Riot HOTFIXED VEX, can she still CARRY despite being NERFED? | Challenger Vex - League of Legends

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@daigorogreco1715
@daigorogreco1715 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly cringed when i saw the nerf. 50% wr is not bad. She is not a difficult champ to pick up and she has a new mechanic that people aren't used to. She was supposed to counter the meta and be bad into long rage match ups. Everyone plays meta champs into her, mindlessly dashing all over the place because they got so used to abusing their infinite mobility, they get punished, finally, they lose, and inflate her win rate. And despite having had a fucking year of only yas yone irelia and ad assassins, she gets nerfed legit 24hs in..i don't understand why they really fucking hate mages. there is not a single slayer/assassins that isn't super meta or incredibly valiable yet most mages are actually trash tier and have been the entire season bar one week in pre
@monstergarou3848
@monstergarou3848 3 жыл бұрын
50 percent win rate day 1 is ridiculous on any new champ lol.
@Sean-pv1nw
@Sean-pv1nw 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah 50% wr on a brand new champ is very good and when people actually understand how to play her well she would be op
@vroomzoom4206
@vroomzoom4206 3 жыл бұрын
If you dont understand why she was nerfed watch what high elo koreans are doing on her. Shits fucking nutty.
@daigorogreco1715
@daigorogreco1715 3 жыл бұрын
Again..she is not a difficult champ to pick up and very straight forward, and she is designed to counter this particular meta. If the meta were just xerath, viktor, ori, anivia i am sure she would have had a 45ish wr. But the meta is all dashes and people who abuse those dashes without thinking about it...so she wins..doesn't seem that complicated. Also why was she immediately nerfed? I had to deal with samira and aphelios for quite a while. Yone and ak are still broken. Where is the same rush?
@heaven64
@heaven64 3 жыл бұрын
@@daigorogreco1715 No because those are immobile champs that can't dodge any of Vex's abilities. They can't dodge Vex's R and so they need to flash or they die because they are squishy too.
@rudolfk.hoschtialek2788
@rudolfk.hoschtialek2788 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think the head of Riot Corp is a ad bruiser/assanin main, or a Demacia fan cuz dam they hate mages.
@matthew92604
@matthew92604 3 жыл бұрын
I mean.... Mid lane always has a few images who are top tier. Damage is just stupidly high right now though, no reason not to play champs like Irelia, Talon, ect and build tanky while still being able to one shot anyone.
@Ho-dp1ye
@Ho-dp1ye 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the item build paths for mages Always the same all game "sigh"
@lukaskrause6022
@lukaskrause6022 3 жыл бұрын
Not the head of riot, but the majority of the playerbase doesn’t like mages so ofc they get less attention
@TheMolabola
@TheMolabola 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukaskrause6022 there are a lot of mages and combined they are played a lot ofc ppl will abuse the op assassins in an assassin meta
@skelet8337
@skelet8337 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ho-dp1ye there only 2 choices for mages which mythic,and do I go soul stealer this game
@xoafallen6239
@xoafallen6239 3 жыл бұрын
Tbf people jumped the gun and went like vex op, when shes new easy and similar to already existing mages think riot and people need to shut up and give champs A FULL 7 DAYS before even touching them at all, unless they have like a 60+ WR.
@gorrible2831
@gorrible2831 3 жыл бұрын
Try to tell that to the people on league subreddit
@xoafallen6239
@xoafallen6239 3 жыл бұрын
@@s1mon_001 doubt considering her WR in chall rn is low af
@Microtardz
@Microtardz 3 жыл бұрын
@@xoafallen6239 No, he's right. If you go to lolalytics, the only fucking service of these that's worth using thanks to having the sample size openly available unlike other services idiots use like op *cough*. She had a 58% win rate in Diamond+ on the 23rd. And 56% on the 24th. And now she's sitting on a 53% win rate in Korean Challenger. Here's the catch though. That's only out of 115 games played on the champ. The amount of challenger games with any particular champion is absurdly low, even when you look at it globally. If you want to know how "good" a champ is, it's better to pull from a larger pool. I.E. Diamond or Masters. When we go Korean Diamond, we see Vex currently has a win rate of 49.50%. When we go Korean masters, we see Vex currently has a win rate of 50.36%. Mind you, the average win rate of champs in Masters is 53%. So even though you're looking at a 50% win rate, that's still vastly under performing a large quantity of champs in Korean masters. Which gets into the final catch. All of these stats. The pick rates, ban rates, win rates. All of them have context. Like if we're going to talk about Vex's 58% challenger Korean win rate before, are we going to ignore Rumble mid's 61% win rate in Korean Masters? The stats argument is so silly. You just pull the stats and then start arguing a particular point, and you can make those stats fit whatever point you want to make as long as you're willing to cherry pick enough. And it's even worse when you use challenger stats. Because you're inherently picking from the smallest pool of players possible, that are the best possible with any given champ, on a brand new champ that was built to be a counter to the current meta dominant champs. She *SHOULD* have had a 58% win rate in Korean challenger. She would've been something they'd pick if they saw Yasuo, since she's the most obvious answer and she's new so they need to learn her. I'm convinced, if Riot gave it a few more days without a nerf, her win rate would've normalized on its own, but probably a bit over 50%. Say 51%. Which is still way less than Qiyana, Yasuo, Talon, Riven, Katarina, and Rumble.
