Tonal, Modal and Polytonal ii V I Jazz and Classical Chord Voicing's

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Rick Beato

Rick Beato

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@AlexanderKhanukhov
@AlexanderKhanukhov 7 жыл бұрын
Will repeat myself..This is Gold, the info you guys getting here for free is taught in best music schools over many years ..took me 12 years actually.... Take it while you can..Thank you Rick Beato.
@seiph80
@seiph80 7 жыл бұрын
Alexander Khanukhov I am! this is the best thing on here!
@AimeeNolte
@AimeeNolte 8 жыл бұрын
Valuable valuable information, very well-delivered. 👏🏼👏🏼
@galgabrielisrael3237
@galgabrielisrael3237 2 жыл бұрын
Man the videos from the 2016 era are the best thing in the internet
@joethebar1
@joethebar1 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick- Long time veteran bassist here. Your videos are easily the best on the web. I study piano theory even though I don’t need it at this level; I pride myself in being the complete musician
@crystalplanet09
@crystalplanet09 2 жыл бұрын
These older vidoes are university courses in music and I love every one of them!
@KennyMacMusic
@KennyMacMusic 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. It is not every day you finally stumble across some high-level theory videos. Thank you Rick for providing all this. Really good stuff
@blindsteinofthemountain3831
@blindsteinofthemountain3831 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen a few of your clips. Always solid. I'm a songwriter/guitar player and I came here first after listening to a 20 year old Terry Gross interview of Dave Brubeck. I'll have to dig a bit further into your library. Thanks so much for sharing.
@pwhi2251
@pwhi2251 8 жыл бұрын
these are really the greatest music lessons i have come across.! thankyou rick
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Camel! Have you subscribed? :) Rick
@pwhi2251
@pwhi2251 8 жыл бұрын
+Rick Beato of course :)
@videomauro07
@videomauro07 7 жыл бұрын
I'm going thru each one of your videos.... unbelievable stuff. Thanks so much Rick. That's all I can say!!!!!
@woytd6435
@woytd6435 7 жыл бұрын
same here, crazy amount of amazing knowledge!
@saadalhumaid8043
@saadalhumaid8043 7 жыл бұрын
Mauro Colangelo he so good.
@alsegno4347
@alsegno4347 6 жыл бұрын
this is obviously a summary of advanced harmony I have not YET come to terms with, however I am working my way through the Beato Book. What would really help, for me, would be to hear the chords without the sustain pedal. It seems to wash out the tones, sort of like putting them in a blender. Just a thought.
@mybiggrin
@mybiggrin 7 жыл бұрын
You are so incredible and so right. Every time I log into KZbin there is a new video that you have made that teaches me something new and I've been to college for music! Thank you so much!
@dougappel5924
@dougappel5924 5 жыл бұрын
Invaluable. This whole series is gold.
@SCOREWIZARDSMUSIC
@SCOREWIZARDSMUSIC 7 жыл бұрын
Polytonal ii V I blew my mind
@reallyreallyryan
@reallyreallyryan 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! I've stagnated currently with my piano writing, so I'm hoarding all substitution ideas I can get my hands on. Thanks, Rick! Keep the content coming.:)
@manuel8887
@manuel8887 7 жыл бұрын
Amaj/Fmaj could be a Fmaj7(b13), which comes from the harmonic major scale.
@lukaszha8826
@lukaszha8826 5 жыл бұрын
The modal is surely exclusive for sophisticated ears.
@carlosmontoyamusic
@carlosmontoyamusic 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, Rick! I've not seen anyone else explaining this concepts like you. Thanks again!
@Mellon5858
@Mellon5858 3 жыл бұрын
Rick, brilliant as usual. But give the sustain pedal some rest! Makes it blurry, at times, so didactically less strong if you wish to clarify complex sounds.
@MrOzkarlopez
@MrOzkarlopez 7 жыл бұрын
I would like to hear more about those polytonal voicings!!! still can't get it how you come to those voicings with minor and major triads played together, x'!
