In The Room With Pantera's Rex Brown, Zakk Wylde & Charlie Benante

In this episode, I have the privilege of interviewing three members of Pantera's current touring lineup: founding member Rex Brown (Bass), Charlie Benante (Drums) of Anthrax fame, and Zakk Wylde (Guitar).
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[@davidbenasulin]

This needs to be said....Rick Beato is doing for music what televisions and MTV and author- programes did back in the day. This is a sort of home - school for music lovers. Rick Beato channel is very much THE place where I learn something, everytime, each and every interview , with a lot of my musical-heroes! loved (once more) this interview. Never got the chance to see Pantera live...maybe now I will! Thank you Rick! Thank You, Master!

[@phadrus]

Excellent and important point

[@Geezer-yf8hv]

I totally agree! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@drumtwo4seven]

so you say self proclaimed

[@aaronfoster742]

I agree this music platform is Great! I can only promote by a thumbs up then,👍

[@richardclark.]

i saw the original Pantera at OZZFEST, Phoenix AZ 2000. the area in front of the stage just kept swelling as it got nearing to their stage time. The sun was just getting low. they walked out and plugged in with no talking, no bullshit. It was like a sneak attack and that first chord smashed me before they even seemed to have a strap settled. That mass in the pit just exploded and security broke and ran. not even the National guard could have stopped them them from doing whatever it was they wanted to do. man i remember me and my girl laughing so hard! i am 58 now and seen at least 200 major shows and countless gigs. i played quite a few myself but that was the only time i ever saw security just give up. certainly the only time after one fucking note! baaahhhhh!!!!!

[@badmonkey2222]

I think alot of people don't realize what a phenomenal bass player Rex is dude is solid AF.

[@jamesallen884]

I can't agree with you more ... Incredible underrated!!!!. Seriously ,,, checkout Suicide Note Pt II live in Noblesville, IN. - his tone is just ridiculous.

[@brittscott4673]

Being a bass player and original Pantera member his input has probably been priceless to capturing the Pantera sound. Being the bass player him and the drummer had to be a tight rythm section and the bass is a guitar so he had to be in tune with Dimebag and compliment musically what Dimebag was doing on guitar .

[@kreb12]

The bass intro to The Art of Shredding will live rent free in my forever.

[@LEWDUVA]

I was cranking Vulgar this weekend and the bass really caught my attention. Super impressive.

[@badmonkey2222]

@@brittscott4673 Oh No doubt.

[@edwardgruzwalskiiii4370]

Unreal Interview! The humility of Zach!!! I’m a fan! I respect their craft, talent and background / inspiratons.

[@IANSPA]

Love how Charlie was on the double bass drums through the whole interview.🤘

[@offtherecord681]

Trust me, it's a drummer thing😅

[@aboutthemetal8783]

​@@offtherecord681 I've been a drummer for 37 years, when I'm sitting in the living room,in the car ,at the dinner table etc,etc I'm playing in my head and tapping any surface I can ,I drive the Mrs nuts , my 17 year old and 3 year old are both drummers , it's awesome.

[@andrewklope]

Wives of drummers everywhere are rolling their eyes lol

[@frankrizzo4877]

As a guy that is not a drummer but would love to learn how to be one I'm always moving my feet like Charlie or the late great monster that is Vinnie Paul.

[@unforg1v3n]

And Zakk playing air guitar.

[@peevee605]

This is ace. You’ve outdone yourself, Rick. Massive respect.

[@McGheeOH]

👍

[@musicM0VESme]

I agree. This is great. Much respect, guys.

[@gregorysmith8964]

U a racis?

[@brianpinion5844]

once ya get Maynard everyone else begs to come . just the facts ! well maybe not but anyway .

[@damageincorporated8558]

Ace ? Are you a Kiwi? Haha, your comment was ace too bro 😁

[@MikeBoardley]

I love that Zakk gives props to George Lynch. People may not like Dokken, but Lynch was a force to be reckoned with and he's the reason I started playing guitar as a young kid.

[@coachbrandon01]

When Zakk talked about metal guitarists, early in this conversation. I felt that he left out an important piece of the puzzle, in the early 90's. Though He was not in the mainstream, John Petrucci was, quietly, setting new standards that people only recognize, now. Later in the interview, he put John Petrucci, in the conversation, and in the right place in the story of metal.

[@jamiepregnell6603]

I can't find Zack talking about Lynch, must of missed it? Any idea time stamp?

[@577buttfan]

He was just speaking truth man,

[@tellchoat8337]

George is still a force of nature. Guys a killer guitarist

[@wyvernx666]

I saw him play at a Paul Gilbert show amd it was freaking insane, i had not heard of him before then and became a fan!

[@stephanjones8424]

I love how much respect and love Zakk has for other musicians and artists.

[@gilhuberman261]

It comes from his biceps LOL

[@MrMetalclay]

This is the first time I've seen an interview with Zakk. He's such a cool dude, and he comes off as very honest and humble.

[@cgillit]

I guess it never dawned on me how many insane guitarists he has had to follow and replicate on stage until he started listing them... Iommi, Rhodes, Lee, Dimebag. No pressure or anything.

[@neonblack211]

I keep expecting his veins to just explode at any moment

[@chadbentoski5778]

Can't wait for him to get back to his shows. Won't go see him here.

[@Onamorata]

Props to Charlie for trying to emulate vinnie, respectfully. He knows how much it means to everybody, so thats awesome. I’m excited to see it next summer 🔥

[@oskarfunes2505]

He has nailed Vinnies live sound so well

[@DELZREACTS]

Charlie is a stand up guy

[@pstx2816]

Charlie is a great guy met him at a anthrax concert, he was nice and polite more than I expected him to be. If you ask me he is a very underrated drummer IMO

[@devilaverage6718]

Check out the bedroom covers from the lockdown period. He's a great guitar player too.

[@goddamnzordan]

Hell yeah

[@Sebassie]

Zakk calling Rick 'Father Rick' is like the greatest honor.