@NigelTheElder
@NigelTheElder 3 жыл бұрын
Vex isn't a blind pick champion, she's should be reserved as a counterpick or locked in when you know you can safe scale in lane. I think that's the champ design that Riot went for. IE if your lane is safe and the enemy has multiple dash's, lock her in. I think what people tend to forget about league is this game isn't built around having 1 champ in your champ pool, you need a diverse range depending on circumstances. A nice safe blind pick, couple flex/counters, etc.
@jesseplouvier6374
@jesseplouvier6374 3 жыл бұрын
She's not even good against dash champions if she doesn't have her fear. No fear=useless champ.
@wverms
@wverms 3 жыл бұрын
See, the thing is. She isn’t even necessarily good into dash champs? The passive proc effectively acts as her way to keep some consistent damage going when her cooldowns are down, but most dash champs I can think of will still kill her faster. She really needs her fear and abilities to do anything to them, and most have sustain or shields so she can’t even burst them.
@eltontaco7140
@eltontaco7140 3 жыл бұрын
@@jesseplouvier6374 dashes give her fear so she is good against dash champs
@YakoYakii
@YakoYakii 3 жыл бұрын
But she doesnt even counter them they can easily slap her even yasuo mains its just not a hard enough counter
@Sean-pv1nw
@Sean-pv1nw 3 жыл бұрын
If the enemy has dashes it’s unlikely a safe lane because those are usually assassins. I think you just need to learn how to scale effectively and stay safe in lane kind of like a kassadin would because her mid game seems really strong
@JarlLeonidas
@JarlLeonidas 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s make a champion that counters dashes. Wait we made a mistake it counters Yasou and Irelia mains! Nerf her now!
@haidertrash9544
@haidertrash9544 3 жыл бұрын
Yea not like irelia and yasuo players could just ban her cuase thtas basically the only counter THEM aswell
@jarrellidk
@jarrellidk 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, people have banwagoned how "broken and overtuned" she is, this is the result. An already balanced champ getting targeted for nerfs before even having time to shine.
@XianghuaALPHA
@XianghuaALPHA 3 жыл бұрын
@@jarrellidk If only they were launching a video game off her, she'd be better for longer 😭
@emdo2395
@emdo2395 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh shes not such a counter against champs who can dash
@XianghuaALPHA
@XianghuaALPHA 3 жыл бұрын
@@emdo2395 Early on she was hard countering, days later she's settled into the best she's doing is 47% or so, though; no doubt due to more games, nerfs, people learning to tone down dashes, etc
@Tomu10682
@Tomu10682 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno if its true or not but I saw a vid they made about Korean challenger playing vex. They utilized her kit by not going on the offense but only use their abilities when the enemy start the trade, cuz it will be more easy to land abilities. Plus they start E at lvl 1 cuz E Auto + Auto(Passive + electrocute) is great at using to trade/poke and to get ur fear back.
@antoniovictorHOP
@antoniovictorHOP 3 жыл бұрын
So you tell me an anti carry champion is good at not letting the enemy play. Genious
@PekinWoof
@PekinWoof 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a pretty unreliable way to win if you are relying on the enemy to make a mistake by trading into you then
@Tomu10682
@Tomu10682 3 жыл бұрын
@@PekinWoof Yeah true
@notshiba864
@notshiba864 3 жыл бұрын
@@antoniovictorHOP yeah you’re certainly a league player… absolutely no reason for you to be rude to this person in the comments, try to be nicer in the future please
@AnsaMafan
@AnsaMafan 3 жыл бұрын
Bit of a relief to hear that I'm not the only one finding her too weak. I honestly don't understand how people can struggle against her, unless you're a low elo Yasuo/Yone.
