RAM MOUNTS X-GRIP VS QUAD LOCK | BEST MOTORCYCLE PHONE MOUNT | RIDE Adventures

[@mattdyer489]

I have had the x mount for awhile now, and have never used the rubber band. I have never had an issue. The quadlock looks like a better setup, but having to use their case is a deal breaker for me. I have to have a lifeproof style case for what I do.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Matt, great, but be careful, as not using all 4 corners of the rubber band is how that Rider lost his phone at 3:25 in the video. Fortunately, we rolled the camera like 0.5 seconds before this happened. Thanks for commenting, and RIDE on!

[@vlogcentral9303]

If you visit the Quad Lock website they sell a high quality 3M stick on quad lock attachment that can be stuck to a external case. So if you have a specific case you don't want to sway away from. You can buy the locking mount and stick it to the back of your phone case. This then allows you to use quad locks full range of mounting options.

[@dougabel4642]

@@vlogcentral9303 I looked at the quad lock attachment, and unfortunately, it specifies in the directions that it will not attach TPU, silicon, or rubber - something many phone cases are made of. Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of the Quad Lock, but as Matt said, it's kind of a deal breaker in not being able to use the case I currently have. I personally have a Ram Mount X-Grip, and bought it over 10 years ago when I first got an iPhone 4. The mount worked great for the iPhone 4, 5, and 7 that I had; I replaced the X-Mount itself in November when I decided to upgrade my iPhone to the 11 Pro, which wouldn't fit in the X-Grip that I had. I still have the mount itself, but over time, I had to replace the rubber tips, as RIDE Adventures mentioned had wearing and fell off. I will admit that mine hasn't had problems in that entire time (except for the suction cup mount starting to stretch and fade - but it turns out that RAM Mounts have a lifetime warranty on it, and that's not the X-Grip itself being reviewed here), and I haven't used mine in an off-road, dirt laden, temperature changing environment such as those that RIDE Adventures guides and clients go through, so mine may not have gotten the same wear as theirs. :) I think both mounting systems have their pros and cons, as listed, and I like the idea of the quick lock, rotating system - but I would see the case as a deal breaker - and I would likely have to move it further in on my windshield in my car, so that I could twist it in and not hit the A-Pillar. Likely, this is not a problem motorcyclists would encounter, but it's certainly something to consider as another possible issue. The X-Grip works best for my situation; I'm glad the Quad Lock works best for the reviewer's situation. :)

[@LJB006]

@@dougabel4642 Dude you can use more than one case you know, it's not glued to your phone

[@Ladosligese]

@@vlogcentral9303 and pretty much depend on TAPE not losing your phone ..

[@dirtyhabitz2888]

Been using the Quad lock system on my bike and car for around 18 months now, and so far it’s been great - I don’t even have to think about, it just works.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Super simple, we like it too.

[@jigerland439]

Good review thanks. I use the quad lock system for my own bike and my work bike (police off road team). Two points if I may - You can buy their adaptors which stick securely onto your existing phone case, which is what I've done. Also, be careful as vibrations from your bike transfer directly to your phone and in my case have wrecked the phones auto focus...

[@RIDEAdventures]

Jig, thanks for the note, and wow......we didn't know the police had such a team? Expect more applicants once they see that note : ) ----- Yea, a few folks are reporting that vibration damage, but we're curious and researching if this is happening on other mounts like the X-Grip, Quick Grip, etc. Please chime-in, folks, and RIDE on!

[@wradford1]

Was it an IPhone ?

[@gregoryaparker]

I've been using the RAM MOUNT unit for 4 years now with all 3 of my bikes and I've never had any issues. I've taken a 5 country tour, used 3 phones and still have the original rubber bands. I can't see buying 2 or 3 more cases to use a quad lock that's probably going to destroy my camera anyway. I've still got the 4 rubber bumpers but even if I didn't I still have the phone case of my own desire plus the small rubber pieces can be bought extra. The only good thing I see about the quad lock is that it doesn't obscure the screen which isn't a problem for me since I've got a massive phone anyway... Lol. I'm riding on the autobahn every now and then so I'll stick with my RAM MOUNT :)

[@RIDEAdventures]

Glad if it's working for you. Others have not been so successful with it as noted in other comments. Thanks for sharing!

[@ezlivin1454]

I have heard of phone cameras being destroyed due to vibrations from the mounts. Is this what happened to yours?

[@andyboyes05]

Quadlock every time for me, had 3 different phone cases but still on my original mount and no signs of wearing out. Quadlock have recently released the ring/popsocket which is another great feature to use even when your not on the bike.

[@RIDEAdventures]

BigBear Boyes, cool, we had not seen the ring piece yet! Great for the many folks who already use such. Thanks for the note and news.

[@pwestjr]

Thanks Eric! I have been considering the Quad Lock after using a Ram X mount but I finally decided to order the Quad Lock after watching this.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Glad if we could help!

[@rsmaster5637]

I use the Quad Lock for years .. dont even change it to a less bulky one in the winter when its not needed for the bike or the motocycle.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Right? It's a great case all the way around, and is always ready to be mounted for a ride. Ride on!

[@lostinjakarta8331]

been using ram mounts for years without problems. Agree though it is a pain to strap unstrap when you wanna take some pictures.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Yea, it does the job, but is just so much more cumbersome than the Quad Lock, as so many of us have found.

[@Weltbummler23]

Been using quadlock for 7 years. No problems and not switching.

[@Boothy]

i heard that the quadlock could ruin cameras due to the fact of the vibrations of the bike, has this happened or have you ever heard of this yourself?