[@xprettylightsx]

Is it like the greatest honor. Or the greatest honor. Like like like like the annihilation of my beautiful language. Great work.

[@La_sagne]

​@@xprettylightsxits not your language and the dude might not even be a native speaker.

[@llnn5112]

We need a Rex voiced audio book ASAP. His voice is so relaxing.

[@michaelhudson2912]

someone should cast him in a western

[@Pimenta666]

That's sooo true

[@Jonathan_Doe_]

Or just Morgan Freeman style narration bits in a film.

[@tross6380]

Southern molasses

[@kidgmusic]

He looks like Steve Bucemi with long hair 😂

[@thomasbaldiscola4671]

KILLER Interview! I love around 6:26 he mentions Ola! Zakk always seems so down to earth! 🤘🤘

[@sweettea3569]

And Attila, that dude has helped me so much with pantera stuff and the fact that Zakk mentioned him too made me happy

[@fernandoramoa7079]

He’s gonna go nuts when he hears zakk mention him here

[@sweettea3569]

@@fernandoramoa7079 for sure I think he has a video out now lmao

[@randyrhoads4737]

I love how Zakk communicates so well through these interesting analogies and also spreads such a positive message about being driven. He really is such a rooted, down to earth, logical guy with a fun sense of humor.

[@topsecret1837]

That sounds a lot like dimebag don’t you think?

[@DVBandDad8]

Love Zakk... His "King Edward", "Saint Rhoads" and "Lord Iommi" references are timeless. Respect.

[@ckmoore101]

Who is Prince?

[@handsomerube]

@@ckmoore101Prince

[@mattwatts33]

And father Rick lol

[@Dan-zq5wt]

He’s got a Pope Page and one for Blackmore too

[@SeabeeBuckeye]

​@Dan-zq5wt I want to say it's Bishop Blackmore I heard him say once, but might be wrong on that.

[@jasoncrump1886]

Zakk has a great mindset . He always sees the positive side of things. Really love his vibe.

[@JohnT-kg3oi]

Really cool to hear him appreciate and pay homage to the rock giants that came before him as well as give props to younger artists.

[@colinrgage]

Without a doubt

[@Humanflesh1988]

He’s grown a lot that’s for sure

[@davis311c]

He's "just saying "

[@LeadMe2TheBliss]

I like how he appreciates all the fans regardless how they act at the shows, some of us just want to chill, some of us may want to mosh, some of us may film the show while the bands plays and he accepts everyone for who they are! Cool guy.

[@JeremyWatson-f5d]

It's amazing listening to Zakk talk so positively about his fellow guitarists. He is a legend who is down to earth and humble. This is why he's my favorite guitarist if all time

[@writerone9510]

King Edward and Saint Rhodes 😊

[@leeclark9790]

Wow, the fact that Charlie set his kit up like Vinnie's is something else. Forgoing his comfort level to do justice to everything - incredible.

[@noahsmith9025]

Cuz he's awesome!!

[@khalez1471]

Vinnie was against a so called pantera reunion after dime's death. So charlie is going against vinnie.

[@masterp2269]

I was just hoping and hoping it was Zakk and Charlie. I KNEW it would be Zakk...and knew it SHOULD be Charlie...I've come to recognize him as one of the absolute best drummers on the planet. So versatile!!!

[@redacted2275]

​@@masterp2269Zakk is not fitting in Dime's shoes... Zakk doesn't have as much repertoire as Dime to pull it off... Charlie is great, although Vinnie was totally against this reunion.

[@KrikZ32]

@@redacted2275 I saw them live, Charlie was indistinguishable from Vinnie, Zakk sounded like Zakk but emulating Dimebag perfectly is a lot to ask out of anyone and Zakk is still really great.

[@darrelllovitt8753]

Rick, I’m trying to put this into words but you’re channel is like a modern reference or source of musical knowledge, fountain of knowledge for the modern musician, for those of us like me who grew up watching mtv and playing in bands I appreciate everything you put out, you’re continually having my heroes as guests and I’m just failing to put it into words but thank you so much

[@miguelalvarado1440]

Agreed!

[@ryanm.9396]

My sentiments exactly

[@jonathanswindle7023]

Zakk has the greatest attitude about music. If it sounds good and you like it, go for it,

[@OlaEnglund]

Hell yeah ! 🤘

[@viking2304]

You and Atila really deserve the shout-out man! You guys are keeping Dimebags legacy alive ❤ thank you for that! Mycket respekt!!

[@Westles76]

Rex not only plays bass, he also speaks bass. Talk about an ASMR voice! Legends! 🤘

[@jeybi675]

Yeah, nice bass voice

[@edstromen]

Yeah, noticed that too, very cool bass voice Rex has

[@knifeprtyyyy]

I grew with uncles and dads friends who talked just like Rex when I was growing in Texas in 80s. Deep slow southern draw.

[@taylortarr5961]

That's not pantera

[@JBmusicart]

Lol, what have you done lately

[@Plowguitarist]

Man I miss Dime and Vinnie. They WERE PANTERA to me. Rex being instrumental to their sound as well. But the love and respect Charlie and Zakk have for them two guys definitely breathes a rejuvenation to Rex and Phil. Coolest and most humble group of guys. 🙏🏼

[@stevilkenevil9960]

Nope Phil is pantera

[@gstevens6948]

Like Rex said, “In the end, it’s all about the legacy anyways…” Zakk and Charlie play out of respect I’m sure.

[@CharlesWillisBonsai]

​@@stevilkenevil9960lol. None of Phil's side projects, which I still enjoy, have sounded like Pantera. Pantera without the Abbots is like Van Halen without thr Van Halen brothers.

