What's Up With BadwaterVideos2009? [GMod ARG]

[@picture_panic]

thanks again for having me on! i'm excited to see what else badwater uploads, it's definitely one of the more interesting args i've seen

[@pizzaman2726]

the man the myth the legend is here yo

[@enzoaringo]

a pinned comment

[@russkipaloski]

pictrue vidoe

[@level2.99]

I'm 1 day late and sad, cause this video made me go in the past

[@jonistrigger2393]

Thanks for teach me a new thing, helped a lot!

[@kokomello2858]

That Engi's face is the face of a man who had to fight the whole enemy team without support

[@digitoxsynth1905]

Me when I'm alone on the frontlines against a medic-heavy combo, a rocket-jumping soldier, a demoknight, a scunt, an w+m1 pyro, a sniper, a battle engineer, and a dead ringer spy: "Where did everyone go???"

[@redxstudios2565]

i dont see someone with that explersion in this situation... fear yea but creepy teeth smile? nah

[@Woodland_Adventures]

Been there, done that. Weren't that hard.

[@tavishf.degroot8181]

LAZY PURPLE!

[@adolfgaming1761]

I know that guy. He’s me.

[@SwaggyG_2102]

I'm really liking this concept of Gmod ragdolls being alive and fearing the player. It's a new approach to Gmod ARGS that isn't just "Spooky black figure who is watching the player from the dark area in GM_Construct".

[@silvergaming3953]

*Pulls out remover tool and admin gun* "WAIT,IS NOT POSSIBLE!"

[@thewildruda6113]

Inanimate objects that are alive, hmm that’s new. “Shoves Toy Story in corner”

[@mskomeji]

I want a twist where the rag dolls attack a new player making machinima because they think it’s badwater or gunslinger

[@somerandomperson2768]

@@mskomeji yeah

[@skeletonking2501]

It really takes advantage of the fact that the player character is taking control of these characters, and is basically a god in a toy box

[@SugarooLM]

Fun fact: In the heavy's tv Machinima when the tv turns on, it's really hard to see but there is a black box covering the screen, implying that there was something on the tv badwater didn't want us to see.

[@RealMintyVr]

4:18 lol didnt even notice

[@esquivelalexander]

i noticed it and expected it to be a video overlaid on the tv to imply that the tv has been fixed

[@nismo3871]

Yeah

[@jacksongraham4672]

I read this comment before watching the video, and I expected the black box soldier weapon not a literal black box

[@SugarooLM]

@@esquivelalexander huh, maybe

[@biggestboss9289]

Not gonna lie, "Melon Man", "Teethineer", and "Badwater" would all be pretty dope bosses for Freak Fortress.

[@wheeze-son8421]

Really? Not doctor metal head?

[@scoundral2995]

Idk about badwater tho

[@biggestboss9289]

@@scoundral2995 Actually, Badwater would work if he incorporated Melon Man and Teethineer as part of his rage instead of three different Hales.

[@feelingsfeelings.2848]

Doctor metal head it's gonna be a great boss too ngl

[@Meelon_Head]

did some one say melon?

[@MrBread-bk8io]

When engi and melon man shaking hands, you can see that engineer's smile wears off with time

[@AbsoluteRatBastard]

My smile would probably wear off over time too because of how awkward and long that handshake was

[@cynthiaedith4122]

@@AbsoluteRatBastard or the cyclop's melon

[@Eckvd]

@@cynthiaedith4122 no melon man is cool

[@ebrayt4997]

engi knew something was happening and so did badwater, if you didnt notice the blu scouts corpse is being dragged and badwater walks toward it to either delete it or hide its body

[@patrickstarbed]

I checked, his smile didn't fade my guy.

[@theheatedoneplus2463]

Going from "hide" to "run" is actually terrifying. It's too late to hide, it knows where you are, you just have. To. Run

[@ignacya8048]

Well I think running still won't help

[@GunsAndAmmo3]

My farts are better than Richter overtime's

[@kieranabad-herrero3964]

@@GunsAndAmmo3bro what?

[@GunsAndAmmo3]

sorry i was trying to act like one of those weird bots idfk wtf i was on about@@kieranabad-herrero3964

[@theheatedoneplus2463]

@@GunsAndAmmo3 I'm...just confused now

[@tenacityxl]

I love how both Gunslinger and Badwater have handled their stories. It’s a very creative concept that they’re playing with that you don’t really see often. Creepypastas and ARGs of the past try to make the player afraid of the game, these two make it the other way around. The GAME is afraid of the PLAYER. I can’t wait for whatever these two do next.

[@skeletonking2501]

I mean after all, you are basically a god

[@Coffe_dough]

@@skeletonking2501 if the game wants to kill you, then you just uninstall it or destroy the console which you played that "cursed" game, completely shut down the "entrance" of the teleport that leads to your world.

[@themanwithoutaplan5611]

@@Coffe_dough But if you want to kill the game, there is nothing the game can do.

[@Coffe_dough]

@@themanwithoutaplan5611 yhea! exactly what i tried to say, it's ez for you to just, delete the game, and erase it's world whitout any problem.

[@mattiatf2]

@@Coffe_dough Ah yes, let me try *erasing it’s world* like this was our reality against Vavle’s reality

[@Jff7eleven]

Man when the scout started running i really felt bad Knowing the guy would just noclip and get him in an instant

[@quantumdisappointment5711]

Thats truly horrifying

[@morshulinton4112]

While Scout is very fast, every GMod player has access to the V key.

