Talking With a Woman About Why Women Are So Unhappy

[@AmbuBadger]

There's a certain reaction that every married man listening to this will have the moment they hear Jenna say _"I'm not here to argue, I just wanted to say..."_

[@moff_unplugged]

Bingo

[@Ggg-nv5ly]

So what's the response to thatv

[@jbusiness8247]

Dont fools just want to hear their own opinions?

[@nightfangs2910]

As if for any woman there's a difference between those two statements 🤣🤣

[@Son-of-Krypton]

When a woman says I’m not trying to argue… You know damn well you about get blasted with arguments. 😎

[@theharshtruth8563]

I'm one of those men that when women ask "where are all the good men?" ....I'm him. After buying my own modest sized home in 2005 and paid it off in full by 2015, I stood at the finish line celebrating my own success alone because there were no women that struggled with me in that journey. So when the pandemic hit in 2020, I wasn't hit as hard as I only paid land tax once a year and my cost of living was modest. I've gotten plenty of offers from women who were getting kicked out of their homes to offer to live with me until their got through this time of financial collapse. I declined every offer. Women are unhappy because they realized that now that times are hard, they need us only now. You were absent during my struggle so you aren't invited to share my successes.

[@shanepatrick641]

Very true brother! And well done for what you have achieved. Wishing you all the best

[@carlosaldrete4960]

Congrats man , equity is the way

[@andrewactingwayne]

Yup yup. Truth is, women don't give 2 shits about men's struggles... ...unless said struggles directly affect them!

[@denisblack9897]

my bitch kept moaning about how i give more attention to my business now that there is no business - i'm a broke dude thats suffocating her with attention fuck this shit, i lost so much money calming her childhood trauma tantrums down, instead of getting my bikes and guitars

[@mco4972]

Good call, dude

[@professormoriarty6875]

Women are never happy. You can't make them happy. Put a woman in a castle and give her everything she needs and wants, and she will still be unhappy. Put a man in an apartment and give him a computer, internet, and a sixpack of beers and he will be happy.

[@Son-of-Krypton]

Facts ☝🏼

[@santiagogold446]

Truth!

[@bigneiltoo]

You just ripped off Citizen Kane (1941)!

[@bigneiltoo]

On my third date with my favorite girl we were walking in midtown Atlanta and I said "See all these buildings? You know why they made these? To please you. If it was just men we'd be happy with tents and Nintendos".

[@mulhollanddriven4520]

This is the truth right here. It feels nice to make a woman happy for awhile but shit gets old and you get to an age you dont give af anymore.

[@caterinadelgalles8783]

I am a woman. I live in Russia now but I have also lived all over. U gotta toughen up and I have a strong Dad and brother. My female friends with no male influence are fucking delusional.

[@h.u.l.k.7072]

It is very rare for a woman to admit that.

[@anthonystone2089]

Disney princess syndrome makes everyone delusional.

[@scottyb.8710]

@@h.u.l.k.7072 That’s because she’s not from the West.

[@offlier]

There are plenty of fathers who are in the home but aren't there...even when they're there. My dad demanded my mom to let me go so that I could spend time with him. She fought it but eventually she trusted I was okay. Thank goodness because she was nuts.

[@h.u.l.k.7072]

That's true.

[@robertcollins7034]

When i was a teenager my grandfather noticed me looking at a lady and he said " she is pretty but you wait till she wants a New kitchen! " wasnt until i was a adult i knew what he was on about ! Woman are never happy with what they have always wanting bigger and better !!

[@offlier]

Common sense tells you money and things spoil the lot.

[@riproar11]

@Robert Looks like you didn't get the memo that they stopped charging for capital "I" 's.

[@HotToddyHotToddy]

Um, don't YOU want bigger and better...? Are you a poorly educated deplorable?

[@lumberluc]

Wise grandpa. Never to knew mine personally

[@scottmatthews537]

Your grandfather was dispensing wisdom.

[@malone4735]

“Women have more Rights than ever Before but yet they are more Miserable than Ever Before” -Cheek Slaying Gospels💯

[@skyward_rebel]

Women also have more privileges than ever before

[@Macheako]

​@@skyward_rebel bingo. they got Privileges, not Rights. Rights are something you have to actually fight for 😂

[@arianalushtaku4329]

so are men thats why 80% of suicides are commited by men 😕

[@kissme1518]

They never lived in your grandmother's time. If they never suffered they would never understand why it's good to have rights

[@josec3823]

I'm 3 yrs Divorced after being married for 20 years.. I've dated quite a few women around my age or over 38.. I can honestly tell you that all of them hate being alone and don't recognize for the most part it's their fault. It's different for us MEN or at least the vast majority.. I have no problem living alone.. I enjoy coming home every to live a quiet and peaceful life... I'm comfortable living by myself.. Happiness just follows me 😉👍

[@joecampos7999]

Keep up the good work mate!

[@paulthurson]

i'm 57 .. have never married .. i date 20 years younger on average but that's it .. date only .. i also live alone and feel exactly as how you described .. 100 brutha!

[@davidedbrooke9324]

Absolutely correct.

[@igorlang884]

Quiet and peaceful life is where it’s at, no need to complicate.

[@moriscondo5511]

I very frequently wish I had an argument with wife videotaped so I could play it back for her to show her what she just said a few minutes ago and now denies. I honestly think she forgets that quickly and doesn't have the ability to form a coherent narrative of her position. She doesn't see her own contradictions and it's so damn frustrating.