[@stevilkenevil9960]

@CharlesWillisBonsai agreed BUT , the abbot brothers were at it for 10+yrs before Phil joined and couldn't seal a record deal. Phil joined and brought a sense of idgaf attitude that allowed them to get away from the cookie cutter spandex bullshit. I mean the abbot Brothers didn't even know who slayer was back then. You can hear Phil's immediate influence on power metal, yeah they still had that glam tone to their music but after Phil joined he gave the music teeth, Even on Power metal you could hear Phil's influence. Let's face it w/o Phil pantera would still be doing van Halen covers in a backwoods Texas bar somewhere.

[@delam]

@@CharlesWillisBonsaiExactly. This is no different than calling Sammy Hagar's band Van Halen. Only the Singer and bass player left.

[@jodymills3138]

I love Pantera because of Dime’s playing but it was so cool to hear them get heavier on each album.

[@charlesburger1810]

They evolved. That's beautiful.

[@KevinQ1989]

Heavier doesn't always mean better. Vulgar Display of Power is their best album.

[@lukeknutson3191]

Far beyond driven is... IMO @@KevinQ1989

[@jmichelzzzboy]

Zakk is a beast of a musician... incredible talent.

[@willwetherington]

I love just how passionate Zakk is and how he throws great metaphors at everything and they all make perfect sense.

[@paulclark4071]

"It's like if you had a coconut...."

[@Erkki_Mela]

Yes! And always makes sure everyone knows what me means! 😂

[@HabAnagarek]

Got real old fast

[@grindcoreblues7517]

"No, I mean, I'm just saying... Father, Lord, Saint, No, I mean, I'm just saying... No wonder my dude chose to let his guitar do the talking. lol. My old bandmate used to own a small record shop in town and had scheduled Zakk to do an in-store meet and greet. When the time arrived Zakk couldn't get a ride, so my bandmates and I had the pleasure of going to pick him up... ( from the Alrosa-Villa of all places) this was back when he had first started BLS. We got there, picked him up, burned some and proceeded to have a great time. After we got him back to the venue my bass player said "My god, I can't believe how bad he smells"... lol. I guess he thought life on the road is totally glamorous. Zakk was so cool to all of us and he's right... If music is what you want to do... "You better love the music because the music doesn't always love you" you have to be willing to get in the trenches and live like an animal. I still have the autographed picture hanging up to this day. Good dude, Great times.

[@sampleoffers1978]

@@grindcoreblues7517 did he smell like demon peptides

[@DM-pv4rw]

A band like Pantera deserve to have such great musicians and friends of the Abbotts paying tribute. Great interview Rick

[@vorpalblades]

The Abbotts hated Phil, they didn't want this.

[@DM-pv4rw]

@@vorpalblades The Abbotts did not hate Phil. Dimebag never hated Phil. Vince hated Phil after Dime's death, but moved on. Both the brother's were annoyed by his live performances when he was on drugs. To say they hated Phil, when they spent over a decade together basically as family, is ridiculous.

[@Vivi_9]

Some fans are incredibly dumb, they'd rather not have a Pantera reunion which to fans like me who were too young to have seen them in the 90s is insulting, why the hell should half the band not perform such legendary songs and give fans like me a chance to see them performed?

[@jfo3000]

​@@DM-pv4rwI remember reading an interview with Dime in one of the guitar magazines where he went on, at length, about how Phil strung them along while playing in his other band projects for a year or more, before the brothers started their next project without him. Dime was in pain, disappointed, it was pretty sad. Phil started up with this no show behavior before RTS, most of the vocals on that album were by "Seth", even on that earlier album. It was like, "Where is Phil?". Now Phil wants to be there.

[@DM-pv4rw]

@@Vivi_9 Same man. I was born a year before Dime's murder, and I am an absolute diehard Pantera fan. I love all the music, so it's nice to hear the music performed live. I don't think its disrespectful at all. It's not like they're making new music or anything.

[@gijsvandersluijs790]

Is this a joke? This is a coverband capatalizing on one of the best metal-acts ever.

[@jpaulgarner5466]

I’ve always took Zakk to be a serious, but lighthearted guy; example; his terms of endearment for all the guys he truly respects, including “Father Rick”.

[@davidtomkins4242]

That’s the one thing about him that makes me cringe

[@SuperFlanders123]

Seems rather defensive about certian things to me.

[@colico14]

@@SuperFlanders123Example?

[@stigmurder99]

​@@davidtomkins4242yeah, it's alright for a second, but it just sounds weird when everyone has a title lol

[@nigelsmith721]

Agree completely. His turn of phrase is ridiculous. It's probably a habit now...like pinch harmonics @@davidtomkins4242

[@brosphbehemoth6141]

What a show they put on! So much energy! These guys are definitely doing this music justice!

[@dandyism7288]

Beato is the new Mtv! (In the best sense of the word)

[@LeadMe2TheBliss]

I would agree with that if he had more of a diverse selection of artists and bands that he interviewed. He does a great job of doing interviews though. I feel the same way about Eddie Trunk.

[@Rok_Piletic]

Headbangers Ball

[@andrewbecker3700]

Charlie is the OG of metal drummers, and this whole Pantera tribute thing wouldn't have worked without him anchoring it. The most humble of guys, with pure raw talent.

[@Cedric_Harris]

It might have been interesting with Lombardo. I always felt like he and Vinnie had a similar groove.

[@warinsidemyhead8939]

Lombardo too....

[@stianchrister]

There's maybe 5 guys who could do the role justice. But that's about it. 7 billion people, and there's five dudes...

[@rippywilliams2139]

Seen em in Dallas and again in Albuquerque and Charlie is spot on. I closed my eyes and it felt like Dime and Vin were there

[@bobabooey4537]

Lars Ulrich - CEO of thrash metal

[@elsupernico]

Zakk’s knowledge and recognition about other legends’ style is amazing.

[@YouTubeIsRanByFagsandCommies]

@@sutoneru-sama9836boo freakin hoo

[@ANGRLLL]

@@sutoneru-sama9836just be grateful there’s even something to critique it’s never gonna be a dimebag carbon copy. Even if he messed up the riff by a note it’s not that deep 😭

[@ferox965]

​@sutoneru-sama9836 If you want perfect Dime, go listen to the records and stay home.

