Rise of Flight: Airco DH.2

Rise of Flight: Airco DH.2
Today we take a quick look at one of the more unique early great war fighter designs. I hope you enjoy!
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[@thenoobinator3508]

Fun fact. The reason the engine of the DH2 was so effective is because it is a french engine mounted backwards

[@tylerthegrimm]

The Noobinator lol

[@gibbygaming792]

@@sugarnads who hurt you

[@factornegative275]

@@sugarnads -What's the shortest joke about French Army? -I surrender! XDDDD

[@outwiththem]

@@factornegative275 Napoleon is the general with most won battles in modern history. 56 battles won. Wellington = 44...

[@kenrobba5831]

@@outwiththem As it is, it is not the quantity but the last note ended on - win or lost !

[@Bigprior]

Gawd, seeing that plane brought back memories of flying it in Red Baron back in the day.

[@pyrolr9588]

I went to a airshow a few weeks ago, they had one of these on display, truely a beautiful aircraft!

[@SirKittalot]

The aircraft-mounted version of the Lewis Gun usually was equipped with a larger 97-round pan magazine, as opposed to the infantry version with the barrel shroud and the 47-round magazine.

[@MagzGTV]

On some aircraft but not all, The problem with the 97 round pan was it was larger and harder to handle. This means that it takes up much more space in a small cockpit and it was much harder for a pilot to change while also flying the aircraft. This is why the standard 47 round pan was used in the DH.2.

[@SirKittalot]

But even the in-game model is a 97-round magazine. Had it been a 47-round type it would have been much flatter. I haven't counted how many shots can be fired by the DH.2 from a single magazine, but it seems to be a lot more than 47. The magazine also has a fabric handle on-top for easy manipulation while wearing flying gloves, a feature that was not present on the 47-round model. This feature was initially added by a British pilot, Lanoe Hawker, who first created the 97-round magazine by combining two standard 47-round magazines. Later this was standardised by the manufacturers when the 97-round magazine became official. This means that the 97-round magazine would actually have been easier to handle than the 47-round one, a theory that is supported by the fact that the 97-round magazine was invented by a British pilot who had to use the Lewis Gun. Had pilots preferred the smaller magazine, it is likely that the Brits would not have made the larger one the standard aircraft armament. Finally, the magazine-retention hub had to be extended on the Lewis Mk II for it to take the larger magazine, which as far as I have found out made the 47-round magazine incompatible.

[@sugarnads]

MagzTV based on the on screen view thats a 97 round drum. The cooling system was also deleted on the air version.

[@User9r682]

I'd be a little concerned about artillery shells flying over no man's land like that :p

[@gordonmcinnes8328]

Small note on the Lewis, later in the war it had a 97 round capacity thus fewer changes.

[@z3r0_35]

There was another problem with Gnome engines, although this mostly applied to later models which DID have a throttle of sorts: they had a frighteningly high tendency to catch fire when opening up the throttle, which was because, rather than restricting the fuel flow like a normal throttle, the throttle on later Gnome rotary engines worked by disengaging and reengaging individual pistons, which allowed fuel to build up in them at lower engine settings, so when they were reengaged...

[@jan4895]

more of these please, loving the background info on the plane. please do a variety of planes from ww1

[@willconnor5858]

I am actually considering buying a 3/4-scale replica of the DH.2 to fly from my local air museum. About 8 grand.

[@VosperCDN]

That would be awesome. There's quite a few kit builds for WWI aircraft, which I always thought would make a perfect (inexpensive?) private aircraft.

[@willconnor5858]

One of our guys is building a Fokker Dr.1 triplane kit from the same company that puts out the DH.2

[@DeadBaron]

Don't forget the cost of fuel, special maintenance, insurance, cost of flight training (some 3/4 do not qualify as ultralights), storage, and the dangers of flying a slow aircraft like that in busy airspace depending on where you are.

[@DafuqROB]

I think the french pilot with the deflector plate was actually the reason that the germans developed the interrupter gear.

[@NefariousKoel]

Correct. The Germans studied a downed plane that had it, realizing the guy had been rather successful & then discovering that was why. So they decided to go to the next level.

[@DafuqROB]

NefariousKoel then french and british aircraft were fitted with it once they had examined downed german aircraft. Funny how war works isn't it.

