Rich Eisen Refutes Richard Sherman: Matthew Stafford IS a Hall of Famer | The Rich Eisen Show

[@jordanfournier4366]

Pro Bowls are just are popularity contest, Stafford threw for 41 tds and 5000/4900 yds TWICE, and didn't make the pro bowl either of those times.

[@omgDavidGlasper]

All those comebacks too.

[@revilloteoj1934]

No all decade, no all pro, no MVPs l, no super bowl MVPs what about that?

[@eliteteamkiller319]

@@revilloteoj1934 Detroit Lions, Detroit Lions, Detroit Lions, Detroit Lions what about that?

[@Eliuno]

@@eliteteamkiller319 excuse,excuse,excuse

[@eliteteamkiller319]

@@Eliuno First year off the Lions he wins the Super Bowl. The Lions have won ONE playoff game in the last SIXTY-FOUR YEARS. It's not an "excuse." They are the doormats of professional sports.

[@iansaunders8215]

You know who probably doesn’t care about this....Matthew Stafford, and thats the kinda guy he is. Right now he’s happy he has one a Super Bowl.

[@yaydog2702]

You know this question comes up every year someone wins the Super Bowl lol

[@johngalt6838]

Yup......and overpaid for a decade

[@TK-ti6dg]

@@johngalt6838 He could’ve went elsewhere and made a ton more money

[@sherqyanstromain9580]

@@TK-ti6dg and have an amazing legacy

[@omgDavidGlasper]

You are so right. Thats probably part of the reason he never gets Pro Bowl nods...because they know he wont be hurt by the snub. He is super classy!

[@chadg3215]

Thank you Rich for sticking up for our boy Stafford, he deserves a jacket.

[@Hanover-ek4jy]

11 losing seasons? He deserves a jacket?

[@TaylorRV79]

@@Hanover-ek4jy did you even watch the video?

[@Hanover-ek4jy]

@@TaylorRV79 11 losing seasons!

[@douglassgarvey653]

He doesn't yet! What has he done? Can't use the Lions as an excuse cuz Barry Sanders and Megatron became the best of their position for multiple seasons

[@KenGKaiden]

@@douglassgarvey653 "Their positions" is the key part here. Cause they sure as hell weren't QBs.

[@fightforever]

If Richard Sherman was drafted by the Lions nobody would even know who he is

[@HaezeusYT]

Exactly! Maybe get some slay love but he is really a system player and SEA was the perfect fit for him. Anywhere else I really don’t think we hear from Sherman too much

[@kilkongarlla]

Thye would, everyone knows barry Sanders and calvin johnson

[@yonamzigu291]

Lions have hall of famers we all know them, Stafford just wasnt that great.

[@DavidHBurkart]

Perfectly said

[@Hothiboi]

Damn…

[@petebrown6356]

What also isn't mentioned...when Stafford joined the Lions they just had their 0-16 season....the WORST TEAM IN HISTORY was what he inherited.

[@jordanjennings3977]

Like I said, it’s not an accident Stafford’s arm is responsible for two of the greatest receiver seasons ever.

[@richardpage5812]

Exactly

[@omgDavidGlasper]

And a cannon for an arm it is.

[@ImperiousRexRacing]

My favorite responses are: “He had the two best receivers catching the ball. All you have to do is throw it up.” Yeah buddy, just throw it up and it’s super easy. Barely an inconvenience.

[@CountrySixStringer]

Jordan, that is fact. It's no accident. He is a great talent and he was forgotten in Detroit.

[@justinpettit8099]

Agree. I still think Sherm has a great point here though at the same time.

[@inst4rmin.x4_onYT]

For some of those people wanting to argue the two all time receiving seasons wouldn't matter, because it's the receiver's accomplishment.. Jerry Rice's season came with Steve Young, Larry Fitzgerald's with Kurt Warner... And for those pointing to how these Rams were a "stacked" team: so were the Bucs even before Brady got there and yet they were held back by QB play.. And many other teams in history who still couldn't win it all 🤷🏻‍♂️ Even an all time great WR or a "stacked"/"super" team needs the right trigger man to achieve the highest of highs in individual and/or team success.. Usually a pretty great one, which Stafford absolutely is (and always has been)

[@thedarkemissary]

Except Young accomplished without Rice and Warner accomplished without Fitzgerald. Stafford's 1 Pro Bowl vs 11 Pro Bowls, 4 MVPs and 2 Super Bowl MVPs makes your comparison a joke. He couldn't even get Super Bowl MVP in your own narrative of he was the key to Rams winning it. Stafford fans seem to forget that every yardage record he's ever achieved has also come with the "most attempts" record.

[@leahmiller37]

💯💯💯!!! Matthew Stafford didn't win all the accolades bc he chose to stay with the team that picked him. He tried all he could to help them win even when he was harming his body. Yes, he did suffer through a lot and had a lot of INTs trying to desperately win games with an inept team but he still threw a lot of yards bc of that arm. This guy throws like Favre and Rodgers but they had and have better players to help them look viable. Matthew Stafford never had that until this year and he won the SB with it. They even picked Kyler Murray over Stafford for some award this season when his QB stats was only second to Brady!!! What must he do to get his recognition? I guess they will believe it next year bc if they had watched him all these years, they would already know!!!