[@philo240]

@@sutoneru-sama9836 Guy's in his mid 50's & i'm a few years his senior. Trust me, It's a wonder he can still shred as consistently as he can & still maintains his own band.

[@Ajm549]

This is not Pantera. Charlie and Zakk are phenomenal musicians in their own right, but Vinnie said it you can’t just kill eddy van halen and then get zakk. It won’t be van halen just like this is not Pantera. Name it something else. The Abbott brothers started Pantera not Rexx and Phil. But no one would come if they did not cash in on the name! Okes are earning their retirement off the back of vinnie and dime after they and I include rexx in this deserted Pantera! There is a special place in the after life for these people. They are not continuing the legacy they are destroying it.

[@Ajm549]

At best this is HalfTera! Let the good cash roll ka ching

[@RichardGarcia93]

Zakk giving everyone their honorifics “King Edward”, “Lord Iommi”, “Saint Roads” lols

[@netrioter]

It gets old

[@beinshow]

@@netrioter Agree...dude's just a little too much these days. You don't have to treat everything like a biker gang, church, viking clan, tribe, whatever.

[@SeraphOfTheNine]

The man wants to show respect and I admire this. Some folks don't, but those folks can also do what they want. ☮

[@debbiemurray1496]

All should respect EVH, RR, Tony Iommi, and ZAKK MFn WYLDE 🎉🎉🎉🤘🏻🤘🏻❤❤❤❤❤

[@bryanjasper3895]

I love Zakk’s attitude. Having fun and enjoying the show is all that matters. Great interview Rick!

[@313Valentine]

It's a Pantera tribute. It's not Pantera.

[@ACarter87]

Get right outta town!!!???? I don’t bought tickets bro!!!! Wayyyy n advance for TONS OF MONEY?!!! Whayumean it’s not Pantera??? I was promised Phil Rex Dime n Vinnie so whayu mean it’s a tribute….??? 🤔

[@I.O.M.]

Rick is a national treasure 🤘

[@josephiladelphia8733]

World

[@sebastiandiaz29]

* A global one

[@nickmonk7945]

International treasure

[@Wargasm54]

That’s a bit rich. Rick is definitely a cool ass dude that has done a great job carving a niche for himself while being super entertaining. But a National Treasure? Methinks not.

[@NikkieRoxxx]

Should be knited... oh, they dont do that in usa??

[@Simbaibass]

Rex is one of the true killer metal bassists of all time. All of those early tracks his bass just growled and held that foundation perfectly. It took so much technique to double those lines and nail it. I hope to see them live one day.

[@jamesallen884]

If you can make it ,, go! Rex's tone is ridiculous!

[@supabass4003]

I saw Down live in 2008 and was in the front with Rex, his playing blew my mind - he used all sorts of effects, played clean, pick/fingers just about everything except slap.

[@TSE_WOODY]

Early tracks? Rex slaps ass on every single record they released. Especially on the last couple, felt like his mixing/tone was improved a lot.

[@Simbaibass]

@@TSE_WOODY Agreed. I should have said especially those early tracks for me. But yeah, phenomenal always. I would never use the phrase “underrated” for him but definitely needs to be celebrated more.

[@the_black_arts]

I began to notice the depth of Rex’s contribution to Pantera when I clearly heard his bass riffing on the lead up to Dime’s solo in Domination. Rex was never ‘underrated’ but rather ‘overlooked’. These interviews over the last ten or so years cement his contributions to the band 🤙🏼

[@js5584]

Rex is the most underrated bassist of all time. His isolated tracks are beautiful. What a talent.

[@richardcurtis1912]

During the 90’s Pantera shows, if you didn’t, or couldn’t hear all the bass notes that Rex was playing because of everything else that was going on during a show, YOU FUCKING FELT REX’s PLAYING! Sometimes the crowd would be so beyond rabid, or singing the songs so ungodly loud you couldn’t hear the music at times, especially up front near the stage, but you could seriously fucking feel it pounding every square of your body! Pantera absolutely assaulted you in so many ways sonically, it was an incredible thing to experience and witness live. Rex is and has always been a monster bass player. Rex didn’t just take the easy route and follow Dimebag’s root notes, he really colored the pallete all around and in-between Dimebag’s playing. He played all over the neck and made great note choices. People try to describe what it was like to witness a Pantera show live, especially in their peak and I can’t put it in any better words than what I wrote above. Pantera was an anomaly. A once in a lifetime thing. Pantera will never be and cannot ever be reproduced, nor can it’s core members ever be replaced! Way too many factors went into the creation of the Monster that Pantera became! It was such and unbelievable thing to witness them play when they were firing on all cylinders and giving everyone their best. Seeing all the other metal bands live was one thing, but when you got to experience Pantera live you were baptized into heavy metal!!

[@jasonleverington9685]

The groove he an Vinnie threw down with Pantera was the foundation of heavy music for everything after Pantera. Favorite rhythm section of all time! Some of the grooves they threw down especially during dimes solos changed heavy music forever and changed the way I played and approached playing the drums.

[@js5584]

@@jasonleverington9685 100%. They played together like a "machine." So much metal music involved each player showing off and playing outside the pocket and groove. Pantera was the most musical rhythm section in metal history in my opinion. Groove, tightness, ability, musicality. Vinnie is a top 5 rock drummer of all time in my opinion. Never played a single mistake live.. Ever. What other drummer can that be said about? I don't listen to metal anymore, but every time I go back to Pantera my jaw drops. They were uniquely talented and could have been famous country or blues musicians had they gone that direction.

[@BoKnowsBrains]

"you hear the bass? you hear the motherfuckin bass?"