[@Son-of-Krypton]

Taking advice from women on how to date a woman is like asking fish how to catch a fish 😂

[@samobispo1527]

No, it is more like asking a fish how to perform a bris.

[@arreng2364]

agree... men should take advice from Aquaman instead 🤣

[@leonelorozco2514]

An online prostitute giving men dating and life advice. Worse then a homeless man giving finantial advice.

[@interesting2491]

It’s like asking a fish how to walk on land

[@jinkazama2555]

u know it, they reallly are full of crap and think they are high in intelligence.

[@papinoo1159]

This woman talked 99% of the time and then she says to you guys you need to listen. This is classic female BS! Absolutely nothing productive happened here!

[@J.B.1982]

Thanks for saving me the time. Lol. Most of these conversations I’m seeing on KZbin are useless. Almost zero women are accountable on anything and won’t give a damn inch on how women are behaving. One excuse after another and constant disagreement

[@elijahwise3060]

@@J.B.1982 Dude, it was a complete waste of time.

[@oldsalt524]

@@elijahwise3060 a waste of time for her because she can't learn. The men watching are seeing who whamen really are and how they aren't logical. One step closer to delete the 19th

[@mariog3326]

Delusional that what that is! It's freakin crazy how delusional they are.

[@TGP109]

Did you really think he'd bring on a different kind of woman? Lol, he wouldn't have a channel if he did, anymore than the goons on Fresh and Fit would. If those guys didn't pick the most delusional club girl, they wouldn't make any money off you.

[@Ggg-nv5ly]

"It's all about delivery" - this is what women say when they know they're wrong but don't want to admit it.

[@lumberluc]

They can't admit it. Heck, even men won't admit it because they have their head so far up the asshole that they say "That's Tuesday"

[@neodub7718]

Delivery doesn't change truth.

[@davidreyes3030]

Yea I agree that we can be more diplomatic but they can also grow thicker skin.

[@dreday77764]

thats when they pull the emotional card on you because they cant handle the logic

[@SprezzaturaLifestyle]

Not at all ! Woen are right about that and it is even scientifically proven. When making a presentation to people only 30% of the information transmitted is what you actually say and 70 % is how you say it. It is presentation basics. Aside from that in addition women listen way more to emotions than logic. Men quite the contrary. So if you say nice things to women in a state of anger, all they will hear is anger and not the nice things you say. If you attack them and transmit positive vibrations they will not hear the attacks. The fact that lots of men don't get this just proves that they don't interact with women a lot. Otherwise they would understand this.

[@unacceptableviews6231]

Rich's advice literally saved my Marriage. I was a Beta bitch my whole life, as soon as I started chasing excellence, and having the Alpha mindset, I saw a dramatic change in my wife's behavior.

[@Chunkytenders]

This comment is so cringe "alpha mindset" alpha beta sigma they don't exist

[@unacceptableviews6231]

@@Chunkytenders Let me help you out... if your name is chunky tenders, and you use the word "cringe". You're a Beta.

[@natecoleman7985]

@@Chunkytenders You are proof Beta’s exist

[@Chunkytenders]

I checked out a long time ago. I just work and work out and take care of my parents and my dogs. Like I said all this beta alpha talk is retarded. I don't even play the game anymore I'm done. Good for you alpha guy, keep on smashing BRUHHHH

[@kingspeech2240]

@@Chunkytenders yeah they do even if not by those names you goof ball

[@rodak6663]

Hey richard i am 99 and i finally hit my peak There are millions of women throwing themselves at me knowing they will inherit my wealth

[@phantomvox]

😂

[@jpb9524]

As long as you realize “they don’t love you for you!”

[@Son-of-Krypton]

Choose an Anna Nicole type 😎

[@danzo3879]

Bruh 🤣🤣🤣

[@bellavega8048]

@@Son-of-Krypton not possible if you not rich

[@Falconlibrary]

It's been proven that too many choices make us unhappy. Women, through social media, have been given the *illusion* of more choices than they can handle. Men don't have that problem.

[@HowTwo007]

Women for the most part are poor decision makers. They need an intellegent father, brother or husband to help them. On their own they will pretty much self destruct. Throw in social media and having too much choices, just makes it even worst

[@J.B.1982]

Yeah we do, it’s called internet porn. It has ravaged men’s sexuality. Same as internet dating for women. Women don’t need naked men, they need the validation and connection

[@creamstonmcdickinballs4069]

So well put!!!

[@rbfarrell1]

True! Most of the guys are also messaging 100 other girls at the same time. And the attention women are getting is for Pu$$y. I mean a Starbucks coffee cost much less then a H$E. So the guys just throw out the line and try hook a Pu$$y basically a pump and dump.

[@arianalushtaku4329]

talk about yourself only , many choices makes women happy and we can replace a man with another in a second and we live life on easy mode , life can't be better than this 😊

[@EadsB7002]

It’s pretty obvious to me why so many are (& i’m a woman) … 90% of them are too caught up in the comparison trap of social media …AND seeking constant attention on social platforms as well. This is where LOTS of issues have originated.

[@reanschwarzer2187]

Yeah that’s one of the issues I’d argue one of the bigger ones as well is being pleasant to be around. Women forgot how much a great to see you and a smile can improve a guys day. But women don’t seem to have that elegant subduction down. If a modern wife today wanted new wood floors cause they were worn out she’d ask and potentially argue over it. Now maybe people consider this manipulative but before a women could literally just trip on some broken wood or worn out peace and the husbands gonna get up and be like what happened look at the flower and be like o we need to get that fixed. It’s small things women have 0 power in a combative argument they got 100% power when you approach it through some feminine sweetness maybe throw in some appreciation and seduction bam 5 minutes your done getting new wood floors or planning for it.

