Rich Eisen on How/If the College Football Playoff Can Fix Its Blowout Games Problem

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@jahnvantuttlesma8215
@jahnvantuttlesma8215 2 күн бұрын
We got three good quarterfinal games (1 classic) with only one blowout (which happened to be the most anticipated game). There isn't a crisis like many are suggesting.
@RobertLopez-yx3co
@RobertLopez-yx3co 2 күн бұрын
One classic? I assume you're referring to the UT-ASU game. From the punt return TD until the 4th quarter, that game was garbage. So there have been ZERO classics.
@adamredden2007
@adamredden2007 2 күн бұрын
​@RobertLopez-yx3co WTF do you want? Games are played, and they happen how they happen. Jfc
@Johnrl21
@Johnrl21 Күн бұрын
We have had one decent game. The rest have been subpar at best.
@Elite67ty
@Elite67ty Күн бұрын
What games did you watch?
@Johnrl21
@Johnrl21 Күн бұрын
@@Elite67ty ASU/ Texas ended up being the only good game. The rest haven’t been very good.
@BigTimeGG
@BigTimeGG 2 күн бұрын
Hasn't college football always been filled to the brim with blowout games? The problem is the talent gap between teams, it's not an even playing field.
@ShimmyD-u7g
@ShimmyD-u7g 2 күн бұрын
Exactly, massive talent gaps. College football has always been about the few haves and the lots of have nots. It's why we see Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Ohio State, etc every year in the top. It's not the NFL with a draft and a salary cap. Instead its pure capitalism, and even more so with the recent uncontrolled free agency that is the NIL and transfer portal. I'm glad they have a playoff, maybe we will see a Cinderella story of some smaller school go the distance. Probably not, but now at least there is a path.
@DawgPoundStoner1252
@DawgPoundStoner1252 2 күн бұрын
Explain the talent gap between Ohio State and Oregon or Tennessee I'll wait
@AdamsGoingGhost
@AdamsGoingGhost 2 күн бұрын
Yeah no not at this point. If Alabama is playing Tennessee tech in week 4 you’d expect a blowout, but you don’t expect OSU to put up a 34 point lead in under 20 minutes against 13-0 Oregon. Especially in a bowl game.
@ld4974
@ld4974 2 күн бұрын
@@DawgPoundStoner1252 That's exactly why the 4 team playoff was sufficient. Expansion just leads to the big dogs blowing out the other teams.
@anthony.spencer
@anthony.spencer 2 күн бұрын
tough to have lots of similar caliber teams with rosters that can essentially be as big as the teams want.
@GENOTALKSCOMICS
@GENOTALKSCOMICS 2 күн бұрын
There are two points that often get lost in this conversation: 1. The match-ups matter. You can have rankings, seeding, win-loss records, conference championships, bye weeks, etc. But sometimes you go into a game where none of those metrics tell the story of 1v1 player match-ups on the field, offensive vs defensive units and each team as a whole. 2. Sometimes, it just isn't your day. Just as Dan Lanning said after they lost. College football coaches, players, fans and media know that well.
@kyledabearsfan
@kyledabearsfan Күн бұрын
rankings are part of the problem, we shouldnt have a system that gives a pre-season ranking that weighs as heavy as it does. But, regardless. This season isnt really different, people just crying more.
@TyForReal5
@TyForReal5 Күн бұрын
I agree on those points. The one about the bye week is absolutely a valid complaint, though. You should get a competitive advantage if you finish 1-4. These teams currently get the benefit of playing a hot team while they sit for 25 days. That is actually criminal and is a reason all 4 bye teams got beat. Seed 1-12 off the CFP final rankings for better matchups and actually reward 1-4 by having home games in the 2nd round with a shorter rest period.
@GENOTALKSCOMICS
@GENOTALKSCOMICS Күн бұрын
@@kyledabearsfan I agree about the rankings. I like individuals making their own rankings preseason or early on. It's great for conversation and coverage and to see different people's reasoning. But there shouldn't be any official ranking for at least a month into the season.
@kyledabearsfan
@kyledabearsfan Күн бұрын
@@GENOTALKSCOMICS oh, i dont disagree about the crowd draw, i think it weighs far too heavy on the season. How often do we see teams in the top 10 at the beginning of the season completley drop out. I agree, at minimum it should wait til after the first week after we at least have some (admittedly) arbitrary details.
@GENOTALKSCOMICS
@GENOTALKSCOMICS Күн бұрын
@TyForReal5 Even as a Buckeye guy, I think Oregon got screwed by the design. So I'd have no problem with re-seeding. And I like having playoff games on campus. Great for the schools, fans and the sport overall. The one piece I'm brainstorming is how does the bowl game system get reworked to gel with having home games. You could remove the bowl games from the playoff system entirely. Then the concern becomes having less than stellar match-ups in once top tier bowls. A lot of people are agreeing on the Rose Bowl being a great site. Could make that the national championship game.
@gregjross852
@gregjross852 2 күн бұрын
If the 12 team didn’t exist we wouldn’t have gotten Texas vs ASU. Media making things a big deal that aren’t.
@kyledabearsfan
@kyledabearsfan Күн бұрын
yeah just fan bases crying because they didnt have a good year, nothing has changed
@RandomYNG
@RandomYNG Күн бұрын
This year is exactly why the sport needed an expanded playoff. Without it, the best team in college football wouldn't have made the playoffs. A 4 team playoff is too subjective
@benclemens5311
@benclemens5311 2 сағат бұрын
Penn State and Texas were both ranked in the top four though, so yeah they would have made it with a four team playoff, just sayin’. I do agree with you, I like the expanded playoffs better (I think they should have capped it at 8 though).