[@leahmiller37]

@@thedarkemissary Young had more good players around him than just Jerry Rice. The team just needed an accurate QB which he was. The team was set before Young got there and you know it bc Young came right after Joe Montana.

[@LordCyler]

@@thedarkemissary The Lions went over 4 YEARS without 100 yard rusher. Of course he was asked to throw it a lot. But defenses knew that too. These are PROFESSIONAL chew you up and spit you out guys that knew he had to throw. IT MATTERS.

[@johngalt6838]

Up until last Sunday failed in so many big games, inopportune picks. He's very good.....about all.

[@chrisnivo]

So Barry Sanders isn't worthy, Calvin Johnson isn't worthy? Speaking about Pro Bowls, please explain how after finishing 3rd in passing yards, 2nd in TD's and 2nd passer rating this season he didn't get a Pro Bowl nod? He keeps getting disrespected and some people just can't accept greatness sometimes

[@yungforest6554]

Barry sanders and Calvin Johnson are all time greats. something Matt Stafford is not

[@waltermaul5586]

@@yungforest6554 who threw to Calvin Johnson dumb dumb lol no worries gronkowski was only good because Brady was throwing to him right?

[@stevehill4002]

The worst one was when he threw for 5000 plus yards and 41 tds the year he went to the pro bowl wasn't even close to his best year's crazy

[@chrisnivo]

@@yungforest6554 sorry I have to disagree with you, he has done everything and anything that could be expected of him with what he had in Detroit. There's no QB in history that could've done any better in the circumstances he was in.

[@justinpettit8099]

@@waltermaul5586 Shaun Hill, Dan Orlovsky, a washed up Culpepper, Drew Stanton, etc were all throwing him the ball too and Calvin still put up numbers with them too.

[@ShugarJunki]

Someone remind me, what was Kupps best season before Stafford got there?

[@franvarga709]

Look, Stafford is just getting started with the Rams. Can't wait to see what he and Kupp will do next seasson.

[@jfc3691]

And Allen Robinson is a beast. Great combo at WR

[@DanielBrown-sn9op]

C'mon. Rams broke RS's heart so many times. Hard to watch your enemies win it all.🐏🐏🏈🏆

[@warrenpeace1881]

This was the first time I’d heard someone talk about how two of the top four WR all-time single season yardage records had the same QB: Matthew Freakin Stafford.

[@adamaizenberg756]

Sherm mad he went to the Bucs instead of Rams And I didn’t need to look this up because I said this to my coworkers upon hearing this news. Megatron and Triple Crown Coop both have wr records and both have had Stafford as their qb… the end!

[@thedarkemissary]

So... you don't think Johnson would have achieved without Stafford? Get your eyes checked.

[@paolee2730]

@@thedarkemissary no

[@richardpage5812]

@@thedarkemissary If you know anything about football than you should know no matter how good the receiver is he needs a good quarterback to get him the ball. Seeing the difference in OBJ and what he started doing didn't show you that? Why is it you think a guy like Randy Moss can have a ridiculously unproductive year when you know what he's capable of doing? It's because a receive needs a good quarterback. Cooper KUPP didn't even have a thousand yards before Stafford got there and when he does he gets over 2400 that's Stafford. And it's Blatantly obvious but still people don't want to give him credit.

[@allforgreatness9883]

@@richardpage5812 you right

[@173jaSon371]

@@richardpage5812 Tell that to Deandre Hopkins or rookie Josh Gordon for 2 off the top of my head. The true greats dont need a top level QB, it just helps a damn lot

[@Rob-dp3vr]

When Calvin went down, Lions turned a safety into a receiver. Mike Furry. Stafford turned him in to a top 3 receiver that year, and Stafford was top 3. With a bunch of nobodies at receiver because Calvin was out. And a dead last run game, and defense that always gave up the lead.

[@dylansanchez631]

That wasn’t even Matthew Stafford.. Furry had his 1000 yard season in 2006, a whole three years before stafford was drafted

[@ccth22]

Stafford is a great QB that’s why the Rams gave up so much to get him and he delivered in one year...

[@billythekidder7182]

Yes all by himself. Gtfoh

[@cjhill1000]

@@billythekidder7182 who has ever won all by themselves?

[@christophersomers9392]

He's clutch at times, but 17 interceptions. Goff would've won this year with that team. I love Stafford, as a life long Lions fan, but he actually played below the level than most of his years as a Lion.

[@cjhill1000]

@@christophersomers9392 if you think Goff could win with this team you're crazy. He was terrible in the playoffs leading to the Superbowl. He is tied with Russell Wilson with the least amount of TDs thrown by a QB and getting to the Superbowl with 1. Stafford had 3 game winning comeback drives in a row and actually helped his team get to and win the Superbowl. If you don't think he's aHoFamer yet then cool, but don't act like he was carried to a title and had nothing to do with it.

[@allforgreatness9883]

@@christophersomers9392 stop stop he cant even get the ball down the field he is the reason they lost to New England making bad throws then having a bad season after that superbowl

[@VulcanLogic]

Stafford's W/L record as a starter is 86-95-1, a win rate of 47.5%. But let me show you just how godawful the Lions are without him. Their record since the retirement of Barry Sanders and without Matt Stafford as the starting quarterback (including Stafford's 27 missed games to injury) is 48-147-1. That's a win rate of 24.6%. It's like playing for 12 seasons and going 4-12 every year but one, and that year was 3-13-1 (this year). Stafford carried that team. He hard carried that team. But you can't make the pro bowl when the rest of the team sucks and no one outside your division is watching the games. Literally everyone in the NFC north knows. Stafford also has the #7 WR season, Calvin in 2011.

