ATEM Switcher: Upstream & Downstream Keys

[@BoCalilung]

HANDS DOWN THE BEST EXPLANATION OF THE 2 KEYS!!

[@electronikitten]

...best and shortest...

[@stevebeydler529]

This video is so informative. Found exactly what I needed without scrubbing through a 45 minute vid. BUT... how to create a pre-multiplied graphic by exporting directly to the ATEM from within Photoshop was worth the price of admission!! Thank you.

[@acieblazeacieblaze4796]

Exactly

[@fotoeikenburg]

Hey there! This is one of the best tutorials I’ve ever seen. Why? Well, your talking speed is nice, not at a speed which washes your brain. Second: No unnecessary background music. And last but not least : no unnecessary sidesteps in what you want your audience to learn from your training video. So: chapeau! Keep up the spirit of training your viewers.

[@JosephLiwanag]

8:05 Finally! I now understand the fundamental/basic difference on these 2 thanks lot.

[@heathermichaelson3526]

That is EXACTLY what I was about to say!

[@richieboylush]

Really helpful - we were using the luma key for church Sunday and kept going off between transitions and couldn’t understand. You’ve just saved me a lot of work - thank you 😊

[@lloydbudhram2511]

I must say this is the best Explanation I have heard for the longest time-clear and precise.A+A+A+

[@Mikee535]

Very good explaining the difference in up and downstream keys. Thank You! Clear screen and no BGM!!

[@angelamclanebeyrle1058]

Hey there! Thank you for the very informative tutorial. I'm new to the ATEM switcher world, within the last 7 months. The manual does not give a lot of information, or details, for newbies to fully understand how to use the software and Advanced panel. I have searched several KZbin video tutorials. I really like this type of tutorial because of the following: The instructor spoke clearly and did not throw in a bunch of engineering terminology (I'm a visual artist, not an engineer), you showed a close up of the ATEM software and the upstream/downstream keys together, so I could see everything you were doing clearly. I really appreciated that, because other videos would show something similar, but the software would be much further away to see what they were doing. I subscribed and will be watching more of your videos. Thanks again!

[@ClevelandTerry]

Excellent tutorial. My brain couldn't translate the ATEM Mini Pro tech language. This helped a LOT. Thank you.

[@jumbomovie]

Excellent !! I learned something on this video I should have learned 10 years ago !! Bravo !!!!!!!

[@delcanvideoproductions4895]

Nice simple explanation of the purpose and operation of the up stream and down stream Keys.

[@jeffreybales695]

This is great information to have when first starting out with lower thirds. The presenter is very easy to listen to and made understanding upstream and downstream easy. Thanks and keep up the awesome training videos.

[@KatAdair]

OMG, thank you so much for making sense of this. Something about a 1,695 manual-as a Mac user-that makes my head explode. This is exactly what I needed!

[@ValNeekman]

You have the ability of explaining complex things, simply!. 2DaPoint, I'd say! Thank you.

[@mikeweber4578]

THANKS for that perfect explanation!! I now really understand the difference and when to use which one 👍🏼

[@gravitymediapro]

This was a super helpful tutorial. Even though I’ve been a TD for a long time, the ATEM is different and your approach is spot on. Thanks for taking the time to make such good, informative content. I very much appreciate it!

[@MatthewDoebler]

This was a good video. I did not know how the DSK worked. I thought I did, but I had completely overlooked those 3 buttons on the right side of the virtual switcher on the ATEM Software Control. This was exactly what I needed. Thanks!

[@stevecookphotography]

One of the clearest explanations of this topic! Thanks!

[@jhonnyparks7085]

Thank you so much for this incredibly detailed info, I have looked around at other videos trying to get this knowledge and couldn't find it, but here it is! I'm pretty sure everyone feels the same, great job!

[@monkeymirror8056]

Thanks ! That's great explaination for something i didn't understand until now

[@aldenleonardo]

Such a great explanation of these key elements! Thank you so much for sharing!

[@winfriedscherpenzeel954]

Thanks for the Tutorial, you gave me some new ideas, however the Lego Modulars in the background made my day :)

[@rippleguys]

and the city blocks keep growing...