[@whatsupbudbud]

@@reanschwarzer2187 yeah, as a guy I've always had the opinion that women could have such amazing relationships if only they would use that feminine m.o. we guys love so much. Social media is a shitshow.

[@niciassmith1204]

Women in their 20s who were 5s, 6s and 7s who could get with 8s and 9s men are now 3s,4s,5s and are mad at the world because they can't land an 8 or a 9 and anyone who is below a 7 doesn't even register to them in the dating pool

[@TheRaiderman1]

They landed those guy for the entertainment only. Once they used up they are invisible.

[@mr.nmoney3554]

Every time Jenna gets called out by Rich or Moff stating that Jenna said this or that her reply is always "i did not say that' or "I did not imply that" . I have met women like her she's always right and even when you are right she scrambles her previous conversations to make it sound like she said it first, The old "i am not here to argue i am just saying". All i can say is if her friends are really 8,9,10 here in Dallas they would have to fight guys off. her friends are looking for Jason Momoa or Chris Hemsworth The 1% of the 1%

[@ronaldinojikri5682]

That’s really ALL women.

[@mr.nmoney3554]

@@ronaldinojikri5682 sad but true

[@kellygreenii]

No. This is two different communication styles clashing. Men are direct communicators who deal in content….(words spoken) whereas women are often indirect communicators who deal in CONTEXT ( emotional content, tone, non-verbals). The context her is that Moff (for whatever reason) clearly doesn’t like or respect her and you can clearly hear it in his tone of voice and attitude. He’s trying to deny it and point to the content of whatever it was he said. She’s not backing down, and is calling him out on the flagrantly disrespectful tone and attitude. This is what women mean when they say they don’t feel heard. I know nothing of what conversation they are referring to, but this guy Moff has made it clear from jump that he has no respect for her. She hears it, and (to her credit) is calling him out on it. Because he’s being an a$$.

[@mr.nmoney3554]

@@kellygreenii exactly women are bad communicators they are expecting men to be like females or trained psychologist and pick up on body language, fill in the gaps when they do not say exactly what they want/mean, and most importantly its always someone else's fault. Thank you for proving my statement. To the behavior of Moff yes sometimes you just have to be an ass when an adult is acting like a teenager. Take a good read at what another female commenter wrote pay attention to the last sentence and word: Caterina Del Galles 9 days ago I am a woman. I live in Russia now but I have also lived all over. U gotta toughen up and I have a strong Dad and brother. My female friends with no male influence are fucking DELUSIONAL.

[@steveburke7675]

Never wrong, always defensive, perpetually unhappy. Young men put up with this due to...thirst. It's very liberating to be beyond that. EDIT:...the moment she appeared the conversation ended and turned into a lecture. No...just no.

[@big_prev]

Women are naturally angry for some reason 🤷🏽‍♂️ and if Jenna is so hot why is she hiding? 😂

[@Bill_tyler]

Right? She do phone sex service (I did t know that was still a thing) if she was even a 4 she’d be on that other porn girl fan page

[@InternationalHealthCoach]

Maybe she needs to keep her anominity due to the fact she is a high quality woman who is a helpful phone sex operator 😘. No idea.

[@worldchanger23]

😂😂😂

[@kennethbranson4711]

@@ww21943 its because by then their fantasy in their head hasn't played out, and they resent that. And then comes the anger, and they blame the man. Because they will never blame themselves for being delusional.

[@zebare726]

To her definition of hot, is to be successful.

[@thedalillama]

I'm about to wrap up my latest dating phase. I burn out on the same thing every time. As much as channels say men should be the leader, I'm sick of it. I'm tired of making all decisions and living the life of two people. Being responsible for my own decisions is enough.

[@InitialDL84]

Yup, I'm in that same boat. Tired of going on date after date just to be interrogated and interviewed with no connection. Deleted all the online dating stuff and everything. I occasionally have some fun with women but that's about it.

[@nimson50]

There are plenty of masculine women that will be happy to lead you. ;)

[@thedalillama]

@@nimson50 I'm not looking to be led. I simply hoped to find a woman that could at least pull her weight and not have a type A personality. I already married and divorced a type A. Bonus points if she did things that made my life easier on occasion without expecting special recognition for it... because I certainly never asked for it while providing the same.

[@RN-gx7wt]

@@thedalillama Would you repeat the same mistake twice, is the Question.

[@thedalillama]

@@RN-gx7wt what mistake? Getting married? Hell no would I make that mistake again. Dating? How much of a mistake is dating when the problem stems from the nature of women? I am not ready to end my sex life. So, I don't consider dating a mistake, yet. That said, I am getting to the point of where the cost (time, effort and money) of maintaining a sex life isn't worth the benefit.

[@brianscott3503]

Do you know what men really want from women: less talking, more action. The more a woman talks, complains, has to voice her opinion or has to tell a man what she wants, the more turned off a man becomes. I don’t mean to be harsh but American women just talk too damn much and after while it’s exhausting. Try asking a man what he wants and then give it to him. Now Im not suggesting that you do this for losers but if you meet a guy that gives you most of what you want then please stop trying to squeeze more out of him and stop trying to turn him into your “perfect guy” he doesn’t exist.

[@haywoodjablome44]

"A little less conversation, a little more action please." Elvis Presley

[@brianscott3503]

@@haywoodjablome44 Wow! I had no idea he said that…LOL

[@haywoodjablome44]

@@brianscott3503 oh yes. Lyrics from his song “A Little Less Conversation.”