@aarmaro9524
@aarmaro9524 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I fought one yesterday as akali and had no issues at all.
@hershyijustshatmyself9253
@hershyijustshatmyself9253 3 жыл бұрын
Even as a person that doesn't play League, I can see how easily punishable she is early. She's practically defenseless when she uses her fear, IDK why people haven't realised that yet
@valennttinn
@valennttinn 3 жыл бұрын
LITERALLY i smack her ass as lux, and as a lux main i tend to plan and think what im doing against any champion in the current meta, but against vex i dont need to, literally easy as fuck to kill
@Vael221
@Vael221 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I mean, my first reaction to seeing she got hotfix nerfed was "I bet it is just a bunch of Dashuo players whining that the champion designed to hard counter them hard counters them"
@goleon7671
@goleon7671 3 жыл бұрын
Yasuo hard counters more than half of the midlane mages but if he gets countered by one champion somehow his mains start whining
@Randyhamburgler
@Randyhamburgler 3 жыл бұрын
I've only been watching for about 5 months but I wanted to thank you for helping me improve on mid lane alot and inspiring me to play qiyana and zoe
@Bittexu
@Bittexu 3 жыл бұрын
I personally see Vex as a champ design that fits old League where most champions would not 2 shot you and have insane mobility, freaky items and abilities, she's really simple. Her damage is also a bit oldschool, she doesn't really delete anyone unless she's fed and her powerspike is on 2nd item which is a bit late. She's rly fun and can do some awesome things i really like this design style and i wish most champions would be like this.
@BasicallyMogar
@BasicallyMogar 3 жыл бұрын
I stg the q is unhittable in lane if you're against anyone who knows the ability and is paying attention. I've started going timewarp and biscuits because never proccing manaflow was making me lose my mind.
@iforgot383
@iforgot383 3 жыл бұрын
She is easy to play vs melees but impossible to lane vs poke mages
@RECTANGLE339
@RECTANGLE339 3 жыл бұрын
@@iforgot383 I feel like if you pick a tank or bruiser that doesn’t dash you kind of just sit there and laugh at her
@soulsemblance3163
@soulsemblance3163 3 жыл бұрын
@@RECTANGLE339 even better if it's an ap bruiser, laughs in mordekaiser
@Sean-pv1nw
@Sean-pv1nw 3 жыл бұрын
The hit box is pretty big and I think you’re meant to use your fear as an aid to lane your abilities
@BasicallyMogar
@BasicallyMogar 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sean-pv1nw The hitbox is tiny once it accelerates. And use the fear? How? Unless they're on top of you the W does nothing, and the E is only slightly easier to hit while not having nearly the range the Q does.
@LeksaLee
@LeksaLee 3 жыл бұрын
the nerf feels unreasonable because she's now weird even into melee champs with dashes and she's supposed to counter that? also would love to see pekin's zoe into vex because i really can't figure out how to lane against her. her e is easier to land and it's kinda frustrating to have the potential to bully her in lane and not being able to utilise it
@BrysonV503
@BrysonV503 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is the first time I’ve been here before the video could be fully watched
@XonixDerps
@XonixDerps 3 жыл бұрын
Like, for once a champ I find pretty decent and new while being simple - and they still complain till rito nerfs like come on yall
@LylyNynx
@LylyNynx 3 жыл бұрын
and then they complain about you not being able to carry too like they didnt just get your champ nerfed to death XD sorry my champion isnt the same as when it first came out jackass -.-
@lukaskrause6022
@lukaskrause6022 3 жыл бұрын
Vex ult is like pyke ult, the cooldown starts from the last time you use it. So if you don’t need to use it, don’t use it and it will time out and be on a lower cooldown
@tomekl3476
@tomekl3476 3 жыл бұрын
It also can be used to clear wave if you have nothing to do with the reset.