@yomamasofat77
@yomamasofat77 Сағат бұрын
^ The best team right now is Ohio State, not Penn State or Texas
@Tommy9834
@Tommy9834 2 күн бұрын
I don't see what the issue is. Blowouts happen in a sport. The only way to prevent a blowout is to have fixed matches.
@broadnerdmike6450
@broadnerdmike6450 2 күн бұрын
Absolutely. Plus this is some BS bias against smaller schools. If the big schools got blown out they wouldn’t be asking all these questions.
@aswerty911
@aswerty911 Күн бұрын
Yep. If they want less blowouts, ok, the underdog gets to play at home. THen they'll cry that's not fair!! But the better team plays at home and smashes the underdog, well something's wrong!!! LOL
@julianwatts9024
@julianwatts9024 2 күн бұрын
Why do we act like blowouts are indicative of anything other than one team played way better that day. The nfl has blow outs in the championship games and Super Bowl all the time
@Je-Razor
@Je-Razor Күн бұрын
Exactly. The only solution to fix potential blowout games would be to not have a playoff at all and no National Championship game.
@CompetitionSportsNetwork
@CompetitionSportsNetwork Күн бұрын
100% correct, but guys like Rich, need to create drama so they can have topics to talk about while the rest of us sit here going "ok Rich"
@bradytom5468
@bradytom5468 Күн бұрын
All the time in the last 2 decades??? Only Carolina v. Denver comes up.... are u still living in the 80s or 90s???
@toddcunningham3213
@toddcunningham3213 Күн бұрын
​@@bradytom5468 2021: TB 31 KC 9 2014: Sea 43 Den 8 2010: NO 31 Ind 17 2003: TB 48 Oak 21 2001: Bal 34 NYG 7 I don't necessarily consider 14 points a "blowout", but you mentioned Carolina Denver which was also only 14 points. 24-10.
@Lonely.Chrome
@Lonely.Chrome Күн бұрын
@@toddcunningham3213blowouts to me are really when games are out of 2 possessions. So essentially 17+ leads are blowouts but then again you have to go and look at when that team when up 17+ bc that doesn’t mean the whole time the game was out of reach
@sladebygaming
@sladebygaming 2 күн бұрын
This year is still better than anything we've seen in the past and has a ton of room for improvement. I think the biggest area of improvement is the regular season. I think the lopsided games are a result of how little is determined from teams mainly playing in meaningless games all season. Most weeks there are 1-3 games featuring 2 ranked teams.
@chadturner7653
@chadturner7653 2 күн бұрын
I think this season was one of the best seasons across the entire nation in every conference I have seen. Every team from about 1-8 in each major conference had a real chance to win each week. And a lot did. I like seeing that much talent and coaching come into the game.
@sladebygaming
@sladebygaming 2 күн бұрын
@chadturner7653 Too many teams filling out the schedule against weak opponents still and seemingly those weak schedules increased chances to get into the playoffs.
@kyletucker3811
@kyletucker3811 2 күн бұрын
Dont have teams wait a month to play, dont force your TOP 4 SEEDS to play neutral sight games while others get to have home games for having worse records, and dont artificially boost the seeding of teams so the team that worked the hardest to have the best record has to face one of the best teams in the tournament in its first game after a month off.
@johaw105
@johaw105 2 күн бұрын
Corporate America has to ruin everything as much it possibly can
@beckayshaw6083
@beckayshaw6083 Күн бұрын
You’re right. Get rid of the extra time when they could be playing. Also top 4 teams should get a home playoff game. Only semi final games and natty should be neutral site
@markosekulic119
@markosekulic119 Күн бұрын
Isnt bye week better then playing home? I really dont understand why is problem in college bowl but not in nfl?
@beckayshaw6083
@beckayshaw6083 Күн бұрын
@ all 4 of the bye week teams lost to the 4 teams seeded lower than them who got to play a home game the week prior
@markosekulic119
@markosekulic119 Күн бұрын
@@beckayshaw6083 that happened this season. You need way bigger sample size for any comparation .
@1971kona
@1971kona 2 күн бұрын
In The last 6 years, national championship games have ALL been blowouts. The closest game was 33-18 back in 2022.
@outta_the_blue
@outta_the_blue Күн бұрын
The goal of the playoff isn’t to have close games. While it’d be nice, the goal is to find ONE deserving winner
@xiaxi
@xiaxi Күн бұрын
Nah. The goal of the playoff has and always will be to make the most $$$ possible for the committee.
@chs_ambs8356
@chs_ambs8356 2 күн бұрын
Yeah. That was total hypocrisy not letting Florida State in last year, then turning around and giving Georgia no. 2 this year.
@robert2k9
@robert2k9 Күн бұрын
Lol it was 12 teams in the field unlike 4 teams from years past. Arguing this point is ridiculous
@samplautz5586
@samplautz5586 18 сағат бұрын
Not really. Florida state proved that they weren’t ready when Georgia beat the crap out of them
@Mmmmmk247
@Mmmmmk247 9 сағат бұрын
Georgia beat Texas after losing their QB, a much harder opponent than Louisville, however I agree because consistency matters
@robert2k9
@robert2k9 8 сағат бұрын
@ The criteria changed. Auto-bids for conference champions were a result of that change. Consistency has nothing to do with these two different situations folks keep trying to compare.
