Dan Patrick Has No Respect For College Football Playoff Revisionist History |

[@huntersyverson1780]

I agree completely with Dan’s point. Don’t say a team shouldn’t have been in the CFP after they get blown out. Have the guts to say it before the game.

[@volusiasorange]

and still be wrong if you say it before the game

[@kevinvilmont6061]

Not to mention that it’s just how it worked out, on a given day the chips could’ve fallen differently, in fact, Indiana definitely belonged. They lost by 10 points. What are you talking about? Why would you say they didn’t belong because they lost by a touchdown in the field goal that is just absurd

[@nastee10]

Its not the fact that they all said IU and SMU don't belong. It's that they were all shilling for Bama and South Carolina. Then Bama lost to a mediocre team who had more opt outs, and now they are all silent. They were all convinced that Bama was head and shoulders above IU despite 2 horrible losses. At this point, there is no tangible evidence that definitively says that Bama is better than IU. It's all based on bias.

[@Vic-Vega]

Alabama is objectively better than Indiana.

[@pauliewalnuts2527]

theres evidence now indiana was better than georgia. 😂😂😂

[@snerdterguson]

The problem Alabama had was the games were actually played, and not just hypothetical. Because they're undefeated in hypothetical.games according to the SEC cult.

[@BootieScootRacingLLC]

As a Carolina resident and fan , we had the only argument if they were gonna use “arguments” as a way to prove a point , however SC didn’t deserve a spot

[@Iluvjudahmoscato]

Which oddly enough is what the playoffs is supposed to show us. Who is really the frauds and who are not. On the field is the only way to settle things

[@BigginsInAmerica]

The same people said Alabama should have been in the playoffs after the first round and Alabama lost to an unranked Michigan team in the meaningless bowl.

[@lordrayden3045]

And South Carolina

[@stevenbrozynski5555]

Indiana handled that same Michigan team, as did Illinois, who beat the other SEC "contender" South Carolina.

[@BigginsInAmerica]

@@stevenbrozynski5555 and Michigan beat OSU, while 3 of their 5 losses were to Texas, Oregon, and Indiana all playoff teams.

[@Vic-Vega]

Exactly, it was a meaningless bowl, so motivation levels were low.

[@mikewilliams9069]

@@Vic-Vegacstopid

[@BigDsportsfan92]

"Ask Vegas" is an INSANE take. Alabama was a double-digit favorite to Vanderbilt, Oklahoma, and Michigan -- all losses.

[@starscreamjesse2121]

That's how Vegas makes their money.

[@WdawgSmith]

No but it’s still the most objective way of determining it That’s the point he is making He’s not saying it’s perfect He’s saying that any other opinion is based on politics and emotion And the Vegas line is neither of those things Vegas has people who research the matchup Looks at injuries Gets inside information And then basically predicts the score using only that information So he’s absolutely correct about Vegas I think it’s ridiculous for other reasons But to argue that the Vegas line is the most objective way possible to know who is “better” is correct You mentioned 4 games they got wrong Guess what ? They make billions of dollars like it’s nothing They got a lot more right than they did wrong Picking a few games and saying “see it’s not true” is completely ridiculous The only way to truly take the emotion and politician out of the decision is to go with the betting line and use that to choose I hope they don’t But then again I’m not going crazy because a few games were blowouts Do you think the committee can see the future ? Of course not The same people who said SMU and Boise don’t belong also said Arizona state didn’t belong And the Boise game was fairly close The AZ state game was a classic And the smu game sucked I mean do you want them to get it perfect What then ? Every game goes to 14 overtime’s ? The outrage is just outrage because people enjoy being upset with something and they believe they are better at deciding things than others That’s all it is

[@SomeChink]

Yeah it’s idiotic Vegas is about making money, not who’s better It’s so silly to say that

[@JamesEvans2023]

Yeah that was the worst possible example he could have picked, But South Carolina also would have been terrible...

[@dan-ws2sf]

Yeah, let’s involve what’s traditionally the most corrupt organizations in the country outside of Washington and Hollywood, Vegas, run by the mob and thugs from the beginning. GOD bless America, let the Stars and Stripes wave on🤦‍♂️

[@dustinrhodes4793]

Awfully quiet in SEC land all of a sudden. Funny how a real playoff will do that

[@pmiller5649]

Funny how NIL will do that.

[@komisar3937]

So you think that the SEC will not return again with a vengeance? So that conference that has dominated for decades simply is done? Very short sighted. I'm ACC by the way.

[@dustinrhodes4793]

@@komisar3937 I think it's a lot harder to "dominate" when every conference gets a fair shot at a postseason

[@SP-td9xj]

Lol they have a team in the final 4😂😂

[@jab2505]

This bullshit got worse after they legalized sports betting.