[@nicefloweytheoverseer7632]

@@morshulinton4112 true

[@stickpersonproductions6941]

The teethineer is scary. Not because of his appearance but because badwaters might have deformed and twisted his face. Imagine having that done to you, imagine all the pain he must be in

[@ploonette222]

Not only that but also getting punched in the face by a cyclops watermelon

[@FiksIIanzO]

Imagine being disfigured into a horrifying monstrosity and then forced into a role of the villain for your friends to be forced to "save the day" by mutilating you further. Jesus.

[@morshulinton4112]

Theory: The role that RED Scout plays in The Broken TV was originally going to be played by BLU Engineer, but after RED Scout witnessed production of The Broken TV, BLU Engineer was replaced and was mutilated into the Teethineer for another machinima.

[@SniperOnSunday]

This makes perfect sense Engineer would be a good fit for the role since his job is fixing things He would be the same color as the Blu Heavy

[@Grimaldus18]

He also uses the wrench,not scout

[@MorshuGayming]

That Morshu's a spy!

[@isthatawormwildbowreferenc4562]

@@MorshuGayming What!? The Morshu's a spy..?! Oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, I wasn't prepared! I forgot where my weapons were!

[@uwuLegacy]

this is absolutely what was supposed to happen, it wouldn't make sense for scout to have a wrench but engie seems logical.

[@laketownmusic]

I went in thinking “yeah it’s a Gunslingerpro2009 knockoff” but upon watching it, it’s actually fairly distinct from GSP and I really really like it

[@flame_warp]

They're definitely cut from the same cloth, but switching the POV from mostly the player to mostly the AIs does a lot to change up how the story is told and presented.

[@Zelurpio]

There is quite a chance they could be friends, they both like to torture/manipulate tf2 characters.

[@Mae4Ever]

@@Zelurpio when do we get ARGmod woth L4D2 characters?

[@Keedisgay]

Yeah and at least badwater2009 doesn’t upload every 30 years

[@metalgearzwei]

@@Mae4Ever workin on it give me like a week

[@GoldKnightProduction]

If I had to guess why these guys use TF2 characters as the only living ragdolls, it has to do with how TF2 ragdolls behave. When I first started playing with the TF2 models circa 09, they seemed to have a mind of their own. You would pick them up and freeze their head in place but their bodies kept moving. They would shimmy around and even *pull* the frozen points around the map. It was nothing like the half life and portal content I had been playing with for months.

[@dezmond588]

do you mean like even if you freeze them they will still move around the map?? Also what do you mean by Pull the freeze points

[@ronaldoeve5951]

Imagine if Badwater and gunslinger teamed up there would be carnage

[@Kanakravaatti]

maybe they are?

[@clockworkconcatenation375]

I like the idea that these two 2009 channels are related somehow or share a creator. Like the over arching lore is that in 2009 some cursed distribution of Gmod got released were the characters are alive.

[@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413]

Gunslingers way more cruel

[@gigacat9761]

@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 to be determined

[@ProGremlinPlayer]

That'd be the coolest gmod ARG crossover ever.

[@AtlasFox_]

The teetheneer looks like he's actually a custom model, if that's the case then I gotta give it to BadwaterVideos for making something that I found unsettling after seeing years worth of gmod content

[@Swordsoulreaver]

I think he just faceposed the engineer to the point where you couldn't see his face, but I'm not sure. I'll have to test to see if you can do that to the engineers face normally in gmod.

[@Alaachad]

sup

[@spinosaurus9518]

@@Swordsoulreaver you cant do it actually it only contorts the mouth and doesnt enlargen.

[@AtlasFox_]

@@Alaachad when the veiny is SUS! AMOGUSAMOGUS SHREEEE?!?!??!?!?!!!!! WEEEEEEEEEE

[@spinosaurus9518]

@@AtlasFox_ wtf

[@risingsun9595]

Interesting how once the scout starts getting dragged, both his picture in the bottom left and his ammo count change. His picture changes to that of the ragdoll in gmod and the ammo count goes to zero as he drops his gun.

[@yoylecaik]

finally someone noticed that and im a year late

[@MyUsersDark]

@@yoylecaik Richter noticed too, though

[@Garthebarbarian]

@@MyUsersDark sorry for the late reply, but they didn't seem to notice them losing their ammo as they got frozen and turned into a ragdoll for badwaters personal pleasure

[@SuperWiiBros08]

I think Passage is actually how Scout got into BadWater's map from the first TF2 video

[@sraczkens5518]

It makes more sens in Richter's theory tho

[@pauldusenbro7484]

hi random checkmark man

[@pauldusenbro7484]

hi random checkmark man

[@Squat2P]

How are you here?

[@plushluigi7417]

And then the cycle repeats

[@RagingInsomniac]

Gotta love how the term ARG went from solving a bunch of puzzles, to this.

[@awesomehazimex7410]

yeah...this is more of an online web series with an interesting plot (kinda like petscop). Im not saying they're bad they're really nice its just the fact that the term arg is used wrongly

[@felipelazcano1337]

@@awesomehazimex7410 Nah, many youtube series classified as "ARGs" wouldn't be what they are if it is following such strict terms, after all basically all ARGs are just KZbin series with a grain of some real life material to make the "dread" factor feel more close to us, leading to an experience where we could be there, and that's the deal with gmod ARGs, we're actually the most important part of the ARG, solving out what happened in each one of these series, in a game that we played, making these videos feel more close to our memories and fears about playinf gmod.