[@brianscott3503]

@@haywoodjablome44 😎

[@baldeagle4710]

american women are always trying to control the relationship. they dont do this in other cultures.

[@tc96z1]

This is one of those “A picture is worth a thousand words” moments. If these ladies are all 7+ then they should have zero reluctance to submitting a group full body ‘Pilate Wardrobe’ picture.

[@tomcripps7229]

2 of them are fat. I mean all but 2 are fat. And they're just a little chunky.

[@TimeToTravel-u2x]

*70+ kg

[@marcusevans5423]

😂

[@raymondpaller6475]

Spot on; it's the f-ugly ones who hide under their moo moo dresses (yet like inner city winos who hide their bottle in a brown paper sack, they fool nobody); the hot ones are ever so willing to show off in string bikinis or at least skin hugging yoga leggings; ditto if they had wit/brains or charm, they'd be happy to go on a show; if they don't then most likely there is nothing to show off, looks or brain wise.

[@clownworld4655]

Always funny how every chick is supposedly a 10 😂😂😂

[@sanosuke2999]

Notice how her "hot" friends are all girls who are in the age range before they hit "The Wall"?

[@gregabrams5792]

First she said there isn't enough good looking quality men and then a few minutes later she said how bein good looking is a dime a dozen. Which is it Jenna? This shows how women don't know what they want at all. And her friends aren't good looking because if they were, they would be on the show for clout.

[@anon7684]

Quality is the key

[@BobFrostV]

I think when a good looking guy doesn't give these women what they want and ghosts them they'd just call the dude a nerd. Even if I had absurd income I'd do coffee or walk in the park because that is what I enjoy doing. If these women gave me attitude they'd be dropped without explanation. I bet these tables would call me poor and an unsocial nerd. Basically, these women might just be belittling high value guys and acting like there are no good guys available when in reality the good guys are just ghosting and choosing better women because they have the option.

[@rayzala1393]

Good looking men are a dime a dozen to women...if they want to get fucked and ghosted. Only 7% of women are getting off in casual encounters (because who gives a fuck if youre just going to ghost them after). So they can get the sex, but the satisfaction of good sex and relationship? Yeah not so much.

[@polishpimp4233]

Her friend who makes 6 figures is in a dead zone. Most guys are going to make less than her especially in the south. High value guys give zero shits about how much a woman makes frankly most men dont care. It's the sprinkles on the donut or as Rollo once said it's gravy on top it's a nice bonus. It's not the main attraction. I can cook a 3 course meal, iron my own clothes, wash my own stuff and take care of duties that are traditionally seen as feminine. It's not going to make a woman open up the dam of desire to me. What her and her friends are going to have to understand is we ALL and I mean ALL settle to some degree. No one gets to check off all their boxes if they want to stop being single. Her and her"strong and independent women" need to find guys that reasonably have their shit together and have separate finances. Otherwise they are probably going to end up single.

[@theman2017inc]

Or as the late Godfather Kevin Samuels, said it best YOU’LL DIE ALONE

[@ryanj357]

What Jenna doesn’t realize is men aren’t forcing women to make themselves look beautiful. It’s your choice if you want to spend hundreds of dollars on beauty products every month. We want women who are at a healthy BMI. Health is number fucking one. We’re not asking for women to have 6 packs. We don’t care about your beauty products. Don’t come in here and make men pay for your poor choices. I think women who spend that much time on making themselves look like a model are insecure and it’s not cute.

[@baldeagle4710]

we aren't asking for plastic surgery and tons of fakeup. we want NATURAL faces and bodies.

[@b1121]

They’re trying to fake fertility by faking youth through fakeup. The number one thing we look for in a mate. So they can ride the CC a bit longer.

[@cruiser6260]

Nobody cares about their manicure, waxing and dying their roots regularly anyway. That's just high maintenance mortician crap

[@00_UU]

That's what I thought, but the reality is THEY do it for other f3males. No joke. They shame one another indirectly ALL the time. Skinny f3male will say to her overweig4t girlfriend that "oh by the way, I lost so much weight last month, look how beautiful this dress looks on me". They constantly boast how rich their boyfriend is or how naive he is buying her anything and everything. It is a huge hidden secret that they shame one another, but since they are a collective hive mind they will keep blaming men for everything

[@Thaiger9]

1. Health 2. Wealth 3. Relationships

[@marcdevilliers2182]

Jenna, you come across level headed etc, which honestly I think is cool. However, it just doesn't seem plausible that your multiple friends who you rate as high value etc, can't find high value guys. We don't live in a world where there the high value girls outnumber the high value guys, or if they do, it's not by much. They can't find any either because they're not as high value as they think they are, or their expectations are so far out that they're delusional.

[@zebare726]

Jenna enter the video of which she immediately wanted to move the goal post about the debate that the two had during their video, Just to then bet on the victim card and to eventually get emotional to start name called him "Childish" Of which she said she never did.

[@Macheako]

​@@zebare726 she's here for the attention 😂😂😂

[@M0viLover]

No .. the problem is they want the top 20 percent of men. And those men get *all* the w0men. So, *why* would they *ever* settle for *one* w0man??

[@jameslave98]

High value men are actually much rarer

[@luxemag4347]

how does she come across as level headed? She was gaslighting the whole time. How is that level headed?

[@jasonweishaupt1828]

This reset is going to be effing GLORIOUS!

