Richmond Station Contrasts

This film was taken at the Richmond Station in south-west London, and not Richmond North Yorkshire.
Footage dates from the 1980's to 2011.
The oldest footage shows a London Transport CO / CP stock train; this comes from silent super 8 film.
1990's footage shows various British Railways trains in Network SouthEast livery plus London Underground District Line D78 stock in unpainted aluminium 'livery'.
The 2011 footage shows various SouthWest Trains trains in various SWT liveries and the same District Line trains in London Underground Corporate livery.

[@chriscboland]

When I was about 12 I used to get the train to school sometimes from Richmond instead of Twickenham so I could watch the first Boeing 747s landing. They were enormous.

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

yes they were big but nowadays the A380's are even bigger!

[@holyschmoe1466]

lived here, born and raised, till about 3 years ago, the old footage brings back memories of day trips to london, me and me dad would get on a train, a fiver in my pocket and his, and just go somewhere, buy lunch and come back. my nanny’s friend ran earl’s court station, i still have some stuff, my bast friend now works as a driver, lost contact but still have a drivers uniform, those d stocks were my favourite, i’d come back any day over my new area, just quite boring, best memory is when i got to go in the cab of an old 30s stock from Richmond to earl’s court, must have been at least 25 years ago

[@collieultimo]

You invested a lot of work and put together some impressive footage and pictures. The result is a great film and valuable dokument of a local landmark of that area of the city. The people of the city archive should know about this film!!

[@dez3540]

4:51 sheesh, you'd have thought the driver would slow down before turning round that slight bend - look how much that carriage rocked to the side!

[@vicsams4431]

The red CO/CP Stock was my normal train at Hornchurch. Then replaced by the white R Stock, then the D78 Stock, then the S Stock. Makes you feel old when you have seen four lots of rolling stock. I only got as far as Kew Gardens with R Stock. I also rode in a Class 501 once from Broad Street to Kew Gardens. In later years, I rode Class 423 4VEPs from Waterloo to Reading. Then I worked the North London Line, and cabrode in Class 313s to Richmond and North Woolwich. Although my first visit to North Woolwich was before electrification with a Class 105 Cravens unit ! I also had a Class 416 2EPB from Stratford Low Level to Willesden Junction as I was working at Old Oak Common Open Day @ 1985. Thanks for capturing these scenes.

[@vicsams4431]

P.S. I have also cabrode a Class 458 Waterloo to Reading and back.

[@AbstractMan23]

6:49 a thing of beauty - wonderful footage!

[@TerryTheNewsGirl]

Love Richmond. One of my favourite places! Cheers for uploading!

[@maxthegamerhd562]

I live near Richmond, I live in Hanworth, there is good shops,restaurants and places, also im near to Hounslow, So my school goes to Hounslow East station to go for a trip :)

[@scopex2749]

I was a train technician on the 458's for 5 years with SWT lovely trains then later I mved to the District Line as a project manager updating the 'D' stock! now sadly all gone!

[@JamesTaylorMain]

7 years from now, the D stock trains have been replaced by S stock trains on the District line.

[@F2Aviation]

Wow even the 2011 footage is very different to these days... How times have moved on...

[@sgt.eclair]

fasterthanyou2planes Imagine showing the 2011 footage to his 1970s self..

[@zenzombie72]

I remember you promised to upload some silent film of co/cp a while back. Thank you for being true to your word.

[@01276]

Damn i miss those CEPs, used to get them everyday with the occasional VEP

[@chriscboland]

I used the North London Line for years when I worked in Wembley. Like a rural branch line. Nice comfy seats. Chronically unreliable, mind.

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

It was like a rural branch line and it had what are often seen as the most comfortable suburban trains in London. Not now, however.

[@nathansvlog]

that 450 at 11:50 was most likely heading towards Windsor and Eton Riverside :)

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

Look out for my film about Kensington Olympia station as near the end it includes two sequences of super 8 film of R stock. This film will be online after 4th or 5th August 2012 (right now its only partially edited). Simon

[@richardjdbone]

That's early '90s security for you... Good old honesty policy.

[@connoroleary591]

Nice video. Thank you.