[@dericnentrup5627]

So indiana loses to ND 27-17 They don't belong. Georgia loses to ND 23-10, but that's all good huh. Make it make sence

[@ryanolson2308]

Well it makes sense to those of us who actually watched the games and can look beyond the final score 🤦‍♂️ you in 3rd grade or something?

[@matthewharrison7153]

If you had actually watched that game you’d know Indiana was never even in it. Scoring 2 garbage time TD’s doesn’t mean they played them closer. Georgia was using a quarterback that had maybe 2 quarters worth of game time all year. What was Indiana’s excuse?

[@stevenbrozynski5555]

The SEC is the most overrated and over-hyped entity in the history of sporting competition.

[@JohnDoe-od7ye]

I hate the SEC but this year may just be a blip for them. And I’m only talking about Tennessee and Georgia. The bowl games are a completely useless metric with the portal/draft/“injuries” and coaching changes. Outside of the expanded playoff, the bowl games now carry the least amount of weight that they ever have in factoring in team/conference strength. Now that these conferences are gigantic they are completely useless in judging a team’s strength.

[@mikewilliams9069]

@@JohnDoe-od7yeno more dicksaban means no more cheating

[@TL-qr3ii]

@@JohnDoe-od7ye No, we only see that the SEC is nothing special because of the 12 team playoff. It's been like that every year, but ESPN has $$ interests to push SEC propaganda, and it has helped the SEC get in the four team playoff in the past. They tried it this year, but now they have egg on their faces.

[@JK2333459]

Funny the BSC worked until the SEC won 7 out of 8 Funny go too the 4 team playoff SEC dominates again just won 3 straight now it’s time to go too 12 teams BAMA die hard fan and BAMA didn’t deserve too there played like sh*t all year

[@Melodicroger]

The SEC has won over 70% of titles this century. It’s not overhyped, it’s just relying too much on recent history.

[@1Y6M-989]

Too easy to critic once you already know the results or everything. Playoff seeding may not be perfect, but cmon... people are stressing way too much about "having good games". Sometimes is just not your day and you get business handed to you. That's sports...

[@B1onicelbow420]

Agreed!!!

[@chrisoakley5830]

Exactly, Ohio State and Oregon wasn't a good game, but there's no way to predict that a game will turn out that way.

[@RR64434]

Especially in the first round when all the higher seeds played at home.

[@superprim12]

ASU was one call away from...

[@krl97a]

There should be no committee. Minimize the subjectivity.

[@michaelknapp8961]

Duck fan here. I’m hearing comments on social media that Oregon sucks and should never be in the playoff. That’s crazy!!!! They won 13 games this season.

[@marshalmagooo3899]

Agreed. Bad start = loss. You outscored OSU by 14 in the 2nd half. Just a poor time to play a bad game

[@fornana]

Nah Oregon was the best team all year. No idea what happened in the playoffs though. Interesting that every team that had a first round bye lost. Not sure if that means anything or not.

[@paulstraka7799]

The bye weeks hurt them. Too much time off.

[@bobdavidsonm.d.7214]

​@@paulstraka7799 Right! A team's that had byes, lost.🤔

[@73ocampo]

We beat OSU, BSU, PSU and Michigan regardless of their (Wolverines) record. How quick people forget. All these wins within are schedule. We won The Big 10 Championship, and our first 13-0 season in program history, I'm happy with that, we had a chance.

[@brianerisca6822]

Kirk Herbstreak is a clown

[@rexpope980]

I used to like Herby, but he has gone full SEC bias.

[@PatBrooks-u6w]

What do you expect from a guy who called his dog Ben Herbstreit?

[@rwrae72]

It also looks like he's had plastic surgery or is on medication. He looks monstrous.

[@STC987]

All these “experts” are laughable.

[@chrisoakley5830]

Studies show that most experts are not experts. 😂

[@bobvanderwest9358]

At some point teams that are heavy underdogs will win, which is thrilling to watch and will satisfy the true football fans collective desire to witness great drama.

[@jeromemaida4933]

We lose great teams.

[@bobvanderwest9358]

@@jeromemaida4933 Great teams lose, it's part of the thrill and enjoyment of watching sports.

[@OconByrd519]

That hardly ever happens in college football. Big reason why the NFL is king and always will be.

[@bobvanderwest9358]

@@OconByrd519 Rarity is one of the primary qualities of excellence.

[@tomchrisfield7348]

College football, money wise, might be better than the pros for some players. They get 5 years of eligibility, they could play for 5 different teams in 5 different years @ say $5 million per year, they'll make generational wealth without ever going to the league.