@SurferRC
@SurferRC 2 сағат бұрын
@@samplautz5586😂🤡you clearly dont understand the sport 😂
@knutearmstrong5252
@knutearmstrong5252 2 күн бұрын
The old playoffs and new years six were full of blow outs. The point of the expanded playoff is it will help level a recruiting gap and make more competitive games in future years
@Pcbdude82
@Pcbdude82 2 күн бұрын
Glad to see some people here have brain cells. You'll always going to have blow outs. But thus system needs time to cook. And it's already working. Because 2 of the 4 teams left, were out of the 4 team system. And frankly Texas should have been out of refs did their job.
@mosart7025
@mosart7025 Күн бұрын
Will it level it if the smaller schools don't have the money/visibility that the big schools have? And what's to keep a guy that you pay a million at your school if another school offers him 2 million?
@Johnnyhamcheck1
@Johnnyhamcheck1 Күн бұрын
@@mosart7025those smaller teams wouldn’t have competed in the past either.
@grobble8954
@grobble8954 Күн бұрын
THE CFP expansion has nothing to do with closing recruiting gaps, it's about money. Other levels of fball have has a playoff for 40 years. FBS schools only wanted it when they were shown they can make more money than standard bowls. FYI. the gap is most likely going to get wider b/c of NIL directly from schools under the new rules coming and the NIL collectives are suing to make sure they have no regulation. NIL collectives(booster groups) are just going to pay kids whatever to come to their school. If a kid goes to G5 or a not so high profile power conference school, and say they have a good freshmen year, they will be paid to transfer to the big schools with deep pockets and massive NIL collectives.
@yomamasofat77
@yomamasofat77 Сағат бұрын
@mosart 5 star recruits aren't going to sit on the bench at Alabama. They are going to go to another school so they can play. Smaller schools will benefit.
@danielrutstein2316
@danielrutstein2316 2 күн бұрын
Funny the new format would’ve been amazing if conference realignments never happened
@ChosenPlaysYT
@ChosenPlaysYT Күн бұрын
We’ve seen national champion games that are 30+ blowouts. NFL playoff games are 20+ points all the time. March Madness has 30+ blowouts every year. People are way overreacting to this year’s CFP.
@Foggydidwhat
@Foggydidwhat Күн бұрын
The difference is that with the 12 team playoff format, the 5-6 teams that can actually win the natty from the preseason knowledge dwindle down to whatever number of teams that can actually win the natty at the start of the post season. (Using this year for reference, the realistic preseason contenders were Oregon, Texas, Georgia, Ole Miss, Alabama, Ohio st, and ND. 2 of them missed the playoffs, which is fine. But now there was a 12 team playoff that (if someone only knew the teams in the playoff and did not know how easy some paths were), only had 4-5 realistic teams that could string multiple quality wins together to win it all (Oregon, Texas, Georgia, Ohio st, and ND). Now with 4 teams left, 3 of the preseason/postseason realistic contenders are left, with the final spot attained to a Penn St team that got to play 2 G5 teams in SMU and Boise st to get to the semis (if given the Penn st playoff path, it is highly likely that 75% if not all 4 teams in the eliminated teams from the other bracket half consisting of Oregon/tenn/asu/georgia would have resulted in a semifinal birth (not to take credit away from psu for handling business against way lesser competition)). I agree that people are overreacting to blowouts. Since 2000, the 68 team playoff format for college basketball and the BCS/4 team playoff format for college football have resulted in the same amount of different schools winning the national championship. More playoff games does not mean the lesser teams actually have a chance of winning the national championship, it simply increases the chance for upset early on.
@michaelknapp8961
@michaelknapp8961 2 күн бұрын
I’m an Oregon ducks fan and I think the lag time before games is way too long. The last time Oregon played in a game before OSU was December 7th. January first is almost 3 and a half weeks later. That’s too long of a wait. The committee has to make some changes with that.
@scottwerner279
@scottwerner279 2 күн бұрын
Dude, byes are statistically good for well coached teams. Was ASU rusty? Or did the Bye week help a well coached team game plan for a really talented Texas?
@a.p.5906
@a.p.5906 2 күн бұрын
Coaching and preparation is the key. Oregon's coaching and preparation was poor.
@silastodd2668
@silastodd2668 Күн бұрын
Ohio State played Tennessee 3 weeks after Michigan and looked great. Time off isn't the problem
@SOLEFULkinn
@SOLEFULkinn Күн бұрын
No excuses. It’s college also. Still have class to attend. Oregon got hit from start & froze up
@nileswillis7992
@nileswillis7992 Күн бұрын
Nah..rust or not, Ohio State was just better.
@collinsjon13
@collinsjon13 2 күн бұрын
"Who's going to look at Greg Sankey in the face and say 'Your team doesn't make it'...?" So you're admitting that the SEC has impartial influence over the selection process? Who woulda thunk it?
@casualarrogance
@casualarrogance 2 күн бұрын
Thought.
@SenorHomeslice
@SenorHomeslice 2 күн бұрын
@@casualarrogance Thinkeried
@roris5882
@roris5882 2 күн бұрын
No different then the SEC players who aren't allowed to be called for Targeting in the playoffs by the ESPN Playoff Review Officials.