[@stevesteve1965]

After all these year's these 'strong independent empowered' women are still just sitting there waiting to be approached by guys and only 'hot' guys. And still they are just as miserable as they always were. What they've failed to keep up with in these 'modern' times is... men don't give a shit any more, you're too much like hard work and you make no effort. All those good guys you're letting pass you by.

[@Informationbok]

Thanks for the comment Steve. No words could have been any clearer.

[@Ascension_3030]

Theyre actually far more miserable than they have ever been. Surveys and anti depressant usage show that womans happiness in the west, has been steadily declining for 7 decades

[@lumberluc]

Because their Depraved. A depraved mind has killed nations more than most would know of. We were warned of this, and we ignored it.

[@youceftobi8336]

Absolutely right and i dont know why to this day ppl still call mgtow losers

[@teddybeer6206]

@@youceftobi8336 pure shaming tactics

[@frankhynd885]

I worked with a successful 35 year old woman who had three similar female friends who were recently married to great high income guys. Six months later she told me her newly married friends were miserably unhappy even worse than when they were single. Guys have an easy happy time by staying single and having no children.

[@ArmyWolves]

Ironically the miserable female friends likely pushed the guy for commitment. . . Sadly when such wo°men are unhappy the entire family will be unhappy from the husband, children as well as herself

[@russ9921]

Just listening to Jenna does my head in - reminds me so much of my ex wife who talked all the time, twisted everything that had been said, instead of just listening and sticking to a fair share of the conversation.

[@bigneiltoo]

All we have to do is convince women that their standards need to be lowered by about 50%. Good luck with that one. The way they look at it is this: until they are married to a rich male 10, anything they perceive to be to their advantage is fair game.

[@BobFrostV]

Add on that they will also want an open relationship on their side, a surrogate to have the kids, and to travel lots. She also wants half your assets and passive income so she won't feel insecure about whether the dude leaves. There will be complaints if you don't give her complete focus of your attention.

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

Would you lower your standards?

[@bigneiltoo]

@@wyleecoyotee4252 Women are 17 times pickier than men (finding 4.5% of men attractive while men find 61% of women somewhat attractive). Meanwhile men pay all net taxes. When the EBT cards are shut off we'll have shantytowns of single moms offering $5 hand jobs. We have an artificial system designed to knock men down and prop women up. Women's standards will go down whether they like it or not. That said, the women will all become jaded like alpha widows. Their kids will grow up appreciating strong men.

[@ed5308]

Woman marry up in theory ( most goods and services ) men marry down to what they can get. Men work on themselves and become high value and can go higher but woman still will never be happy until they get the divorce.

[@bigneiltoo]

@@ed5308 Yes, this is called hypergamy. See Briffault's Law.

[@handsomebarber424]

“Why are you so angry Jenna “ That should be all of our questions to women I’m going to start using that one

[@koroglurustem1722]

That seems more like when men cannot deal with women

[@baldeagle4710]

even older women still think they deserve millionaire Chad

[@john83me14]

Here's a tip: Women talk in circles by saying they agree with you THEN disagreeing with you then implying a point but never making the point directly so they can say "I never said that but I'm just saying..."😠 In other words, never argue with women.

[@festernassociates]

Lmao

[@ed5308]

Woman basically argue with how they feel in the moment. Its not fact based. Second they always know one woman who ran a company and was successful. That means all woman potentially can run companies. Its crazy but what is worse men put up with this BS to get laid. Once you cross over into I do not give a shit anymore its gets so much easier to deal with woman.

[@john83me14]

@@ed5308 yes! Men are taught they are equal to us in logic which is false. I began to deal with them like I deal with a child and my results got better. Yes, in the moment they hated it but they ended up chasin me and even screwing me more😅 That 50/50 equal partner BS doesn't work. #MenLead

[@kimdelong3429]

If men went with available opions( American women) then why are so many men who can going overseas to find a wife? Men are just exercising their opions(just like women) and this is what's passing women off. They want the game rigged in their favor all the time!

[@pkrent3461]

Notice how this woman tries to make her voice very soft and sophisticated yet she still making illogical arguments, virtue signaling,etc

[@thedaintyprincejbr3176]

16:40 so she started it by trying to put him down saying she wouldn't date him then she gets surprised when he gives her some of her medicine back. take it as you dish it woman.

[@briandavey1139]

Acid tongue then out come the pig tails.

[@megret1808]

The ‘cat on the hot tin roof’ describes many women. The people I know who have sleep problems and anxiety issues are women wound up in insecurities

[@michaeldalton8374]

And physically lazy as hell

[@kenward6230]

💯

[@VinceFS]

Typically a red flag but not all the time.

[@TGP109]

Uhm, no. Depression and anxiety are far more common in women due to hormones, not ''insecurity''.

[@CryptoKernels]

@@TGP109BS

[@JALA578]

Most women will nevwr understand they have been catered to, lied to and never told they are wrong or corrected. They grow up thinking they are all queen's/princess's and that they can't do any wrong. In their eyes the world revolves around them and you'll never change that.

[@markflierl1624]

Hollywood, TV and the school system definitely mislead woman.

[@mrgregw]

Cognitive dissonance. Why would Moff want that headache. The reason the alpha males she grew up with wouldn't talk to her is obvious. It's like watching divorce Court

[@samobispo1527]

For women, happiness is that moment before they want ‘more’ happiness. Think of women and shoes.

[@deportedsouls3165]

Moff is a muppet, many MGTOW-men are high value but choose to focus on other things than women. It doesn't mean that they can't get women.

[@THX5000]

100%. Plenty of mgtow are incels, but many simply have better things to do than deal with laydee drama.