@feratgoogle
@feratgoogle 3 жыл бұрын
The dominant in modal leaving the 3d out: as Miles said to Herbie: " don't play the butter notes". ( at least that's what Herbie thought he said😀)
@danielmanahan692
@danielmanahan692 8 жыл бұрын
I know it is a bit of production work, but it would be really great to get a visual on the keys you are pressing. you are putting up only the Chords over the other Chords and anyone's guess as to how they are inverted. two solutions either angle the camera down to your fingers pressing the keys. or put up a graphic each time. easiest is to just angle the camera down. or use two cameras to see your face and one to see your hands. from this angle it is impossible to see clearly what notes are being pressed and follow such a complex lesson. great stuff as always. have to watch it a few times to wrap my brain around it. keep up the great work.
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 8 жыл бұрын
I have all the voicing's available for my Patreon subscribers but I want people to use their ears. But ok Daniel here's a little segment for you: Example 6:10 G Phrygian - Ab C Eb Ab over G octave C Altered Bb Eb Gb (E) F Lydian A B C G over F Octave 2nd x G Phrygian - Ab C Eb Ab over G octave C Altered C# F# A# C over C Bass F Lydian C F B over F and C Polytonal Voicing’s at 7:30 Abmaj/Gmin = Low to high G Bb D / Ab C Eb F#maj/ C maj = Low To High G C E / F# A# C# F# E maj/ F maj = Low to High C F A / G# B E
@edmccormack8032
@edmccormack8032 4 жыл бұрын
At 7:33 - I think he meant Abmaj/Gmin is from G Phrygian? At 8:01, I think he meant to say Emaj/Fmaj is more of a "Lydian #9" sound (6th mode harm. min.)? At 9:20, I think he meant to say that Amaj/Fmaj comes from the six note augmented scale (F,G#,A,B#,C#,E)? I'm applying what I've learned from his ear training course and later youtube videos.
@grabas619
@grabas619 7 жыл бұрын
"This is a typical G-7 voicing jazz player would play... it's actually a G-9". lol... jazz players.
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 7 жыл бұрын
+Rudolf Grabowski that's why I said it was typical:) haha
@solenelle
@solenelle 5 жыл бұрын
It's a common approach to categorize chords as major, minor and dominant or tonic, pre-dominant and dominant for their function. 7 stands for any chord that has the dominant 7th in it. 7, 9, #11, 13, b5, #5 and more.
@patbreacadh
@patbreacadh 5 жыл бұрын
Great sounds! This is really amazing stuff. I like all you lessons, but the ones you do on the acoustic piano are my favourites. Not that I don't like the guitar, but I guess the piano illustrates harmony more freely and sometimes more clearly that the guitar does. I think the acoustic piano is an added value for the learner. I reckon most of us don't have an upright piano at home, not to mention a grand or baby grand. Those voicings sound really awesome with the dampers lifted.
@JoseHernandez-vh1kb
@JoseHernandez-vh1kb 7 жыл бұрын
This is mind blowing material
@oettamo
@oettamo 7 жыл бұрын
9:57 very important point! Thank you!
@oettamo
@oettamo 7 жыл бұрын
True! But the important point is after that phrase!
@sandalero
@sandalero 7 жыл бұрын
theory exists to descibe what people practically are doing. (at least in music ) and not the other way around. so rick describes stuff that people usually or sometimes do. and these people find it sounding pleasant. both the people that are doing it and the people that find it interesting to talk about the theory of it
@sandalero
@sandalero 7 жыл бұрын
so "never been used before" should read "almost never been used before" i think
@braddeathridge
@braddeathridge 8 жыл бұрын
It's funny, I heard a bit of harmonic minor tonality when you were talking about secondary dominants and diminished sevenths a couple videos ago. Maybe that's just me though. I love your videos. Very inspiring. Thank you.
@kylebarnett350
@kylebarnett350 8 жыл бұрын
great lesson! pretty eye opening
@bobbybordbar2096
@bobbybordbar2096 8 жыл бұрын
This is Great! Thank you again Rick.
@jonbrown448
@jonbrown448 5 жыл бұрын
I love your music lessons!!