@CompetitionSportsNetwork
@CompetitionSportsNetwork Күн бұрын
Follow the money, the SEC has plenty of it.
@careyfreeman5056
@careyfreeman5056 2 күн бұрын
Not just win a home game, but also pocket millions of dollars in revenue and exposure from said home game. I can't believe nobody brings this up. I'd feel cheated with a bye.
@thecommish1976
@thecommish1976 4 сағат бұрын
I really like this format. Love the first-round games on campus. It is almost better to host one of these first-round games from a financial standpoint as the school can rake in a lot more money in terms of concessions, hotels, restaurants, etc. Blowouts are going to happen, and people are going to be upset that their team is out of the 12, but it was good to see schools like SMU, Boise, Arizona State get a fair chance.
@t.k.1319
@t.k.1319 2 күн бұрын
All I know is Oregon shouldn’t have had to play OSU in the quarterfinals, and the top seeded teams should have had their Quarterfinal games at their home stadiums.
@markosekulic119
@markosekulic119 Күн бұрын
Its Ohio state fault that fell to 8place. Not Oregon. If Ohio state won against Michigan and even lost to Oregon they would be maybe 5,6 place on leader board.
@kyledabearsfan
@kyledabearsfan Күн бұрын
OSU lost thats why they were seeded low enough to play Oregon. Thats a good system. Oregon was just overranked.
@AntiMTVMovement
@AntiMTVMovement Күн бұрын
It’s nonsensical to think that we should go back to not having a playoff. The regular season was never a playoff, and it’s nonsensical to ever think it was.
@calicojack3628
@calicojack3628 Күн бұрын
Need to get the Bowl games out of the playoff. Playoffs should be in December and only the Championship game being a neutral site game. Oregon should have got a home playoff game.
@gsmegaphone
@gsmegaphone Күн бұрын
Yeah this whole thing is a non-issue. We fans wanted the 12 team expansion because there were kids that deserved a shot than were previously getting in with a 4 team system. They got that shot this year. Sure, THIS year wasn’t as competitive, but unless that same thing happens year in and year out going forward the next 4-5 years, there is no reason to change it right now.
@greenlantern7959
@greenlantern7959 2 күн бұрын
For a hundred years the “national champ” was ONE team that managed to win all their games. The only surprise so far is Oregon, and they lost to the OVERALL favorite up until the last week of the season. 4-team format, and UGA’s losses and having a backup QB might have left them out under the FSU rule. It’s Oregon, Notre Dame, Ohio State, and then an argument. You’re getting EXACTLY what everyone wanted. Unless you’re the SEC in a down year.
@Daniel_Robinson
@Daniel_Robinson Күн бұрын
Respectfully I think everyone is misunderstanding the “FSU” rule. The reason they were left out wasn’t because their qb got injured, it’s because they looked completely lifeless after that. For example, say I left out peanuts and you, allergic, eat them and die. It’s true I directly caused the end of your life, but it isn’t murder, because the real culprit was you eating them. If FSU looked even semi-good after the qb injury, they would have got in, but you can’t disagree they were clearly a much worse team. With Georgia, their qb went down, but they still looked great, so it’s a completely different situation. It’s why I get annoyed when commentators like in this video go “Georgia’s qb went down why aren’t they out?” It’s because they didn’t look like trash and a completely different team AFTER the qb went down. Now I do feel bad for FSU, as despite looking significantly worse they did win their games including the ACC champ, but if you watched that Louisville game you’d understand FSU was nowhere near a top 4 team in the nation
@markosekulic119
@markosekulic119 Күн бұрын
Buddy they played 2 games after loosing qb. Tell me what team has two great qb on their rooster ready set to go? No way would any good/top qb sit a year to be back up. ​@@Daniel_Robinson
@ChristopherMcCloud-y4x
@ChristopherMcCloud-y4x Күн бұрын
@@Daniel_Robinsonthis is crap, FSU had a dominant defense, and proved it was deserving by winning its conference championship. Look at what Verse is doing in the NFL this year. Von Miller once shut down a MVP Cam Newton in the Superbowl. FSU should’ve been in the playoffs last year and these SEC teams that were supposed to be sooooo great, have turned out to be mediocre. FSU was screwed and I hate FSU but can still admit they were screwed.
@keaganmusic
@keaganmusic Күн бұрын
Top 4 RANKED teams get a BYE and get a home campus game in the QF. Campus games in the First Round and QF (which would be awesome).
@alwaysplaythegame
@alwaysplaythegame Күн бұрын
Just make the field 16 teams please. Solves most of these issues and gives us more football.
@kyledabearsfan
@kyledabearsfan Күн бұрын
no it doesnt lol 12 is good enough, there already arent 12 teams that are good enough to be the champion. 16 just becomes stupid.
@matthewklug9061
@matthewklug9061 8 сағат бұрын
What we forget is that these are very young men playing. Any break with a bye can make a team rusty. Should have been an 8 team playoff no byes
@TeezyHadaBaby
@TeezyHadaBaby Күн бұрын
I mean not all games across all sports are competitive. We’ve literally seen teams get blown out in superbowls, swept in the finals and eliminated by lesser teams during March madness.
