D&D Lore: The Blood War (Eternal Battle of Devils and Demons)

[@CharlesOakes-j4u]

lanten....ok this was awsome..where do i even start...I LEARNED so much more about things i allready knew about and found some new..and that my good man is pricless..i wish i had money to suport this rich...im not a rules stickler and you cant brack my game ..trust me on epic ..but its great to have lore more planed out on how it is presented and from foot notes to facts in a understandable easy follow...and in this and most others...YOU NAIL IT its breath taking art..its the gamè ..story love a great tail..i CAN NOT stress how trully GREAT this hole channel,is.. scale 1 to 10..its a omg please..now i need more insight on the gray waste.the hags and soul trade..if im sayin that right..the price and perpuse of souls ..that kinda thing...MR. RICH..i take my hat of to you..thank you ,,u rock,,for some reason i can see myself handing you a paliden to play..now theres a holy charter id LOVE to see from you!

[@RichesandLiches]

I cannot express how encouraging comments like these are, especially in the middle of a 60 hour production!! Thank you so much for such nice words and taking the time to share them. /bow

[@josephsorrendino4920]

I'm very glad to see you covered the Modrons.

[@RichesandLiches]

Planning a dedicated volume on the little guys, hopefully in May!

[@johntheherbalistg8756]

Blood War, let's gooo! Love this lore. It's probably my favorite piece of D&D cosmology

[@siddharth9407]

Damn the artwork itself was epic, the description was captivating

[@hinalusaire]

I was just playing BG3 yesterday and just met Karlach and she mentioned being a soldier in the Blood War. I've been wondering what that was so this video came at such serendipitous time. 👍

[@HeavyTopspin]

Every time I watch one of these videos that mentions Asmodeus, I hope and pray for a picture of Ruby Rod from The Fifth Element to appear on-screen.

[@mckillu06]

He sticks that golden microphone in Bruce Willis face except it's Asmodeus face on Bruce Willis body

[@popechucky]

😂😂😂

[@Painkiller86]

Super-green!

[@RichesandLiches]

Its happened... in a video of mine, but you will have to find it :)

[@silentdreamer821]

I was dming in greyhawk and in my campaign asmodeus ' rod was the top part of the rod of seven parts.

[@cernunnos_lives]

I really like the lore involved with the formation of the Planes of Existence and the Blood War. I'm glad there's more channels covering it nowadays. You do a fantastic job. Your efforts at putting this together is amazing.

[@ashvandal5697]

I'm actually super interested in a nice long video or two regarding the war between the wind dukes and the queen of chaos. I think it's because I never really found too much lore regarding it, and it seems so titanic, that it draws my imagination so much. I've always wanted to see Miska stated. The rod of seven parts was probably the most interesting 2nd ed artifact imo besides the sword of kas and the silencer of bodach.

[@wizardgreen6154]

I vote for all the options! Love the devils, my favorite of the evil races. But the demons are extremely fascinating too! At the very least the major demon lords! Also, really looking forward to the rest of the Archduke videos!

[@prestongarner8796]

I hope you could do a video about the Yugoloth/daemon and Demodand/gehreleths two of the most neutral evil forces, and what they play in the blood war is between the demons and Devils? How the operate and function? The two referees.

[@heathharris2545]

Wonderful video. I preferred it when the Blood War took place all over the planes in between the Abyss and the Hells.

[@RichesandLiches]

Could not agree more!

[@45682chain]

Keep the ball rolling now that you have brought the abyss into it. Focus on that then go on to the factions of Hades

[@SolusEmsu]

Ah yes! Love the Blood War Lore. Personally would love a full video about the Queen of Chaos!

[@wells235]

Me too!!

[@RichesandLiches]

She is on my list!

[@josephsorrendino4920]

Thank you for another awesome video!

[@EricSolomon-u2z]

Love this lore stuff and the art work is awesome.

[@RichesandLiches]

Thank you! I appreciate you taking the time to watch and share your opinion, really means a lot.

[@prestongarner8796]

Please make a video about the Tanar'ri demons and the abyss and how devils invade abyss and how they all come to the first layer of the abyss called Pazunia where Pazuzu rules?

