Revisiting Badwatervideos2009 [GMod ARG]

[@PearoIGuess]

I feel like him getting mad at the saws isn't even scripted, i mean, who hasn't been mad at wheels in gmod before?

[@what-jj3vv]

I didnt even knew how to use wheels

[@Kevin-le2mg]

To this day i still cant figure out how to use wheels

[@xdarin_]

you gotta use the "make persistent" thingy in the context menu it just makes your life easier

[@Mr.beanuwu]

I haven’t play gmod but using stuff like portal that use old source I definitely think you would get mad not the portal line don’t take that out off context

[@theAMman-rf8he]

JOE BIDEN

[@itzpeanut9904]

badwatervideos is getting to the point in the arg where most of the build up is done and world building is finished. meaning some fun stuff is about to happen with this

[@Keedisgay]

I like your pfp. It reminds me of the good old days.

[@thatfurrygamer1476]

To be honest it’s nice seeing the products that he is making is gmod most creators would just upload the spooky stuff but badwaters actual lets things play out

[@itzpeanut9904]

@@thatfurrygamer1476 yeah, my least favorite part of gunslinger will be its slow upload schedule, with badwater being such a fast worker, we get to the insalely fun stuff quickly so ohhhh boy

[@thatfurrygamer1476]

@@itzpeanut9904 plus the fasy uploads gives ot that old feeling of the shitty quality of gmod animations

[@alivecree]

Anakin: this is where the fun begins

[@MayW15663]

You missed the fact that Teethineer was implied to be killed because he was unresponsive after the explosion and the player had to manually create the walker for him rather than letting him walk on his own.

[@gierok]

That's terrifying

[@androidmk5987]

Reminds me of the joke of what happens when a toy in toy story dies

[@inspectorjavert9868]

You can also see his shadow in the corner after the explosion as if to check on him

[@thesucc990]

You can also see the Teethineer's arm slightly twitch.

[@Nevrein]

my theory is he didn't die, he's just in excruciating pain and cannot move his legs so he has to use a walker

[@flyingpiggles1034]

My favorite part about these args is when they make fake tutorials and I actually learn from them

[@patrickflorentin8166]

Same

[@lxvermusic660]

Why’d you call it “fake”? It made you do something cool so it ain’t fake?

[@-Metalblaster-]

Fr

[@nuggetsatan4574]

@@lxvermusic660I think the better way to describe it is “staged”

[@sonicletrol4501]

its kinda confirmed that badwater is scared of the dark room as not only when scout was in the black room he did not go after him but WHEN engineer wandered off to the black room badwater grabed him quickly compare to the others times when he is handeling the other ragdoll

[@TheFunniestBro]

Smart thinking my dude

[@redictor]

personally i think it's because scout juuuuust got out of sight in the darkness since badwater wasn't using his flashlight

[@yourbudmanicc8665]

I think everyone that's even played Gmod looked over into the dark room and got frightened at least once

[@pyrobytee]

ok so theres probably a chance that badwater is a kid

[@BakaSupreme999]

It's probably to show that the villain Is still human And probably young

[@lizandroid]

i feel like the reason the soldier is regarded as "a failure" is because after the events of the last video the liquid he was submerged into destroyed the bottom half of his body, hence why he is crawling away looking like that.

[@SamHoward-l9q]

good idea

[@dellconagher7006]

maybe he cut his legs off and tried to attach robot ones but he tried to escape?

[@zcgamerandreacts2762]

@@dellconagher7006 that or Badwater forgotten that there is actual acid and realised his mistake and eventually had to delete Solider.

[@zan821]

the liquid had a red aura around it, perhaps it was lava, and dr metalhead was acting on his own, to create a character to destroy badwater, attach robot legs on to him, so it'd be heavier, and thus harder to grab him with the phys gun, but then badwater found out and killed him.

[@mechamadness]

I'd say it could be something similar, but maybe instead of it being the 'liquid' that was a prop for the set, that the process of mutilating the Soldier didn't work properly, hence making him unusable.

[@maajestiic7098]

I love how he specifically mentions GMOD’s The Idiot Box, I miss Dasboschitt…

[@ZaxTheAl1en]

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[@sickmind33]

yeah. Now the guy just edits videos for some youtuber

[@perrypougins379]

@@sickmind33 which one?

[@LibrarianOfLeng]

@@perrypougins379 I think he did some animation work for Team Four Star, but other than that I don't know

[@sickmind33]

@@perrypougins379 can't say. Was told to in confidence

[@cbwmechbot]

Something I noticed between Gunslingerpro and Badwatervideos is their different ways of handling the fact that they have sentient characters in their game. I feel like Gunslingerpro actively tries to hide that his characters are alive, as if he wants them to just be plain old ragdolls and nothing more. While Badwatervideos is very open about it and takes advantage of the idea of having actors performing on their own. Along with the tutorial that he made, it makes it seem like he isn't aware that no one has living ragdolls in their game. He thinks it's normal, he's not aware that his version of the game is an anomaly. At least that's how I've interpreted it.