@azharhaque9
@azharhaque9 3 жыл бұрын
Pyke ult works like that? I remember seeing tips that it was the opposite, so I see a lot of pykes using their ult on minions if it will time out anyway
@azharhaque9
@azharhaque9 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomekl3476 yeah I would trust pekin but need to see a source of when the cooldown starts, the original comment said the opposite
@lukaskrause6022
@lukaskrause6022 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomekl3476 sure, but is it worth doing that for like 10 seconds extra cooldown when your abilities waveclear just fine? I don’t think so but if you do good for you
@liquify2312
@liquify2312 3 жыл бұрын
I hope she gets buffed, she did not deserve a nerf. I love the character.
@Keurgui1
@Keurgui1 3 жыл бұрын
She definitely deserved it. A day 1 50% wr is a sign of an overtuned champ
@gibranmarquez7905
@gibranmarquez7905 3 жыл бұрын
@@Keurgui1 No its not lol
@liquify2312
@liquify2312 3 жыл бұрын
@@Keurgui1 being played literally every match by millions of people and having a 50% wr isnt overtuned, thats balanced. shes a burst mage thats plays around cds. they shouldn't have touched her day 2.
@ArchxKn1ght
@ArchxKn1ght 3 жыл бұрын
@@Keurgui1 if it were closer to 55%`60% its overtuned 50%~54% is about average for a champ release
@crowtargaryan4232
@crowtargaryan4232 3 жыл бұрын
@@Keurgui1 alotta people don't know how to play against her, her damage wasn't even that high and her burst was a bit lower than other burst mages, people just got her fed and we're like muh unbalanced she's pretty weak overall
@sdowncast8871
@sdowncast8871 3 жыл бұрын
the problem with her is that you have no hope of getting kills before lvl 6, unless your jungler carries you, pr your enemy is in wood league. After lvl 6 if you are not too behind, after some poke dmg you can all in squishier targets. I laned against quinn on top, and she could do nothing if i hit all my skills. But overall vex all in burst is not enough to be an assassin mage, and her basic abilities are too easy to dodge to poke reliably
@sdowncast8871
@sdowncast8871 3 жыл бұрын
And that movement speed...duuude im not sure but she feels the slowest champ in the pool...380 ms with sorc boots
@Liam-do7rv
@Liam-do7rv 3 жыл бұрын
So sad. The main champ to counter irellia got nerfed
@valennttinn
@valennttinn 3 жыл бұрын
try gwen. she sucks ass against anyone else but she's honestly kinda good vs irelia. never lost a single match against her as gwen
@xoafallen6239
@xoafallen6239 3 жыл бұрын
vex is REALLYY bad against irelia, u fear her once then she dashes 4 more times.
@lukaskrause6022
@lukaskrause6022 3 жыл бұрын
@@xoafallen6239 the point is you get a ton of free damage from autos every time she goes for CS. It’s not about the fear. Don’t use fear unless she goes on you.
@Saint-gw9nc
@Saint-gw9nc 3 жыл бұрын
I got fed as vex playing with my friend and when I said damn I’m doing good he just said no she’s broken, like????? Ofc she’s broken if I’m going 16/2/7
@TheKadanz
@TheKadanz 3 жыл бұрын
why would you nerf this chamption but leave irelia untouched? Also I'm still 1/10 of the way through reading aphelios passive.
@Nudgarrobot
@Nudgarrobot 3 жыл бұрын
1:34 that caster minion tho
@YakoYakii
@YakoYakii 3 жыл бұрын
Vex has a problem that if she doesnt get fed enough he just cant do anything since shes so squishy unless she one shots them which she cant if shes not fed enough
@nfzeta128
@nfzeta128 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly as I thought. Sera and Vex have the same problem mid lane. They can both do a lot of dmg but lack agency and both have pretty obvious abilities.
@brunodominick4931
@brunodominick4931 3 жыл бұрын
sera so much better still
@nfzeta128
@nfzeta128 3 жыл бұрын
@@brunodominick4931 Sera ult is better which makes her better in teamfights but for shoving side lanes and 1v1s, Vex is better.
@alegend2337
@alegend2337 3 жыл бұрын
Just your reactions to late game fights and your ability to just not rage at your team or even just out of frustration shows so much good character.
@enochweaver6289
@enochweaver6289 3 жыл бұрын
You got feared bc he used his q, which is a point and click fear. you can see in the death recap that he used it too
@Superbgamer-qv1cf
@Superbgamer-qv1cf 3 жыл бұрын
19:28 Found a real fan in chat
@1Beastieee
@1Beastieee 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't really see why you'd play Vex over something like Annie, she has a point and click R vs Vex R which is a Kai'sa W + R
@nownumber5923
@nownumber5923 3 жыл бұрын
Because she looks way more fun
@kylekite9806
@kylekite9806 3 жыл бұрын
annie r is a skill shot
@jessthewhooty1674
@jessthewhooty1674 3 жыл бұрын
Vex is a champ MADE FOR ME! I adore her with every ounce of my being!
