Pedalboards are for SYNTHS!

I setup my entire dawless live setup on one pedal board! I'll be using the Octatrack, Avalon Bassline, Circuit Tracks, and a compressor to tie it all together. This was the trials and tribulations of setting the whole thing up haha. So if you're down to learn with me, buckle up and enjoy the ride!
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00:00 My overkill live case
01:21 Figuring out the layout of the machines
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09:59 Connecting all the power underneath the board
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13:49 Adding Velcro to all the machines
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[@nkozi]

Put masking tape on your units before velcro. Adheres well and is still removable

[@LoveMeBack]

Too late.

[@G.GordonMidi]

Came here to say the same thing lol

[@dansimco]

thank you!

[@cooksoni.a]

masking tape can still leave residue in my experience

[@G.GordonMidi]

@@cooksoni.a Painters tape works the best. Never had any residue left over with that stuff

[@chrisbartholomew8772]

Bonus tip - after the UA Max add a stereo passive DI (the DBX DJDI is fantastic value) - sound engineers will love you and you'll never be at the whims of bad venue DIs

[@camjones9213]

I second this - I use it with my Elektron rig

[@m.a.6478]

Electronics guy here. I recommend looking at the power input specifications of all connected gear. Some units will draw more power in different working conditions. When on stage at higher temperatures, it might get narrow and a fuse in the supply might trip. I would always look at the maximum specified input current for each unit. That's the amount the manufacturer guarantees under the worst working conditions. If you have a pedalboard of that size and it's maybe easier to just get some AC/DC adapters with C14 inputs in brick shape (similar to the Avalon brick) and velrco or zip tie them to the bottom side of the board. Keep the Eventide for all guitar pedals and the equipment needing less power. Pro tip: Get AC/DC converters which can handle 230V/50Hz just in case you come over here to Europe one day ;-)

[@Bigger-Circuitry-Bigger-SOUND]

Nice one, now please a 2 hour compact creation with that box

[@screamingstrings76]

Welcome to pedalboard club, have fun lugging that beast around! If you ever need to remove the velcro, just put a bit of lighter fluid on a rag and rub that on the adhesive gunk, itll come *right* off!

[@wheatthicks]

Or Goo Gone

[@iiaaiiaannaaiiaaii]

One tip is to drop some pillows or rolled up towels or what-have-you, something soft and fluffy, on top of the pedalboard before you close the lid to stop the thing from bouncing around in transit. Also, you might be able to get a converter from Cioks that steps the voltage down for your Avalon. Nice video! I totally share your joy about things like this. ALSO: since every building has varying degrees of power quality, some being very dirty that can lead to gnar noise or possibly even fry your gear- I'd recommend bringing a decent surge protector along. Doesn't have to go in the pedal board case, and doesn't need to be a pricy power conditioner. I've taken to using one from the hardware store ( runs around $40) that has a fuse built into it which will knock off if a surge comes calling. Heard too many sad stories to mess around.

[@bradley3030]

I bought upholstery foam at a craft store and glued it to the lid using foam glue spray.

[@iiaaiiaannaaiiaaii]

@@bradley3030 That's a much more solid plan. hahaha. I've done that for smaller cases I've used for hardware boxes. Old VHS camera cases are a pretty good size if you can find one at thrift store.

[@bradley3030]

@@iiaaiiaannaaiiaaii I use the smaller Pedaltrain JR boards/cases for my samplers and another for actual pedals and they are a good fit and won't need any foam. But I needed it on my Black Bird case for sure. They were super generous on the inside dimensions.

[@FleeceMusic]

You can try 3M dual Lock - it holds pedals to the board a lot cleaner and also come off very cleanly. Also! Try cable tie downs under neath the board for cleaner cable management. I’ve done both these thing for my analog rytm board and it works and looks great!

[@iiaaiiaannaaiiaaii]

3M is the move.

[@leesimz_]

Exactly the way I went when I had to downsize my studio. Never looked back. Little laptop stand on the side to add and remove additional gear - as and when. Perfect..

