Ridiculously EASY Way to Tempo Sync Compressor Plugins

[@davidasher22]

60000 / tempo = 1/4 note (ms). I do tempo sync my mastering compressor to the lowest fundamental frequency. Helps prevent distortion.

[@machineagevoodoo2106]

nonsense!

[@davidasher22]

@@machineagevoodoo2106 absolutely true. If attack and release time are smaller than one single revolution of a wave form, audible distortion is produced. Setting up a mastering compressor to be in accordance with the lowest fundamental will result in cleaner compression. Just because you don’t know something doesn’t make it nonsense.

[@romanboiarchuk2048]

@@davidasher22 boss

[@arkhon_beats]

@@davidasher22 bro can u explain it in a better way, like which compressor and how to select lowest fundamentals?

[@ASJerrell]

@@arkhon_beats as frequencies (“notes”) get lower, they take longer to fully cycle / resonate. If the attack time of a compressor is shorter than the time it takes for a frequency to complete at least one cycle, it can distort those frequencies below / before that time. The lowest audible piano note is E0 (20.60hz), which takes 50ms to complete one cycle. That is an extreme example however, one octave up E1 (41.2hz) is the lowest note of a standard tuned Bass guitar, which only takes 25ms to complete a cycle. Therefore, setting your compressor’s attack time no less than 25ms would be a safe bet, if E1 is your lowest fundamental. Simply adjust accordingly to your lowest fundamental.

[@mikeymoo71]

Great tutorial - tried this out and suddenly I got the groove I'd been lacking - cheers!

[@gaagoimusic]

I knew about reverb sync but it's the first time I hear about compression sync. Thank you very much for this knowledge. I've been choosing release times at random, mostly relying on my ears. But as I think now, drums and rhytmic elements should be synced for better groove. Just as you say.

[@AntonioRockGP]

I all ways do that intuitively. Never thought about note values before... Great video and great tip! I usually exaggerate the compression and set the release by ear until it pumps with the track, then I turn down the compression.

[@RaytownProductions]

Sounds like you don't even need the note value haha! Thinking about compression this way allows you to double or half the value for more options.

[@cary3428]

Like Antonio, I do it by ear, but I’ll definitely check this out.

[@shanonkiyoshi4784]

🤩 OMG! I've been CALCULATING milliseconds for ALL my effects -- not just compression -- since I discovered the amazing DIFFERENCE it made (especially in REVERBS! 🤯) ... but I had NO IDEA *HCOMP* CALCULATED this information for you AUTOMATICALLY 💥 ... and I *OWN* it! 🤦 So THANK YOU SO MUCH for THAT tip! Just goes to show, when in DOUBT, *RTFM* 🤣😎👍

[@RaytownProductions]

Hahaha! It really does make a difference. Especially when you stack lots of tracks. Cheers!

[@datked]

Use a delay time chart for reverb, delay and compression. I've had hcomp for a decade and only til last year I discovered it lol now its my main go to. The glue and coloration is almost analog to my ears. Also use the waves mv2 compressor...amazing.

[@rome8180]

That's a cool feature. I own H-Comp but never use it. Did I mention I own too many plugins? Lol. When I do want to tempo sync my compressor I just do 60,000/tempo of the song. That gives you a quarter note. Then I further subdivide if a quarter note seems too slow.

[@thedevilsadvocate5210]

What are your favorites

[@nastika888]

thanks for the cheet sheettttt

[@pierreluniere]

I got a bunch of Waves P.I’s Black Friday a while back, including this Comp. Love it & use this tempo sync function a bit.

[@eranddroory9987]

Great vid. Thanks Bobby. 🙂

[@realmusic4you]

Great tip. Using Cubase you can select the loop event, then using the musical mode, the loop will sync to any tempo that you have or change. To make the desired looped tempo permanent, use render in place or export the loop. Thanks for sharing such a useful video.

[@gregkocis]

Thanks just got the H Comp I will try this on my Rear Bus

[@modernman4269]

great video I have this plugin years and didn't know I could do this thanks you !!!!

[@DrawingBase]

I wonder if it works well on vocals...

[@logenninefingers3610]

excellent tip thanks!

[@Truth565]

Thanks 🙏🏾 dude. That was very helpful 😊

[@celiooliveira4191]

VERY GOOD

[@alsstudiocreative2102]

Great tutorial. Thank you.very much.

[@michaelrichardson8343]

Great tip, I will definitely be syncing going forward.

[@roelgarcia]

Thanks so much , great tutorial

[@SingularityMedia]

The problem with this method is that compressor topology is not standardised. The release time is on average the amount of time the compressor takes to replace 2/3rds of the gain reduction (in the same way that the attack is the amount of time the compressor takes to get to 2/3 of its maximum gain reduction), However the millisecond measurements are arbitrary. 300ms in one compressor won't be the same as on another. The curves can be different, the input response can be different and that 2/3 rule for attack and release is just a rough average, not a rule in compression topology. So..... Do it by ear, the numbers don't mean much.