[@filheim]

Rex handled the Pantera wall of sound like a God...his bass cutting through the mix, giving heaviness and space for Dime's guitar...out of this world

[@thrill8723]

@34:20 Charlie is dead on. There is no more individuality in rock music these days. Then Zakk tries to argue that Rock is not dead simply because theres a ton of kids out there that are insane on guitar....But where is the song??? They cant write. sure they can play really good but there is no charisma or individuality like Charlie points out. Most of these kids are just the flavor of the month.

[@coryfeldman-hz2yj]

I saw pantera on reinventing the steel tour, skinny 17 year old me inching closer and closer to dime. Left my buddies behind, elbowed through the mosh pit, I swear dime saw the whole thing. Or when I got close, he saw a guitar player in awe.. Or just a dude in the audience that wanted to get his moneys worth. They were great. He was the best I've ever seen live.

[@ericchism4855]

I saw Pantera on the Reinventing The Steel tour

[@johnnyespinoza8]

Rick has outdone once again! What a show! Massive Legends out there! Man!!!!! Rick Beato, keep doing what you do because there is no one else reaching these levels! Hats off, hands down!

[@triggSerable]

Vinnie Paul was an absolute unicum among metal drummers. In my opinion, even more so than dime was for metal guitar players. He had an uncanny sense of rhytrhm, groove, swing feel, even jazzy stuff wasn't completely off the table for him. I will forever cherish panteras rhythm section with rex completing it as an equal 3rd member. They had a groove going that was completely insane.

[@Danboi.]

Yep👌 Big sound, small dude. Had the hardest 4/4 I've ever heard. True king of power groove.

[@Boppsta712]

Dude had pocket for days. Boom boom bap with all the bass turned up on the PA, laying it down with authority~

[@adamturner1563]

What's a unicum?

[@kevintchida4239]

it's not pantara it's phill and rex

[@nailholesga]

Charlie is such an underrated drummer. His playing on "Persistence of Time" (yes, the entire album) is just phenomenal.

[@genevai2893]

yeah that "who dares wins" by Charlie is legend

[@nailholesga]

@@alichamas63 And that's the point. He's not just one of the greatest metal drummers. He's one of the best out there in any genre.

[@garmisra7841]

His "Silver Linings" and the lockdown video series gave me hope and kept me alive, man. Playing with some greats, including the legend Alex Skolnick...and so much fun the videos he did with the Klassik 78 guys.

[@davino108]

Charlie phenomenal met him at Sam Ash Such a cool nice guy he can play with anyone

[@jiboo6850]

how can he be "underrated" when he has a snare drum named after him with Tama? i mean only recognized drummers get that kind of gratitute from a drum company. so calm yo tits down dude. he is very well amongst the greats of heavy metal genre.

[@CarnivoreDog]

From the first 8 seconds that I heard Pantera in 1991 until now. My all time favorite heavy band. There's never been a band close to Pantera!

[@debbiemurray1496]

Never will be 🎉 PANTERA ❤❤❤

[@noonecomics]

You know that Zakk have a lot of love for Dime, nobody could do a better job with greater respect for his music than this line up

[@1Deep43VA]

I disagree, but that doesn’t mean I deny the love Zakk Wylde has for Dimebag.

[@kevinkiso4579]

Oh, I bet there's some kid bailing hay in Nebraska on his grandpa's farm who practices every night, all night - who couldn't give a damn about making KZbin Shorts, blah, blah, blah. I bet there are dozens of guys who would rip truly new breath into many of these bands.

[@NikkLiberos]

Even Zakk credits Ola Englund and other guitarists on KZbin for helping him figure out some of Dime's parts.

[@NavidKhan84]

Wes Hauch baby…but as that guy said Zakk’S love for Dime makes the mistakes alright…I’m just happy these guys are rippin ass

[@ferox965]

Way I see it, if you want perfect Dime, go listen to the records. Zakk is the man.

[@denizdagci1023]

The Beatles' Helter Skelter must be one of the first metal songs written. It's after Cream's Sunshine of your Love, but it's heavier than that. McCartney said that he wanted to write a loud song like The Who's I Can See For Miles from 1967, but he certainly took it to another level.

[@JoseGarcia-eadgbe]

No one mentioned Saxon ⚫️🦷😼

[@alshif1596]

She's So Heavy is one of the most evil-sounding songs ever. And King Crimson's first record is absolutely hellish

[@HabAnagarek]

I seem to remember a quote from Lennon, that they invented heavy metal with Helter Skelter.

[@kawythowy867]

Sorry. Love Zakk but this isn’t Pantera. That band died with the Abbott brothers. RIP Abbott brothers. We Miss you.

[@robertvaughan5263]

More Pantera than gnr comeback

[@neilluke81]

Zakk is referring to Pantera in the third person and talking about learning Pantera riffs on youtube. He’s not claiming to be Pantera.

[@williamjeffbuckleyjr.2648]

Fricken Pantera!!! Yeah!

[@williamjeffbuckleyjr.2648]

Rex kind of reminds me of Derek smalls a little.

[@pugchesh]

It's a memorial to Pantera. Not only that, but Zakk and Dimebag were the best of friends. I'm certain Dimebag would have bo problem Zakk taking his place and honoring the legacy.

[@frankierodriguez8661]

Excellent. As a guitar player, I really love Zakk. He is (despite his ferocious looks) a really sweet guy and if you have seen his short videos, funny as hell.

[@RHEOSTAT380]

Each interview gets bigger and better Rick. You do a masterful job of letting them go in whatever direction, without interrupting or steering it away from where they want to go. Can't wait to see what you have up your sleeve next!!

[@Grymgar]

So where the Hell is Pantera? lmao

[@StephanieHilbern-lx1we]

Nice try huh?! Lol I agree.🎉

[@Deus_Veil]

3 legends, 3 bands forming as one. Save this video, folks. Some great content here. Excellent interview, Rick. Awesome commentary and discussion. Rock on - Metal forever 🤘😖🤘

[@mark65mc]

I was lucky enough to see them open for Metallica in Arlington. Hearing 80k people shout the lyrics to Walk was epic.