[@treysonmcgrady4750]

And keep their health

[@shawnheidingsfelder8179]

Here's where we find ourselves after the last of the second round: Top four and bottom four are both all out, leaving the middle four, the ones that both played in the opening round and didn't have to sit an extra week, AND had that game at their home stadium.

[@dustinrhodes4793]

We will probly be at 16 before too long, they are already talking about a 14 team setup when this contract runs out after next season

[@codyhughes148]

SMU got blown out in a cold environment. This should have been expected. Warm weather teams will always struggle in cold weather games, it’s impossible to replicate. And it’s exactly why we need home field advantage in the first two rounds of the playoffs.

[@philliphortonRanger501]

It does get cold in dfw area tho 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

[@BlackMan614]

No. They just had an over-rated QB who feasted on weak ACC defenses.

[@SharpByStriking1117]

@@philliphortonRanger501 The average low at night for the last two weeks her in Dallas was 45 degrees. It was 20 degrees at night in Columbus for the Tennessee game. You don’t think a 25 degree difference is not a game changer?

[@philliphortonRanger501]

@@SharpByStriking1117 definitely but I'm just saying it does get cold in that area. I'm just giving a little background but I get what you're saying.🫡🫡

[@philliphortonRanger501]

@ then the other part not all kids are from the same area in United States so some are from cold areas, but good conversation though

[@brainsmasher66]

What's wrong with if you win your conference you get a bye?

[@braazypf]

all these conferences are not on the same level

[@paulbarnaby2430]

They will make it similar to March Madness where they make it but get a lower seed

[@CharlesCribbs]

Conference championships need to go away. It takes a toll on any team physically, and for what? These players are playing on Taradol every Saturday, just like the pros. We are abusing these kids with a 12 game season, then a conference championship, and then FOUR MORE GAMES, potentially. That's insane.

[@brainsmasher66]

@CharlesCribbs They play the conference championship games for the money. I'm for keeping them if the kids are getting their fair share of the 💰 money. If they are not getting paid then they need to go away.

[@brainsmasher66]

@paulbarnaby2430 I know that is what they want to do; but that will make the conference championship and regular season meaningless.

[@brandonfuller7657]

Needs 16 teams

[@michaelschaefer1904]

Powderpuff schedules are still the prize. The NCAA hasn't learned anything since the days of the U.

[@chriswiggins6909]

Get'em, Dan!!!! I love that you speak true! IU deserved to be in the tournament!

[@MIMadDogsHC]

The truest take in all of media!

[@manuelesoto23]

As a Miami fan I can tell you we didn’t deserve to be in the playoffs. SMU and Clemson had beat us out to the ACC CG, so we didn’t deserve to jump either team.

[@Shansman]

Yes. Our defense was pathetic. Do you realize that, before those last 2 games, UM was 50-0 when scoring 40 and 500 yards. That's how bad our defense was. Go Canes

[@tb2704]

Couldn’t agree more. We don’t need to change the rules anytime a fan base is unhappy.. college football fans will always be unhappy with something .. it’ll never be perfect. Just win games you are supposed to & schedule better opponents.. simple.

[@skidMark_69]

2:55 I agree. Take the opinion and human equation out of the CFP seeding. Go back to BCS rankings (now that we’re not picking the top 2 teams). Conference winners get in and whoever is left from the top 12. Seed by BCS ranking.

[@JohnDoe-od7ye]

If we keep the 12-team format I agree completely with your take. You could use the human polls as one metric inside the BCS as was done in the BCS era.

[@skidMark_69]

@ the BCS had its time and place and so did the playoff committee but now it’s time to combine them

[@rexpope980]

Indiana played a closer game vs ND, at ND, than Georgia did. Looking at common opponents, Indiana should have a final ranking higher than GA. I am so tired of SEC bias getting to say who deserves what. Strength of schedule is still based on bias of who is supposedly good on a someone else schedule.

[@matthewharrison7153]

No they didn’t. If you actually watched that game, Indiana was never even in it. Georgia was using a quarterback that had maybe 2 quarters worth of game time all year. What was Indiana’s excuse?

[@darthhelmet5788]

​@@matthewharrison7153IU vs ND game turned within a span of 2 plays that resulted in a likely 10-14 point swing in ND's favor. I still think ND wins but that red zone interception and subsequent 98 yard TD absolutely deflated IU.

[@rexpope980]

@@matthewharrison7153 Maybe GA should have gotten the FSU treatment if you are arguing they had a backup QB.

[@CamHirtle-b2y]

If you have a problem with the 12-man playoff being too many teams, that's a "you" problem. This is the most fair it has ever been.

