Bill Burr Is NOT a Fan of 2-Point Conversions. Or Self-Driving Cars. | The Rich Eisen Show

[@johnchedsey1306]

Bill Burr bringing up Judas Priest from 35 years ago! This guy is a treasure.

[@jesusflores2121]

I'm 100% with Bill Burr on this.

[@johnellis424]

The first time I drove through a restaurant drive thru with a new car that has all the sensors, the car went crazy. I had to remind myself that I have been driving for three and a half decades and have never had an accident while driving through a drive thru. I don't need a computer nor AI to help me navigate driving.

[@teranmm]

Lmao what type of car?

[@johnellis424]

@@teranmm My wife's X5

[@lightspeed4596]

If they PAID me $50k to drive one of these idiot cars with all the sensors and nonsense...I'd laugh in their face. The only thing these technowonderbread cars are good for is the landfill.

[@gusvonstupen1897]

Hyundai has a driver assist that hits the breaks if you get to close to someone on the expressway. You have to turn it off every time you drive it.

[@datriaxsondor590]

You don't need a computer nor AI to help you navigate, but, how else are these companies supposed to harvest your biometrics and other data to exploit you?

[@testpm-il7qq]

Bill : "It's like driving an iPad" 🤣🤣🤣

[@kevinmassey1164]

100% agree…. The idea behind it, which is almost always some version of making it a one score game, ignores the fact there are still a bunch of possessions left in the game. The smarter move IMO is to take the PAT unless the game situation demands you need to go for 2

[@donbgon]

Exactly. It's so stupid. It never works out not taking the points. The team will probably kick some field goals. Take the damn points.

[@mrmacross]

It's specifically a 4th quarter strategy, when you're probably only going to get the ball 1-2 more times (barring recovering an onside kick) and you absolutely need a defensive stop to win anyway. The idea is you figure at some point you have to go for two, and the sooner you go for two, you can better gameplan how to manage the clock and use your timeouts. Another way of saying it is it's better to miss on your two-point attempt with nine minutes to go then to miss that two-point attempt with 15 seconds left.

[@samore11]

No it's a direct analysis called dynamic programming based on possessions remaining that tell whether or not it increases your chances of winning by going for 2 or kicking the PAT

[@andrewpierce1588]

The new car warnings are like a digital back seat driver.

[@HariSeldon913]

Fortunately mine let me turn most of them off. I rented a car last month and there was a new one that I'm not sure if I like or not - had a long stop and of course as soon as my attention wandered it started moving again and the car gave a little chime to let me know the car in front of me had moved. TBH it's better than a horn from the car behind me.

[@carimcalkins8977]

My condo neighbor is like the rest of us: tired of the nonsense noises when backing up, so she ignored them and backed right into my car as I was going by. Then I had my bike rack in my other car and it REFUSED to back up until I got out the owner's manual and learned the magic handshake needed to turn the darned things off. Maybe we're better off without them, or at least just having one button to easily turn them all off for a while.

[@richh650]

Bill Burr should be on at least monthly when possible on Rich's show. They work so well together!!

[@GJT-w3y]

He is absolutely correct on Self Driving cars...And there is literally nothing to stop it. And the more technology inside, the less you own it. Courts in the US have already stated that you may own the "car", but the company owns all the technology and don't have to release information on it to you or your mechanic, as it is their IP, meaning you really no longer own your car.

[@kennytaco4474]

Cars/insurance is more expensive today. It’s not a viable “hobby” for a working class family anymore like it used to. Gear heads are slowly disappearing due to the cost of it, not because people are losing interest

[@dangerzone9747]

I have a 2003 Nissan 350Z I can sell you.

[@chrisbarr959]

i worked on the GM autonomous spark vehicle . they had to scrap it because Canada demanded that it have a steering wheel and a forward facing Drivers seat for them to sell it in Canada

[@mikegrizwold2522]

Love Bill Burr! I'm never getting in a car that drives itself either!

[@classiclife7204]

Why do we need face recognition to walk into an arena?

[@mrquirky3626]

My guess is that so many fans seem to act up and get banned now, like those two Yankee fans in the World Series that grabbed the fly ball, that stadiums need facial recognition to make sure they don't get back in.