[@tront5903]

That's what I was thinking!

[@Simpo-iu6gx]

Gunslinger would probraly know they arent supposed to be alive by videos and friends playing games. Badwater did watch idiot box, but he seems mostly frustated by the ragdolls, not wanting to constantly hide them.

[@zcgamerandreacts2762]

One hides the problem and make sure no one knows about living ragdolls. (too late to do that.). While the other embrace it and improves upon it.

[@stepanek7404]

Then how did badwater in melonman vs the tehtineer know that threatening melonman with the remover tool would make him obey?

[@anotherdnb]

And also the way they treat them as well,Gunslinger usually gets easily irritated with them moving during production and gives more harsh punishments,meanwhile Badwater just gets a bit irritated when the ragdolls try to escape or don't help with the animations,but doesn't punishes them,usually just deleting them or capturing them back

[@peterpeter4178]

NGL having a GMod addon where you can travel through maps by a door seems VERY fun to use like for multiple map Hide and seek

[@botondzoltannagy8849]

Yeah

[@mistah.cheese]

would be EXTREMELY laggy, tho.

[@peterpeter4178]

@@mistah.cheese Yeah

[@louisbrice6279]

@@peterpeter4178 i'd say in the menu select load insert map amount here and it will just place them around the void outside the maps and the door that lets you traverse to one map and another will teleport you, also you can select where the portals go cuz why not

[@ChainikVlad]

I don't think it's even possible - Source has limits on units, where maximum of that would be the size of typical Danger Zone map (a little bigger, but you get the general idea). For combining maps you should either: 1) Make a map like gm_genesis, where it has multiple levels with teleports and the map should utilize vertical space (skybox should hide another "map") 2) Make two maps, which is connected, but you have to wait for loading (like HL1: Source maps) 3) Just wait for S&Box, lel - that game can have very big maps - like Liberty City and Vice City from GTA's, where this addon can be possible.

[@jonathanwest8415]

The scene in Offblast during the machinima tutorial also implies that Badwater doesn't know that this isn't how ragdolls normally act, and that he thinks that this is how they're programmed. So he's just playing the game with added strange occurrences he thinks are normal and preemptively counteracting them when necessary, like runaway scouts and the like. This could also explain his remorseless behavior, since he hypothetically doesn't know the ragdolls are sentient; just programmed that way, which also means they're not prisoners or hostages or anything.

[@boredperson2798]

You genius, how could such amount of people notice that and still don't think of this?

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

That just makes it worse tbh

[@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457]

There's also theory, he's young, which would make sense of why he's unwilling to go into the dark room.

[@Mast3rKK]

@@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457nah that shit is terrifying, cant blame the guy

[@Grimmations]

Someone commented on the Sanctuary video and it’s got me thinking, they said that they think that Badwater may actually be a kid or early teenager, and not that the dark room is a sanctuary but more of the reason badwater won’t go in there is the same reason in many ARG’s supposed “young” creators won’t go into the dark room. Because their afraid of Whats inside

[@rubikraccoon]

Lighting tests truly are terrifying

[@rubikraccoon]

Lighting tests truly are terrifying

[@maple1263]

@@rubikraccoon why did you comment that twice

[@rubikraccoon]

@@maple1263 youtube occasionally does that, no clue what causes it

[@alicorn3924]

@@rubikraccoon Internet Lag or double clicking/tapping the enter button.

[@kaisersudank6180]

What if the reason he acts so normally when going into the white void between maps is because he's both young, and as he says, doesn't play alot of video games? He might think the game is normally supposed to be like this

[@STALKERCAMPFIRE]

Yeah I agree.

[@dolsopolar]

Yes. When i was younger i like to play a heavily modded or a Chinese/korean version of counter strike and just thought it was a normal game

[@CindyDijkema]

@@dolsopolar what was modded into the game?

[@cmcphotography1]

@@CindyDijkema Considering it said Chinese/Korean, I assume Porn was all over the screen

[@themysticautistic5449]

wait you aren't supposed to torture ragdolls?

[@atruepanda1782]

I love in the q&a the way he sneakily gets people to watch gunslingerpro2009 by telling you to look up the walker tutorial. That's some natural advertising

[@VolcaronaMain]

Theres a lot more walker tutorial than gunslinger’s

[@Cyrogenesis.]

