is NeoVim

[@alphabennyrosy5068]

100% neovim is soooo good.

[@FennecTECH]

Ive done my best. Running FOSS stuff on my iPad. And i can run emacs

[@rodholseth6354]

I sorely need a gnu for my penguin! The poor thing doesn't want to do anything...

[@dimitristzikas5695]

i am a vi user :)

[@manoelnt0]

I'm a emacs users which uses vim/neovim as well... but vi is just unsupportable.

[@tux9730]

BUT IT'S A SIN TO USE NON-FREE SOFTWARE, IT'S WRITTEN IN THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OF THE CHURCH OF EMACS

[@netbotcl586]

@@tux9730 why is vi nonfree tho?

[@AhmedThaking]

@@netbotcl586 Vi is non-free software. Vim however is free and open-sourced

[@libremercadoencrisiseconom2118]

@@AhmedThaking do you see why open source is better?

[@timcooper2568]

vi is primitive at best, and if you need a "smaller emacs", zile is available. i have both emacs and zile on my pinephone

[@filipesantos3745]

Zile is really awesome

[@SumriseHD]

Vi is what it should be. A text editor.

[@iskamag]

Of course vi is prinitive, it's a Unix coreutil.

[@sheeplord4976]

@@SumriseHD It is a text editor, but EMACS is a text environment, one where you can type any sort of text from code to math books. VIM is fine for changing a few basic scripts, but it is nowhere near EMACS in its capabilities.

[@charlieking7600]

​@@SumriseHDno, it's nano.

[@nonenothingnull]

If only emacs could thread. Or rewroten into parallel lisp...

[@speed488]

why?

[@ancientapparition1638]

to use multiple cores?

[@Ryudmilla]

LMAO IGNUtius

[@samfreelancer2657]

Gnu operating system is a miracle cause it came out of a virgin :)

[@aneeshprasobhan]

i use windows

[@DaneilDa]

have a heart and read it (2Peter ምዕራፍ 3) ---------- 1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in [both] which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance: 2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour: 3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as [they were] from the beginning of the creation. 5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 [Seeing] then [that] all these things shall be dissolved, what manner [of persons] ought ye to be in [all] holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. 15 And account [that] the longsuffering of our Lord [is] salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know [these things] before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. 18 But grow in grace, and [in] the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him [be] glory both now and for ever. Amen. #Ethiopia #Orthodox #Chirstian

[@mrgamertag]

I feel like I can smell him 😩

[@damejelyas]

24 dislikes from windows and macos users

[@Bigfootdude]

So many puns...

[@leshommesdupilly]

Notepad users vs Emacs users

[@davoxime]

saint ñu

[@aneesahmad2824]

vi vi vi 666

[@pspvita99]