[@HeartleaderMusic]

It is a nice trick for Sidechaining but for glue compression? Attack time refers to the time it takes for the signal to become fully compressed after exceeding the threshold level. Release time refers to the time it takes for the signal to become uncompressed after subceed the threshold level. Means depending on the decay curve of the audio the release starts earlier or later. E.g. if you have a 808 Kick the release begins very late and for a Snare it starts the release starts earlier. Going back to the old days. All Glue Compressors in mixing consoles has fixed ms not variable attack/release ms values and million of hit records was made without tempo synced glue compression. It could be a good starting point for beginners but if there is coming a long 808 Kick it could happen that the release is not ready before the next transient hit the compressor but for the Snare the release is final before the next drum hit happen. So the release time must be short enough not hitting the next transient but long enough that it not start pumping (beside if you want that pumping).

[@athornsound304]

Thank you for this video. I do have a question regarding H-Comp and gain staging. A lot of the Waves plug-ins that replicate analog gear ask users to mix at lower levels to hit the sweet spot, I was wondering if H-comp falls into that category? I checked the manual but didn’t see it mentioned.

[@dystopiannoise6782]

I think i remember getting this trick from a black sun empire tutorial only using the h-delay

[@martinmisenta]

Really cool cheat shits! thank you for your effort and generosity!

[@RaytownProductions]

Thanks for hanging out with us 🤘

[@spnova6960]

\ AMAZING TIP /

[@PatrickObiang]

Bravo!

[@NillerVision]

If you want to have completely accurate timing, you should substract the attack time from the value for the release. Otherwise the relese wil end later than an 8th note. But I feel that you should only be using exact timing as a starting point. Often the most interesting results are when the release time is a bit off. Same thing with tremolo, delays and other rytmic effects. Use your ears instead of linking everything to the DAWs tempo. Your ears will tell you if an effect setting adds to the groove or not.

[@1bunedung-b3s]

How use it on vocal

[@larrycavallucci3258]

With just using this on a drum loop, are you also saying that the best place to put the H-Comp, is on the Main Out or Master Bus while Mixing the song, or on a separate track, use it in the mastering process and where to put it there. I have Studio One Pro version 5, so I use its Project Page for mastering. I mainly use the Waves MV2 compressor, or one of their CLA compressors. I have but have not been using that one, but will give it a try now. Thank YOU. I like your videos! I saw some comments below talking about Delays. I am careful on how I use Delay plugins and mostly use them on GTR tracks, and I'm careful on how I do that, so they dont get all jumbled up in the Mids....sometimes less is better all the way around. I have used a Delay on my lead vocal, and what I use is the CLA Vocals plugin, for both reverb and delay, if I use either one of them. Besides, I have too many plugins as it is, and as of the end of this month, will go into my BROWSE section within Studio One, and start to go through them, as there's a section in there where you can see which ones you've used and WHEN LAST USED, so on those, I will start using the HIDE feature! haha...And BOBBY, for those of us with TOO many Plugins in the same category---like HOW MANY EQ's do you really need?----I think it would be interesting to WATCH a VIDEO by someone who covers that topic......i.e., if you have TEN Compressors, for instance, which one do you use for which application or need? THAT is a real challenge for me.

[@RaytownProductions]

Haha I know that feeling all too well. Maybe I can make a video on how to deal with plugin overload! But this plug-in can be used either on the individual or master bus. Both work great. For master bus you really want to be gentle with it to prevent the song from pumping too much. It can make you sea sick if the song bobs up and down too much. Trust your ears and reference songs you know sound great for comparison to make sure you don't overdo it. Hope that helps!

[@datked]

I like using the h comp alongside the mv2 on vocals, kicks and bass...plus the punch function on h comp is really 👌

[@larrycavallucci3258]

I use the MV2 as well, as it's an all-in-one to also bring up the lows, as datked said in a reply. SO I will try both together. And Bobby, I am very careful when using EQ when Mastering, BECAUSE, when you do even a tiny bit of a change, it affects the whole song. I am also a "tester" of my own methods. Yesterday I tried using just TWO plugins in mastering one of my ballads. The bx-masterdesk True Peak, and ReMaster Media's RM PRO, and WAH-LAH, it worked very well in that instance. I also LOVE the ADPTR Metric A/B for a number of its features, but also that you can load up to 15 Reference Tracks in the plugin, that I cannot do without, along with Waves WLM plus 5.0 Loudness Meter.