[@classiclife7204]

@@mrquirky3626 Makes sense from their POV, but those few of us remaining who care about things like the right to not be Unreasonably Searched or Seized will be none too happy. A perfectly safe society would be one where we're all in cages; we're almost there

[@sneifert1968]

Chasing points is the new norm. That, and the sports betting industry loves it.

[@kobe2curry4rose1]

Glad I'm not the only one who absolutely hates the 2pt attempt.

[@TheLumpyOne]

I only hate it when teams are foolish and impatient in going for 2- way too early. I think it should be a desperation move, break glass in case of emergency type of option.

[@denismcf]

@@TheLumpyOne I think we should have a 3 point attempt from the 15 yard line!

[@Kaykath-yd1ss]

❤ Mr Burr

[@drongobum2037]

Listening to these two guys reminds me of the time I sat next to a bunch of financial analysts and forensic accountants in a hotel lobby. I didn't understand a damn word they said.

[@rogerblewett5595]

I agree with this guy.. i hate yeams going for 2 point conversions all of the time.. it really should only be at the end of the game or when absolutely necessary

[@motorcycleboy9000]

These yeams stink. None of these yeams made the Yuper Bowl. Terrible yeam strategy.

[@nickrowe4584]

I think going for it in the 1st half is dumb. 2nd half it makes more sense, particularly as you get into the 4th quarter. Its also game call thing, you shouldn't do it all the time but if your offense is humming and you know you will need the points (maybe a suspect defense), yeah go for it.

[@xerxes8632]

I totally agree about how loud it is. I see a class action lawsuit coming.

[@AJFar-tm7dn]

I have to mute games on T.V. now.

[@samore11]

Eisen's logic arguments😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@nickkorea5850]

Ravens in the third quarter is a great example of how a two pointer can ruin your season

[@datoxic]

Except for they had no choice but to go for it... It was two points or lose the game. Basically the worst example you could have brought to the table lol.

[@nickkorea5850]

@datoxic Try reading. Third quarter- where the ravens went for two instead of kicking the PAT which resulted in an 8 point deficit which also resulted in a two point conversion in the fourth... dropped pass by Andrews. It's actually the perfect example. Get a clue next time

[@matthewsawczyn6592]

Touch screens are proven to be WAY more distracting to drivers, but a single screen is cheaper for the companies than all the button parts

[@roc1156]

You're right Bill.

[@AJFar-tm7dn]

Amen Bill. Thanks, man. I'm in my sixties, and yeah, I'm old.

[@glennhubbard5008]

Dave Campbell: Screw it. I'm going for a twelve point conversion!

[@MoneyIsSilver]

He's 100% right about self-driving cars.

[@northernspade1727]

Ol Billy listening to Breaking the Law on the way in.

[@vinnythewebsurfer]

I like how this clips started on a pretty reasonable point and then just devolves into old man fighting the clouds.

[@MothProject]

To be fair, Bill has sounded like an old "get off my lawn" guy since the beginning, before he was chronologically old.

[@bballer2324ify]

It's about time management and score management. Two possession game versus one possession game. 2 point conversion gets it to a 2 possession game. field goal did nothing for them in that situation.

[@maximilianbecker773]

So going for 2 in the second is like driving an iPad. This is the way

[@jeffredfern3744]

The telescreen is in your pocket.

[@camicawber]

If you're down 15 and don't get the 2 point on that first touchdown, then it won't do you any good to do it on the second TD because now you're down by 9.

[@donbgon]

If it's the first half, why not kick the extra point? The other team will probably kick a field goal or two in the second half.

[@mrmacross]

But assuming you only have two possessions left, you have to go for two regardless. I think the only benefit of going for two on the second possession instead of the first is psychological, as in it's a huge deflator if you fail and you have like six minutes left of football left to play. On the flip side, it's a big boost if you do convert, and if you've got an aggressive coach, you can outright win the game in regulation if you score a TD and convert another 2-point conversion. The reason the analytics guy say go for two earlier (and this only applies to the 4th quarter) is because you can gameplan around the clock and your remaining timeouts and the two-minute warning a little easier. It's not a huge advantage, though. Whether you fail for two in the middle of the 4th or at the end, you probably have to attempt an onside kick anyway, which is always low percentage. But generally, the earlier you know you have to kick an onside kick, the better.