[@jsmith8398]

Jenna is an verbal, emotional, and financial vampire. Nho Thanks.

[@LatimusChadimus]

Sometimes you would be far happier with a partner that you deserve versus a partner that you want. Come on Jenna think about it. Not every 2 gets to have a 5 or higher

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

And sometimes it's better not to have a partner at all

[@LatimusChadimus]

@@wyleecoyotee4252 maybe in the sense of exclusivity

[@HowTwo007]

Honestly. It sounds like jenna genuinely wants to have a conversation. And she makes some great points. Although i am sure she is capping about the value of her friends and her self. Having her and her friends on rich show would be amazing. It would be an amazing contrast to the fresh and fit kind of girls. Moff is the problem here. He has no patients with her, and thats not at all how you get good content or have a conversation with someone. And she just came on to set the record straight. Moff is the reason she and her friends decided not to come on the show. Rich should tell her and her friends to come in his show to have a real convo without moff. Moff being the youngest guy i am surprised has less patients than rich. He acts as though he been in the red pill space for decades and is tired of it all Moff is the kind of dude that makes the manosphere look bad.

[@qSirChaddie]

Moff is a beta

[@Macheako]

yall seriously spend hours listening about female nature......only to learn FUCC ALL about em 😂❤

[@Jane-pe4iw]

It's so easy to make your pronouncements into the ether without the receiving party having a voice to talk back. He can't handle it.

[@weeevan3078]

I agree, and Rich sided with him. Moff needs to learn how to listen and talk to women.

[@randyjones3050]

I'm inclined to agree. However, Moff was also allowing her to lead the discussion and was trying to debate on her natural turf of female circular arguments. A man will never win a debate with a woman engaging in that sort of argument because most women are masters at it. Moff needs to learn better self-control like Rich has. It is definitely a skill that is acquired with maturity. Notice how Rich mostly just listens and periodically asks pointed questions that demand an honest answer. He doesn't jump into the gutter sword fight over details that she will never concede.

[@Flippy2100]

14:55 Jenna: you literally asked me if I went to college Chris: I didnt I asked if you had a degree Wow that's something a woman would say. Super effeminate to play semantics

[@BlackWhite-tx2kb]

I believe the agreed upon point between the men and the women is that a lot of men and women just don't have it. In North America today, we got obesity, we got debt, we got an economy, and we got a job market where it is difficult to raise a family of 4 on 1 income, we got sedentary lifestyles. All of these factors chip away at our value to the other sex.

[@Thaiger9]

Wow that is so true! Men and women need to improve themselves then we’ll be better off as a society.

[@strategicactionservices2206]

Props to Jenna for at least having a conversation. Moff is loosing the frame lol 😂.

[@qSirChaddie]

100%

[@LatimusChadimus]

Losing* lol

[@alexandergoode4153]

Seriously. He validated several things she said he did. Disappointed Rich seemed to take his side.

[@brianhenry7983]

it's about time somebody called out that guy. this guy thinks being an annoying asshole makes him an alpha. guys so lame. I'm not white lighting, just some of you so called alphas make us all look bad and reinforces why some women think guys are dumb and unaware. rich is a clown for basically sidng with him.

[@hughguys1183]

@@alexandergoode4153 he didnt want to embarrass him I presume

[@kennethbranson4711]

Its not hard to figure out why women are so unhappy, I asked and was told it was because of me. So I'm the reason women are so unhappy guys. Just thought I would drop a line and let you all know. Thanks.

[@vestland3877]

They are unhappy because they have too much freedom.

[@raymondpaller6475]

Well done.

[@janco333]

haha, my dude

[@AlexMathersFilms]

Nah bro it’s because of me

[@allenblack3785]

Dude thats hilarious,,,,,,men in general are always the problem, because you know, women deserve the best......at 50 lbs overweight, min wage jobs...........

[@e_squared604]

I couldn't stop laughing when I noticed the "FREE chapter on red flags men must avoid" scrolling by as she was speaking 🤣

[@xyzct]

Women's arguments are like pizza cutters -- all edge, no point.

[@ericraber1214]

Without a pic, I’m giving her a 5 or less. She is adding points in her own mind.

[@oceanhedonist265]

If these women are dating "losers," what does this say about their ability to select "non-losers" to date? Women are notorious for rejecting or flaking on guys. What makes them decide to go out with these guys that they label as losers; is it because the guys that they think they are entitled to reject them?

[@samuelmiles6807]

She's delusional like all the rest

[@johnfaulk7775]

She’s remembering how she felt, not what was said.

[@babayaga1767]

disagree, i went mgtow 20 years ago. never married no kids. i'm not interested in someone's leftovers. his kids. all the drama. i'm extremely busy and active. i wouldn't even consider giving a female of any stature my valuable time. while you're trying to get laid, i'm working on my next million

[@rushwill]

I respect your statement. I always pondered why men would downplay or disrespect men who go mgtow. It’s a choice. So what is the reason to negatively critique mgtow when it is ethical and not harming anyone?

[@philippossnortis2035]

any tips on where to start to make money beyound the normal job?

[@aquious953]

High status woman require very high status men. Do the math....

[@InfoSuperhighway]

Arguing and debate requires logic. One of the participants here is physically incapable of such feats.

