Right - Left Brain Worldviews and the Kabbalah - Iain McGilchrist & Hyman Schipper

Dr. Schipper received his M.D. degree and a Ph.D. in neuroendocrinology at McGill University in 1982. He completed residency training in neurology at Columbia University in New York and a fellowship in endocrinology at Tufts (Boston).
He is currently Professor of Neurology and Medicine (Geriatrics) at McGill and director of a neuroscience laboratory at the Lady Davis Institute in Montreal. He has published over 200 papers on Alzheimer disease, Parkinson disease, schizophrenia and other chronic afflictions of the brain and mind. Prof. Schipper also writes on the interface between contemporary science and the Jewish mystical tradition (Kabbalah). His research in this area was published in Yeshiva University’s Torah u-Madda Journal, in Unified Field Mechanics II (RL Amoroso et al. eds., World Scientific), Bar-Ilan University’s DAAT: Journal of Jewish Philosophy & Kabbalah, on Chabad.org and Beyond Belief. He is the author of Kabbalistic Panpsychism-The Enigma of Consciousness in Jewish Mystical Thought (John Hunt Publishing, 2021).
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[@christopher_ecclestone]

I'm reminded of the Leonard Cohen lyric: "There is a crack in everything, That's how the light gets in."

[@waitingforthemoon9492]

What an insightful conversation. I have been waiting a long time to listen to Iain discuss Kabbala with an orthodox Jew. Quite a synchronicity that this video went out on Yom Kippur! As someone who grew up and was educated in the Chassidic world and finally exited it later in life, this discussion highlights perfectly one of the primary reasons for my leaving. Judaism is still wedded to the Bible and its somewhat primitive, commanding and controlling deity. The Rabbis of the second temple period and onward were forced to morph Yahweh into a more acceptable God with the emergence of Greek thought but couldn't jettison the Bible without committing cultural and religious suicide. As a result, what the Rabbis were left with was a kind of hybrid God. Judaism is primarily a religion of commandments (613!) from their God who needs to be an all seeing, all knowing deity who can punish and reward freely chosen compliance or disobedience accordingly. It is this unsustainable dichotomy that the Kabbalah tries to address. Iain’s intuition brings him very close to Kabbalistic insights but he has no need to go down the unnecessarily convoluted and paradoxical Kabbalistic path (Keter/Radla etc) because he isn't a follower of any religion. It is precisely this that makes Iain’s work so attractive to me. I jokingly refer to myself as a McGilChristian. In my mind, Iain’s overall intuition about God is closer to the truth than the Kabbalah’s (at least according to Dr Schipper) simply because he isn't limited by dogma and left hemisphere thinking.

[@soullabcollective]

I love this. Interesting insights. Thanks. McGilChristian! That is awesome.

[@chophop99]

Yes! "McGilChristian! Thank you! I now have a true identity! 8-)

[@animamundi1]

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[@jsjm7519]

@@davidbr810 כבר מאוחר לי כעת. בינתיים לילה טוב

[@vidyakara]

As someone who nothing about kabbalah, Dr Schipper's presentation was a gift. Very clear and, since he was responding to Iain's work, very relevant. 74 illuminating minutes. Thanks

[@oviandfamily]

As an orthodox chassidic jew i very much enjoyed this conversation. Thank you very much. That being said, i was very surprised to hear some of hardline stances that Dr. Schipper took regarding certian ideas. There is really is no debate that many kabbalists, chassidic masters and sages believed that not only do human beings play a pivotal role in channeling or harnessing the Divine flow but the Divine is 'in need ' of us to do so. The Zohar, Midrash, Pri Ets Chayim, certain early kabbalistic sages like Adam Horowitz, even the Gemara ( see berachot 7a) all state this as a fact. Even the idea that Hashem doesnt know( in the way Mcgilchrist uses that word) what will happen in the future; while not a leading perspective , the Ramban states that Hashems knowledge of the future is only knowledge in potentia. Anyway this a very brief, comment towards these complex issues but i was thoroughly disappointed in the way these couple areas were addressed. That being said, i am very happy to see continuing discussion, in such amenable and harmonious spirit.