[@galiasvirtual4078]

Is an ARG when viewers can interact with the series and can change the development of the story, in this case, the Q&A.

[@realskhk]

thanks to gmod community

[@Yohan99999]

The term you should use is "unfiction"

[@DaRkLoRdZoRc]

Something I feel warrants mentioning is that, after being 'coerced' into beating Teethineer's deformed skull in, Melon Man seems to sort of disobey: His punches don't seem like they have as much weight to them. Look at the initial slug to Teethineer's face. It has follow-through. It connects with a metallic clank and is strong enough to knock Teethineer over. After he's forced to continue the beating, though, the hitsound changes to a much quieter noise, and Melon Man's punches are noticeably quicker and less forceful. He can't bring himself to really hurt Teethineer, so he's not whaling on him. He's just jabbing. It seems to still hurt, but the fact of the matter is that Teethineer survives and has no lasting injuries. Too bad Teethineer still seems pissed off over it, seeing how he helps Dr. Metalhead afterwards to make a super-Soldier specifically to kill Melon Man, and unlike Melon Man, Teethineer doesn't seem hesitant about it at all.

[@PK-Radio]

If this is what badwater and gunslinger's characters go through Imagine what happens to eltorro64rus's characters

[@Cocarr0.0]

I'd have the time of my life if i was a character in a batshit insane Gmod animation, idk 'bout you

[@xninewxw7559]

@@Cocarr0.0 your body will be in constant pain

[@Cocarr0.0]

@@xninewxw7559 okay fair

[@MelRosewood]

*O h d e a r*

[@eevee_mon]

imagine what happens to stblackst's ragdolls

[@naper52]

it felt like that “melon man” and “teethineer” were friends and he didn’t want to beat up his friend anyways great video

[@Gangiwangy]

Yeah,melonman just punched teethineer since he doesn't want to get removed

[@mateoochoa6300]

I thought that it was sympathy from "melon man" knowing the pain "teethineer" was in, being contorted in that way, and didn't want to hurt him more. But, all the ideas here do make sense.

[@tehbigb]

not all characters are friends when they feel sympathy for one another

[@naper52]

@@tehbigb I respect your statement but in “Melonman to the rescue” he literally explodes multiple characters

[@Axodus]

@@naper52 the player did that, the demoman doesn't have the natural ability to throw exploding melons, the player only animated it to look like the demoman did it, there's a difference between perceiving an act of violence and actually commiting one..

[@youknowwho5251]

I think the door that Scout comes through in "The Broken TV" is the same type of door that we see in "Passage". This could mean that Badwater, knowing that these doors might lead somewhere, might've gone through the one in Sawmill to find the Scout after he escaped. And plus, we seen Badwater dragging a ragdoll through the white void, so it's safe to say that badwater acknowledges it.

[@mr.xavior]

It's possible that Scout wasn't saved by a different entity, but instead he was forced to star in another one of Badwater's machinima. Badwater may have placed the Scout on the bench before the filming of his next video, and Scout woke up and escaped before he could be stopped. As for the radio message, it's possible that there are other sentient beings that are trying to help him.

[@scoundral2995]

A stretch but it could be multiple characters who escaped badwater or many other’s game

[@venezolanoanimatios5863]

Can be another player like a hacker or something, that rivals with badwater control, but he or she need to be careful to not be discover, or a Ragdoll that it programming or character give it the power to interfere with badwater in such a matter, maybe Gman, since the white void from half life is a place where the player have never be able to enter, a least not in games..

[@venezolanoanimatios5863]

@@scoundral2995 or players that want tp stop this.

[@louizeandrei]

@@scoundral2995 I think it may have been the BLU Heavy that got removed, but somehow is still lingering inside the game, saving the scout in that video

[@coca-clown]

i like to imagine that the radio prop itself is sentient and not really a way of communication for another player or living ragdoll. To me it calls back to Portal 2 and how almost everything in Aperture Science has some form of sentience and feelings, from the turrets, to the Weighted Storage Cubes, to even the wall panels being shown to having a mind of their own at several points of the game.

[@darkstar2682]

Another thing I love is that the movement is so jerky until the characters move, they seem very smooth and life like

[@discountpirateguy6783]

Damn its nice to see hes making another one of these, if you ask me the way he makes these videos just always make them so much more interesting and he actually shows unique ones instead of "generic pitch black figure in gm_construct dark room for the 80th time"

[@svijj_]

Yeah, I want to see more sentient ragdolls. Perhaps even some of them revolting against the player?

[@wheeze-son8421]

You’re right let’s try it again for the 81th time

[@linktheboss6429]

Yup would've said it myself.

[@tonypeppermint5329]

Yep.

[@rezetnacht3136]

Agreed

[@QWERTY708100]

A note: The oldest version of gm_construct is purely white with some other things inside the void.

[@sirsnausages2164]

Actually, that's Flatgrass, or none of the maps at all

[@firemaker1258]

That map was more of a hub for hl2 maps.

[@angryworkbenchproductions8183]

the matrix lol

[@Daniel-wu6pl]

@@sirsnausages2164 thats not what their talking about

[@Daniel-wu6pl]

@@firemaker1258 thats not what their talking about

[@xdarin_]

I love how smooth the animations for living ragdolls are. It just looks so good. The people behind this definitely know what they're doing, and they are at least good at animating in gmod.

[@Oden-gp8xu]

Something also admirable is that it isn’t just hinting at the player torturing the characters but that something is also hinted at trying to aid them... so it isn’t seemingly absolutely hopeless

[@wheeze-son8421]

It still seems to suck for melon man

[@tylerdonneky5389]

I'd kill for dis.im lonely

[@blakegunner5841]

aid them?