[@ChuckFranco]

So I've been using Quadlock for a few years now and I love it. Although I do hate a few stuff about it. First off, I hate the fact that I have to have a dedicated phone case for it and each time I upgrade my phone I have to buy another case. I personally don't like to use the quad lock phone case on a daily basis since it's bulky. I'm a slim case kind of guy. So I would always have to switch cases before riding my bike, sometimes I would lose my case and have to look for it around the house since I don't use it very often. Another issue I have with the quad lock is, when you first purchase the case and mount, it would be rock solid and won't wiggle at all. After a while, there would be a significant wiggle when the phone is fully secured on the mount which will vibrate like crazy while riding and will lead to a broken phone camera. The new vibration dampening device is great but that isn't where the issue is, the issue is the actual locking mechanism. the teeth of the mechanism to lock both cases and mount gets shaven off over time, that's what makes it vibrate even with the anti-vibration attachment. I've switched to the RAM mount recently so I could just use one case and one case alone and wouldn't have to worry about the locking mechanism being loose over time. It definitely is a lot bulkier but it works a lot better for me.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Interesting, as yes, that would be one major bonus that the RAM X-Grip comes with: The ability to fit a wide variety of case sizes and thicknesses. We've even reviewed the RAM Quick-Grip since this video, but that one might not handle thicker cases either. Thanks for sharing, good point.

[@kb8940]

You ever thinking of doing a project with the case. For example simce you have a few old quad lock cases why dont you take a dremmle and cut the locking portion of the case, round or square the edge and 3M tape the piece to the a case that you liken

[@ChuckFranco]

@@kb8940 you know quad lock sells adhesive locking mounts right? 😅

[@frankiefrezza]

I’ve been using the Ram Mount for about 5 years, I have never used the rubber bands nor have I ever lost any of the rubber corner pieces. But the Quad Lock looks interesting.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Excellent, just be careful without the rubber bands....as our video shows, a rider lost his phone even with just 2 corners being held. Wish ours had come with the super glue for the corners! Thanks for the comment.

[@MrDickhead47]

Ahhhhh so THATS what the glue is for! Just got a ram mount today after almost getting rear ended from slowing down to fast to turn because of Waze in headphones

[@RIDEAdventures]

@@MrDickhead47, we, and many others, wish ours had come with the glue.

[@RDesrocks]

A friend got me interested in the QuadLock system . I use it on my bike , in my Jeep , and in my wife’s car . Love it !

[@RIDEAdventures]

Thanks for commenting, yep, it's so convenient. So fast.

[@extremetproductions]

I've used QuadLock since they were a kickstarter but now with image stabilized cameras in the phones (iPhone 11), vibration killed my new phone 4 times before I concluded it was moto vibration. For the time being, I have jerry-rigged my QuadLock onto a vibration dampened GPS mount. I look forward to QuadLocks solution to the newer mechanically sensitive phones...

[@RIDEAdventures]

Thomas, thanks for the report. Others have said the same/similar, and we believe the Quad Lock folks are working on a solution.

[@kukeleku007]

Hi Thomas, what kind of vibration dampened GPS mount did you find ?

[@extremetproductions]

@@kukeleku007 I went with the "SW-MOTECH Vibration-Damped Quick Release GPS Holder" for my F800 GSA, part no GPS.00.646.10601.B @ TwistedThrottle.com. They have this mount in different configurations depending how it's to be mounted. I have pics how I mounted my QuadLock to it if anyone is interested. 6 months and the phone's cameras still work.

[@kukeleku007]

@@extremetproductions Many thanks, I will look into it.

[@bobgrabowski2232]

Good Video. Really informative. Leaning toward the quad lock now.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Bob, enjoy and let us know how it goes please. Despite a few haters' claims in the comments stating otherwise, our comments on each product were sincere, and from direct experience.

[@nathanboeger978]

The biggest problem I have with phone navigation is using it during heavy rain. I rode a lot in South East Asia and tropical rains are epic. The rain would hit the screen and mess things up. The phones I had are highly water resistance so they did not break. They would just do odd things when rain directly hit the screen. I have started to use beeline and that seems to work well. I can put the phone away safely and simplify my navigation. I still have yet to use it on a long trip though...

[@RIDEAdventures]

Good tip, had not seen Beeline before, but thanks for mentioning. We're actually headed out to film some more reviews on other mount options today. Here in the High Desert of the Pacific Northwest.....where we get very little rain.....so yea, we haven't addressed the moisture issue much.

[@janra8653]

Running the X-grip (40$) with/without rubber mount for 8000km on my 701E. So far no problem. The rubber caps should be glued in place.

[@MotoTrooper]

I cover mine up with a satchel type thing when I'm not using it, it works to keep it protected from the elements and vandals

[@ericg2007]

I used an Xgrip for about 4 years. Everything worked great, until it didn’t at 50 on a causeway. Switched to the quad lock and I’d never go back.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Seems like we got hosed on the superglue that was supposed to come with the X-Grip. Maybe it would have stopped the rubber nibs from tearing so quickly, and disappearing. Just such a hassle to use when compared to the Quad Lock, that we've missed photo ops accordingly. For us. To each his own, and folks should use what they like.

[@StinkyFeces]

Eric G was this the model with the spider rubber bands

[@15Kilo]

The RAM mounts inadvertently presses the buttons on the side of my phone....very irritating. I think I’ll try the quad lock. Thanks!

[@bobmcgrath1272]

Yes!

[@alexlexusZXpredator]

I hated when my volume button would go and get pressed 🙄

[@fiddleronthebike]

I use Quadlock for years - on the scooter, the road bike, the gravel bike, the car - simply everywhere. Never had any issues, great usability and great quality! The only downside is that the phone gets a bit more bulky due to the case, but thats not a big deal after all...