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

I have some 1990's footage of D and D stock at Wimbledon. It might include some BR trains, but even if so, not a lot. However I also have some lineside views from this area and this probably includes some BR emu's. Filming present day lineside scenes can be tricky because of the law courts nearby - they tend to dislike people with cameras being anywhere near to them.

[@alibootboy]

Love the COP stock / 501 pics!

[@Great_WesternTVFan]

I miss Celia Drummond and Phil Sayer at Richmond and on the whole South West rail network in general. Now they have the horrible slowed down Anne and Roger there now.

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

@robertmbishop btw, the annotation in the video was added after Mr Griser's posted his message; I was unsure when I made the film and alas got it wrong. It needed the film to go live for people to see it and suggest the correct train type. Simon

[@jayrap94]

I'd love to build a OO gauge or P4 exhibition model railway layout of Richmond Station covering the 1996 to 2017 South West Trains period one day. Only problem is the lack of ready to run and kit-built rolling stock. Well that and lack of funds and space. I'd cycle the rolling stock through periods of NSE livery to Stagecoach livery. The station design would have to remain one theme though so it wouldn't be strictly accurate, but it would be nice to run models of SWT, SIlverlink, Underground and Overground from over the years.

[@metadyneman]

Simon, the train at 5.34 is Definitely a Class 423 4-VEP just to clarify completely

[@vicsams4431]

I concur. Definitely a Class 423 4VEP. You can tell by the transverse luggage racks over the seats which are clearing visible in the carriage windows. This is unique. 4VEPs operated Waterloo to Reading.

[@harryelliott4310]

South West Trains Class 458

[@chriscboland]

Also, the old Bulleid 2-bils ran on the Reading service. Big windows and corridors. Best trains on the Southern Region. Retired around 1971.

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

I was 11 at the time and since I do not live in that area I never got to ride them.

[@ianhelps3749]

The 2 BIL units were replaced by 4 COR units , but they only ran on the Reading line for a couple of years before 4 CIG units were allocated.

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

@LondonTransportPhoto Thanks. Simon

[@RealCristiano]

5:33 I believe that is a Class 421 or 423 '4CIG' because of the wires on the front's placement

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

Thanks. Sorry but I find some of the Southern EMU's too similar to tell them apart. Merseyside (and Tyneside) third rail electric trains are (were) less confusing.

[@RealCristiano]

@@CitytransportInfoplus It's okay I get them mixed up too quite often lol

[@vicsams4431]

Sorry. It is definitely a Class 423 4VEP. Easiest way to tell, is they were unique in having transverse luggage racks along the backs of the seats. These are clearly visible in the windows. 4VEPs worked Waterloo to Reading. I don't think Class 421 4CIGs ever worked this route. They were usually on longer distance work to the south coast. Hope that helps

[@ds_e5202]

Oh how i love Celia Drummond announcements

[@metadyneman]

CO/CP stock.... brilliant mate.

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

my "Railway Contrasts Alongside North Road Kew" film includes some R stock... plus more

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

@hakc97isback Thanks for the offer. I added the comment about the law courts as a way of alerting people to them. I filmed there at a weekend when the courts were closed.

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

@collieultimo Thanks. But it is too soon for film to be appreciated by archivists. Maybe in 10 years from now, when things are different again. Simon

[@oludotunjohnshowemimo434]

No more D Stock on District Line now that S7 stock has taken over.

[@harryelliott4310]

South West Trains Class 450

[@harryelliott4310]

Richmond London Trains Station 🚉

[@MrGriser]

@robertmbishop Yes your right sorry my mistake I can tell by the doors being situated between each and every seat.

[@digitalramyun]

What would be the class of unit, heading westbound behind the 455 at 3:23 into this video? I lived along the Waterloo-Reading line from 1996-2003 (and very close to the line for much of that time), but I never remember seeing a unit like that on the route - it was always the 4CIGs and 4CEPs. Maybe it was heading up through Twickenham and Kingston?

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

***** I think you mean the slam door train. I'm sorry but I do not know.

[@martinlee6223]

those units were known as 2HAP. it was not unknown for one of these units to be attached to a 4GIG or VEP unit to cover a failure.

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

+Martin Lee Thanks. I'm from north of the river and the ways of the Southern were and still are a mystery to me

[@hamjazz]

No--- 2 E P B

[@holyschmoe1466]

@@CitytransportInfoplus bloody northerner, haha, from the south of the river, miss that place

[@MrGriser]

@citytransportinfo At 5:34 that is actually a class 421!