[@finger1868]

@@blakegunner5841 help them

[@Da-choppa]

So, player that is on gmod, horrible and threatens the rag dolls, Then the player who used scout, maybe he is trying to help them, hence why red scout is alive

[@MattiaSinisi]

The fact that scout can read hexadecimal makes sense because he is, after all, an artificial intelligence

[@imthecoolestguyalive]

One of the things I admire about videos like these is that the horror takes place in the daytime. It's easy to make something eerie, when the events transpire in an enclosed space, and/or in the darkness. But a good portion of these videos are out in broad daylight... With pretty much nobody but the helpless Gmod ragdolls and Badwater. That scene of Scout walking up to a motionless Sniper, and receiving no response is legitimately some real nightmare fuel. It's bright and sunny. His friend is right there. But he's better off running away, than staying out here. It's genuinely scary as balls.

[@CaptainTak]

I think the area the red scout ends up may be some sort of "Landfill" where things go after being removed, given the piles of random hl2 props everywhere.

[@gristCollector]

The problem with this is that the BLU Heavy isn't there as well... Maybe he is around there somewhere, but just not in the video?

[@biggiecheese3753]

I have an idea, maybe Red Scout wasn't actually teleported away, and just moved to there by Badwatervids as a prop for a future Melon-man video, while Blu Heavy was deleted. Or maybe the Red Scout was just placed there to rot for a punishment by Badwatervids for running away, and Badwater was coming to place the Blu Scout there for moving without permission during The first Melon-Man video

[@gristCollector]

@@biggiecheese3753 This is very plausible. We should keep watch for the upcoming uploads

[@Just_Rxbin]

have you watched Loki? cause this is the exact premise.

[@quantumblauthor7300]

I think the floating door represents the spawnpoint for the player, where they would "enter" the game

[@DoctorLalve]

Atleast they don't dance yet

[@Targon117]

I understood that reference.

[@hatty4142]

i loved you video on tf2 😂

[@waliddreemurr340]

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee- **explosions**

[@guilhermef.cabral8252]

have you ever thought about how your ragdolls pass ? they suffer bruh lol

[@pauldusenbro7484]

hi random checkmark man

[@Raiden0944]

Imagine as a tf2 npc roaming around and seeing a Gmod KZbinr Player spotting you and later on makes you a ragdoll for his video and you manage to escape and be saved by some kind of bug.

[@gamerofgamers6837]

"If i had a Nickle for every time a machinima creator messed with ragdolls that are also alive, I'd have two nickel's. Which isn't a lot but its weird that it happened twice."

[@dehydrated1]

Sussy arg

[@handletemplate]

argmogus

[@easternestal4181]

Doof

[@N8-Feds]

Sus

[@zipster6393]

sense this dude started around the time he made the gunslingerpro2009 video, it could be one of richters fans taking inspiration from gunslinger. another connection is that both gunslinger and badwater both have "2009" at the end of their names

[@coconutfredenjoyer2863]

Theory: Badwater and Gunslinger are just Richter's alts that he made to make more unique ARGs after getting bored of the constant stream of GM_Construct Dark Room ones. Edit: JESUS CHRIST GUYS I MADE THIS COMMENT AS A JOKE

[@Notcaptainobvious]

100%

[@xX_Delirex_Xx]

It's possible

[@breadsqueeze27]

it literaly makes sense, both of them have the same idea of the game being afraid of the player, both of them are TF2 based, And both of them have simillar names: "(TF2namehere)videos/pro2009"

[@xX_Delirex_Xx]

@@breadsqueeze27 also they both had only 31 or 80 subs when he started making the video

[@breadsqueeze27]

@@xX_Delirex_Xx Yep

[@Inferno144]

This man is truly a damn good animator. The whole first person scene with the red scout was amazing. How Scout turned the radio and how his hand stopped when thinking about turning it off. His head tilt at the very out of place Blu Sniper. Its just damn good.

[@punksai7307]

Sharing my ideas: He honestly just deleted the scout but that didn't kill him. he loaded him back into the world and thats when we see him. He was probally working on a new machinima. seeing as hes used the joke of there being a door but no dooryway before in the first video and he was afk or the likes. so the gaurdian was warning him when he came back

[@jimmyspace5839]

I think the lumberyard full of random stuff was the scouts perspective after being deleted, inside of the prop gun; You can see the deleted couch from the beginning as well as some other stuff.

[@k.okirbe]

i like the differences between the two as badwater seems to be an aspiring freak creator (people like kugawatten) while gunslingerpro is the one who is an aspiring general gmod machinima creator. the narrative difference is that while gunslinger's intentions have been to torture and create machinimas while also trying to hide that their alive, badwater has not entirely trying to torture but trying to get them to make his machinamas better while torture being a side affect

[@quantumdisappointment5711]

I can't fully remember which Kirby game that pfp is from. mass attack?

[@k.okirbe]

@@quantumdisappointment5711 its a plasma wisp from kirby super star (8 games in one) i think its the one found in milky way on the cave planet

[@quantumdisappointment5711]

@@k.okirbe ah i did remember it was a plasma wisp.... Mass attack was fun.....

[@k.okirbe]

@@quantumdisappointment5711 i miss mass attack

[@alicorn3924]

I like this topic change, from ARG to Kirby, ist so beautiful, even the Kaiser would cry.