[@JoStein-v1g]

Best way explained on YT.. ty

[@neokimthye]

This explanation was very detailed and clear. Thank you.

[@sarahnaomi23]

Thank you for this video! You're an excellent teacher

[@danaforeman4349]

Fantastic Explanation. Well done.

[@markdonnery]

You can have the upstream key as a constant. You can leave the upstream key on and just change the background by checking the key button.

[@RandallJennings]

I was just about to ask this very question. Thanks!

[@MichaelMisel]

Yes! So important to know, especially if your switcher does not have enough down stream keys. You can still get the job done, just use an upstream key and make sure not to transition it while live.

[@FrankMulderVideo]

I've been playing a lot with upstream keys, but never understood how it actually worked... Just leaned myself the order on clicking.... Years later someone explained it to me... 🙂

[@aladenurudeenolatunji7124]

Good 👍👍👍 your explanation is very simple and straight,l like this

[@frankbierschneider8785]

Thanks for this, now got a better understanding of the differences! :)

[@vredeskerkoosterhout]

A very good and clear explaination. Well done

[@schlosstheatermoers9788]

thanks, wholesome and very clear explanation.

[@jacvanderspuy5618]

Fantastic explanation. Is there any way to activate to up and downstream keys from the mini or do you have to use the software? Cheers

[@riedlburkhard]

Thx for the easy explanation!!! Just great!!!

[@taksaacademy4235]

My question finally got answered. Thank you so much!

[@elbrujocaipo]

This helped me understand the difference. Great video Thank You

[@FrancoAversa]

how do you connect the atem to the computer to remote it with the software, via network or via usb? I have problems if I control it via Usb C and I also take the video stream as a webcam, the Atem jumps as if it had no synchronisms. If, on the other hand, I only use Atem without the software, or if I control it via the networ, I have no problems. Thanks.

[@3vn1mediaproductions76]

Very helpful video. But can you demonstrate what will happen if the "Pre Multiplied Key" is not checked? I'm a visual person and it would explain why we should and should not check it.

[@videoaudio2]

Hello do you have any tutorials for the ATEm 1 M/E Production Studio 4K

[@moOnB0w]

You said there is only one media player, but you can load multiple files onto that media player, correct? Like if I had 4 presenters who all had their own animated gif to display upon walkon, how would I go about cycling through those gifs? Is there a shortcut on the controller or would I have to manually load each file from the software?

[@LifeofhOfficial]

Great video. Just wondering how did you record your desktop screen which kinda follows where you mouse go?

[@curtisbrooksmediapro]

Great video and explanation! Thanks for sharing.

[@leopakkhoo5409]

Is it possible to use only one laptop to have green screen view, lower third and logo at the same time? Thanx.🌸🙏🌸

[@MrLeomike]

Great video Travis I would like to know if I can upstream & downstream at the same time. I'd like to display my logo (constant) and at the same display lower thirds btw different cam views. I'm using a black magic atem mini pro ( 1:upstream, 1:downstream, 1: media player) keys. Would you do a demo how to do up & down keys at the same time.

[@mellangestudio]

Great overview! Thank you! Is there a way to "preview" the DSK like you can with the upstream key?

[@ALPLM.]

The Atem option was not available in my export menu on Photoshop, reinstalling ATEM software now to see if that fixes it.

[@ALPLM.]

Yep, that did it. Awesome!!

[@boyapatiramakrishna2068]

Very Good explanation. Thank you Brother.

[@gab9905]

Great video, topic very well explained. I work for a small charity and we are thinking of investing in a started webinar suite. We are seeing a lot of videos about ATEM Mini Pro ISO. We would to do live webinars, events and training. We have adapted MS Teams system but see limitations for live events. We don't have and skills in this area but are willing to learn. Could you give any advice on what equipment we might strat with.

[@chriseschweiler9096]

Nice video, Travis! That bit about exporting premultiplied graphics directly from Photoshop is a fabulous time saver. Question: Do you know of a process for exporting a slew of .TGAs with transparency? I'm actually not having any success using PS in all the obvious ways, and was hoping the ATEM plug-in might be the basis for the ultimate solution to my problem. TIA!