@Skyvernius
@Skyvernius Күн бұрын
if you want to fully fix the issue of the CFP you'd first have to get all the teams aligned into 4 or 8 conferences that each play the same amount of regular season games leading into a conference championship. That's where the NCAA and CFP selection committee needs to start if they want to minimize blowout games. Otherwise the four major bowls should be for the first four playoff games and if the bowl committee doesn't like it then they can pound sand and not be included in the playoffs at all. The second round should be bye teams home game. Third round the highest seed remaining gets home game. Championship predetermined neutral site.
@bigbadjohn7053
@bigbadjohn7053 Күн бұрын
Reseed the 2nd round based on pre playoff ranking. If that were done this year, Oregon vs Arizona St, Georgia vs Boise St, Penn St vs ND, and Texas vs Ohio St. You can even the top 4 conference champs a bye week, but seed them appropriately.
@BiggieTrismegistus
@BiggieTrismegistus Күн бұрын
I think the top 4 conference champions getting a bye but reseeding the second round based on the final playoff rankings is the way to go.
@alwaysplaythegame
@alwaysplaythegame Күн бұрын
Reseeding is fine, but you still have the problem of how those seeds are decided. You have Ohio State as a low seed but they were the #1 per Vegas (and probability of winning).
@fmfbrestel
@fmfbrestel 2 күн бұрын
No conference championship games. No byes, 16 teams. First round on higher seed's home field.
@alwaysplaythegame
@alwaysplaythegame Күн бұрын
This is the way!
@kwall337
@kwall337 Күн бұрын
I was just about to write this. Then for the 2nd round on, all the games would be played in bowl games. They would just have to add another bowl or 2 in the rotation with the existing ones.
@Lonely.Chrome
@Lonely.Chrome Күн бұрын
Can’t get rid of conference championship games lol might as well not have conferences at that point
@kyledabearsfan
@kyledabearsfan Күн бұрын
I think people are crying too much. "blowout" games happen. Its part of football. Even between 2 great teams, maybe one has a bad day. I think its a lot of crying for what weve seen every single year EVER. People need to stop whining.
@nathanstruble2177
@nathanstruble2177 18 сағат бұрын
Am I watching the same college football playoffs as everyone else? I feel like I'm not, cause I've seen exactly 1 blowout, meanwhile half of the games have been within 2 scores.
@jerryjones2818
@jerryjones2818 10 сағат бұрын
In the New College Football, with the transfer portal and NIL, comparing this year to last year is almost apples and oranges. Gollege teams no longer stay mostly the same for 2 or 3 year intervals, they can change overnight now. Let the new playoff system run for a few years , collect more data., before demanding changes. Ratings, of course, will determine what is :successful"
@asentientroomba8054
@asentientroomba8054 Күн бұрын
Simple format: 16 teams, no byes, top 5 conference champions plus 3 highest wild card teams host. Bring back the BCS (or some variation) for the rankings or go off the AP/coaches polls. Winning a conference should be valued (and will help create parity and avoid the tournament becoming the SEC invitational, which nobody living outside Alabama, Georgia, and Florida wants). Or conversely, make all the games neutral site and give automatic bids to all the conference champions, with seeding based on rankings.
@alfcmccoy
@alfcmccoy Күн бұрын
Even if it's not what we expected, no one really complains about the NFL playoff because of the way it is structured. If the powers that be(it would have be NCAA but they don't care anymore) should set a structure where everyone can't come up with their own excuses to justify why they didn't like the outcome of the games.
@pokeroots2
@pokeroots2 12 сағат бұрын
We had blowouts in the playoffs the last 3 years... This is just a talking point for sports media to say they shouldn't allow the lesser teams like Boise State into the playoffs. The playoffs were fine
@Alexwns33
@Alexwns33 2 күн бұрын
As an ASU fan the bye is a huge disadvantage. The first round winner played 10 days prior, meaning they are both rested and fresh. The bye didn't give us jordyn tyson back all it gave us was 30 days without a game. We got jumped on 17-3 then outplayed texas for the next 3 quarters. We couldn't execute in the red zone, Texas played great redzone d to be clear, but the timing just wasn't there
@maikotter9945
@maikotter9945 Күн бұрын
In the "bye weeks", the teams seeded 1to 4 in the playoffs, could have TEST GAMES, against those teams, not seeded 5 to 12 in the playoffs!
@sp33dygonzales1
@sp33dygonzales1 2 күн бұрын
The teams that get a bye should get home field advantage
@alexramage4840
@alexramage4840 6 сағат бұрын
Or at least let them pick their bowl game. Multiple Bowl trips is a lot of traveling to do. Penn St just played in Tempe, next in Miami, and if they win, they go to Atlanta.
@Alexdad84
@Alexdad84 15 сағат бұрын
Everyone keeps saying "bye week" when it was a bye month. The teams that won got a good scrimmage/game in and weren't rusty. A month is a long time. Just shorten the time.
@johnmcho
@johnmcho 2 күн бұрын
If you want the regular season to matter, reward conference champions with an advantage. It's not hard.
@roris5882
@roris5882 2 күн бұрын
So just give them a guaranteed playoff slot.
@kyledabearsfan
@kyledabearsfan Күн бұрын
a playoff spot and first round bye arent enough? what else should the conference champions get? Should we maim any opposition player too? maybe tell the opposing teams they cant run during the game? How many more advantages do the conference champions deserve? lol such a deluded take
@johnmcho
@johnmcho Күн бұрын
@kyledabearsfan Not more. Just keep it the same.