[@Madvillainy48]

That's crazy that Kupp out of all people has that many more yards than Rice, Larry, and CJ. Was he ever even considered a top 5 reciever up until this season?

[@jfc3691]

And the 4 years before Stafford, he averaged 893 yards per years.

[@mw82225]

As of right now, Stafford is 5th in 4th quarter comebacks, 12th is passing TDs, 12th is in passing yards, and 11th in passes completed. He was the QB for the best WR single seasons with Calvin Johnson and Cooper Kupp. He is also the fastest player to get to 45,000 passing yards. Anyone who thinks he isn’t a hall of famer is a moron lol.

[@richardpage5812]

By the time he's done there won't even be a debate about it.

[@michaeltracy2725]

You and anyone else who thinks he’s a HOF is a moron. All of his numbers are inflated just like any QB to play in this era of football will when comparing them to the past. A 20 year old record (5,000 yards passing)is now passed yearly. That should tell you how much the game has changed in favor of the offense especially the passing game. This has to be accounted for when your looking at all time numbers. The HOF is for the elite of the elite and that’s not Stafford.

[@173jaSon371]

And Bledsoe retired 13 in TDs and 7th in yards, while 5th in attempts and completions. Doesnt mean much when you were always the 7th-12 best active QB

[@richardpage5812]

@@michaeltracy2725 His numbers LITERALLY say he is, and when he's done hell probably be top 5 in most categories and then you'll just find something else to say.😐

[@richardpage5812]

@@173jaSon371 Please name me 7 to 10 quarterback's better than Stafford, you Stafford haters are weird as hell no sense what so ever in some of the things you believe.😂🤣

[@WoolfJ35]

That fact that he threw to 2 WRs out of the 4 all-time receiving seasons is HoF worthy lol

[@rafisanders]

Sherman is correct, Matt Stafford isn't a Hof RIGHT NOW. But in 6 years, he'll have the criteria. He's only 33 QBs are playing longer and longer. He probably has 5-6 more years of prime. He'll make more pro bowls and all pros

[@dertfert745]

Now that he won the superbowl, he'll be popular enough to get voted to pro bowls

[@thedon89]

Rich Eisen you are the best! The point you made in this video is epic! Thanks!

[@imabadmofosofux2348]

Again the fact that he was able to do it with Johnson was amazing. Every defense had a plan for Johnson and they still put up ridiculous numbers.

[@LuisAyala-un6mp]

Cooper Kupp and Calvin Johnson, best record in NFL history, because of who? Yup, that definitely accounts for something

[@joseph-michealfields9559]

I'm confused...so playing for the losing Detroit lions prevents you from making the pro bowl or being and all pro but Calvin Johnson made 4 all pros and 6 pro bowls while Barry Sanders 6 all pros and 10 pro bowls plus he won an MVP...something aint adding up

[@fullmetal1766]

I just wrote the same example its a joke

[@TheCountofToulouse]

Sometimes people only want to mention Malone and forget Stockton. Everyone likes to act like Calvin Johnson could have done all that with anyone at QB. TWO of the best WR seasons ever have got Stafford throwing them the ball. I think you said it best "I'm confused".

[@matthewdigiacomo2580]

I love when I hear the naysayers say Stafford is a turnover machine. However, as of right now his interception percentage of better than EVERY quarterback that is currently in the Hall of Fame.

[@taylorackley9144]

All this hate for Stafford. Disrespect. What are you all going to say about him vs Rogers if he wins another in LA and Rogers goes one and done again with or without Green Bay?

[@pretzelhunt]

lotta ifs ..

[@taylorackley9144]

@@pretzelhunt just two actually. And this year, Rogers lost for the third year in a row, hasn’t won a super bowl since 2010, and has lost to the 49ers four times in the playoffs. Most of this Rams unit is returning around Stafford. An MVP or All Pro year over the next six ices it. Sorry.

[@pretzelhunt]

@@taylorackley9144 the important parts might not be returning around him. 2 ifs x2 =4. Why does he deserve an MVP again? not sorry.

[@lashaysmith4727]

@@taylorackley9144 aaron Rodgers the reason Matthew Stafford have not won in Detroit people talk about Matthew not having Talent around him in Detroit when aaron Rodgers carry packers his whole career and still won packers superbowl

[@blackanimelover18]

Rodgers has 4 MVPs, tf are you talking about?

[@stackmanification]

I doubt many people would consider Cooper Kupp as good of a receiver as Calvin Johnson, so if Kupp isn’t as capable as Johnson, then it only furthers the fact that Stafford elevated Kupp beyond Johnson. Either that, or we have to have a conversation about whether or not Kupp is a better receiver than Johnson.

[@eda639]

Kupp is a better pure receiver than Calvin though his routes are way better hands atleast equal only physical tools and catch in traffic Calvin is better

[@TheCountofToulouse]

B I N G O ! ! !