[@winstoncely5516]

We produce live streams of high school sports. We used to have a Tricaster Mini (until it died) and it was easy to update a score while we recording due to the built-in software. It looks like the ATEM software here does not allow that. I've found a way to update a graphic using Preview (of all apps) but it still requires a LOT more steps than the Tricaster software did. What is the best practices workflow to do this with the ATEM software? There's got to be a simpler way to do this. Bare in mind, this is for high school students to operate, not professionals.

[@rippleguys]

We use the ATEM in conjunction with OBS on a Mac. USB-C to our Mac from ATEM, then use OBS to create any graphic we want on the fly then trigger the graphic with a keystroke in OBS. ATEM alone is not designed for the level of sophistication you described.

[@mastercheif1989]

Is there a way that you can select which image is picked from the media pool? Say if you wanted lower thirds for multiple presenters?

[@apnaghar713]

Is good to under stand. Down stream key means we use input

[@lebouremien]

Very good tutorial!

[@stevef]

Hey there, good video. Sorry if I missed this - does the ATEM software automatically install a Photoshop plugin? Do you have to add it manually so that it shows up in the export?

[@thatsaloadofcrap]

Curious about the background in your video... Are you green screened? Or is it real? If GS, it's a really good one.

[@dangable2889]

we have a mini and a pro. Thanks. I''ll be a student.

[@JCSafrany]

is it somehow possible to get a second Upstream key? Or at least the same options (linear key and flying key) on the downstream key? I'm experimenting for hours now... i want: 1) Background (simple Image) 2) video input (powerpoint but dwonsized and repositioned) 3) video input (person infront of a greenscreen)

[@johnmunoz8845]

I don't see the export setting in the latest version of Photoshop. I'm assuming Adobe doesn't support that export feature anymore.

[@twingotango]

This was incredibly helpful...thank you!

[@malifeannickkoffibi9541]

bravo! great from Cote d'ivoire Africa

[@abramsfamily8608]

Thanks Travis. Great info. BTW, I see you are a serious Lego geek like myself. Where did you get your light kits or did you make them yourself?

[@vangoethempascal7633]

This is really good. Just the perfect level for explanations :-) Thanks. I suscribe

[@sangdonshin]

Thanks for the great explanation!!

[@DaveColes]

Excellent tutorial!

[@tanzinasultana8734]

this one is easy and simple

[@TaystTheNotes]

What are the dimensions of the graphics that the atem switcher is expecting? Have yet to see this published anywhere. I take it these would be full frame graphics. You can't take a small sized graphic and position it around the screen as you do in final cut Pro, correct? How do I ensure the correct placement of a logo in that downstream key?

[@DivineLightProductions]

Thanks for sharing!

[@therealaesop]

this was super helpful! Thank you! Great vid!

[@umucophotography2380]

this is so helpful thank you

[@joshdolding5587]

Great explanation thank you!

[@jrod291]

great video so, helpful!

[@eternalfocus1848]

Thanks mate that helped a lot

[@2personality]

Hello, I want ask..Why black color at blackmagic atem is missing and becomes transparent

[@SalvaROCK]

Great!!! A BIG THANK YOU!! Now I finally understand how to set and use both things, as the written instructions are not very helpful, frankly speaking.

[@Elizasheraz7880]

Hi I want to know how to make a macro in atem one me black magic switcher.

[@johnsirb4941]

I just got my ATEM pro today ( only 2 months back order) Can the downstream be done with video as well or only stills?

[@ChuckNorris-bf5cj]

Yes, the best!

[@TheAwesomeGuy101]

Next Video... What is a Mix Effect? or an ME? 1 ME or 2 ME? =) THANKS!

[@Sam-is8uo]

Great work mate

[@JozefkerkAssen]

This file doesnt give transparency on my DSK with the PS TOOL; what goes wrong?

[@The-Logician]

Nicely done!

[@Elizasheraz7880]

Kindly make a video and upload

[@trevorhackathorn6059]

How can I configure a key, either up or down, to use an external input as the video source? We have side third graphics during our presentations where the graphic middle and right is transparent but the graphic on the left is not keying correctly. Should I use up or down?