[@geeloco1600]

Fair? Only 1 games was close

[@TL-qr3ii]

exactly. determine it on the field, not by people with biases and $$ interests. Despite the $ driven ESPN propaganda, SEC is nothing special.

[@geeloco1600]

@@TL-qr3ii there is still an sec team in the final four idiot, so your comment makes no sense

[@Kings0424]

​@@geeloco1600 Doesn't matter. See, people like you only cares about the big schools only and wanna see "big time games". Sometimes that day is not your day

[@JJthelonelybullinasia]

12 man?

[@rowdycmoore]

College football fans have fast become the biggest whiners in sports. They really have no idea what a real playoff system looks like. You put in the teams that did what is needed to qualify under the rules and then you let the chips fall where they may. Amazing how a bunch of people who've never played before (and admittedly a few who have) think they knew who "the best teams" were and that if they had been put in every CFP game would be a CLASSIC. Like they really thought an Alabama team that lost to Oklahoma and Vanderbilt would have doe any better against Notre Dame - how'd they do in their bowl game again?

[@FrankWirth-ij4rq]

How many "StinkeR" Super Bowls have there been? Should those games have not been played? Did both teams earn it somehow? Blah blah

[@jendres28]

Remember when everyone was up in arms over FSU with their great record not making the playoffs last year? Then they got blown out at the orange bowl to Georgia 63-3 and it was all quiet after that.

[@Vic-Vega]

They still earned their right to be there.

[@Wideout4]

@@Vic-Vegahe’s literally doing the revisionist thing

[@Johnnyhamcheck1]

FSU was missing over 20 starters ? It wasn’t the same team

[@TL-qr3ii]

Half of FSU team didn't play. SEC has been exposed with all the losses by so-called great teams. ASU even outplayed TX. Despite $ driven ESPN propaganda, SEC is nothing special.

[@CharlesCribbs]

And TCU to Georgia?

[@mark11967AD]

We know the conference win first round bye won’t last. This was a first go round with this expanded playoff format. Changes will be made. I just hope money doesn’t take over to the point where a Boise State or SMU can’t get in. Granted some of these conference “heavyweights” do need to take on tougher schedules and play at least one or two major conference established programs a Tennessee or a Texas.

[@JamesLybarger]

How about the SEC play 9 conference games like the Big Ten. How about all conferences play just conference games. That will help.

[@GordonGartrell27]

8 would be best. 16 is a bad idea.

[@evanpaulsmithfalconfogolin6147]

This college playoff is still the greatest thing that ever happened to college football. This is a dream come true for football fans.

[@11BscoutNG]

It's unreal to me how many people don't see this.

[@JohnDoe-od7ye]

How is it a dream? These games have been lopsided blowouts with seeding that shows the system and committee are messed up. Maybe it will get better but I doubt it. Oregon and Georgia clearly had the best regular season but were eliminated as OSU finally found its mojo and Carson Beck’s arm gave out. I would have been satisfied with Oregon playing Georgia in a one-month layoff bowl for all the marbles. They both have us fans a great season to watch.

[@Hersius]

Its an absolute joke. It makes the regular season absolutely worthless. 3 loss teams, 2 loss teams that dont even win their conference. NFL has always been a superior product but college football at least had heart and tradition. Now it has nothing. Its pay to win garbage.

[@JohnDoe-od7ye]

@@Hersius Agree 100%.

[@evanpaulsmithfalconfogolin6147]

​@@Hersius Why is the regular season worthless? One of the most far out statements I have heard all year. The season is not worthless at all, your record vs relevant opponents is how teams become ranked. Are you arguing that a college team that was .500 was more deserving of smu or Indiana?

[@Colin_1977]

First round byes for conference winners still makes sense. You MUST put value in those for the betterment of college football.

[@CJ87317]

Exactly.

[@buckeyeinks8189]

Agreed

[@Cybren2000]

If a conference championship is important then it doesn’t need external validation or value from playoff. Let the conference championship be its own value. In the English football, if you win the league, you don’t get special consideration in the FA Cup.

[@snerdterguson]

No. Just no. Why on earth should winning a bad conference give you a bye? ASU and Clemson didn't even deserve a spot with their low ranking, let alone a first round bye. Top 4 teams in the rankings at the end should get the bye, regardless of whether they won, lost or are even in a conference.

[@CJ87317]

Practically every year in the NFL a team that won its division gets homefield advantage over a squad with a better record in the playoffs. It's not like giving a team with a worse record over a team with a better one doesn't happen in other sports, so not sure why this is outside the realm of fairness. Winning your conference should mean something.

[@garyroenicke2102]

Herbie said Before and so did Joel Klatt. Both said BEFORE the game that SMU should Not have been in the Playoffs.