[@JasonTom]

Super Bowl Champion and former Pro Bowler Matthew Stafford is in my humble and honest opinion is a future Pro Football Hall of Fame quarterback. He took the Detroit Lions to 3 NFL postseason runs. Number 9 deserves a yellow jacket as a first ballot HOF.

[@NicardoNeil]

I don't think Eisen realizes he's actually bolstering Sherman's point with almost everything he's saying. To be clear, Stafford has time. But to say he didn't do much cuz he had a bad organization is contradicted by the guy he just played int he Superbowl: Joe Burrow. The Bengals have been just as inept an organization and Burrow takes them to the Superbowl in within 2 years. Not saying Burrow is a HOF'er obviously, but what he just did is the kind of thing HOF'ers do and if he keeps that up then he will be. Saying someone isn't a HOF'er isn't an insult...it speaks to the standards of being a HOF'er. The circumstances you were in is part of the HOF journey. As a QB you don't get to say "well I didn't succeed cuz my organization sucked but I'm still a HOF'er cuz look at my longevity stats". A WR can say. A RB can say that. But that's cuz they don't influence the game as much as QBs. QB is a special position. Playing in this passing era for a long time with above average talent will inevitably result in gaudy stats. But if you didn't win much and rarely top 5 at ur position (if ever) you can't be a HOF'er. But again...he has time.

[@xcwilliams7980]

Sorry, the Bengals are not as bad of an organization as the Lions.

[@TheCountofToulouse]

He didn't 'do much'? Look at all the records he broke and currently holds. Dude, just go back to taking selfies.

[@NicardoNeil]

@@xcwilliams7980 a matter of opinion. They're not that far apart over the last 20+ years.

[@NicardoNeil]

@@TheCountofToulouse As I said, he's talented. And he's played in the most pass happy era of football. Surrounded by talent. Of course he has gaudy stats. So does Matt Ryan. But nobody is arguing to put him in the HOF. And he's actually been an MVP, unlike Stafford.

[@remidemeere7894]

Lions fans know how great this guy was he made being a lion fan worthwhile

[@nardoharold7017]

Thank you Rich. Sherman is just salty stafford Sent him to la casa

[@blackanimelover18]

Why would he be salty? Sherman is a champion and a hall of fame lock.

[@edfa3706]

Sherman is definitely going to hall of fame.

[@nardoharold7017]

@@edfa3706 Richard Sherman has 37 career interceptions that’s only 7 more than my favorite player ray Lewis who was a linebacker 😂😂😂 big whoop he

[@RJ-qs6nm]

@@edfa3706 the hall of fame of getting burned by watkins to lose a super bowl

[@wnique]

No way Sherman is in the hall of fame.

[@bluejay2623]

So Russel Wilson isn't a HOF'er then either? Stafford has better numbers and same amount of superbowls 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@revilloteoj1934]

He not

[@ye.ha.8378]

the problem with Matthew Stafford is the Rams literally went to the Super Bowl 2-years ago with a below average QB it's literally a super team

[@jordanjennings3977]

And scored three points and loss. We scored 23 and won. He made all the difference

[@saidufofanah2210]

@@jordanjennings3977 this Rams team is better then the team from prior seasons

[@richardpage5812]

He literally saved them with multiple game winning drives to get them to the Superbowl and then to win it.🤨

[@allforgreatness9883]

Stop saying its a super team god damn lol odell and von was picked from waviers and weddle came off the couch just stop lol

[@bradrichardsoniii1895]

This is the start of Staffords legacy

[@cmill7180]

Let’s talk about Darren Woodson … -premiere defense player that won 3 Super Bowls. -All time tackle leader for Cowboys -Ask Jerry Rice

[@shawnheidingsfelder8179]

I've been saying that the Cowboys Defense never recovered after he retired. Even this year's bunch. Woodson was that important to their success.

[@13SilverSoul]

Matthew Stafford is a Super Bowl winning QB and STILL not getting respect.

[@damionhunter314]

Respect does not automatically mean HOF. He is good, just not one of the best to ever do it.

[@zacgrasl4229]

@@damionhunter314 was Kurt Warner? Or Warren Moon? Was Steve Young?

[@allforgreatness9883]

@@damionhunter314 the thing is why is people mentioning hall of fame when he is far from done playing! Once he is done there is no denying it sherman is just a washed up hater who loss to that non hof twice!

[@ajalvarez3111]

I would argue that Stafford did lift the Lions...he lifted them farther than anyone else would have. Without him, they may have been winless a couple of those seasons.

[@ColdBloodedProd]

The Lions excuse now is kinda running out though. Burrow took the Bengals to a super bowl in his second year and first full season in the nfl and the worst offensive line in the league. And let’s not pretend the Rams aren’t a super team. I can see what Sherman is saying. Stafford played a big part in this season and he deserves props, but Burrow played a huge part in carrying his team to the super bowl and playing pretty damn competitively in that game if I might add. Burrow has Chase, sure, but Stafford had Megatron. I think the comparison is totally fair

[@HaezeusYT]

Ok O line is bad, sure. But the rest of their team hello?!?!?? They’re stacked i.e. the most explosive offense in the nfl with a stout D. Stafford never had that 😂. It’s not an excuse but his best Lions roster is not touching the Bengals roster this year

[@cody5089]

I mean Burrow had a better defense than what the Lions had and a better running back than what Stafford had.