[@johndalziel4226]

Thanks for the great episode, been waiting for more lore about this 😊

[@corymorse4271]

Go nuts on yugoloths. They are criminally underreported upon.

[@RichesandLiches]

I completely agree! They are DEFINITELY getting their own video.

[@TheOneandPrime]

I feel the Blood War has nothing to do with Good versus Evil or Evil versus Evil.It's more Law versus Chaos

[@briankelly1240]

Go to sleep listening to the lore! And awaken to it as well! Hope to DM again soon!

[@marinaro69]

I’d love to hear more about the Modrons’ involvement in the Blood War

[@steffanreichenbach3124]

[@tbohn10]

Dialectical struggle is common in both mythology and history. Perhaps the questions you've asked are interesting points to explore in your own campaign? What happens when the war shifts or is won? What outside entities would have an interest in such events?

[@dabneybowen8097]

Asmodeus knows I think...

[@SkullCowboy333]

What about how the soul trade as to both the celestial and the infernal influences the blood war, souls being fuel for the gods and the coin of the realm as to both devils and demons?

[@RichesandLiches]

Covered in the nine hells series! Thanks for the comment.

[@andrewkeaton4745]

Absolutely fantastic video!

[@matthewdunham1689]

I like the irony that the Devils are the saviors of the multiverse. ❤😂😂😂🎉❤

[@716monk]

Great justification as to why good tolerates their existence and accumulation of power, AND a way to let the forces of celestial etc keep their hands tidy and good

[@JMOlsen_]

​@@716monkLol. No. Good is not powerful enough to get rid of Evil. Hence balance is achieved.

[@716monk]

@@JMOlsen_ didn't mean to suggest that was the case. I said it can serve as justification as to why good tolerates the continued accumulation of power by evil, particularly via the corruption of souls, when one would expect a bit more direct intervention against evil, by the very nature of axiomatic goodness. Didn't suggest they could effectively stop evil, or overpower it, simply that beings of axiomatic good should probably have strong justification for not actively combatting evil and corruption (I wouldn't count 'cause we're not numerically strong enough' among strong justifications, personally)

[@JMOlsen_]

@@716monk Axiomatic equals lawful. Goodness doesn't have to be lawful. There are laws to their world, much like in our world. Limiting what supernatural beings can and cannot do. Another thing is that it is easier to become evil than to become good. Devils fighting demons don't risk their alignments and thereby abilities. Celestials can easily fall and become other types of creatures. More than one example of that...

[@noahtipton7302]

I love the conspiracy theory that Asmodeus is actually either an agent Io or Celestia. That while he is "Evil" he is in fact serving what that see as the "greater good" in keeping the Blood war in balance. That the entire blood war was orchestrated to keep Thorasidune contained forever.

[@RichesandLiches]

@noahtipton7302 I have that one jotted down in my notes for future reference :) Thank you!

[@PumpdaBrakes-ub8kp]

@3:30, seeing that GIANT SMOKEY DEMON coming will give a Devil pause

[@SuperMadgiraffe]

Definitely my favorite lore subject. Such a treasure trove of endless content. Have used the blood war in campaigns before from players being unwitting pawns to active participants. Fantastic RP opportunities. Go team Baatezu!

[@Jeremy-rp3in]

Awww hell yeah!!! Let the blood flow!! Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the skull throne!

[@Hurricayne92]

Wrong IP 😜 and besides all hail the Changer of Ways

[@Jeremy-rp3in]

@@Hurricayne92 we are all slaves to chaos .. the IP is irrelevant.

[@Spartan135]

Time to call the Inquisition...

[@csdn4483]

Personally I tend to fall into the Serpents of Law origin for Asmodeus because there's an aspect that kind of shows this. Glasya, Asmodeus' daughter, is far more powerful than she, or anyone else besides Asmodeus/Ahriman, realize. Besides Asmodeus, she is the only other archdevil that will regenerate after being killed and will return to life. Neither she nor Asmodeus can be killed, even if killed in the Hells (any other archdevil killed in the Hells is permanently destroyed, but not Asmodeus nor Glasya). This means that there's more to Glasya and her power than anyone, besides Asmodeus, realizes.