[@Duke_2373]

I was there, Great Show.. Acustics in Stadium were terrible, but i was not missing show

[@Delius7]

This is why I love watching Rick Beato interviews. Listening to these guys talk about the music, who influenced them, how the music evolved, etc, is utterly fascinating.

[@kevinaustin0369]

Rick, you’ve done it AGAIN! Raising the bar. Which essentially is the essence of what this conversation was about. Drive, commitment, dedication and devotion to what you believe in. These interviews are now forever online for the younger generations to reference and have a rare, inside look into what made these bands and musicians great. Why they stood out and how they made there eternal mark on not just music, but our hearts. Thank you for your devotion and dedication Rick. Your contribution can’t be understated. I certainly appreciate it and I’m sure many others do as well.

[@Christopherlite]

What are you talkin about? Rick is dishonoring the Abbott Brothers. Rick is not hip to the past and what exactly happened. Money makes Amnesia real convenient. The only one here is Rex. This is not Pantera never is never was never will be. And that's not an opinion read some interviews for yourself. Too many fanboys and not enough men sticking up for the Abbott Brothers

[@adamturner7436]

when My wife and I lived in Whitney Tx a neighboring town to where Dime and Vinnie lived, the brothers were going to Whitney Lake and stopped by the grocery store where my wife worked. She carried out their groceries to their car. They tried to give her a tip but the store policy said no tip. So the brothers gave her a hug. My wife said they were sweet guys and down to earth. Anyway that is our story. Pretty cool of the guys. RIP DIME AND VINNIE

[@FrancisCsaszar-gv9zt]

Respect to all 4 men in that room, talent, class and love for music. Thank you Rick for a tremendous episode.

[@rfpeace]

Zakk is so humble and REAL! Thanking Attila and Ola for helping him figure out what Dime was actually doing, even though he and Darrell were good real life friends during Pantera's active career.

[@BklynZoo]

Except that Zakk doesn't play the songs anything like Dime, and argues here that he can't do so because of his stylistic differences. Charlie isn't playing that same tune - he's doing his best to sound like Vinnie. I cringe every time Zakk absolutely butchers Dime's solos. People don't go to a Pantera show to see Zakk Wylde. A yearly tribute show where different musicians join in is not the same thing as a touring band paying tribute to legendary artists.

[@rfpeace]

Perhaps you would know better than I, as I've never really got into the Pantera thing, but because Dime was so loved by my hero's like Zakk and Eddie I've always remained respectful and tried to be open to what Dime was cooking! Cheers brother:) @@BklynZoo

[@cotopaximusic]

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[@BklynZoo]

@cotopaximusic Yes, I cringe listening to those lazy Zakk attempts at Darrell's solos. Did I stutter?

[@danmule4131]

I can tell you that from seeing these guys twice so far and watching plenty of online videos that Charlie's drum fills are not the same as Vinnie's. He's improvising and putting his own flavor on it too. It's more noticeable when Zakk does it because the guitar is out in front of everything.

[@allendean9807]

So much respect for the job Phil has been doing live. Spinal pain never goes away. He’s rehabbed his life, his voice, and you can see/hear the joy he feels to be back in the saddle vocally.

[@james12cool]

with the NEW Pantera it’s a water down version Blacktooth Grin it’s not Pantera but I do have to up most respect for Charlie & Zakk

[@TGG239]

@@james12cool Might not be what they were for obvious reasons, but to be able to get a glimpse of the magic they created decades ago is still priceless.

[@vigilante351]

Charlie - you have absolutely smashed the Vinnie drum sound. Everyone I think talks about the drums more than anything! Its so good to have Rex describe the whole experience as I never really heard many interviews with his side of things.

[@OldVikingSchool]

Rex and Phil couldn't have picked a better pair to fill the big sweaty shoes that the Abbotts left behind as they no longer walk among us on this Earth. Bless Charlie and Zakk for bringing Pantera the life us fans has been waiting for.

[@Grim_Graves]

Zakk with the positive energy which is great. Meanwhile, Charlie is sounding like the typical old guy that's being negative.

[@SukitTrabeck]

To hear Zach talk about how great Dime was and how amazing Zach is. Its just amazing. Just to see him geek out is so sick!

[@daveubermensch]

Too bad he didn't bother to learn that Vinnie thought doing this very thing without Dime would be an insult. Or Zakk did and doesn't care. This whole things is a massive showing of disrespect. Vinnie's own words, "People are selfish, man, you know? They want what they want. They don't care what you want, you know? And it's unfortunate that people go 'Oh wow, they could get Zakk Wylde to jump up there on stage and it's Pantera again. No, it's not.'"

[@leonardhill4440]

What an amazing group of men they brought so much joy into my life over the years MAN! Incredible. Thank you guys so much and to Rick for this interview.

[@locar12]

So happy to hear Attila being Zakk's go-to. The way Attila slices and dices Dime's chops makes you understand how Dime moves around the fretboard

[@AttilaVorosOfficial]

❤🫶

[@KvsK_OAGD_LCWM]

🔥💯🔥

[@davidzamora9973]

Highest compliment right there.

[@maxbeale8186]

Attila is great, love his Pantera videos and he helped me figure out Dimebag’s tuning secrets by just adjusting the reference pitch on the tuner

[@sparkynm156]

@@AttilaVorosOfficial Attila, Wow, Last time I saw you, Was with Warrel , You were a Monster.... still are.. .. .... Damn I wished you had stayed... I remember Warrel calling me at like 3am wanting advice , You had done a tourist visa instead of working visa and the Airport Security was looking at your laptop... looking at all these live shows and tour info...... You always had a great attitude ... and Exquisitely Monstrous Sound and Writing... Solid Musician and Person.. True Metal Heart... \m/ If you ever want some Lyrics or Serious Vocals to fill in some blanks or just need to get away... Drop a line ... I was visiting Warrel weeks before the Tragedy and Jim came up and visited for awhile to clear his head... and do some writing... He was Crushed but Bounced back... on a positive path..., No more insane conversations at whatever time from wherever... Warrels Silence Is Deafening... And his cooking... heh... Good Luck Brother \m/ You just inspired something.. Stay True and Take Care...