@SamWalston
@SamWalston 8 жыл бұрын
i wish i could see the piano
@SWillis
@SWillis 5 жыл бұрын
I learned some of this theory some time ago-and appreciate the reup-but sometimes I feel like someone could accidentally sit on the keyboard and it be OK as long as a pedal is pressed and one ends on a I (or, I- maj7 or I-b7 chord). Can you show the keyboard and/or play it on guitar?
@ObsidianLife
@ObsidianLife 4 жыл бұрын
LOVE these vids! Thanks!!!
@sandalero
@sandalero 8 жыл бұрын
isnt Abmaj over Gm Gphry instead of g locr , rick?
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 8 жыл бұрын
+sandalero You are correct :) I was wondering when someone was going to notice that. Haha! I was going to correct it but wanted to see if anyone was paying attention. Thanks! Rick
@legatorecordsstudio4818
@legatorecordsstudio4818 7 жыл бұрын
I'd easily say that Fmaj/Em is E Phrygian (as I mostly used to be in "C major environment") ... but as about Abmaj/Gm - not at once
@steelplayer118
@steelplayer118 10 ай бұрын
Excellent. Thank you.
@parkerpolen
@parkerpolen 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rick!
@Guilherme-nc5li
@Guilherme-nc5li 6 жыл бұрын
But can all these modes on the ii-V-I progression, do they all belong to one scale or is he just putting them together because they have teh same harmonic function as the original progression?
@stynway59
@stynway59 6 жыл бұрын
I suspect he's talking about the function withinn the human ear, not the mathematical relation on the page
@TheApostleofRock
@TheApostleofRock 5 жыл бұрын
Not a clue. But at least in the second polytonal example the roots of the left hand chord are a 2-5-1. Couldn't guess how he chose the other parts of the polychords tho
@leonardo_rossetti
@leonardo_rossetti 2 жыл бұрын
Just curious: when does a modal approach to the various chords become simply using a lot of very altered extensions and viceversa ? Or for that matter, when does it become using different triads over a pedal tone that are normally avoided by the conventional player (the pedal tone being either the II, the V or I)? Am I right that the lines between these approaches are blurred and that it might just be a matter of how the player perceives what he/she is doing?
@stefanwagner8859
@stefanwagner8859 6 жыл бұрын
very nice tunes!
@alexandergadjiev3733
@alexandergadjiev3733 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Rick quick question : how do you choose those polytonal chords? Do you try to find a consequentiality also between the "added" chords?
@Charlyfromthenuclearcity
@Charlyfromthenuclearcity 8 жыл бұрын
I think I'm missing something. I don't understand the relationship between the major modes and the one you're using. For example, F is first degree so Ionian, but you change it to a F Lydian Augmented. Is there a relationship I'm missing between these two modes ? Or is it just because you thought it'd sound good ? :) Thanks.
@Charlyfromthenuclearcity
@Charlyfromthenuclearcity 8 жыл бұрын
I'll check your linked videos to get some clues about this.
@545parsa
@545parsa 7 жыл бұрын
FSBass it would just be a substitution to add some flavor to the regular I chord
@juanmaidana8185
@juanmaidana8185 8 жыл бұрын
This is great! Do you think there is any chance of taking this ideas and translating them to the guitar? I just don't know what would be the best way of getting those polytonal flavors without destroying your fingers, hahahaha. Maybe just playing a triad on the top 4 strings with the root of the other one on the sixth string? Think it would be pretty dull tho :/ Your videos are amazing, cheers!
@PaulTheSkeptic
@PaulTheSkeptic 6 жыл бұрын
What does dominant mean? I know what a lot of those words mean. Mode, augmented, diminished, polytonal, Phrygian, Lydian etc. but I don't know what dominant means. What makes a chord dominant?
@stefanmuehlenkamp
@stefanmuehlenkamp 5 жыл бұрын
When it comes in and feel it has something very important to say!
@Docom13
@Docom13 5 жыл бұрын
A Major chord with the 7th minor. ;)
@terry3254
@terry3254 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure I've heard some of those chords on Pink Floyds Dark Side of the Moon. Am I right?