@Azadsqr
@Azadsqr 3 жыл бұрын
feels like another lissandra, shes only popular because of the hype but when it does die down, i feel like she'll become the second liss
@indianguy2276
@indianguy2276 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to me why she got hotfixed in the first place? Especially so early after release, without any sort of domination?
@heek40
@heek40 3 жыл бұрын
Happens almost every single champion release.
@Liam-do7rv
@Liam-do7rv 3 жыл бұрын
@@heek40 akshan got a major buff
@vincentstone7272
@vincentstone7272 3 жыл бұрын
She was dominating. Day 1 high wr is too strong for riot. They have said their targets are 43% wr day 1 and 46%ish day 5. Edit: too strong for riot's metrics
@iforgot383
@iforgot383 3 жыл бұрын
@@Liam-do7rv akshan had an abysmal winrate while she immediately had 50%, either way they will find a good spot for her in a week
@jakec3787
@jakec3787 3 жыл бұрын
@@Liam-do7rv did you even play akshan when he was released? He did less damage full buy than a lucian with 3 items lmfao
@Rol4nnd
@Rol4nnd 3 жыл бұрын
10:14 so destroying a ward grants enemy vision for that long ?
@hiuwo
@hiuwo 3 жыл бұрын
honestly the vision stuff in this game can be very unreasonable
@atomicbetrayal1
@atomicbetrayal1 3 жыл бұрын
I personally like her right now. I don't have an issue with the long fear cooldown since you can easily reset your fear on a minion wave with E+Q, and since I build a lot of ability haste anyways I will have those 2 abilities up again really fast. She is more of a spam/poke champ like that to me, and it works out for me.
@ichigoamv1473
@ichigoamv1473 3 жыл бұрын
I played vex vs a kass and for the first time in my entire life of playing league I wanted to cry I dont even know what happened I felt like he killed me one time and suddenly kass was online and I couldnt do anything
@Lioxqtp
@Lioxqtp 3 жыл бұрын
Well as most mages, all you can do is try to get an advantage vs kass lvl1-5. After that, if you have no lead, you're kinda fked especially as a mage with no mobility.
@ravercorum20
@ravercorum20 3 жыл бұрын
Her win rate is almost identical in plat + to what it is in all other ranks, she's actually fairly balanced but still a little on the weak side. If she's needing a buff it needs to be something extremely small.
@Moomoo0410
@Moomoo0410 3 жыл бұрын
The only problem I have against her is her buffed shield (with passive) as an enchanter in late game it's hard top keep up and also because her ult color scheme and color scheme overall is hard to see especially in river cuz it blended so well...
@LylyNynx
@LylyNynx 3 жыл бұрын
i think you need to change the mode you're playing in then
@ckehung2450
@ckehung2450 3 жыл бұрын
fiddle q fears unconditionally, r and e fear when exiting fog
@skirch6094
@skirch6094 3 жыл бұрын
"Fiddle fear works unconditionally, under these specific conditions"
@hahahahhshahsh817
@hahahahhshahsh817 3 жыл бұрын
Entering*
@xSchockZz
@xSchockZz 3 жыл бұрын
@@skirch6094 I think u misread that. The q works unconditionally. The other ones have a condition
@cedrusnguyen5188
@cedrusnguyen5188 3 жыл бұрын
@@xSchockZz Techically, all his fear is Q. The Q passive fear have condition, the Q active fear is not really unconditional as he can't use it on recently fear-ed target.
@xSchockZz
@xSchockZz 3 жыл бұрын
@@cedrusnguyen5188 u are right, i forgot about that
@12lucke12
@12lucke12 3 жыл бұрын
8:29 If you didn't tank that turret shot you would walked away alive. Talon did 933 damage and you have 949 health. You went in full HP and had 1 corrupting pot, yet, you tanked a turret shot for 171 which ultimately enden with you dying.
@bobbybobsen123
@bobbybobsen123 3 жыл бұрын
I go minion demat on her, then you can still oneshot the ranged creeps with a Q after lv 9.