[@lilyacedia]

Great video, always awesome watching you experiment, figure things out, and get excited! Hope the setup works wonders for you 🔥

[@tsound_]

How does Ricky always know my inner most questions and presents the answers to them

[@kaislate]

For less than $10 you can get a tiny credit card size 6V-32V stepdown to 3.3V, 5V, 6V, 9V, etc converter with LED readout and cable adapters. Super cheap. Then you can still run the avalon from the eventide.

[@g3cd]

I had tons of ground noise problems with cheap power adapters, I'm sticking to my Cioks / Voodoo pedal power hubs.

[@el_dani]

You don‘t want to put a 2000$ Synth on cheap converters

[@kaislate]

The risk is that you set the wrong setting and deliver more volts. Other than that there is no other legitimate risk. It either works or doesn't. As far as ground noise goes... Maybe. Doubtful if there isn't already noise from the eventide box then there prolly won't be additional.

[@thelevicole]

I love the Album Leaf. Reall cool that y'all are pals!

[@JamesRamboPearce]

I love how excited you are about cable management, I feel ya bro 🤣

[@RickyTinez]

Confirmed. haha! its the sampler things in life... simpler*

[@barbaramunar4553]

That is so cool.And helps you save so much time when you get to a gig.I love it!❤

[@industrialgradeacid]

I did this exact same thing with a Novo 32. At first I used it as a pedalboard for all four channels of an Akai Timbre Wolf for dynamic panning, then I sold the TW and re-populated the board with a Microfreak, Blofeld, Werkstaat, Volca (all same footprint), Kaoss Pad Quad, 2 Kaoss Pad mini's, and 5 pedals. I have to unplug everything if I want to put it in the case now, so it sits on my keyboard stand. The amount of desk space I have saved by planting these smaller pieces with velcro is priceless. I can link up other pieces of gear in the studio to the effects units on the periphery, and the Microfreak acts as CV for the Werkstaat and MIDI for Blofeld simultaneously.

[@dillonpreechmusic]

Game changer! Thanks for sharing! Love the shortening of the Elektron cord

[@bodega4174]

LOL.I love the genuine joyof organizing your things on a pedal board.Im a guitarist first so I know this glory all too much

[@ArielElijah]

Literally just did this with a 2-tier Friedman board. Fits the Keystep 37 perfectly on the bottom and my mc-101 on top with space next to it for other synths/boxes/pedals! Super portable!

[@Koettnylle]

Love the enthusiasm, Ricky!

[@BenCoeMusic]

Nice video! You can tell it’s authentic by how many ups and downs there were haha. Glad you’re so happy with the result! I did something similar a few years ago, my next step was 3D printing a case that I could play on the table or wear like a keytar lol that might be heavy with what you have though.

[@maarzt]

had fun watching this!

[@bermudateenager]

You are now truly initiated to the pedal board community. Once you get your building working down then building different board can be so much fun and a new avenue for creativity.

[@_B.C_]

Did this with my setup years ago after I had to help my friend evacuate his studio when some California wildfires threatened his home. Used gators 88 key tsa keyboard case with wheels (internal dimensions 4ft.8in width by 19in deep) that’s for some specific giant keyboard. Reinforced it by gorilla gluing the top and bottom with a fitted smooth brown hardboard panel. Then double sided gorilla taped a series of aluminum hinged laptop stands to hold the bigger gear like my sequencer, mixer and drum machine. Which freed up the bottom for 7 synth modules a sampler(blackbox that I use for mostly recording) and 9 guitar pedals. All placed with 3M dual lock tape. I used a 4ft long 16 outlet workshop power strip in the lid at its bottom. Wired it with hundreds of edged to edge self adhesive wire clips for zip ties and routed power cables first. Then routed audio cables (getting exact length was a chore. If I did it again I would just learn to solder my own, which would help with exact length power cables too), then midi from a through 24. And finally usb into an overhub. Still enough room to fit a very wide eurorack on the top of the lid if I completely lose my mind and smoke the eurocrack. I can power off the whole thing from the power strip switch, fold down the stands, wrap it’s power cable and final audio out cables inside, lock it and roll in less than a minute. Weighs a lot but I grew up lugging around a baritone saxophone, so it’s still manageable for just myself.