@D_Money_Mane
@D_Money_Mane Жыл бұрын
So Sunday morning by Maroon 5 is ii V I...lol got it
@sandalero
@sandalero 8 жыл бұрын
how about D over Eb with Gbass for Gharmonic min? the Ebm one is new and fresh to me .-)
@MrFLAVIUS12
@MrFLAVIUS12 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Beato,you know some pianist who use the modal voicings? Its a good sound. (sorry my english)
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 8 жыл бұрын
McCoy Tyner is one.
@MrFLAVIUS12
@MrFLAVIUS12 8 жыл бұрын
Ok, Thanks!
@fiorpietro
@fiorpietro 8 жыл бұрын
Rick Beato
@michelevalletta9451
@michelevalletta9451 5 жыл бұрын
Why does those modal chords sound like the mode? What is the principle? how can i build a modal chord without checking online which is it?
@gregorio98000
@gregorio98000 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@MaybeMaxwell
@MaybeMaxwell 4 жыл бұрын
I wish you would use guitar for you music theory videos.
@huncauac2808
@huncauac2808 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick, how are you? Coud you explain the same on the guitar ???????? Pleaseeee!!!
@RizalBudiLeksono
@RizalBudiLeksono 5 жыл бұрын
Can you release the sustain pedal?
@johnjacquard2182
@johnjacquard2182 6 жыл бұрын
please do more polytonal lesson with bebop fine sir!
@lauriewinestock4195
@lauriewinestock4195 8 жыл бұрын
Thai stuff is SOOOOOO AMAZING!! I am a jazz composer and am learning so much from your youtube videos. How do I become a Patreon subscriber - I am reading the post below, where you suggest doing this in order to get your 'voicings' etc.
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 8 жыл бұрын
HI Laurie- You can email me at rickbeato1@gmail.com. Thanks! Rick
@jaytilson421
@jaytilson421 7 жыл бұрын
After mentioning people don't really talk about the harmonic minor scale, you play a C harmonic minor scale...but isn't the voicing you are playing ebm/gm based on the G harmonic minor scale?
@diggyonutube
@diggyonutube 8 жыл бұрын
Very Interesting!
@zenncatt
@zenncatt 8 жыл бұрын
I'm coming to a point that I feel that there isn't any harmonic device that you can't use - at least in an jazz oriented improv scenario. As long as we resolve nicely, it's all game. While that thought opens up a lot of vistas, it does kind of make you reel at the prospect of all that freedom.
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 8 жыл бұрын
+zenncatt now I know that that I'm doing my job well. Thank you! There are so many melodic and harmonic possibilities out there that have gone virtually untapped. Not just in jazz but classical music and Pop music.
@zenncatt
@zenncatt 8 жыл бұрын
You are indeed doing an excellent job, Mr. Beato! Thank you for doing all these professionally produced educational videos. PS. I think it is a good thing that you don't show the chord shapes, but rather give the voicing and the notes intervallic value in relation to the root. I personally find that more helpful than looking at someones hands. Thank you again.
@ranielyfire
@ranielyfire 8 жыл бұрын
mind sharing some of those possibilities for pop music? it would be greatly appreciated!!
@anilec333
@anilec333 5 жыл бұрын
Learn a lot
@toneseeker87
@toneseeker87 7 жыл бұрын
i love you man
@kalM856
@kalM856 8 жыл бұрын
uhhh ! cadê as teclas??? assim fica difícil
@lyndamcardle4123
@lyndamcardle4123 3 жыл бұрын
Rick... I know this is jazz and I understand the ii V 1 (and the vi) concept and also understand the voicings and modes you use here (I even use some myself) ....however, this "lesson or study" is way beyond the comprehension of most musicians...you're just being too complicated ....which is when or why "punk rock" came in. As I recall, the late Phil Lynott once opined, that he felt that "sometimes you needed to believe you had to have a CGSE (grade) to play guitar !"
@Cursan
@Cursan 3 жыл бұрын
Tank you Rick for the vidéo but it would be better with less pedal. The resonance is disturbing the ears.
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