[@maruwhilby4078]

Not sure if this idea has been tossed or not, but I think I know how RED Scout survived the TV episode. Scout wasn't hit with the Remover, but rather a Duplicator, then deleted. The reason he seems more confused than scared when he wakes up is because the version of him that was pasted doesn't remember being deleted as it hadn't happened yet. To him, he possibly just woke up from a strange nightmare.

[@xenophanessonic821]

Shadow figures: haunts Gunslinger and Badwater Gunslinger and Badwater: *doom music starts playing*

[@ProdByEntomo]

Best comment I have seen so far

[@Anonymous-73]

YOU PICKED THE WRONG HOUSE FOOL

[@user-ez4ir9rv1k]

@@Anonymous-73 YOU PICKED THE WRONG GMOD USER FOOL!

[@wawayalert]

Shadow: Why do I hear boss music? Shadow: *And also guns cocking?*

[@AbsoluteRatBastard]

2 SHADOW FIGURES GON' DIE TONIGHT

[@ambi_cc8464]

“I’m a bit exited” -Conlang critic himself

[@luckyrocko]

@@pitiantifriz aren’t we all exited?

[@KrawTal]

There is a weird channel named william talavera de moraes , please make a review of this channel....

[@dead_acc_t]

me to

[@ambi_cc8464]

@@KrawTal this isn’t overtime’s comment

[@KrawTal]

@@ambi_cc8464 sorry

[@beyond_voided5097]

One thing that makes this even better is the lack of Jumpscares, they are such an overused trope in horror that is rarely ditched for something even more unsettling.

[@TheGonkerer]

I think these types of ARGs end up being a genre if more people get inspired to make their own version.

[@venezolanoanimatios5863]

That can happen

[@Mae4Ever]

It’s a Local 58 scenario. Copy cat comes in, suddenly wants to make their own identity.

[@venezolanoanimatios5863]

@@Mae4Ever umm, seems like it, and what is exactly a local 58 scenario (it remind me to a SCP situation for some reason) and by the way, BEA-utiful gothic croc, ya have any spare cigarette?

[@gabbyn.3049]

@@venezolanoanimatios5863 Its one of the ARG classics on KZbin. The channel is called Local58 and i suggest you taking a look for yourself.

[@dek5775]

It's all fun and games till suddenly their animation get super realistic

[@R77ification]

I feel that at some point Badwater will get 'lazy' and simply force the characters to act on their own instead of moving them himself. Like he did to Melonman. Less effort from his part but the animations will be more impressive.

[@SomeD00D01]

Yessir

[@april8947]

@@R77ification all fun and games until his freind asks how he does it

[@paperhat_boi]

@@april8947 "well.."

[@CandyPancakeLover]

@@paperhat_boi *pulls out delete tool and pulse rifle*

[@azzyiseternal4745]

one thing i should point out about these characters being sentient is how the soldier reacts to being the way he is. showing he's in some form of excruciating pain. could the teethineer feel this way too? having his face contorted and warped to only be nothing but a gaping mouth with teeth?

[@apchistuz]

Teethineer is just literally crying laughing emoji

[@notus299]

lol just realized that

[@kw4584]

Ikr

[@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398]

*_He is in great pain, please help him_*

[@damienmaymdien6367]

😂

[@kayagorzan]

Yes indeed

[@snatcher2592]

Pocket dimensions, last minute teleport, white rooms, Could the Gman be trying to help?

[@enzonline8896]

would be cool tho

[@googleman2898]

g man ragdol could be and the numbers that come from the radio are hl2 sounds its posible

[@humankerbal3623]

plot twist: shadow man is good guy?!!?111?1?!1

[@atwat6157]

prob gmod9fan’s gman if the two are connected

[@wheeze-son8421]

That actually makes sense

[@castle9165]

The numbers begin said by the radio are so cool. It's clearly Unicode/ASCII for people who know comp sci (though the hex bit is harder to get). The last message was especially good, since it was so clearly RUN, due to the differences between the numbers and the repeated three letter pattern.

[@breadmilkYT]

"Badwater seems to have a vendetta against scouts" Ah so he's the good guy

[@gullible1137]

A bone to pick with scouts

[@ghhn4505]

If that limegreen scunt on 2fort just left him a medkit, none of this would have happened

[@darkuscarlet]

So is gunslinger, considering his hatred for Sniper and Spy. And I say this as an often sniper player - I know what we've done.

[@breadmilkYT]

@@darkuscarlet yeah. As a fellow sniper player ill say it until I'm dead but sniper objectively makes the game worse

[@t24gamer]

At least I’m a pyro main most of the time

[@allbankbasalisk___2005]

The teethineer looks like a tf2 freak. Also I feel like this is gonna end with badwater getting "removed"

[@kynto]

It may as well be a TF2 freak

[@StrategicCat]

@@kynto yea i wanted to bring up these look like an inspiration from old gmod freak videos

[@EvilSantaTheTrue]

WRzrlEKdykekydzlydzyk

[@Puppyjuan_1970]

At this point, I think the player is a god-like freak

[@mr.glitchyypants8108]

Oh definetly melon man and teethineer are freaks related, but the problem is the most freaks came around 2010 inspired from the Panis Cupcake premis unless there is another reason for this such as earlier machinimas not giving names to freaks such as melon man or I may be wrong and freaks started out since TF2

[@skrabman]

the whole changing to "run" thing for the radio would make sense because it gets louder so the scout can hear it

[@TerminalConcret]

11:33 what makes this even worse is the fact that if the characters all want to escape the torment together, melon man is being forced to beat up his already disfigured friend

[@TheShmileyDawg]

I am SO glad this came up on my feed right after I smoked a bowl

[@cream3281]

I think Scout's HUD is just how the sentient ragdolls see, and if it were a player that would mean they're playing TF2, which is impossible considering Badwater clearly has the Phsygun and other GMod props

[@wheeze-son8421]

So would the hl2 ragdolls see a hl2 hud?