[@huguettebourgeois6366]

Thank you so much for this conversation - this world may be ill but this is the first time in my life that I have access to such an inspiring conversation. Thank you!!!!

[@shari6063]

Wonderful conversation! The frequent references to Bohm brought Matthias Desmet’s work to mind. I would love to hear a conversation with Mathias and Dr. McGilchrist. 🙏

[@yosefrazin6455]

I wish he had brought in how tikun, the fixing of the vessels, is achieved through participation and attention that gives rise to emergence from below

[@Dani68ABminus]

What a wonderful guest! I am months late, but I would like to say thank you to both of you. What a gift to be able to listen and learn.

[@Complaints-Department]

In the middle of listening to your book the master and his emissary, thoroughly enjoying it so far :)

[@javadhashtroudian5740]

Thank you both. The sephirot system of trees within trees within trees could also be thought of as fractals as well as holographic. Also if we consider the pillar of mercy as the right brain then the pillar of balance may be akin to the corpus callosum.

[@ketherwhale6126]

Or Mandala’s- like what you see in Persian rugs.

[@cynthiaford6976]

A profound choice for Yom Kippur, like the blowing of (perhaps) 8 shofars. And for the third, this is the final stanza of Leonard Cohen's poem "All My News": 5. Undeciphered let my song rewire circuits wired wrong, and with my jingle in your brain allow the Bridge to arch again. from The Book of Longing

[@surfism]

Might the idea of a transcendent God simply be the left-brain's interpretation of the immanent God, which the right-brain is better equipped to understand? The transcendent version of God might then be seen as a simulacrum, devised by the left-brain to aid communication.

[@YANHAP1]

Such joy. Wonderful. Thank you.

[@ruthlewis673]

It would be interesting to hear this same subject by two women with the same credentials. Men, typically don’t speak about their experience it all remains speculative.

[@rossbrockway2996]

Thank you for this excellent conversation!

[@lindacarroll5018]

Thank you both for this most inspiring conversation.

[@robinrobinson6714]

Thank you Dr. McGilchrist for introducing me to Dr. Schipper! I had to immediately purchase his book! His work is extremely important for my own work, academic or otherwise. Your work is extremely important too!! It must be closely followed. I plan to become a member of your channel as soon as I am able to. Bless you both!😊

[@victoriaw.17]

You have BEYOND more than two minutes. GW This was Amazing!!! Thank you.

[@maggen_me7790]

10 out of 10 to this ONE.

[@miranthevanstaden7958]

This is just fantastic! Thank you to Drs Hyman Schipper and Iain McGilchrist for combining and comparing mysticism and science in this podcast. I learnt and confirmed so much listening to this! "Everything is glowing with loving kindness! We just can't see it" That's what artists and poets are for, to help us see this!

[@luluwebdesign7854]

I am in love with your left and right hemisphere, Dr.McGilchrist! My world became a better place after discovering you and this conversation was fascinating. I couldn't help thinking that it might be interesting to bring Donald Hoffman into the discussion, because of his views of time/space. I was also thinking how embracing the paradox of two things being right at the same time, could also apply to the space/time vs. no space/time. Also, perhaps its a romantic notion, but I truly don't like the idea that God has no interest in love! It would be great if you two wise ones would go more deeply into all the facets brought up here. Thank you so much!

[@alexnewton7484]

Ironically, kabbalah seems to be an incredibly "left brain" approach to spirituality, attempting to break it down into parts and analyze it intellectually. Nonetheless it does have some allure and I can see an obvious parallel between sephirot and chakras, which is interesting.

[@oliviergoethals4137]

thx you very much for this one ! Its connecting a lot of dots !

[@Esembee.]

Imagine if Carl Jungs work was bought into this "mix" more, I say more because I have heard him most relevantly mentioned in other chats I've heard of Dr Mcgilchrists. Fantastic conversation none the less, I was very pleased to hear David Bohm being referenced. I think Dr Mcgilchrist is one the most important minds of this time, keep helping to bridge those "either or gaps" you splendid fellow.