[@pauliewalnuts2527]

indiana lost by 10, georgia lost by 13. georgia is the team that shouldnt have been in

[@phays10]

College football needs to even the playing field out. All the problems go away if you do that.

[@DMP6969]

SEC and B1G need to break away and create their own league. Run it exactly like the pros, salary cap, contracts, trades. Similar playoff structure.

[@erickennedy8534]

nobody wont watch, like other pro leagues that's not the NFL

[@JohnDoe-od7ye]

A better option would be to create a tier 1 league of all schools willing to meet a certain metric in terms of payroll (coaching and players), commitment to facilities, and perhaps a few other factors. No disrespect to Rutgers, Northwestern, Maryland, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State etc but just because you’re in that league doesn’t mean your program is on the level of some other teams from the ACC and Big 12.

[@Johnnyhamcheck1]

Who would want that

[@JohnDoe-od7ye]

@@Johnnyhamcheck1 I don’t even want a playoff. I liked the system pre 1998. But if you HAVE to have a playoff that resembles something remotely competitve it needs to have a streamlined universal starting point. Walk around the facilities at Ohio State. Then walk around the facilities at Indiana. Tell me they are equals after that.

[@TL-qr3ii]

They are doing this without excluding other conferences. Why exclude others? Scared? ASU outplayed TX, and TX needed the refs to bail them out. GT beat UGA except for the refs called a phantom PI to send it to 8OT. ACC had winning record against SEC last year. SEC is nothing special.

[@nelsonmadruga5043]

Disband the greedy/biased committee and bring back the computers.

[@EchoKilo]

Boise State fan here (and have been to all of our Fiesta Bowls). 3.5 weeks off hurt the team, we didn’t deserve or need that much time off.

[@marshalmagooo3899]

A great season however you lose whether it is 1 week or 1 month. PS had way too much depth. Got to know your limitations

[@kevinphillips3295]

That game for ASU was a program builder, they will benefit greatly from that performance. I think we’ll see a lot more of ASU in the future

[@pandersonnike]

My major issue is it feels like 12 teams is too much. I think it should be 8, and have one playoff round, then two bowls like the previous system rotating acting like the semifinals, then the final. Having a team play two bowl games is bizarre, and dumb.

[@Steven-kl6lh]

EXACTLY..EIGHT IS THE MAX THOUGH....BUT GUYS LIKE DANNY KEPT PUSHING FOR TWELVE, which you and I knew was wrong...✌️

[@fishmojo865]

Eight is correct with no conference championship games. No first round bye. All first round bye teams lost. It is a competitive disadvantage after having long layoffs against a team who played the week before to get the rust off.

[@koreadavis-d6d]

That should be the cut off 8 but ESPN and the media. Jump off boys need to justify their jobs to many games season to long bowls are boring now to many of those crappy games players opting out season is long enough

[@MannyLoxx2010]

It's going to 16-teams by 2027, 2028, the sports media says! It will never go down to 8 or 4!! Not enough money to be made for the schools and the TV networks, streaming services, radio, etc!

[@dustinrhodes4793]

I disagree that 12 is too much. But I 100% agree about the Bowls, just have the higher seed host until the Natty.

[@moosecudi899]

Miami should’ve been in but not sure who you would’ve removed. Like Dan always says if you add, who do you remove

[@TheBouShea]

Actually that's the problem they were saying before these teams that are in their spot don't belong the team gets blown out and they say see we told you. However when a team they think belong gets blown out they don't know that happens it's just football. This isn't revisionist history it's confirmation bias

[@adamboozer9204]

Let’s get rid of the first round byes for starters. All four of them lost this year.

[@jean-pierrek1529]

Schedules can be weak in the NFL too! Some divisions some years suck or luck of the draw for out of division games

[@CharlesCribbs]

IU did great this year. They only lost to ND by 10 points, and they deserved to be there. Had it been a neutral site maybe they make it closer, although ND just has better athletes. A tremendous season overall considering they only had 3-4 star athletes. They played well and except for two bad plays against Ohio State, it would have been a much more competitive game. The fact is, any team could beat any other team on any given Saturday. It is what it is. Just get rid of the conference championships. They mean nothing. Oregon had to play an extra game that wasn't necessary. Just put the top 12 teams in, regardless of where they landed in their conference.

[@zachhoward9099]

Until IU wins the Conference or beats Ohio State it won’t matter to the naysayers. IU has been such a football afterthought these clowns can’t see them as anything besides an afterthought

[@nickandcorinasadventuresin5115]

Why can’t they take the top 12 teams in the rankings and there is your bracket. I mean why have a ranking system if you’re not going to use it at the end of the season?