[@Dios_nysos]

Women feeling the need to provide for themselves to sustain their beauty image is BS. Some basic care in health hygiene and a grounded sense in her natural feminine essence is all that is desired by men. Makeup, nails and primping is icing on the cake. It coming as pre-destined upkeep is a turnoff (at least for the men looking for more than skin-deep qualities). Upscaling for a girl in that area should be up to the man to provide as all our tastes are unique. Quite a unique shit test Jenna threw out there stating this. It is sad that many women believe having these standards for their own artificiality could be what is holding them back from attracting top tier men.

[@silverpinecone]

Shout out to Jenna for having balls to come on to show and participate in the discussion.

[@mobydick3895]

But she just couldn't help herself, now could she? That is because to her she is always right and men are always wrong.

[@ashleywarrick2094]

"ovaries"

[@CryptoKernels]

What? She hid behind the screen 😂

[@antonglas7488]

Moff could never compete with the late great Kevin Samuels. Kevin was a true alpha male and women were queuing up to be on his show and be told they`re full of BS. His death was a great loss.

[@drwho9319]

Jenna, if your reading this, you go based on personal experiences. Try to base your points on reality, you know, based on majority of people experiences, like facts. Otherwise your generalizing

[@appendix-q6k]

She said it. Being beautiful doesn’t mean anything anymore. Precisely right at least not for something more meaningful. A man will sleep with you all day every day being beautiful but red pilled men see past the beauty. This woman thinks a big butt and smile is all they need.

[@leonelorozco2514]

She is hitting the wall. The problem is when women are in their young 20s guys listen to them as if what they say actually means something because guys want to hit it. Then women hit 30 and no guy wants to listen to them.

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

Redpill men don't see past beauty That's bs

[@gnomer87]

I can only stomach Jenna's nagging for a few minutes before I start to zone out. Imagine being married to that. *shudders*

[@vestland3877]

I am going to defend Moff. No man needs to have patience with woman like Jenna. Every day I thank the good Lord that I picked a wife from SE Asia. What a blessing she is. Keep it up Moff! :-)

[@Ascension_3030]

Smart man. My fiance is from Central America, and has traditional family values. I have no idea why guys keep messing around with western women. Its a complete waste of time, unless you pump and dump. They are not fit for any sort of relationship

[@vestland3877]

@@Ascension_3030 you are 100% correct. They are not fit for marriage is spot on. I didnt think about it like that. Family values in the west is gone and is never comming back.

[@cfd335346]

Feminism 101 with that ditzy broad guys buy stock in cat/dog food and wine companies

[@docfett1]

Listening to Jenna is like reliving the experience of coming off general anesthesia. You all may spin plates, Jenna spins words-very unpleasant. Bla Bla Bla…

[@kauffrau6764]

Listening to this woman is so tedious. As a woman, I find most other women talk too much, it's exhausting!

[@yiyilikeit6210]

when u built your life around a loose ever changing term as "happiness" you will lose everytime

[@indrajeet]

Women trying to gaslight to the max - but the recording don't lie!

[@Kshapo]

Why doesn't Jenna show her face?

[@pixel6878]

Because she's not attractive, just like dating apps when they show just their face because they're fat 🤣

[@mariestansberry3282]

Ok Folks! A great conversation! The reason I subscribed to Rich Cooper’s channel/ content is to gain specific understanding of what men have experienced and think about their relationships with women. As a woman, I believe that Rich provides the most excruciatingly accurate insight. Definitely appreciate Jenna’s interactions with Rich. She has the guts to exchange thoughts on the topic!

[@jjjj_111]

This man misrepresented mgtow, typical of people who don't know anything about it

[@michaelcorey9890]

@5:10, makes me think of Rich's saying 'a bomber only gets flak when it's over the target'

[@davidyardley512]

"One of them makes over six figures" Who cares Jenna? Men don't care about this sort of stuff, why can you women realise that? Inner beauty - tick, kind, caring, sexy as hell - tick, can cook - tick, supports her man - tick, comes from a great family with good values and moral compass - tick. Gives her man space and silence - tick. Who gives a rats @r$e about your friend's 6 figures.

[@brianhenry7983]

ok deal, I'll take the girl making 6 figs and be her trophy husband, and you take the poor chick waiting at hooters

[@ma-ux7wz]

@@brianhenry7983 do you think a girl making 6 figures will settle with a dork making less than her?

[@brianhenry7983]

@@ma-ux7wz uhh yeah it happens all the time. I went out with and lived with a girl who made more money than me, and I didn't complain when she paid for things

[@VictorTheHan]

@@brianhenry7983 how long did that last?

[@brianhenry7983]

@@VictorTheHan about a year, then I moved out of state for another job. one of the best relationships I've ever had tbh

[@andymelendez9757]

As someone who’s divorced,I have to say that my own issues did not help the situation. I think it takes a certain amount of maturity,mindfulness and basic good mental health (among many other things) to make things work long term. Lots of hard lessons with no guarantee of anything unless we manifest it. If your hurt, heal up. Things WILL start to improve!

[@richardouvrier3078]

I like the way Rich figured out they were 3s by lightning-fast triangulation.

[@dolphin069]

Over 40, strong independent women with a ton of mileage. Doesn’t matter how much money they make or how attractive they are. Miss.

[@bplayerr1]

💥🚨📢: Women please tell us what will make you happy⁉️ - Join the work force and prioritize careers > not happy - Ignore good traditonal men and chase after Chad/Tyrone > not happy - Good traditional men you rejected seek love elsewhere e.g. passport bros > not happy - Choose to not marry or have kids in her twenties or ever > not happy - Normalize 304 life style and hook up culture > not happy - Land a kind and good hard working man > not happy - She pays all her bills like a good functioning adult > not happy - Have judicial preference across the board > not happy - Got married and had kids > not happy - Other women freely CHOOSING a traditional life style > not happy

[@marcuslong9761]

No girl who is actually attractive talks to ppl like that.