@@VolcaronaMain yea

[@CSharpDCS]

@@VolcaronaMain yeah but how convenient is that

[@heavenlyhavens]

Badwater confirmed there was no connection

[@CSharpDCS]

@@heavenlyhavens yeah but a nice egg

[@maun6139]

I love the whole white room teleport thing badwater does it’s just a really cool way of transitioning and messing with people’s expectations

[@realanimegirl777]

Same doors as Gman going out during HL:ALYX

[@ethanethanethawhipwhorp]

@@realanimegirl777 badwater is gman confirmed?????????

[@diablo9772]

left 4 dead 3 confirmed???????????

[@Bomp..]

Team Fortress 2 Update confirmed!?!?!!?!!!?!!?!!!!

[@sudarnotaufiq7059]

​@@Bomp..portal 3 confirmed!1!!1!1!1!

[@legosaurg7979]

Someone on one of Badwater’s videos commented that Badwater might not realize that sentient rag dolls and the white room are not something that exists in every version of GMod, that they think this is all normal. And until evidence proves this to be wrong, I like that theory.

I think that too!

[@halberd-3291]

Maybe that’s why he talks about the rag dolls “wandering away after filming” so casually. You want to say “how would he not think that’s unusual?” But what if he thinks it isn’t? Good point.

@@halberd-3291 Yeah. Perhaps..he isn't evil at all? Maybe he just plays along with it and just treats the NPCs' behaviour as a feature of the game?

[@ImmaLittlePip]

While gunslinger is malicious badwater is just ignorant of his Ragdolls sentience I kinda like that hope both continue their stories

[@G809]

Especially since the only other games he says he plays is Portal and the L4D franchise, and in portal, pretty much every character is canonically sentient, and I haven’t played L4D so I can’t comment on it

[@OcelotsFilms]

Haven't watched the full video yet, but I have a theory that badwater actually can't spawn in the ragdolls and has to actively search for them. This means it's possible there's more characters actively in hiding in badwater's game. The stuff we see in the darkroom could even be evidence another character had been hiding out there before.

[@railcone568]

This would make sense as someone was sending the coded message in "Passage" when Scout was on the bench and the radio was next to him, I really like this theory

[@mistah.cheese]

that's probably the spy, he hasn't been used, and he won't go into the dark room!

[@jamescox4638]

I think this is likely, as the scout was playing tf2 normally on sawmill until he encountered badwater. Well, ‘normally.’

[@railcone568]

@@mistah.cheese That is true, I'm honestly worried Badwater somehow happens to go in the darkroom overcoming his fear and grabs the scout again

[@computr166]

the idea of a gmod player snatching players from other games and using them for machinimas is truly terrifying

[@goodluckgorsky3413]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1025">17:05</a> I also think it’s strange how much Badwater holds that Teethineer death scene. I don’t think that has anything relating to the story, but from a horror perspective I really like it. Instead of a cartoony, video game death that a normal gmod machinima would portray, that extra second of awkward silence gives a lot more gravity to the fact these ragdolls are sentient

[@jeffbezos6196]

if you look closely, you can see that he has muscle spasms

[@mariaroseneideferreiradear2317]

If you look closely at the left side of the screen there is a shadow aproaching it looks like spy due to the way its holding something like a revolver maybe

[@mariaroseneideferreiradear2317]

Right at 15:37

[@basketbomberslackingson4417]

@@mariaroseneideferreiradear2317 looks more like Badwater himself, considering that object is way too big to be a revolver (aka it’s gotta be his gravity gun).

[@mariaroseneideferreiradear2317]

@@basketbomberslackingson4417 yeah makes sense

[@SoapyTF]

Badwater referring to the discord as a Skype group is peak comedy

[@Null_4045]

I was surprised and laughed

[@therandomsomeone.]

he probably lives in his own world, where everything is so 2009

[@Null_4045]

@@therandomsomeone. is he gonna suspicious us talking about things that don't looks normal in 2009. Like we talking about the pandemic?

[@The__Interloper]

@@Null_4045 No, usually ARGs ignore comments about future topics.

[@Null_4045]

@@The__Interloper huh. Interesting

[@kevinthecockroach]

there isn't enough teeth in the world to show how many subscribers Richter deserves

[@ceoofcats133]

neither does ragdolls!

[@cakereal7701]

true

[@technical_difficulties_]

Whatever you do, don't take that sentence out of context.