[@natecruz7114]

Really? So you want Alabama, with 3 losses, who got their ass handed to them by Michigan, in a playoff game in December in Indiana, Ohio, or Pennsylvania? Okay

[@gsf23]

@@natecruz7114 Well, if they got three losses then they probably shouldn't be top 12 in the rankings. That sounds like a rankings problem.

[@nickandcorinasadventuresin5115]

@@natecruz7114why was Alabama ranked that high then? I’m just saying, all year long we look at these rankings for what? They don’t mean anything when it comes to playoffs and bowl games, so why have them?

[@khkartc]

“December Madness” by nature can’t be on par with “March Madness,” but the idea behind the 12-team CFP is to create the _dream_ for .2-3 teams, anyway, that they can take the cheese. This year, the “underdogs” were the same “big dogs” we’re used to seeing, but there _will_ be true upsets in some years. Refine the selection and seeding process, yes, but let the dream live on.

[@robertjulieannanalett1691]

Absolutely do not need 12 teams in the college football playoff 8 games max.

[@randysmith1781]

You can say that about all sports . NBA first rounds mostly blowouts, same baseball and NFL . Keep it 12 you will get an upset sooner or later. Oregon got dominated the worst of all the games calm down it’s one year

[@Hodgiez]

We did say that SMU, Indiana, and Clemson were not among the 12 best teams. 6 team playoff would be best.

[@sethmontank8623]

IU has two losses, both of those teams are in the final four of the playoffs, when will this bs end?!? They beat Michigan, USC, they had the resume to be there, just stop!

[@M98747]

​@@sethmontank8623It will never stop, because their heads are shoved so far up their butt. Indiana had the best common opponent numbers of anyone in the country. IU played Notre Dame closer If you rewatch the OSU game, IU played them better than Oregon just did, in Columbus. They just hate because they hate, and they have no data to back up their ridiculous opinions. I wish IU would've drawn one of these SEC teams instead of Notre Dame.

[@TonyM132]

Please do not suggest that Vegas power rankings should determine the CFP field! The spirit of competition, wins and losses, must matter (which they bascially do not in neutral field point spread favorability rankings).

[@TonyM132]

Please do not suggest Vegas power rankings should determine the CFP field! The spirit of competition, wins and losses, must matter (which they basically do not in neutral field point spread favorability).

[@buckeyeranger6438]

Thk you for your insight 👊

[@brentrazz6355]

Guys, players sit out in these games. Go to different schools and don't play. It's going to be this way. No matter how good the team is. It's college. Every team can get blown out. Especially if the roster isn't deep. Some of the schools it is not. Period, they got 3 guys or 2 that's supper elite.

[@546cowboy6]

Looking back Texas did everything they could to lose that game The defense gave up two touchdowns in five minutes with two point conversions to tie it, the Texas kicker had two chances to win and missed the second from 38 yds. with 2 seconds left after a drive from their own 25 in two minutes. So just how good was Arizona State?

[@alwaysplaythegame]

They should just have a 16 team tournament. Really fixes the vast majority of issues.

[@John_Hoover]

Never mind the fact that bigger and bigger playoffs increasingly water down what has always been the best regular season in all of sports.

[@alwaysplaythegame]

​@@John_Hoover More football = better to me but it's definitely true that regular season upsets don't mean nearly as much. Michigan beating Ohio State this year would've knocked them from the playoffs. The SEC and B1G championships also didn't matter, etc.

[@BillPlain1]

12 teams is a solid format, but they screwed up by not reseeding. All other playoff formats reseed each round, but not division 1 football, because they want to be different? Or are they lazy? Who knows, but it was shameful. That was the only failure of this college football post season.

[@spdcrzy]

Sweet 16. There's a reason it works in basketball. It works in college football too.

[@ADeep007]

BYU went 10-2 and BEAT SMU in the regular season, and blew out a 23 ranked CU team. Based on how ASU in the BIG12 played, they got royally screwed.

[@ADeep007]

SEC is overrated. ASU had the athletes Texas has. It wasn’t a Boise state deal where they didn’t have the athletes. BYU would have gave Penn State a much better game and wouldn’t have been nearly as affected by the cold.

[@christophercarrigg3775]

No they didn't

[@Vic-Vega]

Absolutely not.

[@TB-im1ci]

The conference bye was done to penalize ND for not joining a conference . Period

[@marshalmagooo3899]

ND AD agreed to it so the playoff expansion would happen. ND has no interest in being in a league.

[@TB-im1ci]

@marshalmagooo3899 they agreed to it but that doesn't change the fact it was placed in there to penalize them and try to force them into a conference. Of course as we have seen this year the lost income and freedom a conference would have brought guaranteed no advantage in actual games as all bye teams lost.