[@numpty94]

The case is pretty similar to normal cases, it's not an Otterbein where they are bulky as hell

[@numpty94]

Otterbox *

[@Transmissions]

I’ve lost a phone due to the ram mount. I had a model they sold before they started including the rubber band. I’ve also lost those rubber pieces. Finally went to quad lock and never looked back. I’ve got the wireless charging head on order and plan on using my ram mount to fuel the fire for next camping trip we take.

[@RIDEAdventures]

BJ, thanks for that info, and ha, ha....that poor X-Grip. Subscribe and you'll see our upcoming comparison of the Quad Lock to the RAM Quick Grip. While we're big fans of that Quad Lock......they sure do have a competitor in that Quick Grip.

[@2wheelAdv]

Used them both. Quad lock 💯! Good review 👍

[@RIDEAdventures]

Thanks for the note, and RIDE on!

[@Paisteboy]

@@RIDEAdventures That's why it comes with glue. Not sure why they don't glue them on from the factory though.

[@RIDEAdventures]

@@Paisteboy, right, why not from the factory, and ours came with no glue. Peculiar. Other riders have complained the same though.

[@wradford1]

I've had an xgrip for years , glued rubber bushes on and always used bungy fastener. Never had a problem with grippers or phone falling out. But I have heard of and seen it happen a few times from people not using the bungy fastener 🤔 But the xgrip is not compatible with my Samsung s9 because the grippers push on volume or on/off buttons. So I bought the Quadlock and Ram ball attachment and I couldn't be happier. It's definitely worth ditching the old xgrip and upgrading to a Quadlock 👍

[@RIDEAdventures]

Glad to hear that you found an option that works. Thanks for sharing! (Especially important for maybe other S9 users to see this before buying.)

[@VFRyan800]

And the much cleaner look when the phone is not in the mount, so long as you buy the black lock tab extra :P

[@wradford1]

@@VFRyan800 But the blue lock tab matches the top of my Ohlins forks 👍

[@VFRyan800]

@@wradford1 Noice, but black compliments/matches 99.99% of all others. Custom caps? I have seen only gold, yellow or are you talking about MTB vs motorcycle?

[@wradford1]

@@VFRyan800 Motorcycle forks

[@alienlatino2945]

The problem at 3:48 is simple to overcome, just add superglue to the metal and then shove those rubber things on, they will never come off.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Yep, but as mentioned below, ours didn't come with super glue...and so we never considered it.

[@MrScaracs]

also.... the ram mount upper 2 arms put pressor right on the iPhone button, ending up sending an emergency call 911 on my 1st use on my atv! I'm moving to quad lock for my atv and my Harley

[@philippelemaire4884]

I have xgrip and as per instructions, I glued rubber tips and never had issues and never fell (I never use rubber band). Quadlock throws me off because of other negatives, try putting it on a wireless charger... also I switch my cell from motorcycle to car easily event if different holders.

[@gerrycout7845]

Ram mount is the absolute best. Been using X-Grip for years without even using the elastic and never lost the phone on incredibly rough roads. Top quality. Top adjustability. No wear whatsoever. Used by all police forces and airplane industry. Can fit any phone, anytime. No special case needed. Other company‘s case looks like crap. Do yourself a favour and go with the X-Grip.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Gerard, thanks for sharing your experience.

[@SvenTSchixe]

If you combined both of these mounting technologies it would essentially be the ultimate unit. In a minimalist way try to keep the steel arms of the ram mount and rubber corner slings away from the most common areas for the camera and secure, however not totally on the screen on the front side then just twist it on the mount and it is secure. No need for a special case and totally secure. Pretty well a win win situation. Take care🇨🇦🍻👊🏍

[@RIDEAdventures]

Yea, we just struggle after catching that Rider's phone falling off his bike from the X-Grip at about 2:30 something in the video (although he thinks he only had 2 rubber band corners attached. Was tired of doing all 4.) Glad we all have options, thanks for sharing.

[@SvenTSchixe]

@@RIDEAdventures And you as well for making this informative video. Safe trails my friend 👊

[@alpha1k-]

I used the ram mount for 1.5 years on a 2017 cbr1000 without the rubber band and super glued the rubber tips on and never lost one and my phone never fell out... also i had the bigger form factor iphone 6s plus. Smaller phones don’t secure as well with the ram mount but if u have one of the bigger phones its very secure and you can get away with not using the rubber bands. Biggest thing with the ram setup is to super glue the rubber tips on. Its very secure and survived many wheelies.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Glad it's working out for you. The rider who had his phone pop-out in the video didn't have all 4 corners of the rubber band on (to best recollection) but it had also survived wheelies with him, too : )

[@vlogcentral9303]

For anyone that wants to use the quadlock but doesn't want to use the quadlock case for what ever reason. Quad lock produce a stick on attachment that you stick to the back of what they recommend a phone case and not your phone due to how secure the adhesive is. This then allows you to buy all the mounting options and accessories that quad lock offer.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Sounds like it takes care of the issue of having to buy a new case, or having a phone that they don't make a case for. Thanks for pointing this out, RIDE on!

[@vlogcentral9303]

@@RIDEAdventures Not a problem. Yes quad lock produces this stick on attachments mainly for phones that they do not supply cases for as well as customers who obviously would prefer to use there own case.

[@2cwaves432]

AFTER WATVHING YOUR FILM I ORDEDED QUAD LOCK STRIAGHT AWAY THANK YOU

[@zeeshimon7138]

Thank you so much man! Please do more reviews on everything you need to be global.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Thanks for saying so, yea, we post every-other Sunday morning. More ahead : )

[@jared123123]

My ram mount came with super glue for the exact reason of those rubber pads. Super glued it first day, have had zero wear and no slip at all coming off the metal pegs for a longgg time. Does what i need it to anyways

[@combatveteransride5796]

Couldn't agree more, I live my Quadlock

[@michaelwalker3920]

I’m kind of an enigma. I have different cases for different occasions. One slim case without screen protector for every day. One case with built in screen protector for work (Firefighter) and now a Quad case for riding. I can easily change out cases as needed.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Varying levels of protection by situation, and ease of transfer.....we like it.