[@verygoodname1239]

Same thing with the bodies in my basement

[@ellioteathan2626]

same thing eith how many years i have left to live

[@pacman10124]

The distress signal that warned the scout to hide I feel like it's some sort of dropped plot point since the manner in which the void has been fleshed out is completely different from what it was being built up to be. If not, I hope we get to see it revisited with more of an explanation as to why it's there

[@bosselotiscanon]

i think it's possible that whoever was behind the distress signal spawned in the door to the void so that the scout could potentially head to gm_construct (or some other map with a creepy location in it) and hide within the dark room: i don't think they were accounting for scout to stay in there long enough for badwater to find him

[@bosselotiscanon]

@@sombatstudios this is a good theory and might have some weight to it but badwater only found him when scout exited the white void

[@kozyisback]

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[@salty1water417]

Ok

[@louisbrice6279]

it sure is safer here, speaking of AMONG US SCARY 3AM (GONE WRONG) (GONE SEXUAL) (RACISIM INCLUDED) soon arcade craniacs THE BEST 3am youtuber gotta make a DONT GO TO DARK ROOM IN GMOD AT 3AM!

[@simpletestaccount237]

Tell me, Dr. Overtime, if you can: you have so much, what is it exactly that you have uploaded? Can you name even one video?... I thought not.

[@alichank]

Lmao

[@ZaxTheAl1en]

"Safer"

[@goodluckgorsky3413]

I’m kinda wondering if the sentient ragdolls have any relation to the in-canon TF2 characters or their memories. Like, did they teleport from the TF2 universe, working for Blutarch and Redmond, then suddenly their at the mercy of a machinima creator? Do they genuinely have any of the personalities of their respective characters? Or are they just completely unrelated consciousnesses

[@SniperOnSunday]

@BLU Engi Yeah

[@Simpo-iu6gx]

If It was... Spy, sniper and medic would only be the ones to not Rebel. Just so they survive

[@loneaxe1986]

@@Simpo-iu6gx I think medic would actually plot with him XD, given that he has more than one soul than badwater couldn't control him, but medic is wishing to participate in his plans, that isn't impossible, we've seen that happen already.

[@yj4003]

J

[@wolfcl0ck]

"There's not much to note here other than some strange effects on some voice lines." Seems you missed a rather important part here. The Teethineer appears to die, note their arm twitch while badwater stands over them. This scene is very drawn out and deliberate. In addition, the "teleport" looks much more like either the cloning or creation of a new teethineer than it does a standard teleportation, with the new teethineer sort of looking around in a daze.

[@VolcaronaMain]

You would prob be dazed after being tped tbh, also the panel says that its teleporting so idk myself

[@soulgamer612]

I’m don’t think he dies, rather i think he’s in pain and hurting after the explosion (like a sentient being would) and is a bit dazed when “teleported” back. I don’t think these rag dolls are even cabale of dying unless they’re straight up deleted.

[@miguellopez-du2jr]

Bro u afraid of misgendering a ragdoll???? OMG bro like you sooo need to touch grass rn yikes u w*sterner

[@sutrekirl]

@@miguellopez-du2jr bruh why are you throwing such a fit over someone using they and their

[@miguellopez-du2jr]

@@sutrekirl I did teh funny where plebbit gold w*sterner??????

[@toaster9922]

I’d like for there not to be a shadow entity, buu it t if there is, It would be interesting to see it as a force of “good” in the story, helping the characters against Badwater.

[@bobbythornton5268]

I saw sanctuary and I thought “why the scout?” And then I saw him get free and hide I was happy inside :)

[@missingindy]

You probably shouldn’t, because badwater is basically god, and if someone like him has a greatest fear, the ragdolls should fear it too

[@tragedyplustime8271]

@@iliketurtles3529 That'd be the best twist ever. The dark room is 100% safe and Badwater could easily take the Scout from there, but he fears the same dumb entities (Meaty, charple, cheaple) that we ourselves fear are in the dark room. Essentially an antithesis to the entire origin of GMod ARGs.

[@beep602]

this aged well.

[@zeta-o4z]

Same, but Scout (I’ll call him Felix because he’s sentient) isn’t going to be able to hide for long. Badwater can do anything because he’s the player, not Felix. If I could, I would help Felix out.

[@Kannon_Shots]

i believe the sanctuary name means that he's not the only ragdoll to escape to the dark room, and that the ragdolls know about it, since engineer in the tutorial video also tried running to it but failed. This is also supported by the matress, since someone had to have placed it there, it's possible there are other ragdolls there as well

[@hestrueyouknow3690]

Gunslinger needs to work on his upload schedule.

[@Jman2808]

He only upload once

[@alex857tgg]

True

[@controlzy5247]

he got famous and dipped

[@redx6923]

Isn’t it kinda like gmod videos and classic gm ?