[@FiendishDr_Wu]

Bengals ain’t the Lions

[@ColdBloodedProd]

@@cody5089 c’mon now, only elite level running backs are the ones making a difference in the post season. Let’s not pretend having an above average running back was what was holding Stafford back in Detroit. I can see the defense argument, but I wouldn’t call them elite by any stretch. Hell, they had Eli Apple covering the best receiver in the game.

[@antoniomatthews4459]

What was the Bengals record when Burrow went down?

[@harveygaiter]

Rich is absolutely right!

[@kevinanderson263]

Sherman sounded big mad tbh.

[@Cryptum404]

Sherman is just saying these things to take away from his domestic abus

[@Dlavelle100]

Both may be true honestly. Him being big mad and Stafford not HoF

[@edwardshaw1743]

Yeah he's a little hung over

[@earthpart3]

no he sounds like he's trying to look at it objectively instead of being stuck in the moment.

[@LA37truwarier]

@@earthpart3 he's taking the opportunity from the SB to boost his relevance and Podcast lol. Easy to see he wants the attention

[@clarasdk]

Offcourse Stafford should go into the HOF, he is an amazing QB. He played 12 years for a bad team and did good, now he is even better. Nobody is saying Marino is a bad QB how should not be in the HOF just because he did not win a SB.... Now Stafford has the stats and the SB. First ballot HOF!

[@fullmetal1766]

Being good isnt hall of fame

[@coreyhiggins6890]

Hn

[@chadbinette3201]

Calvin Johnson made A few pro bowls And all pros In Detroit. I like Stafford, Im glad he got to prove himself outside of Detroit, but To me A hall of famer has to be atleast A top 5 player At His position for atleast 4-5 years. Ontop Of doing more In thier CAREER. A bunch of yards because your behind In majority of your games Is kind of expected.

[@chadlionsfan5057]

Bout time somebody gives him his due, great show!!!! I keep saying he played hurt broken ribs broken fingers and still had many many games with 300 yards plus in Detroit!!

[@Perrples]

Everyone is giving him his do

[@mikeparker6322]

He looked like a Hall of Famer in 2008 when he separated his shoulder and stayed in the game. Then he threw a touchdown with a dead left shoulder. He survived 12 years in Detroit. He should get a medal just for that. Just wonder if Russell Wilson had been drafted by Cleveland?

[@jeffgreer5227]

Just proof the Stafford hate is real.! Goff an all pro in LA. 2 seasons in a row ( Stafford traded because he’s a better Qb)went to Detroit took 11 games to win first game. Thought Goff all pro how come he couldn’t win here. Rich Eisen and Cowherd only ones calling the bias out. It’s ridiculous

[@evilkingster]

It's what if been saying lol this whole pro bowl, all pro crap is obvious hand given popularity even the mvp to an extend as well.

[@dannyhantx]

Sherman is right. Stafford is not a HoFer... at the moment. But he still has several years to add to his resume.

[@jarenkelly5475]

I mean Calvin Johnson played for the same Detroit team and he had all the accolades like 6 Pro bowls, 4 All pros, All decade team.

[@thedarkemissary]

Exactly. So did Sanders. Achieving greatness despite the Lions is HoF material. Not running away to a stacked team.

[@brucebruce7065]

Exactly why he doesn't deserve to be in the HoF. Totally agree! 👍

[@TheRawfishking]

So Calvin throws the ball to himself? GtfoH...ain't no Stafford or Rams fan...but the truth can't be discounted nor dismissed. Stop the hate.

[@MattPawlowski]

Stafford had a 5000 yard season and wasn't voted into the Pro Bowl. What is he supposed to do if that doesn't get him voted in to the popularity contest?????

[@richardpage5812]

That's because Quarterbacks get the glory when they win but get the brunt of the blame when they lose even when it's not their fault. Wins and losses would never matter for a receiver when receiving acculades but for a quarterback it means everything. The gift and the curse of the QB they get the glory when it goes right and get the blame when things fall off the rails.

[@ughnicewatch]

In 2011 Stafford didn't make the Pro Bowl with 41 TDs 16 INTs 5083 yards and a 10-6 team record. That year Andy Dalton made it with 20 TDs 13 INTs 3390 yards and a 9-7 record. Ben Roethlisberger made it with 21 TDs 14 INTs 4077 yards. Phil Rivers made it with 27 TDs 20 INTs and 4625 yards. Pro Bowl doesn't count for anything.

[@darrelhawkins9038]

Now name the NFC QBs fot that year that made it

[@blackanimelover18]

All pro does tho, same with All Decade. And MVP.