@okapi3202
@okapi3202 Күн бұрын
​@@kyledabearsfanI mean, having a home game for the quarterfinal seems fair for a conference champion. I think it's fair to reward a conference champion heavily.
@IntoTheSkyy
@IntoTheSkyy Күн бұрын
Say what you want, this year is still better than the 4 team playoff. I think they'll expand to 16 teams sooner rather than later. The schools who got byes must be looking at the insane money made by the schools that had home games, plus all 4 bye teams losing, and getting real grumpy about how things turned out.
@c_love224
@c_love224 Күн бұрын
Easy solution. Bring back the BCS rankings. Take the top 12 from the final ranking. Takes it out of the hands of the committee.
@ShiloStigen
@ShiloStigen Күн бұрын
The NCAA went way too slow making changes with NIL and playoff expansion, and the end result is this hyper-reaction the other way, and now it's a mess the other direction. If they would have allowed paid athletes decades ago, a lot of that would already be straightened out and not as insane. And if they would have expanded from 4 to 8 teams years ago, this year's playoff wouldn't have been so non-competitive. A top eight playoff last year would have been amazing!
@grobble8954
@grobble8954 Күн бұрын
Simple, seed properly. If you seeded 1 thru 12 with no regard for conference champs, then the match ups look way better. ...ie... you would have gotten a Boise/Indiana 1st round match up, etc...Conf championship should guarantee a spot only (like they do in NCAA bball), shouldn't be related to byes. Also, all the teams with byes lost. I mentioned this prior, not playing for 3 1/2 weeks is not good. All the bye teams looked rusty. While playing a first round game you have a chance to lose, you don't get rusty sitting around for 3 to 3 1/2 weeks
@randomnerd2332
@randomnerd2332 19 сағат бұрын
People are acting like we don't see blowouts in every sport's playoffs. We've seen Super Bowls be blowouts, world series & NBA Finals be clean sweeps, why would college football be any different?
@Johnny.Demonic
@Johnny.Demonic Күн бұрын
When was the last time 1-8 made the second round of a 64 bracket? And are all those games 5 point games? What do you want? A 1 score game where the chalk team pulls out the miraculous victory for all 9 games?
@hazegraystudios
@hazegraystudios 20 сағат бұрын
This is by far the biggest improvement we've ever had in NCAA football. Can't we just enjoy it?
@swdierks
@swdierks Күн бұрын
If you have to have the 5 conference champions, then a minimum of 12 teams is inevitable - if you want bye weeks. Make it 8 without the bye week.
@DK412724
@DK412724 Күн бұрын
Football is unpredictable and fans love it. Who expected Army to win the AAC in their first year? Who thought Indiana would be a top 10 team? ASU was picked finish last in the Big 12 and won the conference, taking Texas to the wire. That's football and I wouldn't change a thing.
@Handletaken4
@Handletaken4 Күн бұрын
It's criminal that Conf Champions got better seeding than lame SEC teams and that southern teams had to play outside in weather on grass. We need to scrap the whole thing. Teams from the north beating up on SEC is just wrong. -Rich E
@kenyattaclay7666
@kenyattaclay7666 2 күн бұрын
A couple weeks ago Night Cap did a segment on how important a bye week is for the playoffs and I left a comment saying that this whole bye stuff is way overblown. I got so much pushback and was told I didn’t know what I was talking about. Well, I’ll say it again, this whole bye stuff is overblown mostly because there’s no definitive evidence that it helps or hurts teams. Some teams handle it well & use it to get healthy but with other teams they get rusty. To me it’s like the old adage about momentum in baseball, it’s the next days starting pitcher. What if next year all four teams that get a bye win, then the year after that they go 2-2. Maybe we should see how things play out for a few seasons before talking about failures & changes.
@pizzabatman2137
@pizzabatman2137 2 күн бұрын
One year is too small a sample, at least that’s what I think.
@nickh2935
@nickh2935 2 күн бұрын
Problem? What problem is there? Teams are getting exposed and it’s great.
@kyledabearsfan
@kyledabearsfan Күн бұрын
fr, but their fanbases cant take it. None of these scores are out of the ordinary, people just dont like the results. Conferences like the SEC have gotten so much favoritism for so long, people dont believe it when they arent getting sucked off
@jameskingsbery3644
@jameskingsbery3644 2 күн бұрын
There's no good way to do a college football playoff system without a deep overhaul of the system. College football still has the system of an amateur competition, while practically being a professional minor league.
@CamoJack-v9b
@CamoJack-v9b Күн бұрын
I think penn st should have come to Boise n played on the blue…. We went to the fiesta bowl. It’s an awesome venue…but these bowls games should be reserved for the final four
@johngetz8585
@johngetz8585 7 сағат бұрын
Sure...and Boise should go to State College, in a whiteout, and get mauled.
@jamesjuneau6445
@jamesjuneau6445 2 күн бұрын
Saying 7 of the 8 were blowouts shows you didnt watch them, boise vs penn state and texas vs clemson were pretty close u cant just look at the final score
@sirpihbalot
@sirpihbalot Күн бұрын
New years day should be the national championship game...playoff teams don't need to get a one month break. The NFL can work their schedule around all of it
@masterflex2349
@masterflex2349 2 күн бұрын
First and second round home games then the final four and championship bowl games
@camicawber
@camicawber 2 күн бұрын
This is a much better idea that moving the New Year's bowl games up to before Christmas. It might require the playoff to start a week earlier, but that feels like a much better idea than moving the New Year's Day bowl games to December 20.