[@marshalmagooo3899]

@@TB-im1ci I don't disagree but ND will always be Independent.

[@TB-im1ci]

@marshalmagooo3899 I hope so. But I also believe the pressure that's out on them will increase.

[@marshalmagooo3899]

@@TB-im1ci possibly but doubt they ever will. I would prefer the Big 10 since the education/athletics align

[@littlewing2357]

16 teams, no byes.

[@BuckMulligan72]

I'm not sure if Dan meant it leterally about Vegas having a say, but that would not be a good idea because Vegas takes into consideration how many people are going to bet on certain teams. Ohio State, Alabama, other big names are going to draw more betters than lower tier teams, and that would lead oddsmakers to manipulate odds and rankings to get betting volume working in their favor.

[@Muskogee]

You can't look at regular bowl games and say a team doesn't belong there. In these bowl games, not the playoff games, the other bowl games kids aren't playing in those and most are transfering for NIL money.

[@helpfixstupid6190]

Soooo by herbies logic, UGA shouldn't have been in the cfp....

[@GR8Eight1]

Just go to 32 teams and no byes. Use the combination of coaches and AP polls. I don’t see them using Vegas as a seeding guide due to conflicts of interests.

[@Sayres434]

The first round bye is my only complaint this year

[@Bb74086]

The point is to see who is the best not who should be there. We now know the 4 teams there now aren’t the same 4. The byes and seating needs changed though.

[@Bob_Oxnard-sp1gr]

If hypothetical games are the ones that really matter, then why play any actual games and incur the risk of non-hypothetical injuries?

[@rapid13]

How many NFL 1st round games are blowouts? I don’t hear anyone saying the losing teams don’t belong.

[@whatthe8898]

Is it me or do all the sports that give bye weeks for the certain rank/position, the team on the bye loses?

[@wvnovello]

And the funny thing is those like Herbstreit who said Indiana/SMU/Boise State shouldn't have been in the playoff..the teams they claim would have been better also lost (SC, Alabama). Herbstreit doesn't go back and say "well, in light of Alabama losing to a mid level Michigan, I think Indiana was the better choice".

[@Foggydidwhat]

Why would he? Those are mutually exclusive events cause of variable change…. Do you expect every incorrect opinion needs an apology for every opinion?

[@brauckstar]

Do it how the NFL does. I recall a 7-9 Seahawks team beat the saints in a wildcard game where the saints were the wildcard. Talk about a team the “didn’t belong”

[@teejaye6226]

Oregon deserved to have a home game as a #1 seed. Penn St, who lost to Oregon not only got a home game , they were given a total cupcake to play. wow

[@SenorHomeslice]

Looks like if you want a competitive college playoff game, you need two Big 12 teams, even if that means stealing one of them to give your conference some legitimacy.

[@bubbarainwater]

Abolish the Committee . . . 8 conference champs, 8-team playoff. We will get great non-conference games, better bowl games, done by New Years.

[@Steven-kl6lh]

Danny(the alkie)... said for years..." If they go to 12 teams, nobody will have a complaint..."...ha... Danny complains about the 68 team basketball tournament...👎👎👎😵‍💫

[@user-jc6pr5el5g]

"they don't belong there"...."Bama should be in" etc., is all due to one fundamental flaw to the system - that 8 of the 12 teams are in the playoff based on a subjective consideration (rankings). We don't experience this in other leagues because the path to get in is fixed and known by all parties before the season. If the Denver Broncos beat the chiefs and get into the AFC playoffs, we won't have hours of talk shows and call-ins talking about why Cincinnati really should be in. The whole concept of subjective opinions on who is more deserving to get in is ludicrous and it's not solved by more or less teams in a playoff. The only solution is qualifying by virtue of your position relative to your conference. So each conference winner gets in (6), and if they want to have a 12-team playoff then top 2 teams in each conference. If you don't finish 1 or 2 in your conference you don't "deserve" to be in a playoff, even if some writers and talking heads "think" you're better than a conference winner, it means nothing. And, Independents, join a conference!

[@AlexanderBarreto]

Agreed. The NFL uses objective criteria. College football uses subjective criteria.

[@nickcervantez7202]

Huge part of that is that the nfl plays enough games to go based off of wins and losses alone. There's only so many games they play in college and more upsets that it is hard to make a conclusion based off numbers alone

[@madhattersc4051]

Wish they would change the second round to be on campus. All four bye teams play neutral site games more than a full week after their competition played their first game. It reduced the impact of the bye and it gave more advantage to the non-bye team than they had deserved. Give the teams who have byes one home game and make the games Saturday to Saturday. Give up on forcing those games onto NYE / NYD.

[@juancatfish1]

Does the NCAA want people or computers to decide who gets in the playoffs?