[@Jazz-d7s]

LMAO.... The sarcastic... heyyyyyy Jenna was hilarious

[@glenn65]

sHow your face Jenna

[@Son-of-Krypton]

She maybe a 5 in looks…. that just sounds like a 8 or 9 🤔

[@1simo93521]

@@Son-of-Krypton But a 3 in personality.

[@SKBottom]

Who cares while they are unhappy? It's not like knowing why will ever enable you to make them happy. They can't even make themselves happy.

[@InternationalHealthCoach]

Jenna & Moff 🥰💕💞 TRUE LOVE ALWAYS & FOREVER! Hey Moff , just think, when your away from home for a while Jenna will be able to satisfy your needs from a distance over the phone 😮🤦

[@moff_unplugged]

Lol

[@haywoodjablome44]

13:06. "Are they fun to be around or are they yappy annoying ones?" Gold!!!

[@scottcook2839]

There is so much that can be said about this video and topic. I'll stick to 2 simple points which I believe make up part of the core of this problem between men and women. #1: we live in a society that overuses the term "deserve." We're constnatly told what we deserve - participation trophy, having it all, etc. However, it is an unbreakable law of nature that we don't deserve anything we didn't "earn." One of the things I enjoy about Rich's content is that, for us guys, he stresses continually that we "must" earn - earn fitness, earn wealth, earn position, etc. #2: This is even simpler... it is physically impossible for two people to both be on top at the same time. It doesn't work. The past 50 years of the social zeitgeist is that women can be on top... and deserve to be. Here we have an intrinsic issue. Sorry for the novel :)

[@c.s.s.1723]

Naw….glad to see your insights. I think you have distilled the essence of this complex conflict very succinctly. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@maxpaws3977]

If a man looked like a complete Chad aged 19, can that same man aged 34 still have those looks, or is it inevitable that at age 34 the man would have lost some of those looks?

[@snapkrr]

just hit the weights and work out your body so at 34 you’re maintained its like working on your car, sure there’s always the possibility of one of your main bodily functions becoming disabled but engines break down too such is life, just do the best you can and take whats given.

[@jmf1976jmf]

I think Jenna came off better than Moff

[@wiseonwords]

Of course YOU would. But no men thought that.

[@vestland3877]

No man needs to have patience with woman like Jenna.

[@jmf1976jmf]

@@wiseonwords I'm glad you speak for all men, you are so helpful and uplifting 👍

[@1alayzzia]

@ around 16:50 she stated that she said to Moff that she wouldn't date him anyway but gets pissed when he says she's to old.

[@12gmkk29]

Even women with hot voice like nagging and yelling at you

[@richardguzman6426]

Woman who marries for money will complain about love a woman who marries for love will complain about money 💵. A woman who has both will find something else to complain about.

[@stevec3526]

Women get upset when they can’t find a man who will commit that is 50% better than her in every way. Jenna took NO responsibility for her own actions and inactions. This drives men up the wall.

[@ShadowLord3220]

There is nothing in this world that will satisfy women. And more, most of women realize their desires by men. If men wants something he works hard to get it. Women find rich guy that can provide it to her.

[@giggymiggins2456]

All I'm hearing is: 'I am agreeable, I just don't agree with anything you're saying.' HA, really? Who wouldn't walk away? And I agree with Moff on being sent away, but as time goes on I don't want to come back anymore. Edit: Jenna is a prime example of why rpill is a thing at all and she doesn't even realize it. Women are and will always be the most effective recruitment for these ideologies.

[@katjamiranda7138]

i think woman need social commitment as an important part of their life. That is what femininity is about. They can survive without it, but it makes them very tough not soft. Women needs love love love and human connection.

[@martynobs6970]

Sex, silence and a sandwich - It sounds like Jenna would likely fail on all of them - she sure failed on the silence part

[@HenryHoolington]

“Small specific examples and the exception be the rule” resonated with me, I know exactly what you’re talking about. A lot of women do this, they want to bite the apple but they know they’re not allowed. Not only that, they’re trying to manipulate you to see if they can crack your surface.

[@dne9394]

Note that Jenna says that "beautiful xxomen are almost a dime a dozen"? SHE IS CORRECT, for the top 10% of men. So she is admitting that her and her friends ONLY see the top 10% of men, all the rest are invisible to them. So, of course, for her and her friends, there are simply WAY TOO MANY BEAUTIFUL XXOMEN! I am better guessing that Jenna is simply trying to promote her business. Adorable.

[@zebare726]

one must keep in mind that women definition of a beautiful woman, is usually reflected by the fact that that woman is beautiful because she is succeful. "Rich, Famous, Independent" Traits that women find "beautiful" in men.

[@Timesynergy]

“Gelatinous” lol I died at this

[@GuineaPigReviews]

Gelatinous....LOL I like this girl. She's seemingly sane, self aware and articulate.

[@tsubaka18]

She seems bitter like you

[@GuineaPigReviews]

@@tsubaka18 lol I am the least bitter girl I know. Thanks for playing.

[@PhantomVista]

Hmm.... Can't say I agree that she was in the wrong. She kept it fact and to the point, without name calling. Got to respect that

[@lumberluc]

When Jenna hopped on, and I listened to her talk for 20 seconds... I knew she was lying.

[@Gobbluth666]

If women brought value to a relationship, men wouldn't cheat.. Period