[@DreamingOfABetterDay]

I love talking about God, or as it be, listening about God, Thinking about God, Feeling about God. Truly Amazing. Thank you. 🙏 best Emoji ever.😊

[@victoriaw.17]

I’m not sure why when the discussion of LOVE came in it was an “ISSUE”. TIFFERET is LOVE. and important part of the creation. It is about Love on this Human journey. Mitzvots without Love become Acts of Kindness without Purpose. ACTS without LOVE is SERVICE ONLY. Mitzvots WITHIN LOVE is the purpose. Combing LEFT Brain. With RIGHT Brain IS THE MIDDLE PILLAR CALLED LOVE. And that is the biggest GIFT we have been Bestowed. The ability to LOVE. G-d Never withdrew the light. We Within free Will chose to Conceal. The light is all there is!!! It’s a constant.

[@victoriaw.17]

G-d knows. The story begins with “In the Beginning.

[@thevintagemom5455]

Would love to see a tour of your library! Or a listing of your favorite books/texts/verse.

[@LeeGee]

"...music is built in octaves" -- maybe for Plato, but ...

[@sheilaeisele8490]

I deeply appreciate your discussion and the distinction you make between the Kabbalistic teaching which suggests God already is complete and process theology which emphasizes the becoming of God---God vulnerable to creation, responsive, having chosen this relational aspect as essential to God's being.

[@theobservereffectexplained1102]

Thank you 🎉

[@projectmalus]

Dr Schipper's conversation on the Philosophy Babble show is really good too. That part about God and the tension from withdrawing (if I got that right) rather than asserting...a spontaneous human thing is a standup comic and their audience, where the pattering of applause withdraws so the outrageous juxtaposition can happen again, to be pulled down by the repetitive periodic giggles and clapping.

[@PhilCallis]

What a great crossover. I have a video about some equations that I believe represent the Kether-Malkhut emanation at the level of physical forces.

[@varnamaxim553]

Hey! Could you please share them?

[@PhilCallis]

@@varnamaxim553 it’s on my channel

[@christaniese]

Thanks so much for this talk. So inspiring. I find Dr McGilchrist's words so insightful when, towards the end, he says that the problem with a reductionist's view of the world is that "the bits were never separated, they were just a highly differentiated whole. In that differentiation there was not ultimate division in a separative way, there was just distinction, which then enriches the wholeness." Hope I got the wording right, but it is enlightening to me. Thank you 🙏.

[@projectmalus]

At 1:06 the unit circle as a coil of wire that can be pulled by time into a sine wave, it has girth like a serpent so the wave is a spiral thru the 4 quadrants of the unit circle. Imagine a bracelet of sine wave close to the origin and another further out on the perimeter, adding the angles and multiplying out on the perimeter to keep up, this can go to multiplying at the origin and exponents at the perimeter. If the exponents are interaction sets for people, a person is 2^1 (person and world), partner as 2^2, individual in a group as 2^3 which is 8 potential interaction sets. If moving from exponents at the origin to the Z axis thru...Fourier? Not sure. But 2^5 including wildlife could produce an interesting object as 32 sets, that starts to resemble the planet. Thanks for the show!

[@cheri238]

Thank you, Dr. IIian McGilchrist and Dr. Hyman Schipper, for this discussion with my very little understanding of all this. But the "awe" of it all is the budding of us in us all, if I may add. I listen to "Esoterica" with Justin Sledge and Filip Horne "Let's Talk Religion," and I learned quite a bit about different religions there. I suggest Dr. Iian McGilchrist's books and lectures to all he speaks to plus everyone on all subjects to all that I know. These are very important subjects for world today to listen and learn, especially about love and all of us in it.