@michaelreilly7106
@michaelreilly7106 Күн бұрын
To make it short, Rich Eisen was not entertained. ‘Are you not entertained?!!’
@bwcbiz
@bwcbiz Күн бұрын
Before you change anything you have to decide: Is the problem the format of the playoff or that the bye teams were overrated?
@ericdean1309
@ericdean1309 9 сағат бұрын
Blowouts are part of the game. Nothing fixes that at all they will happen.
@andrew.van5
@andrew.van5 2 күн бұрын
The five conference champions SHOULD get an automatic bid BUT NOT a bye. Then (this might be controversial), I think reseeding after round 1 would be an interesting idea. That way it rewards the teams that are ranked #1 or even #2 more. For example, Oregon would've played the lowest ranked remaining team (idk who that would've been) but it rewards them for their season and they don't get screwed with bad matchups. Just an idea...
@tidmarshXC
@tidmarshXC 2 күн бұрын
Would've been: Arizona State-Oregon Boise State-Georgia Ohio State-Texas Notre Dame-Penn State
@mikdavfle
@mikdavfle 2 күн бұрын
Arizona State alum here just to declare my bias in advance. I agree with all of that, but I would give the conference champs a guaranteed top 8 seed, meaning they either get a bowl game or a home game. Also, I suspect this will be a 16 team playoff soon because of what we saw in the first round games and Del Tufo's idea of making the 1st round games bowl games will never be accepted unless every game in a bowl game.
@Pcbdude82
@Pcbdude82 2 күн бұрын
For starters. The teams on a bye already got rewarded. They had to play one less game. Amd 2nd. Oregon played the highest remaining seed. Which was Ohio State. So even if you did reseed. Oregon vs Ohio State would have been the match up. Ohio State was seeded where they were because they lost to Michigan. Yeah it kinda sucks Oregon got the short end of the stick. Ohio State took the time to fix the problem. But if Oregon wants to win the national championship. Guess what? They were going to face Ohio State anyways. Whether it was q finals, Semi finals or the championship.
@Pcbdude82
@Pcbdude82 2 күн бұрын
​@@tidmarshXCArizona state was on a bye. So no they wouldn't have matched up with Oregon
@andrew.van5
@andrew.van5 2 күн бұрын
@Pcbdude82 Your first point is valid. I don't think I made my idea very clear which is on me, but in this fake scenario (taking the top 5 conference champs and NOT giving them a bye) and then reseeding after the first round would've probably put Oregon vs Boise or Arizona State because they wouldn't have been a top 4 seed (in my scenario). And with the reseeding, there could be instances where a team is the so-called 8 seed but for the next round could be the 6 seed based on other matchups and who is remaining. Idk if that made any sense but that's the idea (it definitely would need more clear guidelines).
@cambodennis
@cambodennis Күн бұрын
It’s not fair to fans that they would have to go to 3-4 road games to support their team. We need more home games.
@wyattboyer5780
@wyattboyer5780 2 күн бұрын
Teams like Boise State and Arizona State don't want the bye. They would prefer a first-round game on national tv they can reliably win. Better exposure means donors and recruits.
@MarkLillvis
@MarkLillvis Күн бұрын
You just made a great argument that the current system worked
@henryapfelbach1845
@henryapfelbach1845 Күн бұрын
As far as more home games on campus goes, if you build it they will come!
@brians23
@brians23 2 күн бұрын
Ohio State had a home and home scheduled with Oregon, I believe the game at Oregon was originally scheduled for 2020 and this was a makeup for that turned conference game
@clumsysmurf8109
@clumsysmurf8109 9 сағат бұрын
Maybe give the format a few goes before we judge it. In any given year things can be weird. Save this discussion for the overreaction segments
@jreeves1666
@jreeves1666 Күн бұрын
All these people through the years wanting a playoff. They make one and all I hear is complaints. Every suggestion to improve it is well what about this and what about that. It’s the first year and improvements will be made. This will take time but no matter what there will always be a team left out or the matchups are not great.
@eddiebellamy7605
@eddiebellamy7605 22 сағат бұрын
Rich: “We need to do away with(what Warde Manuel said) seeding the teams and letting the chips fall” Hard disagree. Let the teams figure it out on the field. This isn’t the Hunger Games, Politics back in the day or WWE where people in smoke filled backrooms pulled the strings and placed teams in the playoffs for the best ratings
@VRKyurem
@VRKyurem Күн бұрын
Look up the old bcs bowl berth rules. They basically kept the integrity of that format. And I don’t mind
@AhOhITzXray
@AhOhITzXray Күн бұрын
Blow outs happen even if teams are evenly matched, college football is 75% momentum based results.
@dontayewhittaker5687
@dontayewhittaker5687 11 сағат бұрын
There is no fixing blowout games because they are too unpredictable.
@dennisgannon
@dennisgannon Күн бұрын
24 days off is too long for most teams, it wasn't just "a week" off. The seeding in March Madness is better than the current College Football seeding. Top seeds should play the lowest seeds. The long postponement is stupid, they should have the playoffs sooner.
@joePARKS
@joePARKS Күн бұрын
I still prefer the 12 team playoff - i believe somebody (in the future) from a lower seed will make final four and possibly win it all
@trdgrs
@trdgrs Күн бұрын
This talk of the bye week "meaning nothing" is so asinine it is crazy. Did anyone really think Boise State was gonna win? Arizona state took Texas to OT. Pre game betting lines were fairly even with Ohio State and Oregon, so not like either winning would have been a shocker. Talk about taking away the wrong message from these outcomes.