[@davidhobson7652]

Roland Garros was the French fighter pilot with the metal wedges on his plane....... while Anthony Fokker improved on it with the true interruptor equipment ......

[@alexmoss5879]

Wow, didn't know they had some 4-blade props back then! You learn something new everyday...

[@b212hp]

I've seen pictures of DH.2's with racks outside of the cockpit (2 each side) so they could carry 4 additional Lewis drums. The DH.2 was also better than the Eindecker because it was one of the first WWI aircraft to have ailerons for roll control in place of the much less efficient wing warping.

[@MagzGTV]

I've seen that picture as well, as far as I was able to find out that was not standard but something custom made by the pilot.

[@JadentheDrow]

Sir Douglas Bader refered to the throttle control as "blipping" the throttle. It's on the "Salute in Sound on the 50th anniversary of the R.A. F." He narrates an airshow from an Avro 504 through to a BAC Lightening.

[@babaganoush6106]

thats the first time ive heard anyone refer to the 'Salute in Sound' I have the LP bought in 1968 using pocket money lol

[@JTelli786]

Must have been great to not have all of that castor oil spray all over the pilots.

[@MagzGTV]

Considering how ingesting unburned caster oil acts as a laxitive I would say yes, that would have been a plus :P

[@tazzie165]

watching this at school

[@wdtaut5650]

I had the rare experience of meeting a Camel pilot many years ago. He was nearly deaf from exhaust noise and said his digestive system had never recovered from inhaling castor oil fumes.

[@nathanadams1332]

Congrats on the sponsership!!! Proof of a good channel.

[@davidhobson7652]

The Eindecker may have had the first true machinegun interruption gear.... But it was a modified French Morane Saulnier with metal wedges on propeller done by its pilot Roland Garros that was first successful attempt

[@davidhobson7652]

Great Video by the way like how you go into such detail with describing the planes weakness and advantages

[@davidhobson7652]

the Eindecker did have the first true successful interruption gear for machinegun yet it wasn't perfected as Ace pilot Max Immelmann discovered when synchronizing gear fail on his Eindecker and he blew his propeller apart

[@Turbodog1]

I missed your videos of this game, thanks for bringing it back mate.

[@Desertduleler_88]

I'd love to see more WW1 battles on Rise of flight great viewing.

[@synthwavecat96]

1:19 Not...entirely. The D.H.2 was brought about by a request for a fighter with a forward firing gun, the Fokker wasn't really seen much if at all at the time.

[@billradloff1919]

Ah, one of my favorite WWI era planes, just because its actually quite pretty looking. I really do need to get a better computer so that I can get into RoF though...tried it once on my laptop, and discovered that flying those planes at 2fps on absolute minimum settings is impossible :(

[@hondansx1000]

hey magz hope you're having a great day. Nice seeing Rise of Flight again

[@outwiththem]

@ Pusher airplanes hold speed records for props. Even today. Nazis were building them to 500 mph in 1944, but B17's destroyed the factory twice..

[@ScottRuggels]

this game looks so pretty. especially appropriate, so close to EAA Air Venture this past weekend.

I would love to see more Rise of Flight on this here channel man, I love this game and watching your gameplay is quite the enjoyable experience :D

[@stefanamacker]

Switzerland use this Plane too in WW1. I'm from Swiss :D

[@supertrinigamer]

Quick question, could you do a video on how to control this aircraft and use it well? it's adorable and I'd love to learn to fly it. Currently I'm only really good with the Dr.I, Sopwith Pup, and the Eindecker.

[@dylanaiken6137]

So glad to see another rise of flight video, and somehow your videos keep getting better. Keep it up Magz!

[@MyMagicalPeanut]

Would love to see more ROF content like this. Really enjoyable and informative.

[@babaganoush6106]

and wrong so not quite informative

[@SekritKomrade]

Ty Audible for sponsoring MagzTV

[@Cdodders27]

The magazines used by aircraft Lewis Guns were of a higher capacity than the standard infantry ones, up to 97 rnds. I think the aircraft Lewis guns also removed the barrel shroud

[@shocktrooper2622]

They removed the Barrel Jacket, mainly because you had air cooling that didn't require the Air cooling jacket

[@MagzGTV]

Some did but not all and not the one in the DH.2 The problem with the 97 round drums is that they are twice the size and twice the weight. In the DH.2 the Lewis is right in front of the pilot, the 97 round drum actually prevented the pilot from moving easily while also being quite difficult to change while flying the aircraft so the standard 47 round infantry drum was used in instead.