[@asdf072xxp]

"Take the human equation out of this." There's no way. That'd require head-to-head competitions between every FBS school, which is impossible

[@jmebig3044]

Great teams get smashed in the college tournament all the time. Hell, Purdue lost to a 16 seed one year and they go to the national title the next year with essentially the same team. Sometimes teams just put up a dud performance especially with multiple weeks off.

[@troylee4196]

Hot take media is already dumb I thought we'd be on the point explaining WHY a team lost like SC used to be and these podcasts try to complain about media not doing

[@michaelhansen7516]

Good take Dan. Whatever it is, this format didn't work. I got so disappointed in the first round games that I turned off the tube when Texas went up early, then skipped the remaining 2 quarter finals. Should have watched that ND v G game but I was snakebit by then.

[@JJthelonelybullinasia]

It's not that there were teams that shouldn't be in the playoffs, it's that the playoffs have too many teams. Yet aren't 12 teams capable of winning ah NC. 4 or 6 each year is all that's needed. Look at the NFL. Playoff blowouts every year because teams get in that shouldn't because they're in a weak division.

[@JOKEY68]

Really all a team should have to do is win. So what if one team or conference might be weaker that’s beauty of competition. Teams that get/got blown doesn’t mean they didn’t deserve to be there to me. The system now is based on a group of people’s opinion on who deserves it rather than just winning. I’m in the SEC and I believe if you don’t win enough games then you shouldn’t be considered for the playoffs.

[@realdarylt]

We knew those teams were gonna get blown out

[@Handletaken4]

Indiana drove at will, threw a pick, gave up a 98 yd run. 14 point swing. They lost by 10. Could have easily won.

[@littlewing2357]

Having all the conferences will level the playing field.

[@tonymeinerding7463]

Can't stand the pontificating DP!! Many people were saying teams like Indiana didn't belong before they stunk up the playoff!!!!

[@CJ87317]

Indiana deserved to be. I'm not even an IU fan, but basically all the teams mentioned as replacements lost games they shouldn't have. Most also lost Bowl games they were favored in.

[@jamesmarshall6619]

@@CJ87317 I agree. I think Alabama, Ole Miss, and South Carolina were overall more talented and had much tougher schedules but on a week to week basis Indiana blew out just about every team they faced. They faced weak competition and buried them, they did what they were supposed to do. They lost handily to Ohio State at Ohio State but we all knew Ohio State was really good. I think SOS should matter but so should winning and if you are winning convincingly and other teams are losing games, I think the team that is winning all of their games deserves to be in. It's one thing to lose to a good team, it's one thing to lose to a good team and have an off day against a mediocre team, it's another thing like Alabama to lose to a good team, lose to a mediocre team, and get easily beat by another mediocre team. To me at that point you don't deserve to be in and I like Alabama so I'm not a hater. I was cheering for them, wanted them to win but to me you can't make a case for them simply because the SEC might be the best conference in a year in which the SEC is probably not that much better than everyone else like in the past.

[@SomeChink]

so SMU, Oregon, and Tennessee also should have been excluded

[@magdalenamadness]

Thank God, you and your team are back from vacation. You were sorely missed. Please don’t do that again.

[@joel387ktm]

Lets just make it 24 team playoff like the fcs and be done with it if your not in the top24 you aint winning the championship anyway

[@jpa145]

Couldn’t agree more, Dan!

[@sportsmediaamerica]

Make it 8 teams, 12 is too damn many! Even 6 might be better, with a first round, a semifinal, then a championship game. Some of these teams will be playing 17 games : 12 regular season, 1 conference championship, and 4 playoffs. It's nuts.

[@jacob4920]

I don't think there has ever been a time where I agreed MORE with Dan Patrick, than in this particular opinion!! Judging teams AFTER THE FACT is such a "Monday Morning Quarterback" thing to do, and yet we treat those opinions like they're actually valid opinions, when NFL fans would LAUGH AT people who talked like that, out of both sides of their stupid mouths!

[@SO-if3yn]

“It’s not just Coach Saban and the SEC paying players anymore. Everyone can do it now.”

[@NEOMAGCUSTOMS]

Bsu fan (not a diehard, just a local) i just wanted BSU to play a good game win or lose. Agree with Dan here.

[@TheBouShea]

The main reason why they put you need a conference Champion for a buy is because they don't want this scenario ( I'm just picking three teams this is not based on this year) Oregon plays Ohio State for the conference Championship Ohio State loses and Penn State gets a buy because they didn't play and Ohio State because they just lost falls out of the by

[@TerryTitus-w1s]

Question; if certain teams shouldn't have there,then who should have been there instead.Bet those types say I don't know! Well.