[@erictrejo9065]

After a few close calls with the ram mount almost losing my phone i switched to quadlock

[@briteidea08]

I know this is a few years old. But quad lock does have an adhesive lock. So you can essentially use any case you like.

[@FreakinPeanut]

I've been using the ram mount for road rides for a few years, it's going very well, however when I looked into getting a quad lock mount, many mentioned that their phone camera modules were damaged due to vibrations not getting dampened. I stuck with my x-mount since I don't subscribe to buying phones that cost more than some of my vehicles (since quad lock only makes cases for expensive phones.)

[@murasakifjc]

they have a huge selection of phone cases, so I call BS on that point. However, if you do own an expensive phone, no mount is going to prevent damage to the OIS, so you should keep it in your pocket or in a bag anyways.

[@W0rp3D]

I have been using a quad lock on my motorbike since they only made them for bicycles, have crashed my motorbike twice (on the road) and my mtb many more times, never broke or damaged my phone, my body hasn't done so well lol

[@RIDEAdventures]

Hang in there, be careful, and maybe the Quad Lock folks can make body cases for us soon : ) --- Until then: ATTGATT

[@MrDAVIDRACE]

Yes I argree with all you have said and I actually do the same job as you in another country. Thanks for the video and safe travels.

[@ronansmith8381]

Buy the universal stock on mount and move it over to new case/ phone when you need to. Cheaper easier and somewhat less waste

[@RIDEAdventures]

Ronan, do you mean the Universal Mount for the Quad Lock? Yep if so, we just have to change out the phone case when we change phones, (which seems to when we buy new phones anyway.)

[@ThreeWheelTherapy]

I have used both, the quadlock is rock solid, the x grip not so much. Worth it

[@RIDEAdventures]

Sabrina, glad if you like it, too. We've got another review coming up, now doing some testing of the RAM Quick Grip and Mob Armor Switch. Thanks for commenting.

[@ians474]

Nice RAM vs Quadlock review. Thank you sir

[@RIDEAdventures]

Glad if you liked it, thanks!

[@dawn-moon]

Quad Lock is by far the best one I've used so far, both on my KTM SuperDuke and my KTM Adventure 1190R. Big negative is you have to basically buy either a popular Samsung or Iphone, that's it. I've been using waterproof Sony mobile phones for years and I got the best results with the Touratech I-brackets for my Sony's. But once I got the Quad lock with their in-house compact handlebar mount, I don't want to go back any more. So I'm stuck with a Samsung S10 now. Not so bad, but I would have preferred they make cases for all flagship phones out there.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Indeed, and with as much good press as Quad Lock is getting with time, we're betting they'll be ready to offer for more and more phone models. Gotta be a tough, tough market to stay in line with, and stocked for.

[@MacDaddyC7Z06]

I like the ram mount cause I don't have to use a specific phone case to use it. I use a otterbox case to hold my phone in a clip. It would be a pain changing back and forth

[@RIDEAdventures]

At the risk of sounding like we're deliberately trying to sell the Quad Lock, have a look at their website, as they actually now have utility belt/clip that might make your whole setup more streamline. --- Not sure how easy it is to get in and out of the Otter, but the Quad Lock case is fast and easy on and off. --- Have fun out there and thanks for the comment.

[@killerdonkey5750]

Gotta glue the rubber bits on

[@vongdong10]

You don't need to buy their cases. They have a universal mount that you can stick onto anything with a flat surface.

[@pballa1994]

Lmfao who is they?

[@vongdong10]

@@pballa1994 Quadlock you twat

[@bikesanddrones1206]

i have the quad lock mount can't recommend it enough seen afew people loose phones on the road with the ram mount

[@RIDEAdventures]

Excellent, and yea, it's super secure and convenient.

[@roblow5522]

I have never used the X-Grip but I don't like that design but I do have the RAM Quick-Grip and I loved it until I got a larger phone now I need to upgrade to the larger holder. You can buy just the holder without buying the clamp and arm. I have had my Otter Box cases save my phones twice, once I drove my phone over with a mini excavator and another time I lost my pone on the street. Both times the safety glass was shattered but the phones where fine, so for me giving up my Otter Box or switching back and forth with the Quad Lock case is a non starter. I am sticking with the Quick-Grip it is a much better system than the X-Grip.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Roblow55, wow, your protection with the Ottters seems well worth sticking with it. And yea, we're seeing some good comments about the Quick Grip by RAM, so we'll get some test riding in and a review out there soon for such....and maybe some others. These 3 seem to be the only ones folks are mentioning. Thanks for sharing the info.

[@slow2K2GT]

Just bought a Quad Lock and after owning both mounts, will not go back to Ram Mount. A common complaint about Quad Lock system is the bulge in the case but I don't mind, especially with how well the case is made.

[@RIDEAdventures]

The Ram Quick Grip was a stellar improvement (see our other video on that) although someone has reported having a phone ejected from that one, too. Quad Lock: Great solution, but maybe get their vibration dampener (if you haven't) to avoid camera damage. Thanks for sharing.

[@joecaljapan]

It you buy a quad lock, you should get the vibration dampener to protect your phone's image stabilization function

[@butcherman1234]

Good job, a couple of questions. 1) does the quad lock mount fit directly on the cb500x mounting bar, i see you used a RAM adapter? 2) can you orientate the phone sideways on the quad lock or only up and down? Thanks you I really enjoy your vids.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Thanks for the kind note : ) 1) This is the only mounting format we've tried, but if you check their website, I think you'll find some band/wrap-type mounts for handlebars. (Maybe more mountain bike-ish though.) 2) Yes, orient anyway, as with RAM ball mounts, you basically have 360 degrees available.