[@cream3281]

@@wheeze-son8421 Yeah probably lmao

[@MatthewT394]

@@cream3281 but he had the gun like a player was holding it, you can't just replicate that.

[@MatthewT394]

hell, you could tell it was a ragdoll if they did

[@coca-clown]

i seriously adore the touch of the Scout having the TF2 hud in his perspective, it gives me the impression that the player is more of an invader interrupting the day-to-day lives of the characters that inhabit whatever map they load.

[@letricstudios]

Something I just realized about gunslingerpro2009 is that in the lore of tf2 pyro and engineer are freinds. Pyro even has a weapon that can take of sappers from his build and you know what? A pyro NEVER made an appearance in his videos

[@biggiecheese3753]

Pyro's lines are muffled. Gunslinger probably knows that using the Pyro lines plus the quality of the video's sound wouldn't fit well.

[@MemeWasNotTaken]

@@biggiecheese3753 I mean they don’t really talk in these videos so it’s possible something else is going on since we have seen everyone else

[@alyx3154]

@@MemeWasNotTaken They do, check Gunslingerpro's latest video, Heavy says "Engineer is credit to team" and "Yes you are good friend"

[@MemeWasNotTaken]

@@alyx3154 Huh, guess I was wrong

[@mobiuq3282]

6:50 you can spot a someone in the background behind the wave of blue team, presumably bad water

[@Black_Void69]

Can’t believe he miss that

[@manboy4720]

i like how they all portray the gmod player as this terrifying, eldritch puppeteering demon.

[@theasexualidiot4803]

I mean he is a literal god…

[@SniperOnSunday]

Maybe I am a monster...

[@SwaggyG_2102]

One thing I noticed about BadWater is how the story is executed and the characters within it. The story seems to take a "Pulp Fiction" approach, where despite focusing on different characters throughout the videos, the story still remains somewhat the same. That being the omnipotent being that is the player and how he uses these characters to his own whim as means for entertainment.

[@caper963]

Me too. But I hope the ragdolls will "live" in less obvious way like in last gunslingerpro2009 video. His channel became meme and entire situation looks like this now: "oh look, my ragdolls are alive and talk by themself. Better no one see talking heavy, so I'm gonna upload it on KZbin".

[@wheeze-son8421]

@@caper963please restate that

[@caper963]

@@wheeze-son8421 Sorry, what do you mean ?

[@wheeze-son8421]

@@caper963 your entire reply

[@PeptoAbismol]

@@caper963 no seriously, restate your reply. i have no idea what you’re trying to say here.

[@estlin2001]

I'm sorry but I can't take these super seriously, the heavy screaming as he gets deleted is just hilarious to me.

[@Margen67]

Kiwis need HUGS and CUDDLES

[@nottelling8129]

If I ever made an ARG with living ragdolls, I would do things that aren’t so evil

[@lambda-m1676]

just have fun, let them swim n get rides. if you delete them, make sure to save them as dupes so their spirits will stay on the dupes temporarily

[@CindyDijkema]

i wouldnt make a giant disco

[@Bomp..]

Treat them good then if you wanna make a video then they will most likely agree to it

[@korbinslookingglass5467]

Other ARGs: aaaaaaaaaaaa spooky dark man Badwater and Gunslinger: *I AM GOD*

[@loldie6406]

3:29 "This is disgusting. This is awful in every way. If I could kill it, I would. But I legally can't. *But I've considered it"*

[@nuclearsummer7796]

In my opinion I think the white void is supposed to be unallocated memory for the source engine and is only a temporary place to hide because soon something will load there. Though maybe I'm look too far into it, but that's just my perspective as a programmer

[@wheeze-son8421]

Shit, we got programmers on this ARG

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

unallocated memory in a 2009 GMod video? yeah, right!

[@alaska76-o5u]

maybe additional memory was added by a virus that had got into the game, a virus trying to save the red scout

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

@@alaska76-o5u so you're saying that Badwater literally downloaded more RAM?

[@alaska76-o5u]

@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan Download new RAM 2009 no virus

[@LowLifeAM]

I think the unknown guardian angel to the scout is the TF2 player who was originally controlling him on sawmill, after the scout was grabbed, the player lost control of him but is still capable of opening the pause menu to disconnect him from the server and place him in another map before he could be deleted by the GMOD animator. Since the video with heavy being deleted is from the scouts perspective, we don’t get a hud nor any user interfaces we are familiar with, just a sudden visual distortion. Although I don’t have an explanation for how he’d be able to transmit messages through the radio, maybe he also has Garry’s mod on steam, but since the GMOD animator is probably playing single player, all he can do is send messages through the radio, among other yet to be seen ways to manipulate others games. in a ARG where game characters are sentient I don’t think it’s hard to imagine someone somehow being capable of influencing other peoples single player games. I like this dueling forces trope since clearly the GMOD animator dislikes scouts, while the TF2 player plays as scout, it’d be reasonable to say he likes scout. So I’d make sense if he’d try to save his favorite mercenary.