[@rippleguys]

Any input can be used as a source for a key. You should key using upstream as downstream is only a luma key.

[@trevorhackathorn6059]

@@rippleguys so then, since the graphic ends up not keying correctly, is the issue with the graphic itself?

[@Elizasheraz7880]

How to make L-band graphics in different size in black magic switcher

[@RapPayne]

You asked for feedback. I waited 8:19 before I got to what I wanted; the difference between upstream and downstream key. And I still don't understand. Maybe offer basic tutorials for noobs like me? Maybe one without jargon like "bug", "lower third". What is a Luma? What's a Chroma? What's a "key"? HTH.

[@Polar-Star]

Thanks!

[@Elizasheraz7880]

Kindly tel me how play 2 macro same time

[@Hoick]

Thanks very helpful!!!!

[@EzzenzDK]

Thanks guys - great info :-)

[@abstractonline9914]

very informative

[@andrewlee3625]

When I tried to export a png file through "Export" inside Photoshop, I cannot find Atem Switcher Media Pool option. How can I set this as an option to export to? Many thanks!

[@rippleguys]

Andrew Lee are you running the latest version of Photoshop? Can’t be using an old version

[@leopakkhoo5409]

Thanx buddy,💚🌸🙏🌸💚

[@andreasfischer3304]

Thanks :-)

[@kipling1957]

I watched the whole thing and never heard a definition of upstream vs. downstream key. Still confused.

[@rippleguys]

Downstream key is what happens AFTER (or downstream) of your previously applied key or transition. - kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmi1g6KhrrFgnLs.

[@kipling1957]

@@rippleguys Thanks.

[@phcphcphc]

I have watched your vid 20 times and still dont understand how to use downstream key

[@guymross]

This obtuse 1976 terminology is just ludicrous in 2023.

[@remektekmedia6641]

As I refuse to pay the Adobe subscription tax, I don't use PS. Instead I use Pixelmator, which can save PNG with transparency. It would be grate if tutorials didn't just focus on PS users. Just sayin'...

[@rippleguys]

I understand, but that's what we use, and we have not tested the workflow in Pixelmator

[@andiemoepse1089]

I completely agree! A *_LOT_* of people have understandably turned their back on Adobe! I, too, would never use Photoshop, but rather am using Affinity Photo. So yeah, it would've been nice to hear what options those THOUSANDS or users have i.e. what they need to do to get things working correctly. Rather shortsighted IMHO!

[@timbeaton5045]

@@andiemoepse1089 Sorry to say, that a quick bit of checking in the BM ATEM manual, it just says... "Installing the ATEM software on your computer also installs a Photoshop plug-in that lets you upload Photoshop graphics direct to the ATEM Mini’s media pool." So I don't think this will work with Affinity, or Pixelmator. There are a few PS plugins that work with A Photo, but I don't think this is one of them. Maybe contact BlackMagic to see if they can implement this? This is nothing really to do with Ripple! Note that Blackmagic say in their manual, a few lines later... "This means you can accept graphics from designers in the application that 100% of the world’s designers use, Adobe Photoshop!" Yes. That 100% is no longer as true as it was. Especially as the ATEM mini is going to appeal to the kind of users, who are probably on a limited budget, and are now more likely than ever to be leaving Photoshop behind.

[@remcodevries5360]

Thanks, really helpful and good to know. The photoshop plugin was not showing up in my case. Neither when the item was connected through USB C port to my MacBook or via LAN. So I searched for that problem and I found out that it is probably an Adobe or Atem fault, which can be manually solved quite easy, follow this tutorial (you have to paste the plugin from Atem in the right plugin folder) kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4ncaKmHhpmVhs0

[@andiemoepse1089]

Very unfortunate that this isn't for THE PRO since I'm much more interested in understanding how the streaming aspect of the ATEM works and what my options are for multi-streams for example, and how to set those up. Too bad. No sale here I guess…

[@rippleguys]

We hear ya. They are all on backorder, in some cases up to a month now. If you hear of a reseller that has them in stock let us know.

[@jaycole2389]

Thank You 😊 very helpful