@garretthafeli7499
@garretthafeli7499 3 жыл бұрын
Did Pekin play Skarner mid? No. Lose Streak: 27
@jickhertz4124
@jickhertz4124 3 жыл бұрын
13:04 it's not the ult but the E that triggered the Q passive fear.
@SuperZero002
@SuperZero002 3 жыл бұрын
but it's not supposed to proc unless fiddle is in stealth, which he wasn't because he ulted obviously. as a fiddle main, that e was not supposed to proc
@jickhertz4124
@jickhertz4124 3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperZero002 Haha! True!
@jumper3624
@jumper3624 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who really likes playing both Xerath and Brand mid, who should I branch out to that plays similar but is stronger in the meta?
@xo1life533
@xo1life533 3 жыл бұрын
Well it seems you like a safer lane and faraway casting with skillshots. That would be ziggs or someone like that
@Buraunia
@Buraunia 3 жыл бұрын
Lead with E fear, follow with Q (not aa so you can get that extra damage), that's pretty much the only way to hit the Q. Yes, I know I'm Cpt. Obvious here.
@Pk_Rain
@Pk_Rain 3 жыл бұрын
She’s gonna be played as support, calling it now
@nathanielvo3322
@nathanielvo3322 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it's worth it to E the raptors camp from lane, then Q them to get 50-60% of your passive cd back? You get a lot of your passive cd back; but E is a relatively high cd, so it sucks not having it up.
@lukaskrause6022
@lukaskrause6022 3 жыл бұрын
Try Liandries and CDR boots, spell spamming feels really good even if each ability individually is kinda hard to hit you can use them a ton
@IzarHarrison-Riddle
@IzarHarrison-Riddle 3 жыл бұрын
you have such a soothing voice. Thanks for playing!
@graytantan4839
@graytantan4839 3 жыл бұрын
I've honestly just been playing AD Vex and Yuumi in all lanes with PTA runes. because it's high damage in early game and long ranged. like being vayne but not.
@fabio8362
@fabio8362 3 жыл бұрын
Quality vids brotha
@hiuwo
@hiuwo 3 жыл бұрын
13:25 you got feared because of fiddle Q
@kaijicabrera7609
@kaijicabrera7609 3 жыл бұрын
I find it funny that pekin doesn’t know that fiddlesticks has a point and click fear even if his passive fear doesn’t go off in his ult
@Kakurendo
@Kakurendo 3 жыл бұрын
I played against her for the first time as anivia. Literally no movement and I could dodge every ability. This champ is underpowered
@squirrelshine8033
@squirrelshine8033 3 жыл бұрын
Anivia DESTROYS Vex. There is nothing vex can do, literally. Coming from a 1.3 million point Anivia main. Brutal lane for Vex.
@AIYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@AIYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 3 жыл бұрын
@@squirrelshine8033 The question though, is why does everybody want Vex to = other mages? Put another way, if Vex is just as good as any other mage and gets to do all her ulti-roaming, self-peeling, dash countering, why even play any other mage? Imagine a world where mage players got what they wanted, Vex would now be pick or ban, AND she'd be an assassin herself. Just because a champion doesn't have an answer to every champion, doesn't make them weak...it just means she isn't a Lux/Morg clone.
@greenindigo3496
@greenindigo3496 3 жыл бұрын
Vex R into team fight is so satisfying
@Makibishi93
@Makibishi93 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks as always Pekin, always entertaining watching your vids. I was actually looking forward to OTPing her, I actually feel as though she was pretty balanced. I took her to Masters ELO and she's garbage, that Q dmg nerf was the killer. She's only playable on the smurf. She was well-rounded from my personal perspective. Now she's lackluster. Unless you play DH/Liandry's for scaling. Her passive and Q were her bread and butter. Now she's useless and I might as well play Anivia at this point. Hah... Yeah, I'm not that fucking retarded. Thanks again Riot. Time to go back to Akali and int like I mean it.
@hige1234
@hige1234 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is one of the cutest streamers.
@maxxvii2037
@maxxvii2037 3 жыл бұрын
As long as her winrate isn't as low as Akshan's was we won't see any big buffs.
@RazCroz22
@RazCroz22 3 жыл бұрын
Camille is not a ridiculous champion. Spellblade being special cased to be converted to true damage is ridiculous.
@northlord804
@northlord804 3 жыл бұрын
wow I remember when you barely had any subs! how the tables have turned!!!