[@Skylander_Starscream]

@@controlzy5247 man they all do that as in they stop uploading for 4 or so months and then upload again

[@MelRosewood]

*One thing! In the tea time video, there actually IS something to take note of!* When the engineer gets blown up, and then launched into the barricade - he starts twitching and moving slightly, as if he is in s great deal of pain. So painful that he can’t move a lot. That or that he moves too little because the player is ominously looming over him to see if he’ll start running away in fear or pain so he’s terrified for his own life. And no matter who is threatening you or what is on the line, if you survive a grenade you’re going to uncontrollably twitch in pain. That too and you can see the player’s shadow looking at the engineer. and the engineer is looking up at the player in fear or silently asking for mercy or a painkiller.

[@Everik-ct6pg]

All i really want is for this saga to end with the red scout getting a hold of the Toolgun, and using the delete tool on Badwater.

[@roadkill.highway]

what do you think would happen if he deleted badwater, would he be able to just restart the game and ply again or would he never be able to play again

[@Everik-ct6pg]

@@roadkill.highway i like to think that the entire unique build of the game Badwater has would break, killing everyone on it, including Scout and the other Ragdolls. Badwater is still alive in real life, but he can no longer use that special version of Gmod, and is forced to now use lifeless Ragdolls in a normal version of Gmod instead of cheating by using the alive ones. Alternatively, the same thing happens to Badwater, but the build doesn't kill the Ragdolls, meaning they finally get to live peacefully without being tortured by Badwater.

[@madnesscombatfan7429]

so uno reverse moment

[@WaituSnaiku]

0

[@dej.v]

@@WaituSnaiku 0

[@thesun5275]

watching the Q&A "oh ok this seems all fine and dandy." *bloody legless soldier crawling on the ground* oh I take that back

[@morshulinton4112]

*A f a i l u r e*

[@James-oj6ru]

Wonder how he would make this video interesting since he explored the themes or concept of said ARG and stuff

[@sponosx6860]

Badwater posted more videos a very new one 3 weeks ago

[@James-oj6ru]

Oh sorry @@sponosx6860, I mistaken badwater2009 with Gunslinger2009

[@missingindy]

I believe that the white void may be inspired by the earliest version of gm_construct, where there was a blinding white hallway with buttons that led to hl2 maps, and the doors could be a representation of the buttons, but leading to tf2 maps instead of hl2 maps

[@ohscheie1293]

Welcome to "Revisiting Badwatersvideos2009 [GMod ARG]" After probably a week in development, hopefully it's would have been worth the weight! Thanks. And have fun.

[@Cyrogenesis.]

at least this vid is not abandoned by the maker

[@megafan1137]

i love how Badwater has managed to create two perfectly enjoyable stories within this single unfiction project. The "sentient ragdoll" horror side of things is just as intriguing as the Melonman series is endearing. The balancing act being performed is simply remarkable.

[@DoYaThingTM]

Cant wait for gunslingerpro2009!

[@doctorloongman5899]

No need, there is nothing new on his channel

[@thatredpyro6890]

@@doctorloongman5899 see that's the difference between beta virgin gunslinger pro2009 and the alpha chad Badwater videos 2009

[@b3but_he_was_here464]

@@thatredpyro6890 this guy right lol

[@redredsoldier07tf23]

I agree with you so much thank you

[@goldenstone8631]

@@thatredpyro6890 still like gunslingerpro2009 for being the first

[@TheLoaf1743]

My idea on why gunslingerpro2009 didn’t follow the Scout into the Dark Room is because of the stories, creepypastas and such that this place is known for. That’s really all I have for an explenation of that behavior. Maybe he even just spared him. Edit: I meant Badwatervideos2009. I’m braindead.

[@feelingsfeelings.2848]

That's badwater, not gunslingerpro, dude

[@TheLoaf1743]

@@feelingsfeelings.2848 I am dumb.

[@feelingsfeelings.2848]

@@TheLoaf1743 r/relatable

[@heavenlyhavens]

@@feelingsfeelings.2848 r/relatable No e after the l

[@feelingsfeelings.2848]

@@heavenlyhavens Oh yea thanks,

[@martytheanimator6426]

Also if you note his health in the ragdoll walker video, it goes from 100 (before the goof with the wheels) to 85 (after he gets things fixed) as if to infer that some outside force attacked him, maybe the engie, perhaps?

[@thorathunk]

Maybe he hit himself on accident when he got mad with the saws

[@STC161]

@@thorathunk perhaps

[@SlicerFragZ]

"Thank you for inviting me to this skype group" glad homie staying in character

[@bobby2loaves895]

I have two things that I noticed about “The Teethineer ruins Tea Time” that you might’ve missed. When the Teethineer gets knocked back by the pipe grenade onto the ground, you can notice the his right hand slightly twitching. In the bottom left corner, you can see the shadow of (what is presumed to be) Badwater looking at the body of the Teethineer. My theory about that is that the ragdolls can be killed, and when the Teethineer got hit, he did, in fact die. Because the Teethineer died, Badwater had to change the story, which led to him being revived by Dr. Metalhead (presumably).