[@youngimperialistmkii]

Playing a Goblin Spore Druid that worships Zuggtmoy in a game atm. Demon Lords are so cool.

[@mabusxb856]

In 3.5 asmodius. Was an angel created to punish evil. And slowly got worse and worse to the point the gods didn't like his methods made a deal and changed asmodius into the first devil.

[@RichesandLiches]

Indeed he was! I covered all the origin stories in the nine hells series.

[@MultiCommissar]

Excellent coverage. I was surprised that you didn't cover Night Hag profiteering though. They're certainly one of the major forces in The Blood War, even if mostly an economic one.

[@RichesandLiches]

You should check out my story and lore videos (one each) on the Stitched Devil... where a Night Hag most certainly makes her way into the Hells to barter with a Kochrachon :)

[@fishpig003]

Not me making a world and abt 3 months into the random realm existing making it a product of a blood war conclusion. The demons and fiends ally to overtake the celestials, who have had scales tipped towards good for a very long time.

[@Vampster19CockedD20]

I'm fixing to be playing my 1st campaign as a player im always the GM. We are playing Out Of The Abyss.... Demon Lord videos would be awesome especially with more rare or old demon Lords that's not talked about much.

[@JDdoesstuff]

Great lore video, I learned new things about the nine hells and the blood war! ❤ amazing work keep up the wonderful videos 😊

[@JokersVsZombies]

Why does it have a cross on its forehead in dnd?

[@RichesandLiches]

He wants to reform? :) I planned to remove it for obvious reasons, but kind of liked it. :) Valid question though, thanks for the time!

[@Mournforthelost96]

Having only really had experience with 5E, i was confused as fuck when the video started out talking about Baatezu and Tanar'ri. Took me a hot google and reddit trip to understand which was which.

[@RichesandLiches]

I tried to avoid confusion by making sure the early references always included "Baatezu Devils of the Nine Hells" and "Tanar'ri Demons of the Abyss". Apologies it was not clearer, I know that is an old planescape reference that some do not understand.

[@jprp999]

The BW can be ended pretty quickly: just free Tharizdun and Master Entropy from their prison.

[@hennebux]

Isn't the name more so " bawl" and not "bell" ?

[@indrachristian341]

Can you do the Jinns or the celestials??

[@nikp3572]

What a story line in a campaign that demons and devils are banning togther to gather more souls. UMMM i have ideas. Could you do a vide on the Raven Queen?

[@RichesandLiches]

Raven Queen is DEFINITELY on my list and pretty high up in fact. So perhaps next month optimistically. I can't promise a May delivery, but I can promise I am profiling her!

[@nikp3572]

@@RichesandLiches She is one of my favorite dieties in 5e. The number one is everyone favorite spider Lolth. Both origins is great

[@TheFepf]

Keep it up! I love your work!

[@augustochuko]

I love this part of the D&D lore. The AI art is so hard to watch though.

[@RichesandLiches]

I am sorry you don't like the art, but that is part of the stories and lore I share. I understand if that does not align with your expectations. I appreciate your comments.

[@jamesgross4833]

Meh…there’s nothing in the lower planes, any of them, that should keep the Blood War from spilling over from the Devils’ perspective. Harsh terrain?…what? They are immune, otherwise they wouldn’t survive the Hells. Problem I have with D&D is the same I had with Marvel comics growing up: they swear up and down this is the baddest bad, and then some new other comes along and supersedes it. “But wait…these utterly useless creatures pre-date Asmodeus, the gods, and all of creation!!!!!” 🐂💩

[@Tokmurok]

I think its just demons are nutters and devils are overworked so good isnt totally destroyed

[@CooperativeWaffles]

Huzzah! Always a good day when @RichesAndLiches adds a video. Thanx! ￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣￣ (Psst...) ※※※ (...consider including a bit about things in the Campaign Setting of Golarion...) (...even just a compare & contrast discussion can benefit any TTRPG table...) (...so much lore exists that is ripe for plucking from one Fantasy Roleplaying system and planting in another....) ※※※

[@Hollowbarista]

Spoiler "Pikel Bouldershoulder - from zero to hero!"

[@craigmoen1430]

"Oooo oi!"

[@13Echoside]

You spelled lichdom wrong in the text at 41:34. Also, I love your videos.