[@spadalino]

Zakk, thank you for mentioning Robin Trower and Frank Marino! It’s a crime how often these magnificent players are overlooked.

[@googlewalle8904]

I'm 60. Heard Frank Marino and Robin Trower for the first time during the Pandemic. I was like, all the lost years of not taking the time to experience them. But it was truly a gift to hear them during the lockdown and yes, it was props to Zakk for mentioning them some years ago.

[@Semenofthefall]

My 2 favorite guitarists. Unless you play guitar yourself seems like they are never mentioned unfortunately

[@MartinHNHS]

40:31 Zakk makes a great point here! And I think it stands to reason that the home videos are part of the bands legacy. Even the mid-90s Pantera bootlegs here on youtube are of decent quality for their time and age. It exposed me to what a Pantera show was really like and I love that stuff like that is being cataloged for new bands…it deserves to be celebrated so that maybe down the line other people who weren’t there will get to enjoy it!

[@beachcomber4141]

Where did Charlie get that Jaws shirt! I want one!! Killer interview and so great to see them keeping Pantera's music alive. Just amazing.

[@eddiemachetti6862]

Rick is the coolest online dude doing proper music interviews with amazing artist. Thanks Sir for sharing your time with us. 🤘🏽❤️

[@brushstroke3733]

Agreed. Otis Gibbs' channel and interviews are pretty sweet too. Kenny Vaughn (often on Otis' channel) is a great storyteller.

[@bradford_shaun_murray]

Zakk knows, he knows lol --> 0:28

[@turnschuh2901]

what comes next? van halen reunion with vai? pantera is gone when dime left us!!!

[@obsessedwithguitars3157]

Saw them live in Arlington opening for Metallica. Unreal how good they were! If you're on the fence, don't hesitate, buy a ticket and see them!

[@SOMEBODYGETASPONGE]

Pantera died with Dime and Vinnie. RIP

[@j.t.cooper2963]

Dime and Vinnie are rolling over in their graves over this blatant cash grab.

[@bonescheffel7795]

Saw them twice back in the day and again this past August and I thought it was great. Very respectful of Dime and Vince. Charlie and Zakk are both monsters and the production values were top notch.

[@pstx2816]

I love Pantera and its orginal members (especially dime). But I cant explain how much it makes me happy that their buddies ( charlie and zakk) get to play their songs, pay tribute to their friends, and keeping the music alive. I love it and not to get into too much detail but they really gave me a 2nd wind of life after seeing them live. Thank you

[@james12cool]

Rex with the NEW Pantera it’s a water down version Blacktooth Grin it’s not Pantera but I do have to up most respect for Charlie & Zakk I’m from Dallas I’m 59 Y I know all about Pantera back in the 80’s I played bass in some metal band around east side of Dallas & we played in backyards went no ware fast, I saw Pantera at the Basement in Dallas many times be for Phil joined the band. Anyway Dime & Vinnie are gone & so is Pantera R.I.P. Dime & Vinnie this not Pantera you are now a cover band NOT the Pantera I know. & I know this came out 3 months ago it took this long to watch it James

[@Wishpool]

I'm from Houston & went to college in Arlington, TX. I first saw Pantera with Terry Glaze on vocals and Phil joined soon after. I was in awe of their talent! I saw them *many* times in small clubs, then big arenas, and got to hang out with Dime on their bus in 1995. I chatted with Dime & Vinnie after the Damageplan show in 2004 before we lost Dime. I saw Vinnie a few more times before he passed. 😢 Thank you for this great interview, Rick! THANK YOU to Pantera for carrying on with monster players who show total respect to the brothers!!! 🎸🥁

[@coolnout3765]

What a great life experience and memory you have having met the original bandmates.

[@Wishpool]

@@coolnout3765 thank you. Yes, many fun memories! My college roommate went to high school with Dime, her ex-boyfriend and my ex-boyfriend were both Pantera crew members. I'm grateful for being in the right place at the right time in Pantera's early days to see them set the world on fire! ❤‍🔥

[@JoaoMASilva]

As a drummer, a Pantera and a Jaws fan, I couldn't be more represented by Charlie Benante

[@JohnSmith-pj1ir]

There is no Pantera without Dime and Vinnie. Good interview though. Zakk sure likes to ramble on and cut people off. Mainstream for rock and metal has been pushed out for rap crap, pop, no talent sex objects. With that said, metal, rock and actual talented musicians aren't dead! I'm seeing Protest the Hero next weekend, Carnifex on November 2nd and then Meshuggah, Whitechapel and In Flames on December 5th. Just saw Parkway Drive a couple weeks ago and August Burns Red, The Devil Wears Prada, Nekrogoblikon earlier this year and Trivium twice.

[@RafitoOoO]

Rex is 100% right. I'm too young to have watched them live before the group disbanded, but fortunately got to watch them live last year and it was amazing.

[@quicklicks5963]

I saw em once In 99. They were perfect live

[@ggentile146]

I never got to see them and I’m a huge fan. Big enough fan to respect the brothers wishes to not tour under the name Pantera because there’s no Pantera without Dime. Vinnie was accurate when he said that and he was also accurate about people who want Pantera to tour without Dime being selfish. Rex is a worm and so is Phil as far as I’m concerned. They are using the brothers deaths as a manipulation tactic so he can be back in the limelight and Rex is in on it too.

[@ericchism4855]

I saw them in 1996 and on their final tour in 2001. Vinnie's drum sound was like fuckin thunder, but from below. I saw this version of Pantera open for Metallica. They were pretty damn good.

[@jamesallen884]

Zakk and Charlie have been incredibly impressive throughout this journey, serving as outstanding representatives for Pantera while giving by the utmost respect to the brothers. By the way, Rex's tone is sensational! Seriously ,,, WTH!?!!!? I absolutely love it!