[@bojogaming9385]

I only recently got gmod and i genuinely use these arg's turorials for educational purposes lol.

[@vadimbutsyk9750]

You know the dark room is scary when even a evil player who forces ragdolls to do what he says like puppets is scared of it even with being able to yoink scout with the pys gun in fear meanwhile i legit just send in 30 companies of rebels to clear it out

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

I just bring lamps. Lots of lamps

[@sealscav6694]

What if badwater is not a set up arg, what if he is just an ordinary person who is stuck in the past.

[@dragonsymbionte8585]

That would mean that h stuck in a time loop but eferythign else is movie normaly.

[@CindyDijkema]

@@dragonsymbionte8585 "eferythign"

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

What if there is a time offset

[@pastalavista2654]

On the Tea time video you missed some things. After the explosion you can see a shadow of badwater standing next to teethineer and if you look closely at him lying on the floor you can see his arm twitching as if he indeed died there. The audio distortions also support this, in the way that normal lines sound like they would be edited in post filming and the screams not as if they were real screams of agony coming from engi's mouth. I think that Metalhead didn't actually teleport HIM but teleported a new one provided by Badwater himself (or even created a new one). The same thing could have happened after melon had beaten up teeth with hesitation but i'm not sure. Anyways great video Richter!

[@dogelord79]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1027">17:07</a> I'm surprised you didn't mention the player shadow appearing after the teethineer got flung, or the weird oddly realistic head movements of the teethineer after being teleported

[@SwaggyG_2102]

The reason as to why BadWater said that he doesn't know about Gunslingerpro is because of the fact that BadWater started uploading his videos in 2009, which takes place a year prior to Gunslingerpro's channel uploads.

[@abmalreklaw5096]

No

[@Beltboy]

@@abmalreklaw5096 Why no? It's logical

[@arandomoctopus2532]

Read above, Badwater apparently privately confirmed to Richter that there's no in-universe relation between the stories.

[@abmalreklaw5096]

NemoGotYeeted no

[@tiredTheorist]

@@abmalreklaw5096 yes.

[@milk1852]

I find it interesting how the light is a dangerous place for the ragdolls while the dark is a safe place for them, it seems like an interesting concept.

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

you missed the Teethineer's hand jerking when he was lying on the ground and you could see Badwater's shadow in the tea time video

[@AbandonedChan8l]

Ikr

[@brroddyy]

I don't know if many people have noticed this already, but I noticed around <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="384">6:24</a> you can see some weird pile of what looks like gore on the concrete garage area above the first payload capture point. Maybe it isn't anything and I'm just seeing things but I haven't seen anyone point it out yet, so I figure it doesn't hurt to do it myself. It isn't shown at all after that, so it probably isn't anything significant if anything at all, but it never hurts to look into it.

[@dellconagher7006]

it looks like an after effect of an explosion,like when you blast a rocket at a wall, maybe he was just testing the grenades beforehand?

[@Quenical]

I love the fact the dark room in ‘gm_construct’ is a sanctuary for the rag-dolls because the player is to scared to go in. It’s so relatable and cool!

[@DeejLueej]

Honestly the favorite class being the spy could tie into the old meme from circa 2009 of gaben saying my favorite class is the spy. There are a lot of callbacks to the freaks of Gmod machina, such as painis cupcake, vagineer, and christian brutal sniper. For those of us that were part of the scene back in that time, this is a goldmine of nostalgia and simpler times of KZbin

[@polskahistoria6090]

Technically, you could recreate the White void passage using source, but each door would need to load you into the next map.

[@ruefysh9576]

I mean, you could create a map that was like 3 different maps stacked on top of each other and have teleports between them in form of these metal doors, but guess it'd be too laggy and well yeah you got only 3 maps to move between

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

The thing that would make map changes noticable are the obvious messages that the game is loading a new map. But hiding the load is possible. Like having the load area around a corner (so that you can't see the rest of the map) and then another corner before the next map opens up. So the back and forth would just be inside a hallway from which you can't see either map, but that is designed identical on both.

[@WorldsBestStuntMan]

I remember I saw the Q&A video like 20 minutes after it came out, and the top comment at the time was "Is Melonman circumcised"

[@ironprince72]

the real questions

[@Theyarehere6]

for the melon man interrupting tea time, when the teethineer gets flung, you can see the shadow of badwater with the physgun at the bottom left, just in case you missed it.

[@specialism640]

Scout is a genius, hiding in the dark room where no player would go.

[@philipjorgensen2628]

I like how badwater doesn't go into the dark room because he's scared of it. Adds to the idea that he's just a kid.