[@RichesandLiches]

Dang it! I look at these videos nearly 100 times before they go up, but after 60 hours of editing, it just all becomes a blur. Super lazy mistake... Thanks for letting me know. I would fix but its FAR more involved than it should be. I have it noted for any future remaster.

[@PumpdaBrakes-ub8kp]

Do a video on Kelemvor , please. I read the trilogy. He is the Judge of the Dead, however, pettioners pray to their gods and they are taken to their afterlife. Is Kelemvor judging those who did not believe? I know he puts those souls into a Wall. Those that did believe goes to their gods. So who is he judging? seems like unbelievers are already doomed for the wall.

[@RichesandLiches]

@PumpdaBrakes-ub8kp I already have a kelemvor script in the works. Kelevmor is one of my favorite gods. I have a few projects in line ahead, but Kelemvor will definitely be getting a dedicated video.

[@PumpdaBrakes-ub8kp]

@@RichesandLiches looing forward to it!

[@majinsole8554]

Alexa, play “Bad Blood” by Taylor Swift. ~_~

[@Darby-qu6hz]

Why the hell does the guy in the thumbnail have a cross on his forehead? Where you come from our Earth.

[@dabneybowen8097]

Lucifer precedes Asmodeus in D&D canon...

[@markgraham5971]

Thank you for the effort. Your pronunciation of the Bae-Aht-Zu , the Ta-Nar-ee , as well as Asmode-ee-us , are wrong. Yet your pronunciation of Baator is correct and is the root word. You also would have done yourself a MASSIVE service by going back to the 2nd edition Planescape setting for lore, origins, and an even better understanding of the motives and influence of each of the factions. Well produced video though.

[@RichesandLiches]

While I appreciate your feedback, your assumptions that my pronunciations are off or that I do not have a firm grasp of the blood war is very inaccurate. I played planescape quite extensively and well understand the lore better than most. While you may certainly choose to pronounce these words differently, and perhaps you prefer hearing them pronounced as you are used to, my pronunciations are accurate (as are the alternatives). Asmodeus (pronounced: /æzmoʊˈdeɪʌs/ æz-mo-DAY-us or: /æzˈmoʊdiʌs/ æz-MO-dee-us) Baatezu (pronounced: /beɪˈɑːtɛzuː/ bay-AT-eh-zoo or: /ˈbɑːtɛzʌ/ BAH-teh-zu) Tanar'ri (pronounced: /tɑːˈnɑːrri/ tah-NAHR-ree or: /tɛˈnɑːri/ teh-NAH-ree or: /təˈnɑːri/ tuh-NAHR-ee) We will just have to agree to disagree. Thanks for your time.

[@dabneybowen8097]

No such thing as an incorrect pronunciation. Pronounced in a manner you object to perhaps.

[@know_not_wickedness]

Fantastic Video as usual. I always have to cringe when you insert any 5th Edition refuse in your videos. First Edition H series modules were pure D&D magic.

[@TheFlyingFish692]

So basically, USA vs China 😅

[@johnedwards5738]

Yes

[@blakebloomquist]

😳 Wow...

[@seankramer8525]

Yeah, but which side is which depends on which country you're in.

[@me3moo2]

Not even close 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♀️🤦

[@janezkrajnski]

More like dems vs reps

[@cheddar_boss]

You are very informative but your pronunciation of certain words just drives me crazy. But again, seriously informative

[@RichesandLiches]

I am going to throw out a guess that one of those words is Tanar'ri? If so, I acknowledge that its not how most pronounce it, but saying it any other way sounds very weird, IMO. What other pronounciations drive you crazy? :) Thanks for the comment and taking the time to watch and give feedback. :)

[@cheddar_boss]

Don't get hung up on it brother! Great vid, I'm still watching your others! It's flavor, I'm honestly thinking now of making npcs say these pronunciations to liven up the world.