This is good and bad. I get the idea that people dont want to be controlled or told how they can use software and I get that people/ some people may not want Microsoft,Google,Apple,Facebook and other big companies and the government to get more powerful and control us/surveillance us, I also get if theirs a problem with the code/program/software, it would be allot easier and better, at times and in certain situations, to just add in code to fix the problem or code something to go along with the software, to use the software how you need to, and to make the software better, but at the same time, by giving the software away/ allowing people/Users/Google/Microsoft/Facebook/Apple/The Government/terrorist/who knows who, to alter the code, creates allot of vulnerabilities, meaning now some one could add malware to the software, to track what your doing/ just be destructive over all, just for fun or, because there bored. Security needs to work to the users benefit, not the companies, but at the same time, sometimes the companies benefit is also the users/employees benefit. This comment could go on for a long time, if I explained/showed different point of views and really broke everything down, but I am gonna try and sum up the gist of it. For one security, if we didn't have encryption/VPNs it would be bad, for everyone; although yes encryption can be used destructively on the corporate/business side, Government side, along with the consumer/user and also the hacker side, I also realize that different people define the word hacker differently, meaning some people use the word as in, someone that tinkers/alters certain things/computers/devices, to work for them/ to create, but essentially hacking is the same thing, in the breaking into/destroying systems/stealing peoples data, definition as well, if you really think about it. With hacking your looking for vulnerabilities with in systems to exploit them, for what ever your trying to accomplish, so in a sense there one in the same. Also Crackers are something completely different, crackers, crack passwords/guess/figure out passwords, thats usually considered a manual task/done by the cracker, you can also use cracking software as well, but hacking and cracking are two different things; yes a hacker and a cracker can do the same things/have knowledge of both, but doing tasks that involve figuring out passwords is considered cracking, unless were referring to social engineering/ looking for a place were a password is written down on paper, or looking in a computer with no password, and clicking into a file/folder that says passwords, or finding and exploiting something with in software/ a program, that allows you to read or get someones password. Also theres also a fine line between hackers as well, there is white hat hackers, they are considered to be ethical/good hackers, that look for vulnerabilities with in computers/networks/systems, to patch those vulnerabilities with in a computer/network/system, to make them more secure; a Grey hat hacker is someone that might do what a white hat hacker does, but they may also download movies and music from secure sites or more specifically, they may break into and alter things with in programs to benefit them selves; this goes against software licenses; and is put in place to protect the developer and protect the user in some cases, but the main thing to take away from this, is a grey hat hacker isn't intentionally trying to hurt/harm anyone, but they are hacking things to benefit them selfs, but getting software without paying; and the last category is black hat hackers and they want to cause damage to servers/networks/monitor people/ there intention is to harm users and networks/ to do illegal things or take peoples money. So the point is we need passwords, also I highly recommend two step verification as well, along with encryption/security to protect us/our data and we definitely dont need to give everyone access to source code, thats as crazy as allowing business/corporate/the government to control us, there needs to be a sweet spot/ a way to protect everyone, Also I am almost a hundred percent sure that GNU Linux has something in it, that protects the OS/Source code/kernel/ROM, from being altered, if not they need to be taught a lesson, the hard way and add something in, that would be catastrophic to the OS/Operating System and its users, just to show how important security/encryption, VPNs and passwords and two step verification is; but I also get that programmers/developers need to get paid for there work and I also get that some software wouldn't be free/allowed to be downloaded with no payment up front, with out a caveat/ a catch and that catch is, companies taking your search history and what your buying online and selling it to companies, to pay for the software developed. Also you could also argue in the GNU OS/Operating System, your having to do something similar to pay for the software, the users are adding to the code to make a profit, so no one has to hire someone to code, what people are getting to use for free, on top of this though, you can still make a profit with the OS, reason being is the copy right/license agreement, people can use the OS for free, but they cant sell it, with out paying something for the distribution rights, so yes people are still getting paid, theirs just less profit going on, compared to other OSs/ Operating Systems; Also back to traditional OSs/Operating systems/profit plans; Now you can muddy the water/ make your info online not accurate/also encrypt and use a VPN, but if everyone does this, then most likely companies are going to come to the conclusion that selling peoples information isn't worth it, any more, and then your copy of windows will cost more or not be free anymore. You may say, I dont care Linux is free, but Windows is used for banking and to get a really good experience with gaming, out of the box, you will need windows, so most likely there are going to be some people that are going to have to pay for windows; Also I'm not saying you shouldn't have security in place, you should; I'm just saying that, one everyone has to make money, so if selling data isn't working out, then software is going to cost more up front. Also it is not fun, not knowing whats in your firmware or needing to check everything to make sure, or if you cant see it, deleting it and coding your own software and encrypting it, because then you will know what its designed to do, but thats what security is all about. What would be more practical/ what I think would make more sense with his/Richard stallman's movement, is to create a software/OS/Operating System/Kernel/Rom; Every copy of that OS should have a VPN/HTTP Every Where, encryption out of the box for files/everything, Ad Blocker, blockers for other things he doesn't like such as java script, with in reason though and have the ability to toggle/ turn these things on and off individually, really good security, directly out of the box/download, that just runs, it should also require a password two step verification and also have software that goes on your phone that puts a mobile version of GNUs OS/Operating System on your device, also custom firmware, that doesn't track you/data mine/ also have the ability to, if you want to go all out buy custom hardware/machine/ Richard Stallman approved hardware; also people could also add there own code to the OS/Operating System as well, but updates/add ons would need to be approved; yes that doesn't make updating something as easy, but it goes with the actual cause and thats to keep big brother/the government/facebook/google and so on, off your back/out of your private business; doing this creates vulnerabilities though, but thats part of what Richard Stallman's about, is the user to be able to add code when they want, but Richard also doesn't want big brother/the government/google snooping either, so thats why things should mandatorly need to be approved, and only be able to be uploaded while there VPN is on/running. This would makes allot more sense vs giving everyone the keys to the kingdom. Also yes I'm sure apple,Android and Amazon want to sensor things/remove bad things from there store, but on top of that, the reason you can't just upload anything to these places, is because of malware/viruses and so on/ more importantly security, yes I Know apple,Microsoft and so on have there own malware tools, such as, example; Microsoft/Windows 10 and Diagtrack and Dmwappushservice, which can be deleted and should be deleted. Point being this makes allot more sense to the over all cause, how its currently laid out is contradicting and basically pointless.

[@justinveilleux1165]

that's a lot of text

[@thetreeofclues]

ok

[@treyquattro]

ease up on the coffee, dude

[@monkeymode72]

disregarded

[@jimmyneutron129]

so you should learn to aerate your text, i'm not gonna read this stuff

[@ramkumarr1725]

We do not care. He is atheist. All my software belongs to him. ❤

[@LethalBubbles]

it is absolutely foolish to emulate monotheism as an advocate for freedom against the software orthodoxy. You should be emulating the pagan and jewish philosophers or christian heretics, who said "no" to the dangerous Modalist/Trinitarian literalist cults that burned all history, all possibilities but it's own restrictive path, even though the interpreter should be the reader. There are many gods, many software possibilities (but only if the user has the freedom to use them), and many ways of life.