[@Jon-um9gf]

Have you tried the Ram mount quick-gip xl. Seems lots of people ran them years ago when phones were smaller and now they have a XL version for larger devices. I love the fit, feel and function of the the quad lock but I've gone through 2 cameras so Im back to the x-grip.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Jon, excellent info and we're noticing many more comments pointing toward the Quick Grip being something to test and review. Likewise, others have had camera damage with Quad Lock it appears. Thanks for chiming in, and please stay tuned.

[@76kwame]

Just glue the rubber pieces in place and forget abt the rubberband. I have a nice case and don't want the other ugly case ;-) And with x-grip = wireless charge!

[@RIDEAdventures]

Anders, yea, others are talking about the wireless charging being a that perk our X-Grip didn't have. ---- Careful though, that moment in the video where the Rider's cell phone ejected from the bike? That was using only 2 of 4 rubber band corners. With 0 corners being used, be extra careful! --- Thanks for the comment.

[@bigmacthebusdriver]

Quadlock has a wireless adapter for their mounts. It’s not as secure as the regular mount, but it is an option.

[@mattiep6692]

My ram mount came with glue so I glued the 4 rubber pieces and the bolt caps on the handlebar on

[@mira]

My experience - I had a problems with RAM mount - so one arm pushing turn off button on side of iPhone and you have to setting phone in the mount for while to avoid this. So, for me - Iam looking forward to buy quad lock system.

[@joshdupont2209]

I think you will like it. I have had mine for a couple months now. I have the car mount with wireless charger. About to get one for my new to me motorcycle, along with their phone poncho

[@RIDEAdventures]

Mirek, despite accusations of bias by some, our review was sincere, and we think the Quad Lock is better for the aforementioned reasons. RIDE on!

[@kaleduprey8873]

I’ve had the quad lock on ram adapter in my truck for months, no complaints here!

[@RIDEAdventures]

Excellent to hear, glad it works for you.

[@chainsawversustree]

The latest iPhone camera stabiliser does not like being mounted on motorbike handlebars, in short it ruins it, I had to get camera replaced. I don’t have phone mounted anymore.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Good info, makes us wonder if Apple and the big mfg's have actually warned us of this somewhere?

[@jlopez2351]

Never again Ram i lost my phone...Now I'm Using Quadlock the best Mount ever recommended everyone must have riding motorcycle or bikes

[@RIDEAdventures]

Excellent report, thanks for sharing. The RAM Quick-Grip is actually excellent though. We agree about the X-Grip though : )

[@lankyluc]

Love my Quad Lock!

[@RIDEAdventures]

Lucas, we do, too. So fast and simple, and great protection when it hits the ground (so many times....ugh....need to be more careful : ) --- Enjoy, and RIDE on!

[@black_phantom7506]

Good reviews. I had a Ram X mount for a few years. For the first few years it was great. However, humidity was wearing into the rubber holders on mine and softening them up. Over time they would leave a black residue on my phone case, until one day on the highway doing about 80, one of the rubber holders fell apart and in effect my phone shot out of the holder. By some miracle I put my hand there in time and barely caught it. I had to pull over to put my phone in my jacket pocket. When I got home and inspected I realized all of them were melting like this and i got rid of it. I picked up a Quad Lock case, and while locking the phone on and off takes some getting used to, its as solid as a rock. I even got a mount for road and mountain bicycles when I ride and just ordered one for my car. Never going back to RAM

[@RIDEAdventures]

Black_Phantom, thanks for sharing. That story, and yet there are people commenting suggesting that we're only "selling" the Quad Lock because of some sponsorship or whatever. --- On the flipside, stay tuned for our upcoming comparison of the Quad Lock and RAM's Quick-Grip. "There's a new Sheriff in town."

[@joefishnc]

I switched from RAM to Quad, I like the Quad cause it is smaller when phone is not on it, you can get your phone off and on with one hand, you can flip it from verticall to horizontal. The bad, I can not use wireless charging, case just too thick. Case slides easily, wish it was more rubberized. It's not universal so a buddy using your bike can't use it unless he has a quad lock case also.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Hmm, in at least the GMC Sierra shown in our recent video, wireless charging still works great with the QuadLock. Hope yours eventually does, too.

[@Ferg-1958]

Hi from the UK thanks for the video. I had quad lock and it is good however, I found after a while, the plastic does wear, so I now use rokform, which is similar to quad lock but seems to be better quality and very secure. hope this helps somebody. I have subscribed : )

[@RIDEAdventures]

Thanks for sharing, and subscribing.....RIDE on! A few folks have mentioned the Rokform so maybe we'll have to check it out.

[@ashleyroffe]

I contacted Rokform for a mirror stem mount, and they offered me a sport bike stem mount. Then, they said they don't ship to the UK. I found them very unhelpful as a company, considering I was ready to buy. Quad Lock for me now, and I cannot see any issues with it. They make a vibration damper, also, so there is no reason for phone damage. It works better than any other system I have tried, and they are a good company to deal with. I agree 100% with this review!

[@0racle999]

Thanks for the review! I'd love to be able to use Quadlock, but they don't make cases for the Huawei P20 Pro and I don't feel like trusting a piece of 3m tape that's on the universal Quadlock... Ram it is then!

[@RIDEAdventures]

That may be a point that Quad Lock struggles with over the years, constantly coming up with cases available for the ever-changing cell phone market. Oh well, if the RAM works best for you, enjoy.