[@ridgerider7402]

Nice one Ricky, i have dreamed of this kind nd of setup. Kudos 👊

[@nodfactor8808]

I put painters tape on the bottom of my pedals before sticking the velcro on them. A little extra peace of mind. 👌

[@johnnythreshold]

Watching someone discover the joys of pedalboard building in real time made me smile extremely hard, and I'm on break at the hospital

[@TheSunshineGroup]

Been doing this and touring with a 2-tiered pedalboard as my synth rig for a few years now. I dig it because I don’t really have much GAS once I find the right fit, but hot damn is it heavy. However, my setup time is sometimes faster than the DJs thanks to having most stuff pre-plugged in

[@PixelBokeh]

Great info on the Evantide. Did the pedal board thing for a while and it works but made the move to 80/20 and built a custom setup that was much more versatile and just as portable.

[@jonaseggen2230]

If heat becomes a problem with the glue on the velcro, you can use cable zip ties

[@onesuavestudio]

tuck all the cables under and use zip ties to keep them tight, maybe add a bag inside the case for extra accessories

[@KanzeNYC]

Lmao seeing you so pumped about the power brought me so much joy and reminded me when I did this discovery. I've been using Cioks power supplier to power my Peak, FMR RNC, OT, pedals and more. So useful. Enjoy the discover bro. It's so much easier and lighter.

[@camjones9213]

I use the current double cable from Cioks for Elektron boxes to ensure that they get enough juice. Especially important for AH, ST, & flagships

[@jimlampshady]

Nice 1. Being able to quickly breakdown a show is the next best thing to having a technician to do it for you.

[@outdatedgear5036]

I used a onstage small pedalboard to put my digitakt and digitone on. Worked out well.

[@hazmatforhumanity7318]

It's so funny because your last video with case you used sent me down a rabbit hole of research and eventually setting up 3 volcas, Circuit Tracks and TR6S with 2 effects pedals on a pedal board. It was fun watching you go though the whole same process I did. I even used that power conditioner you used and ended up just velcroing it to the top. But I ak going to find a way to be more efficient next time.

[@jasonmads]

Looking at OT power requirements it is 12V DC, 2A (24W) and PowerMax is giving 12V 0.5A (6W) isolated (so outputs don't share loads?) OT manual says "Unit power consumption: 7 W typical," some some reports of peaks close to 20W. You might get away with things or it might glitch mid set and everyone will think it was intentional.

[@bradleydeandickson]

This is what I was getting ready to say. The voltage alone doesn't determine a power supply's ability to power your gear. Under powering your gear could lead to things not functioning correctly. Also, someone mentioned in another comment that you can use a higher voltage than what is called for. This is false. Match your voltage with what the machine requires. The machine will only pull as much amperage as it requires, so you can plug it into a power source that meets or exceeds what it is rated for. I've been looking for an isolated power supply that could power the digitakt (12vDC1A), moog Mavis (12v1.2a), and the microcosm (9v400ma). I've come up with nothing so far, so if you come up with something that works for what you're doing, I would definitely be interested in picking one up.

[@tiagorodrigues1442]

@@bradleydeandickson im actually having the same issue. I realized that my microkorg that i've been using plugged to a Ciocks DC5 needs 600mA to run properly but the max on the power supply is way less. I read that it may burn your gear or break something. Anyway, a solution that may come handy for you is the Cioks DC5 or 7. Works perfectly with your rig.

[@Jay.Ramone]

Great job. Now treat us to a live set using that exact rig!

[@dustyaudio]

Yes. I put a synth board together last month, very satisfying to pick up and go play somewhere else

[@LORANBELTRAM]

Love this video... lot of passion !! ... great... blessings

[@paulpuljic6025]

Instead of velcro, you can wrap the bars with grippy rubber shelving sheets, then bungee cord the units down when you travel with it...throw a light cover over before you strap it down...just an idea.