[@Cdodders27]

I stand corrected good sir!!

[@JookySeaCpt]

Thanks for the RoF video, Magz! I have just started getting into this game while I wait for Star Citizen 3.0. Any chance we can get more videos I like this? I really enjoyed the historical background on the plane you are flying.

[@mrc4912]

Having a 'pusher' type engine/prop solves the problem of synchronizing the machine gun to fire through the prop...

[@spiritfoxmy6370]

Shoutout to the SPAD S.A for "ingenious if unsuccessful solutions to the lack of interrupter gear"

[@joker_g7337]

there's a mod to add life to the airfields.

[@MagzGTV]

Really? That's news to me. Wouldn't happen to have a link too it, I wouldn't mind a bit more activity around the airfields.

[@toofless4541]

Yes please tell us what it is called.

[@chrishansen456]

Thanks for telling us!

[@momotheelder7124]

superb visibility.

[@joshhartley2038]

"fly smart, fly safe" he said. Flying just above no man's land.... Haha

[@Lord.Kiltridge]

It seems to me that the propeller was mounted backwards on the plane in the video. You can see it right at the end, when the engine stops.

[@briandenison2325]

How was the gun fired? Via the pilot pulling the trigger on the gun? Or did he use a button on the control yoke?

[@tkestrel2100]

Mags, a little help if u will please. I play RoF a lot and love the career mode, but when im on combat patrols and find observation or bomber aircraft. I usually leave them alone. Im terrified of its gunners. Can u please make a video or just explain in the comments on how to take down a plane with gunners?

[@b212hp]

Those observation planes should be your primary target. They are there to find targets for the artillery and to map your army's trenches. I haven't played RoF yet, but as a guess hitting them from below would afford you the best protection. A head on pass at, or slightly below, their altitude would also protect you from the gunner. Good luck!

[@thenoobinator3508]

tKestrel a few tips: -dont attack from the rear (it gives the gunner to much time to fire and you are flying in a straight line) -use high speed diving attacks -minimize the amount of time your opponent has to fire on you -Always aim for the center of the plane (youll hit the crew or engine) -Exploit enemy gunner's blind spots

[@brendaproffitt1011]

Great video and incredible information on this ww2 plane and awesome job too....and the landing was great too..I do greatly appreciate it and I enjoy your videos to..Thank you so much

[@NowAndyPlays]

ww1 plane* ;)

[@brendaproffitt1011]

Andy [Xvixx] totally Awesome thank you so much for your answer and I do greatly appreciate it too

[@brendaproffitt1011]

Your welcome still great job

[@DeadBaron]

Utterly love this game. Wish they would make a modern sequel. The aircraft still look great IMO, but some models and the ground textures are definitely starting to show their age. Not to mention the playerbase is a shadow of its former self.

[@JTelli786]

Didn't the company go out of business? Or am I remembering wrong?

[@DeadBaron]

Nope, they're the same people working on the Il-2 series. I still get emails from them every once in a while about sales, and until recently updates.

[@flonp2396]

Dead Baron you’re getting your wish.

[@rgardana8068]

Gr88lukes9090 Yup!

[@sugarnads]

The later rotaries had a switch in the stick to turn the engine off, with was spring loaded. Hence the 'brrrrrrm...brrrrrm...brmmmmmm' sound as they land, on off on off on off...

[@arthurcrego8297]

Very interesting even today,

[@dadsongs]

Gorgeous video! Thank you.

[@KB4th]

Good vid mate and great historical data on the DH.2.....

[@mtnmist1]

Great to see more RoF; thanks Magz

[@ahhtaczy1578]

Yah, another Magz video.

[@mcolasante91]

What are these graphics from? Great videos you have BTW thank you

[@alexandru.g8746]

MAGZ I DIDN T WATCHED STILL THE VID AND I KNOW THAT IS GONNA BE GOOD!