[@fluffyx1556]

The cut in half soldier slowly crawling away is definitely very unsettling and creepy, but him suddenly disappearing with a "AA-" is a bit comedic and made me giggle

[@kermitenthusiast485]

Something about your voice is amazing for commentary. Keep it up.

[@fusix92]

In the video "teethineer interrupts tea time" you can see that while the camera is looking at the teethineer on the ground after he gets blown up, you can catch a glimpse of the player's shadow

[@ElsuperGTA]

This is an epic moment Can’t wait for this!

[@sponosx6860]

Me too! I am so excited!

[@tobyret9302]

Yo, Richter, in russian gmod community there is actually little theory about "Gunkov's gates" - white portals that can lead to every map. I doesn't know if Badwater could be russian or no, but "Гуньковские врата" kinda popular theme.

[@bosselotiscanon]

another commenter said that his interface sometimes spells things with european spellings (color as colour for example), so it's possible that he's from somewhere in the EU?

[@CSGModFan2012]

@@bosselotiscanon I think BadwaterVideos2009 is from the UK.

[@InfernalRam]

@@CSGModFan2012 canada

[@VincentValentineFF7]

Nice video richter! Hoping livestreams do become a reality one day

[@HumanTooth]

I think the most interesting thing to me is that badwater frequently ignores or misinterprets questions like "How do you make your characters" and "How do you make Teethineer move like that?", likely on purpose.

[@cnocee]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1510">25:10</a> got me thinking Badwatervideos has a *RED* scout gunslingerpro has a *BLU* spy in the tf2 class select screen, Scout is all the way on the left, and Spy is all the way on the right. is this intentional and symbolizing that the two are opposites? or maybe Badwater is supposed to be Gunslinger's successor, because Spy is Scout's dad

[@LG-ii7gl]

Bro you are digging WAYYYY too deep lmao. Richter has specifically stated that either Badwater or Gunslingerpro (I don't remember) had personally told him that they were not connected at all.

[@Cyrogenesis.]

@@LG-ii7gl or they just dont wanna tell the real truth ps: nice pfp

[@LG-ii7gl]

@@Cyrogenesis. I personally find that unlikely p.s. thank you

[@xI-MIKE-Ix]

@@LG-ii7gl It's obvious that the real Badwater (not the arg character) knows Gunslinger's channel, and most likely got the idea of making this arg thanks to him, but canonically, Badwater doesn't know Gunslinger because at the time he made these videos, Gunslinger's arg still wasn't a thing.

[@bosselotiscanon]

@@xI-MIKE-Ix i agree, i do feel like there are definitely more than a few nods to gunslinger but i don't think they mean anything in regard to the lore

[@TriggerzConnors]

White void is the shortcut to teleport map to map instead entering a console "map (x)" Also you missed the shadow from the episode teethineer interrupting tea time and Teethineer twitches his hand trying to stay alive and he dies seconds later, the medic "teleports" teethineer (was a clone) trying to destroy melon man. You need some eagle vision to spot hidden stuff.

[@bussner1501]

man really missed the player's shadow in teatime. Great vids tho, makes watching these arg's much more fun than binging alone

[@evangonzalez7732]

Y'know what I just realized? Each Gmod player has a base hp of 100. Each meatshot from the scout's scattergun does 108 damage if each pellet connects at close range. If the scout had just... Shot badwater, like how scouts are SUPPOSED to shoot things, then none of this would have happened.

[@thirion1850]

I find it interesting that despite "traveling" to the other map, the player still "loads into" Badwater. Also note that Melonhead lacked a head while being transported.

[@biblicallyaccurateangel4433]

The fact that these are actually able to keep me at the edge of my seat and make me feel this sense of uncertainty and feel uncomfortable?? It's that good!! This concept is so interesting..

[@nowo7772]

Yo! Great to see more ARG content from you, this video was cool and it was great to hear your take on the unfolding story! Although personally I think removing the parts where you show off entire videos from the ARG would help these videos, instead of showing us the entire video, perhaps show us some small clips and you’re already very capable of describing the scenes well. I guess i was just thinking it may be more effective to describe the events instead of show them by using the entire video. Either way its great to see a new upload!

[@DreamBrover]

I usually don't comment but I really wanted to say that your video are really well made. The writing is competent and clear, I never misunderstood anything and I think it's a good and interesting thing that you choose to edit in a 4/3 aspect ratio.

[@weewoogee]

THINK MELON MAN THINK, DID YOU REALLY THINK YOU COULD BEAT ME TEETHINEER?

[@ItFoundMe]

If you look closely in the Tea Time video you can see that when teethineer is launched by the explosion and crashes into the barricade, the shadow of badwatervideos2009 creeps into frame with the physgun, you can also see teethineers hand move at the same time.