[@phyxirian]

Kudos for being brave with the Velcro! Sick idea, I have tried to solve this myself when I wanted to have use Ableton live to go live with some gear because my studio is also my work desk and being able to just store it like this would be bonkers.

[@jayjr.1865]

Cheers! Ordering Pedalboards atm :D

[@dyscotopia]

Woah. I'd have never guessed you're friends with the Album Leaf. Been loving their stuff for decades, but you've got quite different styles. Now I want to hear a collab 😁

[@fridmanator]

You should get a 90 degree 1/4 cables that will go down under the board, that would look lit.

[@nazarenomerino9142]

So much fun watching you find your way hahahaha, pro tip: black cable ties to keep all the cables underneath in place and without wearing out

[@drcustomblades2984]

you can rip off the velcro and use regular rubbing alcohol to remove the adhesive residue. Awesome case!!!

[@Daphoid]

Just be careful as RA will strip off those soft touch surface coatings / sometimes writing/printing on the back of a device.

[@DAMAGR]

If you don't want to put sticky velcro something, sometime ziptipes an be a workaround. I just ordered a bag of 6in extension chords for wall warts so they don't have to get jammed onto a power strip side by side. One last thing, ordering rolls of velcro strips is a game changer for a bunch of things like bundling cables up, but since you can trim to length, you could in theory make really big loops to hold the avalon down on the sides maybe?

[@abominablemusic]

I've adopted a similar approach for live synths, a pedal case for mixer, VL-Tone, and Roland Boutique plus a couple of pedals - makes set-up so much easier, esp, in an open mic set-up.

[@JH-lo9ut]

So, I have built something similair for my setup and one thing that always bothered me was that once you put down one row of synth boxes, the cables sticking out the back is preventing you from putting a second row of boxes there. I found an easy solution. You can buy this kind of rigid but lightweight foam, it is the same type that is used to furnish these types of instrument cases. (I'm not sure what it is called, because I got hold of a bunch of it for free, and it has lasted me for years). I'm talking about the semi-hard stuff, not the spongy matress foam. Anyway, I cut blocks or wedges out of foam, and use it to raise and/or angle the second tier of synths. Two foam blocks with a gap between them will let all the connections from the first tier pass underneath. The blocks get velcro on the top and bottom, so everything stays in place and everything can be re-arranged as needed. Another awesome thing I found, was a power strip with the sockets aligned side by side in-line so to speak, not one above the other, not angled, just in a neat row, spaced so that the ac adaptors all fit and stick out the same direction. This was just on the shelf of a random hardware store. I bought two right away but when I came back they didn't have them anymore. Keep a lookout for those, because they are gold.

[@thewesterj]

Nice ! I've been doing this for years. I just sent a Fireman Skb. Has all the power and outlets and is flight rated.

[@TyQuinn]

Would love to hear how this goes long term - especially regarding the Octatrack. Elektron recommends 12v at 2 amps, but the Eventide only puts out 500 milliamps when operating at 12v (only quarter of the current). But even so, it certainly seems to be working!

[@RickyTinez]

Whoa! That’s actually super scary hahaha. I played with it for about 40 minutes today and so far so good… hmmm I’ll double check how long this can last 🤞🏽

[@xfloodcasual8124]

The Octa draws a lot of those 2A when in play mode. Leave all the gear playing for an hour and check for any smells coming from the eventide lol.@@RickyTinez

[@eonz8]

@Ricky Tinez Some isopropyl alcohol will take that gunk right off with ease.

[@cooksoni.a]

you might be able to use isopropyl alcohol to clean off adhesive residue if you want to remove the velcro

[@EBMZEQUENZER]

I live 15 minutes away from Eventide CO. in New Jersey Cheers 🥂

[@AcidFink666]

I recently got a few Volca synths in a gear sale. I had a spare pedal train jr with a psu that was collecting dust so I put the volcas on there and it works great!

[@EE70-ko6hi]

Nice setup! Be careful not to bump into anything with the case though. The velcro will hold but the adhesive can let go of the synths. To minimize the damage if that happens, put the tray into the case upside down. That way the adhesive fails the synths don’t fall too far inside the case.