[@jessyfretz5800]

It depends on the outcome. If you get it, it's the right call 100% of the time. But if you don't get it, it's the right call 0% of the time.

[@blahblahmeowchow6383]

@@mrmacross Yeah, I thought this was pretty obvious.... apparently not, lol

[@Universemasterj]

Took 2:40 for bill to start talking conspiracy lol

[@GoodnightwithGlomstad]

Someone tell Billy Corgan that, having Stephen Hauschka as your kicker and Marshawn Lynch as your running back was a nailbiting choice. The hawks lost a huge game because of that. He makes a good point though.

[@pts5217]

I agree. Buffalo going for 2 early was mistake

[@dmzone64]

Bill Burr, you are like my grandma when she went senile... never happy, never satisfied, always bitchin'

[@mrquirky3626]

You'll get that way too once you're in your 50s.

[@ORagnar]

2:40 Just like "2001: A Space Odyssey" ... "I Can't Do That, Dave." Oh no, the future is now. 0-/ e_dgp

[@drei602]

The PAT is not automatic either.

[@Wazhadnin-wj5te]

NFL needs to work on the dumb coin toss for overtime.

[@327Erich]

I despise the 2-point conversion to tie the game in the second quarter. Apparently, the stupid (and I mean (STUPID) analytics geeks disagree, which is why we saw not ONE, but TWO teams (Washington and Buffalo) do that this past weekend and fail both times. Imagine how that KC/Buffalo game plays out at the end if the Bills had even one more point on the board when the game was tied late. It's probably at least a little different.

[@Angelicus-p5p]

How about the rouge? (CFL). 😅

[@captainobvious4556]

Analytics has ruined sports

[@jkorshak]

It's ruined "gut" oriented sports appreciation. Analytics is just insight that cuts through the subjective bullshit of how to understand and target better outcomes and goals in sports.

[@mo7571]

​@@jkorshakyou can take out the emotional aspect of evaluating sports. But, you can't completely remove the "potential" talent someone has

[@jkorshak]

@ No one's removing anything. Analytics offers objective data to identify strengths, weakness, and potential for contribution in whatever area towards a goal. Analytics can offer perspective on potential but it neither establishes or removes that potential, excepting only by presenting trends from past performance and illustrating degrees of progress or regress towards objective milestones.

[@TriforcePlayer2]

Bill Burr right as usual lol

[@theDigInto]

Seems like McDermott isn't going to be able to help them get to where they want to be. Both teams were going to score more. Tying up the game in the first half wouldn't be as critical as losing a point in the process. Especially if you feel you're playing the refs as well. I just don't know what head coach could be found that would be any better at this point.

[@TheAeroRising]

Even worse. They took the XP off the board to go for it.

[@kelvinquartey6888]

Buffalo literally messed their momentum up on the 1st 2 point try smh

[@MidwestMountainMan]

TFW you're a math nerd who has calculated your own probability trees that support going for two and Bill Burr calls you out.

[@souljahroch2519]

Jesus said, a point on the board is better than 2 on the field😉

[@ThePeperjack]

Ayy Billy aipac burr

[@Hickybill]

He has a wife that tells him what to do. So the car driving him doesn’t seem like a stretch

[@paulday5722]

Driving a car will steadily become yet another everyday skill that most people never learn to do. It surprises me how many younger people have no interest in getting a license. Four decades ago, when I was in high school, it was a right of passage to adulthood. Now it's a responsibility to avoid as much as possible.

[@kennytaco4474]

That’s not really the case everywhere in the US. I have a sibling in HS in Minneapolis and pretty much every kid whose family can afford another car has a license or is trying to get one. Cars/insurance costs is causing less high school drivers from my perspective.

[@teranmm]

Like riding a horse?

[@kennytaco4474]

@@teranmm think critically and more importantly logically. Owning a car will be viewed as upper class in the future. Just like it was in the past. People aren’t going back to horses. Because those cost an arm and a leg as welll!!!!

[@CharlieQuartz]

@@kennytaco4474That’s what they were saying

[@teranmm]

@@kennytaco4474 owning a car is a waste anyways. Give me future car robots.

[@adrianstumpp5883]

I remember when Bill Burr was funny. That was awesome.