[@ketherwhale6126]

Ever hear of the term “ left brained prison”? Language places you in time and a conceptual world which everyone must adhere to to make this fiction work. You are infinite but placed yourself in separation through bodies as your understanding. There’s only one mind. It’s like learning about flowers and their parts and blooms and how rain & sun & photosynthesis works but forgetting the shared energy and consciousness that you yourself are a part of. So learning is not YoU looking through a cage at reality and deciphering it. It is EVERYTHING being ➡️YOU. No separation. You need the right brain or divine feminine to understand that . The path of mercy or safety of grace not severity or left brained which are in extreme opposition.

[@moonchart]

Very enriching discussion and sparked many 'aha''s in this artist's brain!

[@theobservereffectexplained1102]

Thank you for the opportunity to listen to this podcast. I have been curious to learn about God and universe from different perspectives. This is very deep and not easy to understand . For the ordinary senior African women it seems very difficult to understand and implement the path to access the way to harmony and peace on earth. I might be the other 8 billion people looking for peace and balance in life.❤ I seek for truth and found it’s like the moving sky. …

[@tomgreene1843]

Reading The Matter with Things.. My jury is still out ....as to whether Iain conflates slightly the means of thought with its source in the subject in his left / right discussion which is most remarkable and informative. We dig potatoes with our hands and feet ...could do so with feet alone and would improve at it if our hands were damaged...could also do so with hands alone...possibly more efficiently ....is the brain a bit like that ...a material thing we use in its various parts just as happens with the body?

[@DreamingOfABetterDay]

I like this. Not sure why but, I think it is all about individualized persons, and what is best for that individualized person in their body. We don't have to fit into boxes. 😊 Also, not to long ago, I went to a talk about NW indigenous people's lifestyle in the past, before the great flooding or maybe it was after. And they would dig the, potato like root from the natural marshlands with their feet, as this was much easier then diving down, full-body, into the murky waters to collect a main staple for their survival. Then the colonialists decided to channel Waters so they could plant the root vegetables of their homeland. Very selfish and ridged I would say. But anyways, I Digress. 😊 It was so interesting, because I learned that there is no history to be found of native Americans before the flooding, because they/it is buried under 10,000 feet of soil washed down from Washington territory. Incredible.

[@MS-od7je]

Great conversation. Thanks. The brain is a Mandelbrot set as a complex morphology. The transformation of the polar grid circle into a polar grid Mandelbrot set is the design of living organisms. Note that the real number line of the Mandelbrot set is the logistics map. Note that the image of the sand on a beach matches the logistics map. What this means is that a wave of water created the image of the logistics map on the sand. The water wave therefore has within it the ability to generate a logistics mapping of the sand. This means the water wave is a logistics mapping/ Mandelbrot: Julia set, which are in fact necessitated by each other. Furthermore this means that the whole of the logistics: Mandelbrot set: Julia sets transformations can be immediately induced by the wave. Consider: Sound is a wave. The wind is a wave.

[@marlobardo4274]

It would be remarkable to include Dr Vernon Neppe in these discussions...

[@yosefrazin6455]

Also i wish they got around to talking about Shechina - the side of God in history

[@chrisparker2118]

This is a lot like some of the things I heard from someone named Stan Tenen. Sadly, he passed away but his ideas are still discussed on YT. An introduction into his work is found on the Meru Foundation YT channel. Edit: Stan also mentions the contrast between YHWH and Elohim but described it differently. He describes YHWH as a transcendental sun found in the height of meditation contrasted against great expanse of consciousness which he calls Elohim. I think this contrast carries over to the individual where our individual consciousness is contrasted against the expanse of consciousness which is the external world.