[@harryelliott4310]

District Line D78 Tube Stock

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

@likeplaneboy NSE (Network SouthEast) was before the train operating companies. The short answer is that it was from the days of British Railways. Probably the best online place is learn more online is Wikipedia. Do a web search for "network southeast wikipedia" Simon

[@MetroTitanD78]

The approach speed definitely has been reduced from the early 90s, I'd forgotten how fast trains used to once arrive here

[@paulspeight8398]

🤔Ah yes I remember a District line hitting the stops at Ealing Broadway, Must have been late 60s early 70s? I was on the Central & just gone in the tea kettle room on that side and

[@paulspeight8398]

💥bang!

[@MetroTitanD78]

@paul speight A D Stock skidded at Richmond in the late 80s and ended up inside the station, the DM was almost written off because of it

[@paulspeight8398]

@@MetroTitanD78 This was an R stock visually not a lot of damage but couldn't stay as due out, Central side had hadraulic stops which would have made quite a mess 💦o💦 if hit. In them days you used your own judgement on speed, Now since Moorgate all speed controlled by timed train stops unless ATO.

[@TrainBusFan06]

Stupid health and safety init!!!

[@juansdf1]

Dear Simon: They are passengers of the trains, but customers of the services TfL offers. Dontcha think? ;)

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

Marketing, I suppose. But it could be worse... at one time the Euston - Watford service was named 'Harlequin'. I think it was meant to be after some stations on the line (copying 'Bakerloo' - Baker St & Waterloo) but canny passengers thought that it reflected the intended level of service instead. Harlequins are of course a type of jester or clown; an online dictionary defined the word in this way "A buffoon, dressed in party-coloured clothes, who plays tricks". The name didn't last very long!!

[@tundetheepic8631]

Notice the District Line has a Secondary colour to the face of the train, how come the others don’t have one?

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

Yes, District line D stock subsurface trains had a half red front. Also like this were Piccadilly line 1973 tube stock and Jubilee line 1983 tube stock trains - and one Central line 1962 tube stock train. I suspect this was to improve visibility for track workers, but am not 100% sure.

[@MrGriser]

Why do they call it Norht London Link I've always known it be called North London line anyway godd video like always!

[@samuelinit]

6:53 wow those trains look really awesome. What year were they?

[@Great_WesternTVFan]

Probably the R stock

[@jonniefc]

@04:53. Something tells me he took that turn off a bit fast maybe. look at the tilt on the class 313

[@blokeyos4733]

true

[@maxthegamerhd562]

also, i took a H22 bus and it took so lond to get to richmond station, heres a message for people who go to Richmond station for work or other stuff, DONT THINK THAT RICHMOND STATION IS NEAR RICHMOND. Thank u,soz for caps.

[@F2Aviation]

You're be right, the station is not "near" Richmond, its right in the middle of it hahah! :D Richmond Upon Thames is a BIG area though.

[@harryelliott4310]

Trains Station 🚉

[@Rocktecho]

I wish the trains still had slam doors. It takes way to long to get on and off the trains now you've got to wait for the light to come on and this can lead to missing amongst train or bus and the always glitch at shepperton so the doors close and you gotta go into the next carriage to get the fuck out

[@maxthegamerhd562]

I live near Richmond station

[@maxthegamerhd562]

NeelyFanForever I dont go to Richmond alot,so i dont know sorry:(

[@TerryTheNewsGirl]

No probs! X

[@maxthegamerhd562]

I dont go to Richmond alot im only just a kid :( sorry

[@bowlerstuff9589]

same But ive been there once

[@MatthewK421]

@@bowlerstuff9589 I’ve been their twice now I think

[@maxthegamerhd562]

*long *sorry

[@johnm9845]

I'm only watching because I used that station a lot at that time. Mystified why anyone else would be interested and why anyone bothered to post it- weird. Anyway I've had enough.

[@stateofflux7453]

john m It’s not that much of a stretch to understand that some people are legitimately interested in the railway infrastructure, and to see changes over time in architecture and other designs, systems and technology, and even also for some viewers to observe how people’s fashions were at the time ..

[@harryelliott4310]

South West Trains Class 455