[@TippedScale]

Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of the Ragdolls being alivr

[@honeybeesami6454]

​@@TippedScalewhile yes, it also makes the most sense. Try and think of a different explanation for who or what the guardian angel is, I bet you can't.

[@Dogeasdf]

fun fact: The run theory at the end is proven true due to Badwater uploading a video called "Sanctuary". Sadly, Scout wasn't in the haven for long. He then accidentally finds an exit to the set for "Melonman vs. The Teethineer". He is then found by Badwater and put into the next set. However, it appears Badwater has forgotten to anchor Scout, he then escapes and gets into the garage. He entered the room in the middle, which is pitch black, Badwater then finds him there. But doesn't attack him, instead, he just went away. After that, he finds a white orb. That is it.

[@muffy2060]

That one of the scout crawling in the background had me terrified, for a long time I didnt felt that way

[@AgressivePigeon]

Man I'm so happy these things are coming back, makes me feel like I'm back in the golden oldschool Gmod / TF2 era.

[@marianoporterozapater1622]

Yeah

[@palomaelegante]

Hi, i'm a fancy pigeon

[@Margen67]

Pigeons need HUGS

[@brickthecreator777]

"YOU MUST RIDE" Scout: WOOO YEAHH RIDING A HORSE YEAH THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!

[@radiantdream5523]

That Engie pic's got me gearing up for a particularly spicy ARG.

[@Bunny_named_Pointy]

Enginner after building an nest for the 103818382282818282th time and a spy saps it again

[@samjetstream9]

@@Bunny_named_Pointy he looks like a amnesia monster

[@xX_Delirex_Xx]

@@samjetstream9 true

[@eur0be4t3r]

@@samjetstream9 or a relative of Vagineer

[@CrabulousYT]

Its boring, the engi is literally a hero in it

[@TerryMeme]

Good stuff, I gotta say, I love how much "Melon man" and "Teethineer" remind me of those old Gmod freaks like cupcake and brutal sniper. (INB4 they are added to Freak Fortress) I'm curious on where this will be heading, Keep up the great work can't wait to see what other things you have in store!

[@TheDUNKIeosteus]

My theory as to how scout survived is that Bad water forgot to delete another model of the red scout in that map with the dead sniper.

[@ZiozoneEmperor]

i honestly would not mind having picturesinpanavision explain more math stuffs or that he made his own videos doing so, i kinda like his voice

[@GMilkMan]

I don’t think BadWater tried to Delete Red Scout but just moved him to another area since we can see many props there it’s probably where BadWater stores props and “Actors”

[@northstar1727]

Then what happendd to the blue heavy?

[@DynoSkrimisher]

This got me thinking... What if all the times we made machinima, all the things we were messing with were living...? Like think about it, you spawn in a model and you muck around with it... depending on what you do, it's gonna like or despise you.

[@rozemorgaine1886]

Never realized how perfect Gmod could be for ARGs. It already has an isolated feel when playing in single player. I bet there's some real clever ways to play off of that.

[@jameshibberd5134]

Plus, GMOD is essentially a mix of all source games, meaning you can have almost anything happen. For example, for all we know it could've been the Gman to save red scout. Hell, even someone with a portal gun.

[@DoorP3]

@@jameshibberd5134 thats kind of true

[@DoorP3]

@@jameshibberd5134 like g-man appears in a portal and chell in another while one (chell) is trying to escape badwater (player) And g-man tries to help rs (red scout)

[@zombiesalmon4997]

God i love this concept. I thought it was gonna be a gunslinger rip off but it is its own style and story. Good stuff. I think it’d be kinda cool if we had a series where the player treats the characters well and acts more like a god than a dictator. Dunno how that’d work but it could work.

[@lambda-m1676]

this time Darkrooms Guy is bad

[@DaveMiller6042]

A thing to note that the teethineer's sounds are all distorted except his screams

[@SwaggyG_2102]

Honestly, I don't think that Melon-Man was hesitant to punch the Teethineer, but rather, was looking at the player to know what to do next. Kinda like how an actor would look off-screen towards the person who holds the cards with the script on them.

[@fugo2901]

I see you literally everywhere

[@MediumKeyCubbage]

I would love for a gmod ARG where the player interacts with the ragdolls/npcs in a friendly way and find a way to "free them" from whats keeping them stuck in gmod, and the only way to free them is by uninstalling the game. the player doesnt want to because he gathered so many memories making machinimas with them until they convince the player to uninstall gmod to set them free. this would get a cool take on gmod ARGs where there is nothing disturbing or freaky. but rather fun

[@YummyMelonz]

I was thinkin about that

[@Epicboy099]

That would be interesting.

[@thedudewithasanspfp]

cool.

[@tonytrainwreck9316]

I feel like Badwater is actually imbuing souls into these characters somehow, as with how the scout seems to persistently try and get away. The blue and red scouts, they're the same person. How come there's never multiple scouts in the machinimas? Same guy

[@Mangles-macro-channel]

Theory: The entity that protected Scout is Gmod itself

[@alicorn3924]

So that implies god vs god? Because the players are basically while GMod is like the kind, rewarding god that wants everyone to live their lives without much pain from the other gods.

[@alicorn3924]

And the players don't want that as they want their machinimas to finish before they could release the sentient ragdolls from their grasp.

[@Quaternality]

What if its Garry Newman

[@YummyMelonz]

@@Quaternality you have a point, Garry could've seen that the ragdolls are being tortured and he is trying to save Them.