[@zcvxs]

The only thing real about football is the half time show

[@albertjiminez1144]

I'm not a fan of the 2-point conversion being so close to the goal line. You should make it in from the 5. And while I am at it, if you get intercepted or fumble (and recovered by the defense) on a 2-point attempt, your opponent should get a chance at a conversion one play after.

[@johnchedsey1306]

If you run back a picked off conversion, the defense gets points. It's rare, but it happens!

[@kcsnipes]

Who is the Boston big 3 ? Pierce Garnett Ray Allen ? Or Bird Parrish McHale

[@camicawber]

Probably Pierce/Garnett/Allen. Not that those guys were better, but he was more likely to be living in LA when they played.

[@brando7266]

McDermott cost the bills, more than the refs,

[@Ja50nkAt]

Well burr sometimes a team gets 2 field goals and a touchback which is 8 which means to tie the game the other team needs that 2 point conversion.🤷

[@jocde3626]

Luv ya guys But numbers and odds of probability MAKES SENSE FACTS OVER FEELINGS

[@johntate131]

I don’t get going for 2 or going for it on 4th down in the first half of a game. The whole modern game absolutely sucks. You can’t play defense, refs throw the flag liberally, the league plays favorites, and coaches lean too far into analytics. Not to mention annual rule changes that change the entire complexity and integrity of the sport. That’s why ppl think he game is rigged. Not to mention the sports betting sites that actually run the game. No thanks. Haven’t watched football for a few years now and now I’m into the college game. Not watching the Super Bowl either. This league is for normies/swifties not real football fans

[@Shifty1940]

Yeah Rich, people think thoughts. Next time don’t be so surprised about election results.

[@macriggs3667]

All I hear from this guy is bitching and whining.

[@leeward6762]

Bill Burr used to be funny.

[@nb7216]

THIS GUY ISNT A FOOTBALL COACH WHY IS HE EVEN TALKING ABOUT THIS?

[@kellykarcher7179]

He's talking about it because he's 100% correct. It's been proven time and time again that by going for two points early in the game (and failing) comes back to bite you in the end!

[@nb7216]

@@kellykarcher7179 success rate is around 50% so if you just go for it again statistically it makes sense. But i was just joking this is what Bill Burr says if you question government officials or big pharma

[@kellykarcher7179]

@@nb7216 Oh, okay. I get what you're saying now. Thanks...

[@GraylenGoOutside]

Burr 2028

[@totallybored5526]

Good god American sports are tedious and make no sense

[@mikegreen7379]

I heard of a high school football team that dominated by ALWAYS going for it on 4th down

[@madtownangler]

I stopped going to live games and concerts thirty years ago. Now you gotta worry about sitting in line outside the stadium and some crazy person will decide to drive into the crowd. Watching it on television is good enough for me. Pretty soon you'll have to pay for every game then I'm totally done with the NFL

[@Jacob-gp1nw]

My favorite part was when California liberals had Bill Burr trying to explain how the fires were unpreventable, how everyone on the internet is stupid

[@dualityofman1253]

Nerds ruined the world!

[@Pavlovshouse-ud5ek]

But he sure loves big inefficient government. Lost all respect for him.

[@BineyT]

Im not a fan of Bill.

[@SuspectAccount]

Bill for President.

[@cbcoolbreeze]

Did his wife say it was ok to say these things.

[@mrgannon]

I would think a true Fonzarelli like yourself would think flipping off the president is pretty based

[@reviewer0418]

go upstairs for dinner kid

[@brettmcnamara5002]

@@mrgannon It would have been if she had a career of her own. Evidently, that wasn’t the case as all of the backlash went to Burr. Too bad that Louie C.K. was perv, he’s a lot funnier and more talented than Bill Burr.

[@teranmm]

Aww poor alpha boy is upset

[@laffingist218]

i love him but he's the oldest man about understanding how points work in sports. old heads love playing for ties and planning for failure.

[@BUCKETJON]

America is not a fan of Bill Burr

[@scottiei]

The band who wrote “Horse With No Name?”

[@mrgannon]

@@BUCKETJON His concert here in FL was sold TF out. Despite those crappy little phone bags they made us use

[@teranmm]

Magat begone

[@jkorshak]

Near as i can tell South and Central America seem mostly ambivalent but Burr remains a popular actor/comedian here in North America.

[@BUCKETJON]

Touchy bunch here 😆