[@shadowclone1598]

nice ai usage

[@Joemantler]

The explanation of the natures of the factions is too complex. It doesnt feel natural. Rather, like something someone thought up in college after some particular lecture or another sparked the idea. It should be far more simple. The Baats are about domination of others. All the power in the world would not satisfy them as much as everyone doing what they were told. They are social by Nature, thus have a strict hierarchy. They obey because they must, which they hate!, and always look for a way to overcome their immediate superior, either by gaining more power (preferable) or crippling their immediate master. The Tans, by contrast, are creations of the Abyss for the sole purpose of the End Of All Things. Ultimate nihilists. They dont care about spreading corruption, or making people unhappy. They want everything Undone. Either the sun explodes and the ashes disintegrate, or the energy death of the universe such that even the bonds of matter and energy come apart. Of course, from the perspective of most Tans, that isnt it at all. They want power over the world. They want to be God. Not gods (little 'g', plural). Each of them want complete control of everything to make the universe in to suit their desires. But their nature is also flawed, and what they create cannot last. All their machinations fall apart (as the abyss intended). Each Tans' desires conflict with each others'. And so, they HATE! "If I cant have what I want, NO ONE CAN HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT!" So they destroy, by whatever method they like, by meant direct or subtle. So the Baats say "you cant wreck this, I want it, now get in line." and the Tans say "FU!" (which more or less sums up all their thought processes). Frankly, you could leave out anything having to do with the Abyss creating them, and it would all work just as well.

[@dabneybowen8097]

Oh boy, no comment.

[@Joemantler]

"Oh boy, no comment," he commented.

[@chrisroman2177]

Too bad there's printed explanations of the artwork without a break in narration. Either pause narrative during printed explanations or just narrate everything, no onscreen print

[@crisyapp8992]

Gi

[@lunamaria1048]

Ugh you too often start to talk about something interesting then stop to say "we'll save that for a future video"... Too many times per video lol

[@dabneybowen8097]

Lol huh

[@lunamaria1048]

@@dabneybowen8097 Suspense.. I hate suspense lol. Like starting a very interesting topic, talking about it just enough to get me VERY interested, then saying something like, "but enough about that. We will save that for a future video", or lol, "I won't go into much more detail about that, because I covered it in my previous series". Do not start something you can't finish

[@insidiousodium]

Is this channel voiced and or written by AI? His voice just doesn't sound "human" enough to me

[@RichesandLiches]

This is the first time I have ever been told I am not "human" enough. :( Although after listening, I am not sure how anyone could mistake my narration for an AI voice. In any event... no the words and voice are all mine and I spent about 22 of the 64 hour production time just on the writing alone so I have to confess your comment does sting a little. Nevertheless, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.

[@robofthenorthadjacent2269]

​@@RichesandLichesI think your voice is perfect for this format. The effort that you put in shows in the polish of both your visual and auditory presentation. The writing and reading are great. Your efforts are appreciated.

[@dabneybowen8097]

Yes, these critics are piling up aren't they? No shortage of experts as usual. At least they are kind enough to display their... Expertise, so one may know with whom one is dealing, aye?

[@AncientRylanor69]

🍊🍍🥭

[@dabneybowen8097]

What drivel and rubbish we have on display here! Carry on R&L, carry on i say. I daresay some of these addlepates fancy themselves Masters of the Queen's English. I dispute these vain and vacuous blathering nonsensicals one and all. God save us from the bloody experts. Harumph! Pronunciation indeed, the bloody nerve. Well, line up and have at it laddies and lassies. We can serve right proper servings of much needed humility without unduly tiring ourselves all the day through, I'll warrant you that. You'd think some of these chaps had whistled up Asmodeus himself from the Goetia, Jesu forfend, and had it, that much enshrined 'correct' pronunciation, from rhe Archfiend's own lips.

[@Godwin420]

Thought I found myself in Star Trek for a moment - tah nah ree? Always amazes me all of the different ways various groups pronounce D&D names.

[@RichesandLiches]

I will go to my grave on this one! :) Thanks for the watch and comment!

[@HeavyTopspin]

That's okay, Drow will always rhyme with Bow and it will always be "Dwer-gar" where I'm concerned... and don't get me started on the as-MOE-dee-us vs. as-moe-DAY-us battle. Or for that matter that daemon is actually pronounced "demon".

[@tomkerruish2982]

​@@HeavyTopspin Did you deliberately choose 'bow' just to prolong the debate? 🙇‍♂️ vs 🎀