[@guyamado9855]

Rex Brown sucks. Shame on you - and Phil Anselmo, of course - for what you did, and keep doing with this so-called new "Pantera". there is just NO WAY of being "Pantera" without the 2 deceased brothers - and not speaking only in the musical sense. simply like that. Just call it any other name - even if that not generate the $ame money as the "brand" Pantera might do. Despite bringing these 2 great, gigantic musicians (I love Charlie and Zakk) as new members, your attitude is deeply disrespectful for what Pantera really was, and should mean.

[@knifeprtyyyy]

I was born in Arlington, TX and grew up in The Metroplex in the 90s 00s. As a metal head Pantera was the end all be all. We called it “Texas Hardcore.” Long live the Dime brothers! Great interview, Rick!

[@baneverything5580]

I worked in Dallas in the mid 80s and went to see Pantera play and met Darrell. I was a singing drummer but he taught me how to tune an old Fender acoustic so I could tune the guitars in my band. In 2000 after I quit playing in bands I learned to play acoustic guitar. I met Stevie Ray Vaughan and his brother over there too. I had no idea what legends these guys would eventually be.

[@DonCollinsShow]

Except this isn't Pantera. And, Vinnie explicitly said it should never happen. He even named Zakk Wylde in that interview. I'm sure I'll get hate for my comment, but I'm only speaking the truth as expressed by Vinnie Paul.

[@TrevyTrev-andTheFunkyPets]

I know, but all their peers approve of it so they must know something of the inner workings of the band that us fans don’t.

[@oldscratch3535]

Vinnie had a chip on his shoulder and was blinded by grief. Blaming Phil for Dime's death was stupid. And Pantera is just as much Phil and Rex's band as it was Vinnie and Dime's. If Pantera was only Vinnie and Dime then why didn't they just call their new band Pantera instead of Damageplan?

[@DonCollinsShow]

No, it was not just as much "Phil and Rex's band" anymore than Van Halen was "just as much" David Lee Roth's or Sammy Hagar's. Pantera was founded by Vinnie and Darrell, not Rex and Phil. Vinnie expressly said he would never get someone up there to play Darrells parts and call it Pantera. I mean, you can pretend anything you want, but what is happening now is not Pantera and should not be called Pantera. @@oldscratch3535

[@DonCollinsShow]

I don't care what the "peers" "approve" of. What I know is what Vinnie said - publicly - till the day he died. It was Vinnie and Darrell's band, and the two dead founding members are now replaced by people and called "Pantera". It's not Pantera, it's a money grab by Phil and Rex. Now, if what you want to do is pay to see people make money off the songs of dudes who died - one of which was 100% opposed to what you are watching - then, so be it. But, to call it Pantera is totally ludicrous. @@TrevyTrev-andTheFunkyPets

[@garryaldridge7325]

Dave Mustaine next!!!!

[@forever3797]

Interesting to hear Rex - he sounds like the Cliff Burton of Pantera bringing in other types of more traditional music the band would not usually listen to and helping significantly with arrangements.

[@AttilaVorosOfficial]

Been waiting for this like ALOT!!!! So great to hear different perspectives and stories! Maybe because it;s 3 (+1) giants in the same room ?! Thank You for this interview! Wishing You All a lovely day!

[@johnnycage5481]

This isn't Pantera...Its a Pantera Cover Band with a Racist neo nazi singer who screams out white power during "a new a level" song and got booted off festivals and who's other projects like scour or down or the illegals hasn't done well or continued the legacy following that Dime Bag and Vinny left behind in Pantera. Its just a tribute band that needed to open for Metallica for the money.

[@Denbot_is_here]

Loved the episode, Rick! What an amazing gathering of musicians. Been a fan of all three of them in their bands, Pantera, Down, Anthrax, Ozzy and BLS. Cheers!

[@KylerSharp]

That was great! Bravo! Loved hearing it some of my favorite musicians discuss influences and dedication to their love of music! Way to go, Rick! Way to go, Rex, Charlie and Zakk!

[@dbmagee21]

Sorry. Pantera is not zack wylde and Charlie banante. They are fill ins playing covers. Effing pissing me off. It’s great they’re doing a tour but those guys wrote zero songs or riffs from pantera. Just stop

[@muriloninja]

They have been absolutely crushing it! \m/

[@TheInsaneChef]

Absolutely awesome interview Rick! Man, Zakk really gets its, I hope the kids out there really listen to what he is saying. Be yourself, play your instrument and you are your best promoter

[@johnmachina3081]

LOL! What relation do Zakk Wylde & Charlie Benante have to the Pantera group? The fact that they played Pantera s songs on a tour that the producers did to make money on the band's name? )))

[@BirdDogey1]

I first saw Pantera when I went to see some friends play a dive bar in Ft. Worth back in 1983 (I think). There wasn't even a stage. I got to stand about a foot and a half from Darrell shredding. Etched into my memory.

[@jimbograves1576]

"Pantera was a mash up of ZZ Top & Van Helen just sped up". Love it. Zakk loves to talk. Charlie is humble. Rex is cool.

[@kain3582]

Stop calling that Pantera should be like tributes to Pantera or just cashing in on the name cash cows.. Im only seeing one member and the other 2.. never have and never will be Pantera! Also a big middle finger to Phil!

[@JO3B1Shinobi]

All these interview's are so important for preserving their knowledge! Thank you, Rick!!

[@MrStrongbox]

Fucking love Charlie. He's an early influence on me musically, not only as a drummer, but Charlie wrote one of my favorite Anthrax songs. INTRO TO REALITY!!!!! Please do a "What makes this song great. Anthrax. Intro to Reality/Belly of the beast." Love your channel Rick. As an admirer of music, this channel is the best of them all. And now my 3rd edit, lol. 11:33 Rex just makes an underrated and underappreciated TRUTH. Anyone not familiar with older Def Leppard, just go listen to On Through the Night and High n Dry.