[@shai273]

Thanks for the interesting conversation. One of the Hasidic teachers said that in Hebrew the word 'one' (אחד) has the same numerical value as the word 'love' (אהבה). Also for many Kabbalists God is good and more than good. I would argue though that it won't be correct to compare it with Christianity or Buddhism. In Jewish mysticism there is no perfect unity with God, there will always be a gap between Creator and man. The relationship between the Creator and humanity is not only a relationship of love, it is also a relationship of commandment. This is why both aspects appear in Kabbalah - the immanent and the transcendental. When you think about it, the immanent aspect is not necessarily 'love' either. Is the inner voice always soft and caressing? More than once this voice utters with moral and judicial sound. It is a guide that should be listened to, surely its intentions are good and out of love - but this is not always understood rather requires faith. The definition of God as love immediately raises the question - so why is there so much suffering? All the more so for the Jewish people who experienced exile and troubles making it harder to sell this God=love idea to the jewish people. It's just not authentic. In psychoanalysis there is an approach according to which one analyzes and tries to understand the inner impulses and aspirations. On the other hand, there is Viktor Frankl's approach according to which man bows his head before a meaning higher than oneself. Both approaches correspond with Kabbalah's ideas, but Frankel's more so. Because in Judaism God is not humanity or a man made of flesh and blood. God is God before he is love.

[@hellnowewontgo]

I've bin stuck on Genesis 1:1 trying to read Bible for 35 years , you've touched on why in this talk I think. It feels more true in Hebrew. I think I might never get past Genesis applying kabbalah and I don't know if you need to.

[@DreamingOfABetterDay]

This is the 2nd time I am listening to this. I have my own beliefs about time. I think God exists in time as patience, but he is very capable and does exist without time. He understands that everything has its own time-line that they operate in until they reach timelessness. And as God is everything, he exists where he is needed and when he is needed. I could expound but I will not. I think what I really mean is God is needed everywhere and is needed always, but he waits, patiently, for Us to Seek his Love, so he may penitrate our souls and bond with our Will.

[@MS-od7je]

Are “we” doing the writing? The ancient question of free will or determinism. The answer is both. We have free will with limitations. As such action and reactions of choice play against and with all other choices and none choices. In such math it is understood that within the system there appears total randomness, only free will and therefore the perception of self determinism. However if one started the iteration only that person could know the final outcome. Thus only the “father” knows the day and hour… In this manner all “power “ is given, at the beginning, to create, to iterate by forces “ sound” “spoke”, the sound being the first creative action and was literally “part” and parcel to the creator ( nothingness- outside of time and space)… the word( logos) being the sound ( waveform) a singular form “spoken “into existence . A specific maths ( knowledge- mind) did and action “spoke”( waveform) and “space time “ and gravity are creeated and themselves acted on the “vacuum “ “spirit”. 3 kinds of nothing mind, body, spirit as a function of mind( the maths of the minimal surfaces created via space-time-gravity , via action “sound” as particle -waveforms of frequency, energy, vibrations… minimal surfaces ( flat-catenoid-hyperboloid) ( toroid-batwing - MandelbrotJulia set complexes)( spheroid(Quaternion) (particle-wave)( helicoid- solenoid) :: We interpret as electromagnetic: quantum: gravitational fields in a vacuum. The wave is not a rogue or random form but a specific transformation of polar grid circle ( disc) to Mandelbrot: Julia set grid… as all visual structures ( solidified energy frequencies and vibrations) against the non solid form ( the lattice) electromagnetic-gravitational- vacuum… solids are condensates ( particles, atoms , molecules, planets…) black holes are inversions of electromagnetic-gravitational forces stars are the same non inverted forces in plasma which form the condensates by nature of the non inversion of the forces( fields-vacuum) These had to be manifest in this manner in order for life to exist . Had it been any other way… any other fractal… no life exists. We can choose to iterate to be connected with the set or disconnected with the set. We have no choice but to choose but our choices iterate us to the set as connected or disconnected. Disconnected ultimately is dust goes away as nothing. Connected continues to final iteration( beginning and end)

[@nokings92]

46 minutes in as of this comment. Great exchange so far. However, I question if either men have had a transcendent experience in their lives. Because I thoroughly disagree that “God” does not benefit from the Human experience. I say this because I asked. At my lowest point in life, I made my demands, and I asked a question. That question was, “what’s at stake for the other side?” The answer I received was Love.

[@ferreirap.]