[@brucebruce7065]

@@darrelhawkins9038 Right, all of them was in the other conference. Pro Bowls don't matter anyway because fans get majority votes for a popularity contest. What matters is he has *ZERO* All Pros. I mean it's good that he got a ring, but he has never been even considered one of the best in his entire playing career. He doesn't belong in HoF. Like another commenter said, the Rams got to the Super Bowl just a few years ago with Jared Goff and far less superstar talent

[@darrelhawkins9038]

@@brucebruce7065 thats the point people are not getting they made it with a different QB 4 years ago. Stafford is good but he doesn't strike fear into nobody, 0 all pros, have games to where he throws head scratching interceptions. People confuse good with great too much

[@ughnicewatch]

@@darrelhawkins9038 Eli Manning

[@raniasaad8772]

stafford here is weird. anyone with football knowledge can see he has one of the better arms in history. one of the toughest qbs in history. one of the most clutch qbs in history. took the damn lions to the playoffs. hes a HOFer

[@raniasaad8772]

hate*

[@kilkongarlla]

Hes not, unless standard are that low

[@utewbd]

@@kilkongarlla 50,000 passing yards and 36 comeback victories playing with the LIONS? And the moment he goes to a better team wins a Superbowl? The two best seasons ever had by a receiver in NFL history both "coincidentally" had Stafford as the QB? Easy HoFer.

[@yaydog2702]

Next your gonna tell me Kirk cousins is a hof qb too

[@raniasaad8772]

@@yaydog2702 casual

[@jonhammer7109]

Yep a big double standard. Seems like whatever he does seems never enough for these fools. Haters or whatever they are.

[@TheCountofToulouse]

If only he was mixed race or black, they'd already be filming his 'I over came' movie, showing what great character he has and that he was ignored because he was black and blah blah blah.

[@okeefe80]

#12 all time passing #7 most game winning drives #4 most comeback wins and still playing

[@CodyJamez707]

TY Rich for bringing it up! It hit me yesterday and I was waiting for ANYONE to mention it… but how the hell can MEGATRON get in and NOT his plus 1SUPERBOWL still playing Matthew Stafford???

[@BigAnthx412]

Rich Eisen: You can’t make All-Pros and Pro Bowls playing in Detroit Calvin Johnson literally did both 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@BigAnthx412]

@High Flyin Harris Big Facts Thank You

[@inst4rmin.x4_onYT]

Calvin Johnson also did none of these things before Stafford 🤷🏻‍♂️😉

[@brucebruce7065]

@@inst4rmin.x4_onYT And he was also forced to walk away because Stafford kept getting him blown up

[@blackanimelover18]

@@inst4rmin.x4_onYT He played two seasons without Stafford, stop acting like he was some bum before Stafford came along.

[@joemckim1183]

Before this year Stafford had plenty of the stats to be a Hall of Famer and now he has a Super Bowl win so not sure how he wouldn't be a HOFer.

[@loganford1220]

1:10 You just made the argument for him not getting in. I like stafford and hope he continues to build a resume that undeniable. But we cant just project how good he wouldve been had he not been stuck in Detroit.

[@HaezeusYT]

He literally proved it this season by showing the world what he could do to with a competent team

[@FiendishDr_Wu]

@@HaezeusYT Not to mention he was still pretty damn good in Detroit. No All Pros but he’s had Rodgers, Brees and ultimately Brady in the NFC for the duration of his entire career to this point. The pro bowl is a damn popularity contest, he’s earned more pro bowls than he’s been in but that’ll happen playing for the Lions. Career W/L should even out after a few more years in LA. He’s not in if he retires todays but I think he can play another 7 years and at that point he’s a lock after that SB.

[@kilkongarlla]

Lead the league in interceptions and be bailed out by one of the greatest defensive players of all time

[@evilkingster]

@@kilkongarlla lmaooo yea because if he doesn't throw that TD to kupp it doesn't matter what the defense does since they didn't cause any turnover either

[@allforgreatness9883]

@@kilkongarlla stop hating dude

[@michaelwainscott2633]

Richard Sherman played the game, Eisen did not. Eisen can look at a stat sheet, Sherman knows empty numbers are kind of meaningless.

[@aldaran54]

Well said Rich! No more double standars please

[@pchinnIII]

Richard Sherman made valid points. Yours are the opinions of the moment. Stafford is not a Hall of Fame football player. There are a lot of good things to be said about Matthew Stafford but HOF is too much. Richard Sherman is right.

[@allforgreatness9883]

Sherman aint HOF either he forever running his mouth he mad he got beat twice by that non HOF QB he is talking about.

[@pchinnIII]

@@allforgreatness9883 This kind of feels like the "I know you are but what am I?"argument level.

[@courtneywatts7696]

We forget those receivers also played with only 1 other receiver. Pretty easy to double team that

[@normanschrock2534]

Richard Sherman keeps putting others down hoping to make himself look better. He is definitely a great player, but his character takes a hit every time he belittles another player.

[@brucemackenzie4952]

Matthew Stanford is not a Hall of Famer yet. He has the unique ability that my dad use to say of Steve Young and Bret Favre of keeping both teams in the game. He threw 2 interceptions against the 49ers and should have been three and they would not have gone to the Super Bowl. Let’s see a few years and see if he can be consistent.

[@nallen1006]

Next year stafford is top 10 ALL TIME in yards and TD's. If thats not HOF enough, stafford also created 2 triple crown receivers. There have only been 4 in that last 60 years, stafford has created 2 of them.

[@BigEd8]

Stafford was the reason that Detroit won any games. Matthew Stafford is a hall of famer.

[@dceballos067]

You sold me Rich, you made great points.

[@aaronpaul9188]

Stafford threw for over 5000 yards and 40 TDs and didn't make the probowl. This year kyler Murry went to the probowl and Stafford didn't. Look at their numbers and tell me Murry deserved it over Stafford. Probowls isn't a good metric since it didn't matter what he did, he wasn't getting accolades. He had a top 5 season all time, and didn't make the probowl.