[@paulcrombach7262]

I have an Oneplus which is also not supported by quadlock. I bought the universal 3m sticker one and stuck it directly to the back of the phone. Unfortunately my phone turned out to have a non-stick coating resulting in the sticker coming loose. Luckily this was on my bicycle and I could grab my phone while it was bouncing around on the handle bars. I've contacted Quadlock and they apologized and send me a new stick on universal mount. I've now stuck it on a non-rubber case for my phone and it is very solid. Have been using it ever since and it survived going over cobblestones while hardmounted on my racing bicycle so I would say it is solid enough. Just make sure you have a good case to stick it to

[@benjaminlawrence2864]

As below I had a quad lock case mounted onto the 1” Ram mount on my Zx10R but it’s caused damage to my IPhone XR. The camera does not focus. Emailed Quadlock whose reply was “the damage seems to be isolated to the camera image stabilisation mechanism of the phone and appears to be caused by the high level of vibration experienced on some motorbikes. Certain combinations of phone and motorbike seem more susceptible than others but we are still gathering information and do not have a complete picture at this time” as stated they are working on a Dampening system to rectify but buyers beware as it cost me nearly £100 to get the camera fixed. 2 others I ride with have different bikes, mountings and newer IPhones and they have had the same issue

[@RIDEAdventures]

Good info, thanks for sharing. Just curious, were you using a RAM ball or the Quad Lock Moto Mount kit? We'd like to start getting some info on complete setups, and maybe we can give feedback to all on which setups may lead to damage. --- Bummer about your camera.

[@Laplandia11]

Yes, this is my main concern as well. Bikes are known to ruin OIS cameras on phones. Quad looks superior in most aspects, but rubber on X-Grip probably has better vibration dampening.

[@benjaminlawrence2864]

Ride adventures all 3 were differently mounted, 2 quadlock mounts and one Ram 1” ball mount. 3 newish iPhones. 2 sports bike and one adventure bike

[@RIDEAdventures]

@@benjaminlawrence2864, thanks. Not far off it sounds like from what most folks are doing. Still curious to see if any of these mfg's can come up with a solution to avoid all vibration damage. It's a tough situation for them: Too tight and firm, OR too loose and 'vibratory' of a mount would put stress inside the phone. Wonder what the right/safest frequency of vibration is. Big topic for electronics engineers to comment on, if any are watching?

[@timdvs8974]

Damn, just had the same issue with my iPhone 11 but I hadn’t pinpointed it to the quadlock. A real bummer as I really like the mounting mechanism

[@somedudeona6367]

What kind of drop protection does the case come with? If nothing else can I use a defender pro case with it

[@RIDEAdventures]

Pretty good protection for us so far. My iPhone in the Quad Lock has been dropped ??? many times, sometimes pretty hard in the last 2 years, and still works fine. Never damaged.

[@fredrikmartensson5036]

Just lost my phone with x-ram the other day. The straps burst on my x-ram on the ride before. And during this thursday when i hit 200 kph my Huawei p20 took air, never to be found again. Now i'm typing this from my Huawei p30 pro. Luckely it was on sale. If you're planing to use the ram mount, make sure to always use the safety straps.. Clearly they're there for a reason. Edit: The straps burst on me because The Huawei p20 pro is a big phone. I would not advise you to use it if thats your case.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Fredrik, good tip and points. While sun exposure, dryness, time, usage of the rubber bands etc. all contribute to the demise of those rubber bands, over-stretching them probably accelerates that process. --- Careful out there, but have fun and thanks for the comment : )

[@ohrodrigs7970]

You forgot to mention one of the outstanding features about Quadlock and this is why I love mine. It is very practical to use as your everyday phone case and is always good to go. The design is sleek and slides right into your pocket without fuss or bulk. Also , there's a variety of mounts so you can go from bike to truck dashboard with ease. Quadlock is so versatile and convenient. The rest of your comparisons are pretty good. Not sure I would highlight that Quadlocks plastic housing can wear out since you yourself mention there's no evidence of it.

[@RIDEAdventures]

OC Rodriguez , that's an EXCELLENT point, and the reviewer (Eric) has actually migrated to using the Quad Lock case full time as well when his other (more expensive) case had a failure. ---- Right, we haven't seen failures yet in our operation, but see Mr. Rutherford's comments below and Quad Lock's response, as apparently there has been at least that one issue.

[@ohrodrigs7970]

@@RIDEAdventures thanks for sharing

[@FishmacFLTRU]

Love the fact that he’s using a phone with a smashed screen in the quad lock ...

[@RIDEAdventures]

Hmm...it's actually only the screen protector that was cracked from other things....definitely not a smashed screen.

[@MauroSodanoVisions]

I tested ram xgrip and stem mount on my GSXR. It does the job but ram xgrip is a poorly designed universal phone holder. It holds the phone in place but the stem mount is bad designed (you have to cut yourself the mounting insert to install it into the stem and it self destroys after the first turn of the nut...), does not lock in place and it touches the aluminum stem with the risk of scrathces. The x grip does its job but looks weak and woobly, the rubber holder looks like it is going to break only if you stare at it... I bought it and returned. Better consider other brands such as SP Connect or Quadlock.

[@danieldemulder4903]

I've used xgrip, but one big downside for me is how exposed is the phone to the elements. That will happen also with the quadlock. My expierience was the dust damaged the speakers and charging port prematurely, so i, decided to get the more complicated and ugly phone bag for safe keeping the phone on offroad.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Indeed, neither mount does much for protection from the elements, and unfortunately, bags and dust protection has shut-down phones from getting to hot in the sun and overheating. We're probably not to far from a future of impermeable phones (hopefully.) Thanks for the comment, RIDE on!

[@PremiumK9Krunchies]

Ram mount is an absolute pain. The x mount contact points always land on my side buttons making my phone go crazy and the elastic bands can barely stretch over my Note 10+ Takes a long time to get it unstrapped just to use it. Quad lock is the way to go.