@widepeepohappy820
@widepeepohappy820 3 жыл бұрын
Vex is a lot stronger vs talon then the others you mentioned his lvl 2 spike vs ori for example ori would loose all in. I think vex is strong but as any champ has loosing and winning lanes. Maybe the hotfix nerf was a bit much but her kit is really strong
@voidroad
@voidroad 3 жыл бұрын
Even after the nerf she feels broken to me, maybe i'll play some more games on her but damage is silly fear still broken
@KelyxTheMage
@KelyxTheMage 3 жыл бұрын
I've been playing Vex support and have been seeing quite a bit of success with her. She synergizes well within ADCs like Jhin, Samira, and Aphelios, and is a nice counter for hard engage supports.
@KelyxTheMage
@KelyxTheMage 3 жыл бұрын
The combo i always try to go for is Empowered E to guarantee a Q hit. Her E is the easier of the two ranged abilities to hit so leading with that makes her Q much easier to land.
@joshuasoccer500
@joshuasoccer500 3 жыл бұрын
I just don’t understand why we gotta have a reset on every new champeon
@twystd7952
@twystd7952 3 жыл бұрын
that fiddle fear at 13:00 was cringe
@chrismallis205
@chrismallis205 3 жыл бұрын
honestly the hotfix wasnt that big of a deal its justt 20 dmg late game from her passive and 20 dmg lvl 5 from her q
@streamer_4476
@streamer_4476 3 жыл бұрын
Nooo! I wanted to learn her. Now I can't play her anymore!
@Foatizenknechtl
@Foatizenknechtl 3 жыл бұрын
like why do they nerf her early game in form of basestats when the champ is bursting me for nearly 3k dmg in a second when the game gets to 3 items.
@m_j_ox
@m_j_ox 3 жыл бұрын
Cant let the mage be too strong! Even though she was made to counter assassins lol.
@DrakZhull
@DrakZhull 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being reliant on your teammates to be a reason not to play a character in a team-based multiplayer game. Riot really screwed up somewhere along the way.
@PekinWoof
@PekinWoof 3 жыл бұрын
My opinion on her is in the super high elo's btw like GM and Challenger. Every champ can be played in D1 and carry. It's just that her simplicity in the highest elos (By this I mean her kit cannot punish players who do not go into her) will make her basically not a meta pick unless her damage is buffed in my opinion, we shall see though
@DrakZhull
@DrakZhull 3 жыл бұрын
@@PekinWoof I understand that. I also won't pretend that I know anything about GM and challenger environment. However, this: "Every champ can be played in D1 and carry" reality is the problem I wanted to point out. Not just with Vex. If you're building a team vs. team game, making every character to be the carry, the champion (I simply had to), is a bad call.
@MasterKaiser3000
@MasterKaiser3000 3 жыл бұрын
Why did you go Comet over Electrocute? I feel like you can't ever hit the Comet
@minimoYT
@minimoYT 3 жыл бұрын
Comet has a lower cooldown, and opens up sorcery tree, Manaflow band + Transcendence + Scorch is better than what domination tree can offer. If you activate comet with a fear or an E, it's guaranteed to hit
@MasterKaiser3000
@MasterKaiser3000 3 жыл бұрын
@@minimoYT thx
@Josh-99
@Josh-99 3 жыл бұрын
She's terrible. She's weak and predicable in lane. She has VERY little outplay potential with no early dashes, CC you can time if you are paying attention, poor self-defense (just a small shield), and zero utility. She's not a control mage, she's not a burst mage, she's not an assassin, she's not a DPS mage; she has aspects of ALL of those kits without having an actual theme. She can kinda-burst, but she has to dash in like an assassin to do so. She can kinda-CC, but she has to build it up with abilities first. She's just weird and not very effective. She's one of those champs that sometimes does well despite itself, but usually is just awful.
@bath_salt
@bath_salt 3 жыл бұрын
rito pls fix something else
@ionetricknunu
@ionetricknunu 3 жыл бұрын
Nuuu Pekin.. I want to sleep!