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

*I ♥ DH.2s!!!!*

[@Taluien]

That was a surprising amount of fun and information to watch for me. Not that big on WW1 aviation, so yeah, thanks for it. Enjoyed it. One question, I guess you flew with headtracking, right? Bet that makes lining up a shot not all too easy, since the sight picture tends to wobble all over the place.

[@MagzGTV]

indeed, you have to follow the tracers a bit and hold your head to line up the shots when shooting. Makes it hitting the target a little bit more of a challenge but it pays back with the ability to look past the rear of the aircraft or around the wings to see who is trying to kill you.

[@Smikkelboy69]

Hi Magz :) Please play more Rise of Flight, I love WWI air warfare.

[@Perktube1]

I saw a clip of an actual dh2 in flight. The pistons don't spin as I had thought.

[@BRZ513]

Wow! RoF! Awesome! ^_^

[@brucefoster2289]

Jimmy mccudden rather liked this machine. I think he got 5 victories with it. The"spinning incinerator" only received this name due to poor pilot training.

[@hitmanbluesband]

Can I use the RoF DH2 with Sturmovick Great Battles? I'm guessing no, but it's worth asking since they don't offer it (and I bought Sturmovick after RoF promoted it). Thanks!

[@Cybermat47]

Magz, any chance of a video on the Ilya Muromets and/or Sikorsky S-16?

[@MagzGTV]

Maybe, I don't have all the aircraft in RoF yet but I will see what I can do.

[@Nailed_it23]

7 hours in to a 10 hour download Magz uploaded a new vid watches asap

[@thexgoat11]

Are you using VR in this video? If so how do you set it up because I know the game does support VR by itself right now.

[@tkestrel2100]

The Goat i believe mags actually uses some sort of head tracking software

[@Smikkelboy69]

What is that box on top of the wing?

[@seanmcardle]

Nice

[@h3lliks208]

Is the viggen mission still comming magz?

[@mrbrianbrush]

Great game good video

[@gedas6513]

Hey magz i just started getting back into Rise of flight and i keep overheating the engine on campaing mode. if i dont go full throtle i cant catch up to the rest of my squadron but if i try to not overheat the engine i keep falling behing a lot. any idea?

[@techpriest8965]

Is this game made for flightstick or does it have mouse+keyboard setup?

[@tkestrel2100]

Techpriest flughtstick is definitely the better choice, hut it does have the option to fly eith a mouse and keyboard. Idk how it works since i have never used it

[@bohlder]

Did WW1 planes have the neg G issues other planes had?

[@MagzGTV]

Yes

[@tkestrel2100]

Yep. Being made of wood and canvas, they very easily folded their wings if flown too agressively

[@bohlder]

What about the negative gee with the fuel? Will it stall the engine?

[@tkestrel2100]

Fro my experience no. My wings usually come off if i pull more than probably negative 2.5 Gs

[@Kilo-sz4ch]

Hi mags

[@ZdrytchX]

discord invite still expired, you gonna fix that wit ha pemranent invite?

[@dingusmcgee3230]

did you give up on war thunder? i haven't watched you in ages

[@sarpkaplan4449]

can it go backwards ?

[@MagzGTV]

nope, only one direction and one speed, its off or forward at full power.

[@xavierh.5102]

sort of comical how the planes just break apart in the air like a balsa wood kit plane... probably because they basically were balsa wood kit planes :P quite a change from the black and orange streaks planes in DCS and war thunder leave after being shot down.

[@MagzGTV]

Your not wrong, Balsa wood, Canvas and glue held in place by string. These days we wouldn't even consider making aircraft out of those kinds of materials but in the first world war. . .

[@derptank3308]

MagzTV o

[@meep7982]

How do you get your AIs to behave like that bc when I play rise of flight and I fight bots all they do is turn in a circle the whole making the dogfight boring and uneventful

[@MagzGTV]

Turn the difficulty off low, I play on only the highest or second highest difficulties.

[@meep7982]

MagzTV also when I plugged in my joystick and got in game my plane just freaked out.It just went into a spin with out me doing anything I have tried every thing it's like my sensitivity is at 10000

[@timur22993]

What are the chances of pilots survival on those crashes? They look rather soft, maybe even softer then a car crash

[@baummbt8375]

Timur Pirkhal would be like driving a go kart into a wall at 150 km/h so not very soft

[@tkestrel2100]

Plus the life span of a fighter pilot back then was only about 3 weeks

[@andrezkamotu]

DH2's speed and turning rate are worse than that of much bigger and heavier F.E.2b, also pusher...