@hunter24seven
@hunter24seven Күн бұрын
Games were mostly blowouts before the 12 team playoffs. The BCS and prior had plenty of blowouts
@ChristopherMcCloud-y4x
@ChristopherMcCloud-y4x Күн бұрын
The SEC is totally overrated. For 2 years in a row it has been gospel that the SEC is the best coming from the media, turns out that they are no better than any other conference.
@varunb2593
@varunb2593 Күн бұрын
It blows my mind that in 2024 we’re still using a “committee” - that makes no sense. Define the parameters and let a computer do the math and spit out the rankings like every other league in the world.
@riddikk187
@riddikk187 2 күн бұрын
It doesn't matter what happens because people will still bitch about some undeserving SEC team not getting in.
@mrQueven13
@mrQueven13 3 сағат бұрын
Let’s just fix the games and choose the winner before the games start then 🙄
@nathanaelboyd2017
@nathanaelboyd2017 Күн бұрын
The 12 team playoff worked how it was designed to. The teams with bye weeks just weren’t as good as the teams without it
@alexgruel9932
@alexgruel9932 2 күн бұрын
The 1 and 2 seeds (Big 10 and SEC champs) get stomped. Clearly this is Boise States fault, somehow.
@ReallyUnderstandEnglish
@ReallyUnderstandEnglish Күн бұрын
Is he really arguing that having a first round home game is more advantageous than skipping the first round altogether?🤨
@johncrane3493
@johncrane3493 Күн бұрын
It should only be 8 teams and no byes. #9-12 really don’t have a realistic chance to win three games against tougher opponents.
@SonofStormblessed
@SonofStormblessed Күн бұрын
Blowouts are part of the game, always have been, always will be. There will be years with more close games. The overreaction after 1 year, that isn’t even done yet, is pretty stupid. Tweet it here or there to make it better, sure, but stop acting like it’s a failure because some teams are better than others.
@alanmartin6436
@alanmartin6436 2 күн бұрын
A bye means you can't lose in that round.
@rowbehr8
@rowbehr8 Күн бұрын
This crap of blowouts needs to stop! Blowouts happen in the NFL playoffs as well. Sounds to me like excuses from different fanbase upset their teams were eliminated.
@FruityWalnut
@FruityWalnut Күн бұрын
This is stupid, NFL has blowouts in playoffs and nobody demands changes
@DennyJr22
@DennyJr22 2 күн бұрын
The bye isn't that big of an advantage. First round teams all received between 10 and 13 days of rest after their first game instead of the standard 7. That's plenty of time to recover and prepare for an opponent. I understand trying to keep big games around the historically big game New Year's Day and Christmas being exactly a week earlier making timing difficult, but making the time between games closer to a week would give bye teams a bigger advantage.
@johnkerry6312
@johnkerry6312 Күн бұрын
The first year you can go 10-2, lose a late game, not win a conference and make a 'ship run
@charliemirus4124
@charliemirus4124 7 сағат бұрын
Just like the NFL, and people wanting to change that playoff with the Lions/Vikings situation this year, there’s no need to change anything. Reward champions. If you’re going to do anything, give the conference champions the chance to waive the buy. If you’re going to change anything, and you give give the top 4 seeds (regardless of conference, etc.), you need to make sure any other conference champs AT LEAST get a home game round one.
@BrandonH321
@BrandonH321 Күн бұрын
Treat it like basketball. Top 5 conference champs are guaranteed a spot, but their seeding is based on talent.
@We-need-Abe
@We-need-Abe Күн бұрын
Of course Georgia makes it. And did you pick ND to beat the bulldogs. And are you suggesting that if this was a 4 team bracket, the top 4 would be different? That seems sketchy.
@brians23
@brians23 2 күн бұрын
There were blowouts with 4 teams. Fact is some years there are only 1-2 worthy teams. Throwing more teams would make it even worse.
@josephcernansky1794
@josephcernansky1794 2 күн бұрын
2016...Big 10 Champ Penn State that beat anOSU in regular season gets excluded by "Committee" because, "We think anOSu is better, even though Penn State BEAT them on the field." First Round....Clemson 31....anOSU (the "better team") - ZERO!!!
@roris5882
@roris5882 2 күн бұрын
​@@josephcernansky1794 Penn State had 2 regular season losses and Ohio State only had 1. But Penn State was the better team that season.
@aidenrogatz8071
@aidenrogatz8071 Күн бұрын
Georgia had three losses how would they be in…
@Outlaw8908
@Outlaw8908 Күн бұрын
Unfortunately it has a companion problem. NIL and the portal have been allowed to create an actual problem. There needs to be new rules that limit tampering, transfers, when transfers happen, a cap on eligibility, and getting exposure to smaller schools so they can compete with the bigger schools. As for seeding problems, bringing back conference divisions, winning the conference, and of course breaking up Super conferences.
@theoriginalpizzalicious
@theoriginalpizzalicious Күн бұрын
the decision making in CF is fucked up, no matter what
@KleyDeJong
@KleyDeJong Күн бұрын
Blowouts in the first round is not a problem. The 1 seed usually blows out the 16 seed in MM. Whoever wins the natty earns it by winning games. Good system.
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