[@nicefloweytheoverseer7632]

What if it's GMan?

[@sibottle]

This arg really just feels like a series. It doesn't try to hide that it's an arg, it's not nightmare fuel, and the story reveals itself later in the arg.

[@Skelleton54]

at 10:17, melon man said "ill beat you so hard you'll have a twitch" and then teethineer twitches after the last punch

[@Punykirby]

I feel like its entirely possible that instead of something teleporting Scout to where he ends up, it was actually Badwater, who had recently shot a new movie, hence the Blue Sniper Ragdoll, and he was possibly shooting a different scene in the map, about to return, which is when the Radio turns on to speak to him

[@charmyzard]

Melonman: *drunk noises* KZbin caps: *[Music]* Ah yes, truly a muscial masterpiece for our time!

[@CindyDijkema]

you know that song by Beethoven that goes: "ayehuh- haye *burp* "

[@Theguywhoasked1177]

After watching emesis blue, the pool that soldier was being dropped in looked like an old version of the respawn machine

[@BlackBerry-uq4oc]

My theory: after the ending of the broken tv machinima, scout wasn’t saved by anyone, but was teleported to the “spawn menu” dimention, cuz in there we can see a lot of props and the same wheel barrow then theethgineer uses in the latest video. I think that the radio told scout to run because “badwater” was gonna spawn him through the spawn menu.

[@williambutcher7429]

“Whos the external force who saved scout” it was melon man, hes so cool.

[@willem6605]

What's interesting about the scene where Melonman beats up Teethineer, the punches look almost...held back. They're not very forceful (although they sound forceful, with the sounds effects played when he jabs teethineer straight on in the face), like he wants to stop himself but fears too much for his own life.

[@RpgBlasterRpg]

22:49 That level of dedication to hunt down a sentient ragdoll is pretty much Gunslingerpro2009

[@StormTeeVee]

Imagine how eltorro64rus's ragdolls must feel

[@chinsphere]

A fate worse than hell

[@mollyOS420]

Well, Luigi doesn't seem to mind being placed in random spots.

[@gabrielvids9579]

youre right lol

[@Chuckfng]

Oh god

[@Chuckfng]

Imagine how that pyro with the duck head from st black st felt

[@cesarecesare9139]

I like to think that: -Living characters are able to record their life. -Badwater knows this and is uploading scout's story. I like to think that the wasn't saved by an entity but instead by badwater himself that wanted to make a second plot out of the scout trying to escape

[@Goaty_1]

After Melon-Man punches Teethineer, it becomes extremely smooth movement as if they're now doing it without the player's control; but they still have to obey or else they get deleted. You can tell because Melon-Man keeps looking at the player as he's punching Teethineer as if he's saying "Am I doing this right?"

[@ummeko]

more like "do i really have to"

[@possum0451]

I think it is really weird how Melon-Man just decides to beat him up which is an overreaction of a punishment in my opinion. I mean, Teethineer only ate some of Engineer’s stuff.

[@MailMainbutnot]

@@possum0451 it just starts like that first his teacup then his haybales (he's texan so i was playing into the stereotype) then his car then his house

[@r9ue]

MELON edit: ok that handshake has been going on for too long now

[@NuckleChuts0]

4:24 you can realize right here that heavy’s gun is on the floor almost proving that bad water had to take it away from him proving that he is alive before episode 3

[@gackyboi931]

Who touched sasha?

[@sirbriskets]

Watching these videos made me realize that, you are a literal flying entity capable of doing god level things like spawning people or spawning objects when you’re playing gmod

[@Bootystank99659]

Like the sims

[@bossbabyfunnymoments6187]

16:00 “you must ride” “Run” *im getting mixed feelings if I should ride or run*

[@Xenon_XTH]

Or hide?

[@Dab-studios]

Or dide

[@comrad_mihail]

These videos gave me some thoughts... Just imagine how scared you would be if you suddenly found yourself in a familiar or not place where there is no one but an almighty player with nstrumnts and he plays with you and the corpses of your friends forcing you to play funny absurd scenes. That's what the horror part of these ARGS is built on. I'm not a timid man, but this thing... It scares me

[@8od0tmobile81]

I wanna see a reverse ARG gmod, basically where it says its an ARG, but looks like it isn't, but more in depth, it's actually an ARG

[@Vincent654]

Imagine a channel with more than 50 videos of normal gameplay, but somehow there is an ARG ultra hidden, that would be epic

[@PeptoAbismol]

i wish i was creative enough to pull something like this off

[@kynto]

@Helva neat idea

[@8od0tmobile81]

@Helva darkrp "server" where everyone is in their bases and stuff, where there is a lot of links leading to random stuff, but one link is actually a secret unlinked video, which actually looks like an arg, but isn't, but there is another link hidden in there, which leads to the "actual" arg, then it actually isn't, but it somehow leads to another account, which has nothing to do with it, but there is a comment, which is from the actual arg, which is normal, then it leads to the ACTUAL arg Mind games.

[@yo_tengo_una_boca6764]

@@Vincent654 hamza khali reference lol but for real i think he just embraced the arg at this point

[@_moonlightmelody_]

Let’s just say I’m hyped

[@tomm7481]

Who isnt

[@xX_Delirex_Xx]

@@tomm7481 Probably people who disliked

[@tomm7481]

@@xX_Delirex_Xx what why

[@xX_Delirex_Xx]

@@tomm7481 i don't know. They havent even watched the video

[@alpha_alex7253]

@@xX_Delirex_Xx its bots if you didnt know