[@Dekkie61]

Pedal boards are for synths indeed! I build one myself from wood. Two stories with just enough space for cables, power, midi and USB hubs. Reason for all this: I want to be able to pick up the board, everything pre-wired, drop it into a case, go to the gig, pop it out, and connect power and audio out and be done. All this still has to look good, because the synths are in our living room (where I do not want an ugly flight case). Best 80 euro's spent ever! I did plan it out a bit better I think 😂

[@vonmalte5830]

Hey Ricky, really awesome video, as always. One tip for powering the avalon. You might wanna check out the myvolts usb power cables. They plug into a regular usb port and can output 6/9/12v. Cheers!

[@J_Carter]

Heyyyy, see you live soon! On my calendar now 🤎 New case looks tight!

[@RickyTinez]

Thanks again for coming out the other night J!

[@melihkaleciklioglu]

Building pedalboards will put you through aaaall the emotions haha Also Comes to Show how Important „boring“ things are, the Money best spend is on Utility that stays out of your way and just works. i bought a great noisegate, 4 cable method and all for the best cleanup, came to find out that my power was the actual Problem and once i got that it lived on my board ever since. The Gate on the other Hand only gets thrown on when i use my „real amp“ instead of my modeler, because tube amps produce Tube Amp Noise haha

[@grindFish]

I came across a similar big brain moment searching swamp industries years ago and found a pedal board case that could fit both my electribes (after a little custom carpentry fun times) i have two of em now and am running octatrack and bord drum in one and the other has been changing a bit but its all changeable thanks to velcro. Rocking up to a gig and having a full rig with only a couple of plugs to wire up is super satisfying 👽👌

[@EZBOT_]

Eventide power supply seems legit! I am picking one up, nice find!

[@rottenramone]

i have the pedaltrain grande and terra for both my setups. heavy as hell, but cables running underneath makes it neat

[@rogernorton6583]

I had the same convo with myself: "I don't really want to velcro down my (new item) do I? But I do want to play..." This is exactly the right thing to do for gigs A large pedal case and a keyboard stand cuts out almost all setup time at gigs. everyone playing hardware live electronics at shows should do some version of this. I personally hate connecting sound cables and power on stage in the dark when I'm supposed to be sound checking. I like plunking down on an x stand to run one power out and two 1/4" sound cables and setup is complete in 2 minutes.

[@briesmodular]

This is by far the best idea.

[@armandpistol]

2:51 - "damn man, this thing sucks [ese]" (final word added for complete rendition of message)

[@hasan7786]

Oooooo, was totally going to do this with a few chase bliss pedals and my cascadia and make noise trio.

[@jacobhanson606]

Hell yeah dude, I love plugging shit in.

[@timtam6369]

Lol. This is literally me on a saturday when I get the urge to rearrange the studio.

[@almightyEsquilax]

Oh shit, you're friends with the guy from The Album Leaf! That's cool!

[@almightyEsquilax]

OMG encabulator references!

[@LoveMeBack]

Velcro is a dealbreaker for me. But thanks for the tip. I just learned that Strymon has a polarity reverse cables. Now I can hook up my Octatrack to my Zuma.

[@Hrotti]

Live improv is the way, its so much fun... Produce songs, jam live!

[@phurniture]

Watching this was strangely satisfying… And in terms of velcro alternatives, what about zip ties/cable ties, whatever they’re called?

[@thelevicole]

Also, CME makes really slimline midi cables that are great for a pedalboard

[@HairySalamander]

I've actually been working on travel gear for my synths because I'm going on my first tour with my lofi/vaporwave/experimental band. I found that a 61 key keyboard case fits the minilogue and the bass station ii together perfectly. I use a lot of pedals with my gear so I found a small, two tier desktop pedalboard and a strymon pedal supply so I don't have to bring 5 extra wall worts with me

[@HairySalamander]

Also, I second what another commenter said about milliamps. That's very important

[@AdamsOlympia]

Would be nice if the Elektron gear had screw mounting holes in the bottom, as opposed to only the sides, that way all you'd really need is a thin wood panel on the underside of the pedalboard, screwing into that. Otherwise, I'd probably just fashion a couple wood or plastic shoulders for each side of my Octatrack/A4/MD, thick enough to support a firm connection from underneath. I'd love to have a few pedaltrains to turn into sliding shelves, one on top of the other-- Slide out the gear you need to use, then back into a protective enclosure when finished.