I think I read somewhere that the paradox between God's omniscience and human free will could be "resolved" in this way: let's say someone freely does something, and we see him doing it, and then we can remember what he did. Now - so the argument goes - since God is already outside of time, he already knows what we are going to do, but his knowing is a kind of remembering. Only, it is a remembering of the future. That seems reasonable to me. On the other hand, I'm not sure that it is possible to say that God has already decided and planned what we are going to do without making the concept of free will illusory.

[@soullabcollective]

I appreciated this interview. However, I am troubled by the anthropomorphic language used to describe God. Referring to God as a gendered, human-like being seems problematic, as it makes assumptions about the nature and intentions of a profound mystery that transcends our understanding. This collapse into personhood hinders us, as our language and habitual terms cannot fully capture the reality of God. While I recognize the value of time-honored religious language, I wonder if we need new ways of speaking about the divine that avoid limiting God to human categories. I'm open to hearing different perspectives on this difficult issue of how to talk about the sacred in a way that honors its ultimate mystery and otherness. Please let me know if you have any thoughts on this topic.

[@T-aka-T]

Isn't that why there is an un-wordable YWYH?

[@moonchart]

I both agree with you, in the sense that God is well beyond any notions of "gender" or even "sex" as an identity marker and disagree in the sense that people are able to call G-D, YWYH, Jeshua, or any other term that they, as human beings, feel comfortable with.

[@helenperala3459]

Dr Terry Burns on her YT Channel goes into John Dee's work of the HIEROGLYPHIC MONAD and the Kabbalah. Also Dan Winter worth a listen as well on his YT channel. Good info on both. I think we can over analyze things to the extent we are trying to explain God as something even possible TO explain. I think a simple clean diet and fresh air and Nature teaches us most of what we need to know. However, for the Learned among us or those wishing to learn more, the above folks I mention are a nice complement to this discussion.

[@estheracosta6510]

He Created, and is continuously involved in his Creation, let's say as in experience and relationship.. E

[@susanj5591]

Of course creation is reciprocal !

[@wanderingpoet9999]

It is a vast oversimplification to say that Aristotle lead to a non sacred view of the universe, during the whole mediaeval period he was built into a sacred view of the universe, albeit certain tendencies in late mediaeval thinking pointed in different directions, Aristotle is really just a somewhat different take on Plato

[@user-qb6fq5xr6b]

He is giving the basic Jewish centric view of the Kabbalah. If he reads the classic book the Sufis by Idries Shah, he would realize most of what he is explaining from a Jewish perspective was translated from the Arabic speaking, Sufi mystics from Spain.

[@elioxman8496]

the "kaballist" is really a very poorly educated about kaballa, origins, history and subject matter. Sadly I can't refer you to any good presenter in English. The whole composition of his sounds quite nutty....appreciate your patience with this man.

[@davejohn851]

Singing rocks have at the very least, frequency

[@susanj5591]

Entirely discussing kabala wisdom one must resist referring to God as a separate "he" being Instead pure energy and pure possibility and limitless are the only descriptives we can give.

[@SymbolsPatternsGnosis]

80% of the brains neurons are in the cerebellum. 5 of Ian’s 1900 plus pages on the Brain mention the cerebellum. It’s 3600% faster than the 20% of the brain dominating the monopoly Iain has on the conversation. Quite the hegel-Ian bait and switch from a decade ago. I’ve been watching the whole time.

[@Pastaface]

I think about Iain's bird table too much. The more complicated the concepts gets the more my attention drifts to it.

[@estheracosta6510]

Hi, if we mess up, we don't need to be Punished but God forgives. Love ❤️ E

[@Louiseskybunker]

I could talk about the 10 Commandments all day...

[@jackforeman2742]

Whet God requires, may like many similar kinds of questions not really applicable. Rather, would it be more suitable to ask, what is it in God’s nauture to do? He creates, he loves. We create, we love. What does love require is also not quite a suitable question to what it is? Rather we might ask, what is the nature of love and what does it do.

[@SamuelJFord]

A good conversation, though it seems to me that Dr Schipper has a rather rigid (and literalistic?) belief system. Though perhaps I misunderstood.