[@Skyhawk1998]

It makes sense when you consider the disgusting amounts of drag that the tail assembly adds. Having all those tubes and wires facing the wind will hold a plane back pretty severely.

[@darkblood626]

No throttel? No wonder so many pilots died.

[@tkestrel2100]

darkblood626 funny thing the Eindecker also lacked any form of throttle control. I have made the mistake in RoF several times with cutting the engine and waiting too long to start it up and having to emergency land. Not the best thing to do when kn the middle of a fight

[@Lemard77]

It's a thing with rotary engine designs If i'm correct?

[@tkestrel2100]

Super Étendard im not sure about that. Maybe really early rotary engines but other ww1 aircraft eith rotary engines did have a throttle. It could have just been because of such an early design and the demand forced them to rush the design but thats just a guess

[@rwd76]

Who needs a throttle, eh? They are for losers. The DH2 was also very cold to fly, but the engine did provide a bit of protection for the pilot. Another reason for the French engine that that the French produced more aircraft engines during WW1 than either Britain or Germany.

[@MagzGTV]

YOu would be amazed how many WWI aircraft had no throttle control, was a crazy time for aviation.

[@B.A.P_Golden_Eagle.]

It sounds like a lawnmower lol

[@swisstraeng]

and it is!

[@MagzGTV]

Most WW1 aircraft do, and they have similar power outputs to large lawnmowers today as well.

[@eloipreto]

I really prefer RoF business model to lets say BoS/BoM or war thunder. Would love to see expansions for it at least up to Korea era jets. No grind for vehicles and the modules to unlock are really extras and not necessary equipment. Also instead of having so many vehicles, the different modules we could install would be what would give the version of the plane, lets say you start with a spitfire mkIa and as you install/uninstall modules you could building all other spitfires. Just a thought.

[@MagzGTV]

RoF is made by the same people that are making BoS/BoM/BoK and uses a very similar business model. All the grind that was in the original release of the IL-2 series has been removed. It's now just buy the expansions that you want and go. Unlike RoF however each aircraft comes with all of it's upgrades so no need to buy them extra. Personally I would hate to see them develop outside of the time frame they are aimed at. Your module idea also wouldn't work, there are a hell of a lot of difference between each spitfire model regardless of how similar they look and it's the same story with pretty much every aircraft series.

[@eloipreto]

MagzTV I know they are the same people, what I meant was that I would like to see everything in one title, for example make the BoS, BoM and BoK be expansions for RoF, kind of like DCS where you have all different games inside one. Regarding the different modules/versions of planes I probably didn't explain it well, if we would compare it with the WT tech trees it would be more of a estetic difference, it could still have all the different flight models for different versions and all but the way they would be presented would be like instead of the mods that we have in WT to unlock we would have the different versions for each plane, making for a much cleaner tech tree and unlockables for planes that make sense to exist instead of what we have there. In the end maybe its me going back to an old vídeo of yours when you showed the mouse aim in il2 saying that it could be the competition WT needed. Btw, love the editing of your vídeos and you make me watch games that I'm not able to play, example cold waters, its like I'm watching a movie. Good stuff and thanks for your work.

[@Lemard77]

BoS/BoM/BoK are also part of the same game, pretty much like DCS. It's just a single game and your account gets cleared to use the content you have bought. You just buy one, download everything, and then you can use more if you buy the content expansions. You can have all the planes from all the expansions as AI, fly in the servers with all the maps and all the people flying all the planes around you (as long as they are available in the mission). You can even fly in MP server missions that have maps from expansions you don't own.

[@eloipreto]

Super Étendard now that is something I didn't knew, I only bought CoD and stopped there because it was already more than my computer could handle. Good to ear that and I'll defenetly pick those out when I get the hardware for it (full of il2 1946 nostalgia).

[@sc18594]

Rise of flight is a pile of mud with a huge diamond in it. Make more RoF video and come play with us people its free D:

[@tkestrel2100]

Colonel Dick Faggotson i play rof a lot. Its a great game. One of my favorite and because of its age it has no strain on my laptop at all so i can play it with very little graphic issues