@xjmasterx0907
@xjmasterx0907 3 жыл бұрын
????????????? WHY DID THEY NERF HER, SHE ALREADY FELT MID/ WEAK WTF
@talkdirty7777
@talkdirty7777 3 жыл бұрын
i started thinking of stop playing lol after riot made the new items since they are buffing all ad champs vs ap ... so i give the game a chance and started playing vi my S5 champ ... and that did not work for me at all .... then j4 ... but then i saw the emo king and his ult and BUGGGGGGGGGSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS and told my self ... if the new champ get a reset on his ult ... i am quiting .... the funy part is i stoped playing the game before this emo queen coming up... and now i understand that this game is shit and i am thanking god and my luck for not buying any skins after the candy eve skin ... and i did not remove the game from my pc ... to keep it a reminder for me to never buy somethings like skins from games that won't support a solo player experiance . + dealing with my old boss is easyer than dealing with the "humans" in this game.
@cfitz9976
@cfitz9976 3 жыл бұрын
yea i dont really understand the nerf, she didnt feel op er anything. Riot-Activision at it again
@redhyina5260
@redhyina5260 3 жыл бұрын
good job keep up the good work :)
@XanKreigor
@XanKreigor 3 жыл бұрын
Stop building her with Echo and start using Liandry.
@moonvade9245
@moonvade9245 3 жыл бұрын
Day 27 of asking pekin for lethality caitlin mid :)
@saddestblue5651
@saddestblue5651 3 жыл бұрын
Day 25: Seraphine mid please
@bebaiz
@bebaiz 3 жыл бұрын
I hear a squeaking sound when I watch your videos. Do you have a dog or birb perhaps, or is it just your chair moaning over your weight? :P
@SeraphX2
@SeraphX2 3 жыл бұрын
so the tower lives and all you needed was a couple shots. you wouldn't get ganked. why wouldn't you secure the tower?
@farahabdulahi474
@farahabdulahi474 3 жыл бұрын
kinda dumb you still had vision for fiddles @10:20 for like 3secs
@gnarrlly
@gnarrlly 3 жыл бұрын
balls
@gmoburrito6090
@gmoburrito6090 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting for a cait sp vid day 30
@yeahhaey3059
@yeahhaey3059 3 жыл бұрын
13:04 usual league bs
@jacksonh2228
@jacksonh2228 3 жыл бұрын
Day 263 of asking for Vi mid :D
@ThoughtsFromTheVoid
@ThoughtsFromTheVoid 3 жыл бұрын
She has area fear and max range wambo combos.
@ThoughtsFromTheVoid
@ThoughtsFromTheVoid 3 жыл бұрын
Pros will use her
@randschreiber1692
@randschreiber1692 3 жыл бұрын
Noway a top 50 euw challenger, still thinks she's broken and blind picks her
@PekinWoof
@PekinWoof 3 жыл бұрын
I went through his stream VODs cuz I know who ur talking about and found 1 game, guess he plays it off stream. Maybe there is a playstyle that is strong. But idk I watched his game and she definitely once again looked like just a weaker version of any other control mage, Ori Viktor Syndra etc.
@randschreiber1692
@randschreiber1692 3 жыл бұрын
@@PekinWoof I haven't watched to much of him lately because an exam is coming up. But he tries to play her every game, but she's usually always banned. What I have seen is that he definitely doesn't go for liandrys but trys to go for one shot build. And mosty has a zhonyas second or third item. He's then capable of one shotting half their team after 25 minutes, even when he was behind in lane
@randschreiber1692
@randschreiber1692 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe in his helo his team know better how to follow up/ prepare to follow up when he fears 3 players
@baamxxv63
@baamxxv63 3 жыл бұрын
@@randschreiber1692 who are you talking about? I wanna watch the vods
@randschreiber1692
@randschreiber1692 3 жыл бұрын
@@baamxxv63 noway4u a big german streamer
@thebananacracker248
@thebananacracker248 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah she seems meh
@Koplerio
@Koplerio 3 жыл бұрын
Vex is strong. Everything is based on her E Gloom procs.
@aisuro
@aisuro 3 жыл бұрын
Earliest I’ve ever been
@remuiq4144
@remuiq4144 3 жыл бұрын
day 3 of asking for janna mid
@scrappy_doo
@scrappy_doo 3 жыл бұрын
bruh take electrocute
@patrickmullin9128
@patrickmullin9128 3 жыл бұрын
Kachow
@yogi_moto
@yogi_moto 3 жыл бұрын
Vex best support...
@qweewq-h7p
@qweewq-h7p 3 жыл бұрын
That makes sense. Depressive ppl aren't strong, so this champ shouldn't be either :^]
@brianjohnson3472
@brianjohnson3472 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! :)
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