[@RIDEAdventures]

J.J., we thought about the same, definitely preferring the Quad Lock. Puzzling how some riders seem to adore the X-Grip though. Good thing we're all different : )

[@ponytrishpip]

I have used both. The Quad lock is way better

[@RIDEAdventures]

It's just so quick and simple. Thanks for the comment.

[@Max-rs3mh]

I got rid of my ram mount and orderd the quad lock, my phone would walk out of the ram mount on my motorcycle, i will put the ram mount in my car so it's not violently shaking as bad

[@to-yg1tx]

I placed a strip of 10lb velcro on the ram mount's center bit (where the ram mount and the phone case touch) and on the back of my phone case/lap timer. The rubber band kept breaking and this was the best fix I found. No need to use rubber bands anymore.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Wow, at some point there, it became "not a RAM mount," but a good fix nonetheless. Yes, the rubber banks seem to annoy many of us. Oh well, whatever works. Thanks for the comment. Ride on : )

[@to-yg1tx]

@@RIDEAdventures The X bar still holds the phone/timer in place, the velcro just serves as a backup - same as the rubber band. Don't have to fiddle around with it either.

[@RIDEAdventures]

@@to-yg1tx, as noted in our video when that Rider's phone popped off, "good idea." We were lucky the camera was rolling.

[@ParrotHead1809]

Although I'm a Ram/X-Grip user, I have to say that you are spot-on with the hassle of removing the phone from the cradle & rubber bands - I find myself just leaving it on the bike sometimes, when I know I should be taking it with me - even for a minute. Also, i find that the left side of the x-grips messes with the volume up/down buttons which causes some issues at times. Great Review. I'll look at the Quad Lock when my X-grip dies.

[@RIDEAdventures]

ParrotHead, thanks for the good feedback, and it sounds like we've had a similar experience with the X-Grip. Some folks still love it apparently, but we can't imagine going back.

[@kevinthailand2567]

The ram x grip is old tech. Their newer grip mount is built solid and holds any size phone with case. It's a pressure mount slide grip and I have ridden many thousands of kilometres without an issue. A great mount and would have been a better updated comparison to the quad IMHO.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Yea, we're hearing about the newer Grip mount now, somehow missed it before doing this review a while back. When the rider lost his phone in that one moment in the video review, falling out from the X-Grip, that was in Thailand, for a fun BTW : )

[@anthonyross3957]

Thank you. Great review

[@RIDEAdventures]

Glad if it was helpful, thanks for the note.

[@Avensur]

Quad lock it is 👍💪

[@VFRyan800]

Quad Lock one second one hand, RAM two+ hands and those bands can be even more cumbersome with heavy gloves.

[@James_4444]

I have the quad lock and it has been great however.... I'm in a rtw ride from australia to the UK and twice the case has failed and warn out. I'm on my second quad lock now and after just 5000km the case has fully disintegrated at the top, the phone stays locked but it wiggles around roughly 2inches and is only getting worse.

[@Quad_Lock]

Hey James, thanks for your feedback but this shouldn't be happening we'd love to help you out. Please contact our support team as we have a 1 year warranty on all of our products? support.quadlockcase.com/hc/en-us

[@RIDEAdventures]

Interesting, and this 'possible' wearing out was even mentioned as a Con in the video. Good share, thanks for the info. Looks by other comment that they have you covered though.

[@RichL123]

I wouldn’t be surprised if this was some unique user error. I’ve been using quadlock for a long time and the case is really durable.

[@kagome4life456]

Shame they dont make a case for a pixel 4a, only the 4 and 4a 5G which are both different sizes. guess i have to go with the RAM

[@Shanadriel]

Never forget that the “quadlock” holder transmits vibration direct (which the xgrip does not), so when you use the quad lock and your phone lose the capability to focus, as for example with iPhones and galaxys the camera lens get affected by the vibration as it literally displaces parts over time, then don’t get surprised you are not the first. Read forums from users more then common issue. Sad really but real deal breaker, as even the chance that it will damage your phone makes it fall out of options.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Yep, such has been noted below, and Quad Lock folks say this is on about 1% of all cameras....definitely not exclusive to Quad Lock mounts though. They all transmit vibrations. Maybe some more than others, but all Users should beware.

[@Shanadriel]

RIDE Adventures Unfortunately iPhone 11 Pro is one of these, I did sacrifice 2 phone of 2 before realising it’s the mount swapped to ram, and no issues since. I was lucky the phones where under warranty and Apple replaced them. But just as you said good sir, buyers should beware.

[@brandonbennett6211]

Me and my bike went sliding down the highway at 50mph last Saturday, bike is ugly now and some of my gear is chewed up but my xmount held onto my phone so I could retrieve it and call an ambulance for my buddy that went down in front of me and broke his ankle.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Wow, glad it sounds like you're both okay-ish, and chalk on up for the XGrip keeping your phone in position.

[@alexdeleon8507]

Quad lock requirement to use their case not good. Travelers like me use charging cases (the case gives me an extra 1.5 days of charge) and wouldn't want to give that up. A better design would be to supply an adapter for the locking mechanism that can go on ANY case. Then I would get it.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Alex, if you check Quad Lock's website, I think you'll see the type of adapter you're referring to. Thanks for sharing.

[@kallehagstrom-adventuresincl]

Good, informative video! Thanks!

[@ana-py3vz]

I had the ram x mount totally messed up my phone and the camera is messed up. So I switch to the quad lock when I upgraded my phone. Even got the vibration dampener

[@RIDEAdventures]

Ugh, bummer to hear of the camera damage. Seems almost every mount out there has damaged someone's camera thus far. Actually, I don't think we've seen anyone with the Quad Lock and Vibration Dampener report damage yet. Thanks for watching..