[@Mark03]

"Thank you for inviting me to this Skype group" God, badwatervideos is so classy.

[@RandomGuy0127]

In teethineer interrupts tea time, when teethineer is laying on the ground you can see badwater’s shadow looming over teethineer.

[@NARbluebear]

What I was supposed to learn: This guy uses and tortures actual players for his own pleasure What I actually learned: You can make a ragdoll walk by attatching its feet to two wheels mounted on a cinder brick and a canister

[@annwong3317]

Its so innocent yet so dark at the same time, it just sends down shivers down my spine.

[@planetearth2249]

More Badwater + More Richter = Perfection

[@d1psy85]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1512">25:12</a> According to Meet The Spy, BLU Spy and RED Scout are related, is that a coincidence or was it planned this way?

[@qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm2643]

I think you mean the RED Spy and the BLU Scout. This may be the case for vice-versa, but that’s not officially confirmed unlike the RED Spy and BLU Scout relationship.

[@fazstudios]

So what if in this arg, instead of there being a monster in the dark room it’s the scout? Just lurking and watching in GM construct, not doing anything because he is scared of badwater

[@maxsilvernail1479]

I like how badwater mentions things like the white void and it actually taking place in 2009 so normally

[@bag1728]

Scout: runs to the dark room Badwater2009: Hell naaaw, to the naw naw naw

[@youknowwho5251]

I think in the video after "The Broken TV". the Scout probably isn't deleted. He is most likely dragged through the White Void passage, and put into the scene of Passage, most likely for a video that got cancelled due to Scout disappearing.

[@Coldtea25]

With the mention of left 4 dead 2 being in 2 months we know the time for his videos is around September 2009

[@humanharddrive1]

the white void connecting the maps is such an awesome idea, it feels me with an equal amount of curiosity and dread

[@blax140]

last time i checked your subcount was 4000 you have grown incredibly fast

[@themilkdealer1]

I think the reason badwater hasn't included the spy at all is because, since it's badwaters favorite class, badwater has mercy and doesn't want to torture him.

[@SwaggyG_2102]

Some of the questions in the "Questions and Answers" video are actually some of mine's! It feels nice seeing your question getting answered in QnA response video.

[@xdarin_]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="627">10:27</a> this is why you use "make persistent" option in the context menu/tools menu this is just relatable man

[@cellophanezebra4663]

For once in my life a ARG of all things actually taught me how to make a ragdoll walker after 12 years of playing Gmod

[@a_handle420]

I would like to point out that before he escapes to the dark room, The Red Scout looks over to Badwater which I think is a pretty cool thing to further confirm the sentience of the Scout

[@yusuferenay]

Well actually, while he had the menu open after he said that he was going to add thrusters, the red engineer moved forward, but through the left edge of the menu, the red engineer wasn’t shown to move. This shows that the red engineer is also sentient, but even with the power he gets, he doesn’t want to leave as much as the red scout.

[@Legendary231]

I also want to note Teethgineer running off at the end of the Tea Time video has some obvious rocket noises, while his movement in Dr Metalhead Rises was much slower, only had footsteps, and his feet didn't rise up the ground as much. Almost like he was trying to hide that he may have been moving on his own.

[@white_mochi]

Sometimes I like to think about how much better things would go if he just treated his subjects RIGHT. Like, they could use vc to communicate with them, giving them choices so they can consent to participate or not. And if not, they can just let them run free.

[@wyattevans7988]

I know this probably won't make much of a difference but I just want to add that in the teethineer interrupts tea time video when you look at the segment where the teethineer got blown back by the grenade into a construction fence you actually notice badwaters shadow in the scene at the bottom left.

[@ElephantsDoingCrack]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="323">5:23</a> I am always the elephant in the room...

[@RichterOvertime]

Truly you are

[@shinjihirako6464]

In the tea time video when teethineer is laying on the ground you can see badwaters shadow towards the left

[@KamiJoJo]

You forgot to mention the Kleiner drop shadow as soon Teethgineer gets blown up into the prop. Also Badwater seems to refer Discord as a Skype Group, which makes me wonder if he's really stuck in 2009 or if these are actual reuploads.

[@kobythetater]

Theory: I think the reason the Cyborg Solider was deemed a failure was cause that weird goop he was put in in “Dr.Metalhead rises” somehow damaged the way the Cyborg Solider looked, and so was deemed a failure.

[@LenkyLad]

I still believe his general interest in mistreating scout had to do with how he’s normally treated in Gmod machinimas

[@minefromusic]

I think the scout is a bot from tf2, who, instead of spawning in a tf2 match, spawned in Badwater's game, I think his game allows or forces this to happen.