[@AtomskTheGreat]

if you are willing to tinker a bit, you can connect the avalon via a buck converter to the eventide to get the required 6v.

[@strangeattractor4959]

Pelican cases are rad!

[@g3cd]

I'm powering a bunch of my synths with a Cioks DC7 pedal power supply providing 9 / 12 / 15V and it fits perfectly under my pedaltrain (I think the Eventide is really just a rebranded Cioks). There's even the perfect holder for the pedaltrain available. Also the trick with velcro is: do not place it on the labels on the bottom as they will be damaged when you remove the velcro tape. That's especially annoying with serial number stickers. As for a 303 mono replacement: get a xOx bOx. Or a Norand Mono.

[@cBARR]

Great set up idea! Bungie cords would make the equipment safer when it’s being moved around. There will come a time when someone will want to help and might not place its down on the top side.

[@hazmatforhumanity7318]

Also pro-tip, nail polish remover will help you remove super sticky good from glues or stickers

[@GunkyFella]

if anyone finds this interesting, i would have a look a Tomas Dolas's synth setup. He is the keyboardist of Osees and his rig is in a guitar case as it looks.

[@willh7352]

Very nice.

[@Rattus9000]

I felt that trial and error.

[@krzysztofwaclawski9002]

great vid! that makes me think: is there a similar solution to safely hide/attach all those psu's in the studio?

[@rvller]

Hey Ricky! Congrats on getting this setup done! Is there a way youre keeping the gear inside this box without moving it inside?)

[@sketchdashaman]

that is sick!!! dude 👍

[@PinkBoardProducts]

How adorable is the synth nerd setting up a pedalboard 😂 I’m feeling nostalgic somehow. Pedalboards are just plain badass that’s an objective truth.

[@formerself4372]

I love The Album Leaf, they have been a huge inspiration for me.

[@Keysounds0]

Synth guy who uses pedals here - the first thing you'll want to get hip to is 3m Dual Lock. So much stronger than Velcro. It looks cleaner as well. It's what pro guitarists use 🤘🏼🤙🏼

[@cold_fashioned]

Now that you've been doing this live hardware project, I've been curious about end of chain sound conditioning. How has the UA Max compressor been working for you? I have been working on a live setup with Octatrack and wondering if I should look into a compressor or something to go after OT.

[@synthsamuraiproductions]

Very sweet synth board

[@mikegeary8056]

You can get sheets f removable vinyl used for glass. You could put a piece of it on your gear then Velcro

[@tarekith]

What shelving unit is that behind you with all your synths on it? Been looking for something similar for ages now. Thanks!

[@DannyTaurus]

He had it custom made, it's in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWbNY6RomNyMpLc

[@samanderson806]

Put masking tape on the back of your Avalon, then put the velcro on top of that!

[@giannifarris6060]

Nylon cable ties are your friend, Ricky. It's even possible to link them together if one is not long enough

[@Tymensliuzas]

Hey Ricky, I am working the Eventide PowerMax now but it seems I can't power the Syntakt because it has 12V 2A instead of 1A....... do you know the Eventide can manage the Syntakt?

[@gregkrukemeier2003]

Instead of Velcro, Zip-ties work well also on pedalboards. Velcro the power supply to the back.

[@thomashoffend4299]

Question: What is that chest thing with the drawers that pull out? I want one to help organize our studio/office. My wife will go crazy (in a good way) if I organize more with one of those. Also, once I got the layout fixed for my guitar pedalboard, I used cable ties to hold them all down.

[@FilippoCarrux]

Oh man!! The eventide is overkill!!! I'm interested to buy one... Could you please check if in the adapters given with the power supply is there one compatible with the model Cycles?