[@arielellunatiko2761]

and the crazy thing is no one not even top notch pros speaks about this

[@D16-i5n]

hey dude why all compressors dont have the tempo sync feature?

[@RaytownProductions]

Good question! I wish they did!

[@ApexLaneProductions]

Because this isn't a good blanket solution for every scenario. It's better to learn to hear the compression with your ears (I get it, it's really hard at first. Took me years to really be able to hear it). A lot of the time, what sounds best might not be something so mathematically precise. Sometimes, for the best groove, the release time needs to swing a bit. That's more a matter of feeling, not euclidean reasoning.

[@shangrilahc]

Any tips for tempo syncing 76 type comps?

[@shangrilahc]

As well as the g comp by ssl style

[@RaytownProductions]

That is trickier because of how fast that compressor responds. Two suggestions come to mind. If it has a "delta" mode, use that and find the setting that pulses with the beat of the music. Otherwise you can use the gain reduction needle graphic as a way to get a sense of the release timing. Find a setting that bounces to the music. Then fine tune it with your ears. Go heavy with compression here to really hear the movement of the compressor, then dial it back. Hope that helps!

[@pimcramer2569]

Anyone know if there are bass guitar pedals who do this?

[@DycayBeats]

I wonder why not many compressorsout there have tempo sync release feature. Simply why and why am I always calculating release time manually based on the song tempo☹

[@datked]

Delay time chart is what u need...every tempo has its release settings...just find the tempo and dial in the parameters

[@aZeee]

I understand that using tempo i ms for release opens up the release “in sync”, but why would you? Why not just trust yours ears when putting in release? And in mastering? What. Usually I want a fast release to not get the pumping effect, trying to be transparent

[@RaytownProductions]

You absolutely should trust your ears at the end of the day. The tempo timing sheets give you a good starting point. If it needs adjustment from there, then absolutely adjust it. Thanks for the good comment 🙂

[@datked]

Delay time chart works better for finding releases to the tempo...your mixes will be smoother

[@slavamogus3187]

60000/100

[@johnisrael5183]

H Comp Could easily be Waves Best Compressor But…. Klanghelm DC8 Track Comp And Magic Death Eye Stereo blow HComp away..

[@blackink9555]

Does DC8 have tempo sync feature?

[@johnisrael5183]

It does not, but it sounds a lot more vintage analog I have analog gear, and use it during mixing and mastering so I know how analog sounds from digital

[@johnisrael5183]

If Waves Would have made that sound a little more analog as you turn the analog knob up that would’ve been it, they would’ve done it as far as modern compression in the DAW they would’ve had the best plug-in as far as the compressor

[@blackink9555]

@@johnisrael5183 Oh that's great. I have MJUCI and I really like it. I want to try DC8 too. Do you have any other recommendations ?

[@johnisrael5183]

The Best All in one Is Track Comp 2 And U He Presswerks…. Matter fact, due to functionality. Those two are tue best

[@datked]

H comp is my go to! Amazing....just to add...you might wanna use a delay time chart to actually sync the releases per tempo...I find it to be more precise than quarter note syncs.

[@RaytownProductions]

Good to know! Thanks for sharing 🙂

[@datked]

@@RaytownProductions been doing it for a few years now...and adding a summoner vst like the waves NLS on the master bus helps to hear your compressor and eq alot more clear while giving it more character

[@Crossfire2003]

Great video! Unfortunately, it is no longer relevant for most of the people! #WavesSubscriptionPlan #GoodbyeWaves

[@rhemaman]

What? Why? Far too complicated, not accurate enough, and inferoor in flexibility. I never even thought to temp sync a compressor until today, but this is definitely not how I'd do it. Create a click track out of a midi loop. Run it on a parallel playlist track and send its audio output to the sidechain of your favorite compressor. This gives you many plugins to choose from, control of how much of the effect to send to the sidechain, ability to align the entire song if tempo drifts, and the ability to edit moments for personal taste.

[@rhemaman]

The sidechain is there for a reason and far more useful than most ever discover. Personally, I believe more types of plugins should have them and not just dynamics processors.

[@rhemaman]

Think about it do you know how useful it would be to have a Reverb or delay plug in with a side chain that can be flipped to inverse?

[@rhemaman]

The modern Adventures of dynamic equalizers where you can set it to which band is actually reacting and how much is proof of what I'm talking about

[@rhemaman]

To be honest I'm wondering how long it's going to take the industry to come up with parametric side chains where every plug-in has one and you can assign it to any parameter and even multiples with macros. Synths have had this for more than a decade

[@mcdove]

How do you calculate the Attack time relative to BPM?

[@RZkillz11]

I do sync my bus compressor but I do it by ear and visually by meters but that's obviously less than 100% accurate doing it that way

[@sarahitimothy1104]

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