[@beachhunting69]

The 'Probowl' is a joke these days. 13 year olds are eligible to vote. It's a popularity contest.

[@aaronpaul9188]

@@beachhunting69 100% big Ben went to 6 probowls neat. He was never an all pro and never got a single MVP vote. I wonder if Richard Sherman considers him a HoF. What about his QB? Wilson also has zero mvp awards and was never 1st team all pro. Is Wilson a hall of famer?

[@beachhunting69]

@@aaronpaul9188 Great point about Ben...who should be a first ballot HOF QB. If Stafford stays healthy, plays 3-4 more years and has a few deep playoff runs, he should be in the HOF. Playing 3-4 years at 4K a year, he would pass Elway, Eli and Marino in passing yards. That should get him in the HOF. As for Richard Sherman....never mind ! LOL

[@vinnyvici2835]

Wasn't separated shoulder. It was a broken collar bone

[@Matt_Guns]

No actually it was a torn Acromio clavicular (AC) joint which is way worse, I've endured it skateboarding, it sucks.

[@vinnyvici2835]

@@Matt_Guns I stand corrected. Your right.

[@sagittarianking1398]

Great Point RICH !!

[@damionhunter314]

Nick Wright made a great comparison between Stanford and Matt Ryan. Ryan has better numbers in nearly every category, and played better in his Super Bowl (besides the fact that he got Bradied and lost). So do we put Ryan in? I like Stafford, but he is not one of the best to ever do it. We are watering down the HOF when it comes to QB’s.

[@GFarrsight]

ryan didnt have a clutch td drve in the superbowl late in the 4th. stafford played great one pick deflected off receivers hands and one was a 50 50 ball in a non crucial part of the game. Stafford has a legendary superbowl winning play what does ryan have? it aint a ring

[@BetoGarram]

Agreed. If Matt Stafford is HOF worthy then Matt Ryan is a HOF LOCK, since it seems all it takes is one great season (Stafford got a super bowl, Ryan got MVP).

[@Pro-dp3sh]

FINALLY. So sick of hearing people diss Stafford out of hall of fame.

[@stanleyaltra6229]

Let's not forget Stafford actually did lift the Lions. In his 12 seasons there they won 79 games, finished 2nd in the division 4 times, and went to the playoffs 3 times. In the 12 seasons prior to Stafford (97-08), the Lions won 62 games, never finished higher than 3rd in the division, and went to the playoffs twice although had missed them in 9 straight years leading up to Stafford.

[@JrJVintage1956]

when Calvin Johnson set the all time yardage record in a season ... who was throwing to him? Same guy that threw to Cooper Kupp when he came up 20 years shy?

[@brucebruce7065]

"20 years shy"?? To me, he still hasn't done enough to be HoF worthy.

[@peterchonson9262]

i still don't understand all these hate for Stafford by other players

[@angelcanez4426]

He was the guy that threw all of the passes to Hall of Fame receiver Calvin Johnson.

[@johngalt6838]

Prevent yards against bad teams

[@mahmoodsafdari5223]

Now they do wanna put anybody in the Hall of Fame Hall of Fame means best of the best in your position And there’s a lot of QBs that I will not even put in the Hall of Fame but they are there The bar has been lowered for sure for HOF Canaanites

[@angelicalynn1259]

At this stage no it doesn't. Eli was NEVER a top five QB in the league yet he will get in.

[@yungforest6554]

@@angelicalynn1259 two wrongs don't make a right. plus he's getting for two iconic super bowl runs. With this standard Kirk cousins would be a hall of fame if he won a ring

[@angelicalynn1259]

@@yungforest6554 That is not what I said. IS Stafford one of the best QB's in his time? Actually yes he is. The fact that he played with a shitty organization makes his actual accomplishments that much more impressive. The one time he actually has a good team around him he wins a SB. He has had very few good players around him until this year and only one great one (considering that one was a WR he had a HUGE part in making Megatron what he was). Too many want to hold it against Stafford because he was drafted by the horrible Lions.

[@AztecRay]

Sherman is the new version of " He Hate Me"

[@pretzelhunt]

you mean Stafford?

[@jackgoff69]

@@pretzelhunt no Sherman.

[@pretzelhunt]

@@jackgoff69 Sounds like Staffords the one getting all the hate judging by the comments.

[@DC-eq4yh]

I'd need to see Staffords overall numbers first and keep in mind he's not done yet but I believe he's a hof

[@sendmedics]

Thank you, Rich.

[@douglassgarvey653]

"How many all pros and pro bowl seasons can you make and moments can you make when you're playing for a Lions team that's just crap" Barry Sanders: 6x 1st team all pros, 4x 2nd team all pros, 1 MVP, 10x pro bowl. Megatron: 3x 1st team all pros, 1x 2nd team all pro, 6x pro bowl. Not a good argument Rich 😂

[@doctorfresh3856]

STAFFORD IS NOT A HALL OF FAMER! Stop it.