[@DreamingOfABetterDay]

Im not sure if it is about God tuning down His light as it is Us finding our Right Place in his Light.

[@bayreuth79]

Sounds like a version of idealism rather than panpsychism.

[@jamesayres1225]

It is this him God that is responsible for men feeling they are superior and dominant .

[@flyingfig12]

..as the language doesn't seem to progress in this area.. taking its sweet time to change, it seems that they/some want to keep it as is "all masculine form".

[@victoriaw.17]

In the Middle of every tree in every level of every World there is Jacob Joseph and Jesus can we just get on with it……?

[@ryanmurtha2392]

And the Lord said unto me, A conspiracy is found among the men of Judah, and among the inhabitants of Jerusalem. Jeremiah 11:9 ​ ​Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him. And he hath confirmed his words, which he spake against us, and against our judges that judged us, by bringing upon us a great evil: for under the whole heaven hath not been done as hath been done upon Jerusalem. Daniel 9:11-12 Hear this word which I take up against you, a lamentation, O house of Israel. Amos 5:1 Because of the multitude of the whoredoms of the well-favored harlot, the mistress of witchcrafts, that selleth nations through her whoredoms, and families through her witchcrafts. Behold, I am against thee, saith the Lord of hosts: and I will discover thy skirts upon thy face, and I will show the nations thy nakedness, and the kingdoms thy shame. And I will cast abominable filth upon thee, and will set thee as a gazingstock. Nahum 3:4-6 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I, even I, am against thee, and will execute judgments in the midst of thee in the sight of the nations. And I will do in thee that which I have not done, and whereunto I will not do any more the like, because of all thine abominations. Ezekiel 5:8 As it is written in the law of Moses, all this evil is come upon us: yet made we not our prayer before the Lord our God, that we might turn from our iniquities, and understand thy truth. Therefore hath the Lord watched upon the evil, and brought it upon us: for the Lord our God is righteous in all his works which he doeth: for we obeyed not his voice. Daniel 9:13-14 And Moses said unto Aaron, What did this people unto thee, that thou hast brought so great a sin upon them? Exodus 32:21 Yet many years didst thou forbear them, and testified against them by thy spirit in thy prophets: yet would they not give ear: therefore gavest thou them into the hand of the people of the lands. Nehemiah 9:30 For I know your manifold transgressions and your mighty sins: they afflict the just, they take a bribe, they turn aside the poor in the gate. Amos 5:12 Be ye not as your fathers, unto whom the former prophets have cried, saying, Thus saith the Lord of hosts; Turn ye now from your evil ways, and your evil doings: but they did not hear, nor hearken unto me, saith the Lord. Zechariah 1:4 For the punishment of the iniquity of the daughter of my people is greater than the punishment of the sin of Sodom, that was overthrown as in a moment, and no hands stayed her. Lamentations 4:6 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the Lord, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward. Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint. Isaiah 1:4-5 But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the Lord, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin. Hear this, I pray you, ye heads of the house of Jacob, and princes of the house of Israel, that abhor judgment, and pervert all equity. They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity. Micah 3:8-10 And he said unto me, Son of man, I send thee to the children of Israel, to a rebellious nation that hath rebelled against me: they and their fathers have transgressed against me, unto this very day. For they are impudent children and stiffhearted. I do send thee unto them; and thou shat say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God. And they, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear, (for they are a rebellious house) yet shall know that there hath been a prophet among them. And thou, son of man, be not afraid of them, neither be afraid of their words, though briars and thorns be with thee, and thou dost dwell among scorpions: be not afraid of their words, not be dismayed at their looks, though they be a rebellious house. And thou shalt speak my words unto them, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear: for they are most rebellious. Ezekiel 2:3-7 We have sinned, and committed iniquity, and have done wickedly, and have rebelled, even by departing from thy precepts and from thy judgments: Neither have we hearkened unto thy servants the prophets, which spake in thy name to our kings, our princes, and our fathers, and to all the people of the land. Daniel 9:5 Hear this word that the Lord has spoken against you, O children of Israel, against the whole family which I brought up from the land of Egypt, saying, You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities. Amos 3:1-2 O Israel, return unto the Lord thy God; for thou hast fallen by thine iniquity. Hosea 14:1 The Lord hath been sore displeased with your fathers. Zechariah 1:2 ​ But thou hast utterly rejected us; thou art very wroth against us. Lamentations 5:22 Howbeit thou art just in all that is brought upon us; for thou hast done right, but we have done wickedly. Nehemiah 9:33