[@richardshipp6996]

I got rid of mine and went to Quad Lock. The X-grip was just too bulky and I didn't like the scissor mechanism.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Glad if the Quad works better for you. Some folks below have seemed offended that we like it more than the X-Grip. Thanks for the comment.

[@CoachDIY]

My quad lock case wore out after about six months. Ram for me .

[@RIDEAdventures]

Yeah that is the only downside is the wear and tear of those two plastic pieces holding things in place. Thanks for your input.

[@hidden_killz5102]

Ram includes superglue so you don’t loose the rubber fingers, additionally ram mount has a life time warranty while quad lock offers a one year warranty.

[@GS-xg4nz]

About to buy one and this video was helpful, thank you. Quad-Lock for sure. Cheers

[@RIDEAdventures]

Gary, excellent, thanks for the note. Have fun and see you out there.

[@quadscull4x]

Quad Lock on bike, push bike, and car sooo easy to use across three different vehicles

[@RIDEAdventures]

So convenient, thanks for commenting!

[@badass1g]

What about using the quad lock as a selfie video camera? Would it work or is it to many vibrations for video?

[@RIDEAdventures]

Hmmm....probably depends on the bike, engine, phone, riding conditions, etc. Anyone out there doing this?

[@82718804]

All modern iPhones seem to have an issue with camera "wavering" due to motorcycle vibrations and renders photography and video useless, i use the quad lock and is a great product BUT beware of this issue whenever you use an iphone on your bike.

[@EugeneAinos]

Paul Turner I’m experiencing it on my main iphone camera but not on the front cam... weird

[@RIDEAdventures]

Paul, thanks, and yes, some folks are chiming in on other comments about these camera damages. All Riders: Beware. We have had no such issues though.

[@__petrowvv]

This was so useful thank you👍

[@RIDEAdventures]

Glad it was helpful!

[@josephxanthopoulos]

You don't have to get case for quad lock. there is a base you can stick on your case. And you can get the quad lock stabilizer . And of course you can get the cheap quad lock 10-20$ on the web and don't pay the brand. Thank you. Joseph Santorini Greece.

[@RIDEAdventures]

They do a good job at keeping the quadlock case price down compared to companies like otterbox or peak design.

[@KrypteiaXi]

Would you trust your 1200€ iphone on this crap?

[@josephxanthopoulos]

@@KrypteiaXi yes. it's the best. It's the same. from the same factory without the BRAND cost. It's like China motorcycles VOGE (900X) sell the same moto with BMW but brand-name is leveling the price ..... it's so many examples........... and my opinion is that US is going to war against China ,pretty soon.......... because US want to still be the first power........ ps: crap is your iPhone. but this is other discussion. just keep pay brands . they love your money.

[@farmin_bug]

Very helpful. Thank you.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Lorenzo, we're glad if the info helps!

[@avayehvasch7991]

I would love to get quadlock or rokform but neither one of these brands make cases for my phone (one plus)... so i guess RAM it is

[@markwalker6692]

I got the ram mount and didn't like it. One this is that it takes way longer to put your phone in it and attach the rubber band and on top of that, the ram mount hits the buttons on the side of my phone and the rubber band covers part of the screen.

[@RIDEAdventures]

Mark, seems like we have about the same sentiments about the X-Grip. It does it's job, just a bit more of a challenge to use and inconvenient than other options. - We've got more reviews like this on the way, so be sure to Subscribe, and thanks for the comment.

[@nathanboeger978]

I used the ram mount a lot and the grips will activate some phones side buttons. On my iPhone X, I had to slide the phone way up because the side grips kept turning down the volume to mute. I also had problems with a Samsung curved screen. The side grips kept activating the stupid bixby thing nobody wants.

[@RIDEAdventures]

@@nathanboeger978, definitely some quirks and flaws to the X-Grip, although many riders appear to have perfect success with it. Probably depends on the phone, as mentioned.

[@adammendelson8975]

Well if you would take the time to use the included super glue with the x mount the rubber would not move or fall off also I have never had the rubber bands break

[@RIDEAdventures]

Adam, as we said multiple times below, no super glue came with our unit, and that's great if your rubber bands haven't broken yet. It happens to others as documented below though.

[@Pmason718]

I have always used the X-Grip I had it on several of my bikes but recently I've switched to the Quad lock and I doubt I ever go back to the X-grip

[@RIDEAdventures]

Pmason718, thanks for the note, and great that you found a better solution. Now to choose which of those bikes you'll ride next ..... : )

[@JUNIORGONG.ASFxCK]

rubber mounts on the ram mount come with glue, if you didnt put it on you will lose the rubber knobs. it has not failed me yet. but i would like a more sleek mount someday

[@RIDEAdventures]

Hmm, ours didn't come with glue, but other riders below have commented on the Quick Grip (name?) by RAM being the newer, better option? Some have said the phone can be put in/out with 1 hand, which we like very much.

[@JUNIORGONG.ASFxCK]

@@RIDEAdventuresthat sounds pretty awesome, i also like the 4 mount in this review. i like how convenient that new mount sounds.looking into it, thanks again!

[@chilliburn1]

No need for rubber bands, i use the x grip on a mountain bike which cops a hell of a lot shake and abuse compare to road trail bikes and i have never dropped my phone, heres the secret. slightly bend the tips of the e grip towards the centre and Super glue the little rubber caps on.... Boom

[@RIDEAdventures]

Chilliburn, good tip, thanks. The rider who lost his phone in the video had 2 of the 4 rubber band corners affixed, but had not bent the tips. That's a good one. Also wish ours had come with the super glue for a better experience. Thanks.