[@marvinbabbie2127]

Richard Sherman was never a top corner back ever was only a product of a system. He only dreams he can have the career Matt Stafford has put together

[@MarkGardner66Bonnie]

I am a Detroit native and a life long Lions fan, even though if you look in Wikipedia under pathetic sports team and the Detroit Lions will show up...I LOVE Matthew Stafford and say "Good for you Sir"... I only hope he can shut up people like Mr. Sherman who never played in the NFL's sorriest team... Thank you Rich!

[@iphone8046]

It’s somewhat ironic that the Rams offensively became the Lions offensively by the 2nd half of the Super Bowl. No running game and down to one receiver Cooper Kupp (Calvin Johnson). Luckily, Stafford was in familiar territory and did what he had to do to win it all. Yeah! Go Rams…

[@bobphillips1027]

If Brady or Sheman was drafted by Detroit nobody would know their names. They would be retired or trade along time ago. It's a team sport. Lions organization has been trash for 60 plus years it'll never change.

[@jeffluck9074]

That’s a great point Rich. Great point!

[@Hothiboi]

Sherman a hater lol

[@corneliusjones1980]

Thank you Rich!!!!!💯

[@stevenancel9324]

Imagine if he had rams and mcvay for the whole time

[@TDH959]

The Hall of Fame doesn’t work with hypotheticals

[@Elusivve]

I’m a rams fans, stop acting like McVay is a offensive genius

[@inst4rmin.x4_onYT]

@@Elusivve he kinda is at least to some degree, he made Goff look like an actually competent NFL QB 😜😅

[@damionhunter314]

Imagination does not work in football. What if Brady were with the Lions. What if Rodgers played for New England. Blah blah blah.

[@jca9417]

@@inst4rmin.x4_onYT exactly and I'm a REAL Rams fan , and Sean mcvay was able to take Jared GOOF to the Superbowl lol

[@blackanimelover18]

I mean, you can't really use Detroit as an excuse because Megatron got 4 all pros while playing for them and Barry Sanders had 10 all pros. If you're great, you're great, doesn't matter what organization you play for. And Stafford played with some talent, he could have done way more in Detroit if he were truly a hall of fame level QB.

[@allforgreatness9883]

Who threw megatron the ball?

[@rikmang]

Aaron Rodgers: 55,360 449 93 104.5 Matt Stafford:49,995 323 161 91.1 Rodgers is a sure hall a famer in many eyes,yet Stafford's numbers aren't far off from his. And Stafford played 12 years with a bad team

[@AriaTheGoat]

Richard Sherman is not one to talk tbh😂😂

[@mogarcia9755]

Eisen was really trying to say with that opening remark it’s a black thing for Sherman he’s being politically correct, Sherman is butt hurt cause after he left a team for another team but didn’t play well like Stafford has

[@mongoosemcmongoose2786]

Agree 100% pro bowl number argument is asinine Josh Allen didn’t make the pro bowl this season, neither did either Bills safety. That’s all I need to know about using the pro bowl argument.

[@wyietwares2823]

You put Brady,Rogers,Manning. In the place of Stafford. None of them would have a super bowl with the mighty Loins

[@brucebruce7065]

Maybe not but they would still be greater than Stafford. He doesn't belong in the HoF

[@allforgreatness9883]

@@brucebruce7065 dude stop hating lol you must be a bucs fan Stafford beat shermans team twice and he is salty

[@brucebruce7065]

@@allforgreatness9883 Quit assuming you know anything about me because you are wrong, just like you believing he is a HoF

[@allforgreatness9883]

@@brucebruce7065 he will be stay salty

[@brucebruce7065]

@@allforgreatness9883 Most likely but definitely not "salty" because I took a shower this morning 😆 and he still average to me so it is what it is

[@nealfeldpausch715]

Of course he's a HOF... There are many players in , that didn't win a SB. Some only had 5 year careers... Stafford is a warrior.

[@javiertrujillo2620]

The hell with all the haters...we're SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS BABY....HORNS UP!!!!

[@JohnnyTsoonami]

I like this guy.

[@OneDollarWilliam]

First Round All Pro?! Matthew Stafford shouldn't go into the HOF because he hasn't won the football equivalent of a Golden Globe?! The AP aren't some mystic sages they're just sports reporters! If you want to tell me that the recognition of one's peers is important for a Hall of Famer, I'm willing to accept Pro Bowl selection as essential, but the AP1? That's a bad joke.

[@chevy4x466]

Anybody ever see what megatron did before stafford. It wasn’t anything to write home about.

[@omgDavidGlasper]

One Pro Bowl but Andy Dalton has 3 lol. Stafford should have had 6-7 Pro Bowls! The most 4thQ/OT comeback wins since he came in the league in 2009. They dont remember a few years ago Stafford played the whole year with broken bones in his back. he played with a broken finger, separated shoulder...etc. He is tougher than any QB!

[@revilloteoj1934]

No all pro, no all decade, no MVP, no super bowl MVP. You guys keep saying pro bowls are meaningless, so you can say him going to however many would help his case. He still lacking because of what I mentioned first.

[@TheLowlifeXssassin]

Stafford is a great QB but not HOF. That should be reserved for the all time greats of a decade or generation, not someone who goes to a superteam and wins a superbowl off ref ball for christ sake. This is the same offense that made Jared Goff look good and took him to the playoffs without OBJ. By this standard Joe Flacco and Nick Foles should be HOF.