[@jennycoffey1443]

A 7 figit recalculation SCAM

[@jamesayres1225]

God is not a him, he must be a her as well. You both need to stop calling God a him.

[@stephenmckinnell7791]

If trivia bothers God, I wouldn’t want to be part of him/her/it. I doubt that it does.

[@jamesboswell9324]

32:45 Actually, here's where science and the Kabbalah differ radically: the first is based wholly upon observations, controlled experimentation and objective analysis of measureable facts about the world and our human interaction with it. The second is composed of ancient conjectures superimposed perhaps as here with modern pseudoscientific reinterpretations and totally made-up woo woo on top.

[@rokasdobrovolskis]

Kabbalah is a demonic, primitive (infantile) mysticism. Let's put more emphasis on a word "primitive" aka manipulative, fictitious and cultish. Far away from the *truth* .

[@T-aka-T]

Perfectly spoken by the left brain, which controls language and confabulates in its small compass. 😊

[@jamesboswell9324]

@@T-aka-T True but in what way is it false?

[@T-aka-T]

@@jamesboswell9324 Ah, but I didn't say it was "false". I said it was left-brained. That is its take on the world. Don't forget that the scientific method isn't into "true/false". It is into INTUITION -> HYPOTHESIS -> TESTING -> then provisional acceptance (the proviso being that the web of knowledge is interdependent and constantly updating as different parts of the web are understood to interrelate). That would be right-brained (which is why the right brain is the master. The left brain is a usefully focused and largely unimaginative servant. But when you put it on the spot, it confabulates (as all those amazing studies of people with a severed corpus callosum (or even just a visually separated L/R field) show. It's like binary IT v neural net AI. Both useful. Neither "false". But the right hemisphere is the master.

[@jamesboswell9324]

@@T-aka-T The scientific method is all about establishing truth of a certain narrow but precisely defined kind. Doesn't mean it's the only truth, I agree. But it is entirely devoted to eliminating falsehoods within its narrow purview by means of empirical approaches. That is what makes it distinct. Doing real science certainly involves using our intuition and imagination on times but that's not the point I'm making in the drawing the distinction. The point is that there's an awful lot of woo woo that then makes false claims to legitimacy by drawing on a misunderstanding about science and by reinterpreting actual scientific findings in extremely sloppy ways that have nothing to do with the underlying truth. As a physicist, that's what I hear in many of the claims being made about the Kabbalah here, and it's why I wrote my original comment.

[@margaritashcheglova8670]

A nice "midrash" 😉

[@jennycoffey1443]

As if they know hiarchy !! Shifting sand , I searched the old sy fy original series GHOST WARS time and life and death have been nothing to the places God has allowed my youness with his other 2 hiarchial selfsame to converse and transverse.

[@missingsig]

so "Dr." no longer indicates a person's ability to see through BS syncretic nonsense ? we are doomed

[@manyquestions207]

Yes cartoon cat, thank you for your wisdom!

[@susanj5591]

What pure arrogance to think that you can say what God wants ..what ?"he" wanted or wants. ❤ This pre-programmed patriarchal conditioned mind is just irritating.

[@leonoraperron4751]

Good grief - it is simply one perspective. As is Iain's. As is yours... All of which contribute to our lives as we journey on -

[@danielwhitney5981]

Excuse me while I throw up.

[@DreamingOfABetterDay]

Why do you want to throw up? Just curious 🤔

[@susanj5591]

I can't believe you're saying something so incongruous as that "he does not need us" that's insanity wrong and spoken out of any true context.