Rise of the Peter Pans

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Order of Man

Order of Man

Күн бұрын

We've all seen the movie, Peter Pan. It's fictional work but it seems that more and more it paints an eerily familiar picture with what we see in the boys who never want to grow up into men.
This is how we correct the situation...

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@maserati1990
@maserati1990 6 жыл бұрын
The longer individuals are 'helped' the harder it is to break from dependency.
@sterlingglessing2024
@sterlingglessing2024 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@31kiloradioraven63
@31kiloradioraven63 5 жыл бұрын
Totally correct
@Saber23
@Saber23 2 жыл бұрын
@stevenstrumpf7 that’s such horse shit 😂
@Saber23
@Saber23 2 жыл бұрын
Lol or we teach people to stand on their own and not be idiotic 🤣
@bathysphere1070
@bathysphere1070 5 жыл бұрын
Take no responsibility without also talking authority. If someone demands that you take responsibility for a thing, refuse unless you are also given authority over that thing.
@someguysopinion3692
@someguysopinion3692 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for fighting for men. God bless you bro
@richdog490
@richdog490 5 жыл бұрын
I think that the Peter Pan syndrome is a sad and tragic consequence of males not completing being a boy. Boys are forced to enter into schools where elementary education is massively female dominated, they are medicated, they are never supported in learning how to use their boyish energy constructively, they are not supported in embracing their physicality (which is a different developmental need that girls have), and a lot of fathers in prior generations thought it was too "effeminate" to be very involved in their children's lives while they were small and we're now seeing the effects as "Peter Pans." The response is not "oh what a piece of crap" (this isn't to say that I condone the behavior). It should be: he needs emotional help, support, and healing.
@jondecarbonel8158
@jondecarbonel8158 5 жыл бұрын
Nailed it.
@numbers9696
@numbers9696 4 жыл бұрын
I think you’re onto something.
@TheInfantry98
@TheInfantry98 4 жыл бұрын
“What a piece of crap” no wonder why the suicuide rate is so high
@patriciamartin6756
@patriciamartin6756 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Help. I am stuck with a 54 year old Peter pan that feels insecure unless I am there beside him. I can't even leave thr room to grab a cup of coffee without him having a temper tantrum. If I go to thr bathroom, he has to go with me. One time I tried to set limits and filled up a bottle with milk and told him to take a nap but when I walked away he picked me up and pulled off my clothes and demanded sex. He never sleeps more than 2 hours at a time so all night he wants company. His mother abandoned him when he was 5 years old to foster care. He recently had an accident that ruined his balance. I am afraid to leave him by himself because he fell down and got a concussion. I am exhausted
@richdog490
@richdog490 3 жыл бұрын
@@patriciamartin6756 So then draw boundaries with him. He alone is responsible for his emotional well being, while you alone are responsible for yours. You cannot become sick enough to help sick people get well. You cannot become unhappy enough to help unhappy people become happy. You cannot abandon yourself enough to help those who feel chronic abandonment feel belonging. You know what it is that you need to do in the situation, listen to your gut.
@MTD4dz
@MTD4dz 5 жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson knocked this concept out if the park years ago, he also makes the point of Wendy being a real relationship for Pan, that contends with Tinkerbell. Unfortunately the Wendy's of today want to be Captain Hook and they want government to own the ship.
@semperintrepidus16
@semperintrepidus16 4 жыл бұрын
Well stated
@chrisgould101
@chrisgould101 4 жыл бұрын
Never mind changing boys. I was extremely medicated for my boyish ways. Where the hell have the real women gone.
@LouisaWatt
@LouisaWatt 3 жыл бұрын
The role of good men is pivotal for development for both boys and girls. Everyone needs to strike balance in who they are and what life demands from them. Great stuff.
@EsotericOccultist
@EsotericOccultist 6 жыл бұрын
They don't want to be a utility any more. Men want to chill and enjoy their lives like they see women getting to do. Men want to live lives that allow them to saunter around in flip flops and ignore criticism. Why not? Women do it all the time. It's just equality lol
@brigandboy1425
@brigandboy1425 5 жыл бұрын
Peter Pan is a character who has no responsibility, and flies away from adulthood. But he can never leave his island. It seems fun from the outside, and maybe even is fun for Peter, but it isn't fulfilling. The moment he leaves his island, he has to change. I think I agree with you about forcing your kids to leave the island and change. It has to be a goal, if nothing else. No matter how comfortable it is, being stuck in a comfortable prison is still being stuck in a prison.
@SpiKSpaN-ei6zq
@SpiKSpaN-ei6zq Жыл бұрын
Different strokes
@martincets8334
@martincets8334 5 жыл бұрын
How does one even begin to find out what they want in life? Getting a job and earning an income is not so hard. But doing that without your soul withering away, that's the question. It cripples a man when he knows he got great potential, but nowhere to direct it.
@fitlife1205
@fitlife1205 5 жыл бұрын
Martin cets yes!!!
@eagleclan75
@eagleclan75 5 жыл бұрын
Come on what you talking about me?
@zedrockiby
@zedrockiby 5 жыл бұрын
Martin cets you need to do some self evaluation. What is to you really want from life? How important is money? What are your passions? What are you good at? What do you know you really don’t want? I try to focus on four things: What am I good at? What do I love? Will this thing pay me? Does the world need it? If it passes all four of these criteria then you’ve just found your reason for being. Once you’ve found it, don’t ever let it go and chase down until you’ve caught it - even if that means making extreme sacrifices
@angeltesfayexo6909
@angeltesfayexo6909 5 жыл бұрын
Martin cets exactly what I’m thinking about constantly
@furyberserk
@furyberserk 5 жыл бұрын
@@zedrockiby You need to find what you love though. Most of the time is wanting to be like Bruce Lee, but it's not the martial arts or the acting or the personality. It's understanding what is love and what is infatuation. If you don't try, you are just throwing yourself down a dead end until you can get out while it's beating you down, still looking for that love and trying to learn how to get into it as well. It's more difficult than you think and there is no starting point. The video is saying he wants people to pick themselves up from nothing not knowing how or if it's possible by just suffering it. Sissyfuss will never get that boulder up that mountain. What needs to be taught is to recognize dead ends to not waste time. Wasting time doing something looks worse than wasting time doing nothing. It's all about perspective and he's hoping they just figure it out on their own without the interest. That doesn't work. People will suffer to survive obviously, but will take any advantage they can, thus the suing of his parents, but you must also be willing to suffer for what you love. Most game devs for blizzard work for uber cause they don't get paid enough money, barely see their families during crunch time and should be getting somewhere, but sometimes its an 8 year long failure and thats your entire resume. A lot of these are not good enough.
@melvinmolly4151
@melvinmolly4151 5 жыл бұрын
Most men after high school have NO skills, and no ability to aquifer resources to live.. This is NOT exactly the 50s any more when you could just get a job that pays a livable wage, and move out.. Most people have to either move up at a job they are in, or go to a trade school to learn a skill to make money... I disagree with you completely.. I was allowed to stay with my folks until I could afford my own place, so I did not have to give money to a land lord.. I am actually a land lord today, thanks to them..
@jewberggoldstein7112
@jewberggoldstein7112 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@jewberggoldstein7112
@jewberggoldstein7112 5 жыл бұрын
Hes missing the fact its about support and encouragement. Helping your kids to succeed and not mollycoddle them into eunuchs. Theres a huge difference. Massive. I'll bet you pulled ypur weight and you and your parents were happy. Also ever ask yourself why is it that the 50s it was easier to own property and move out etc? Than now? I'll give you a hint it has something to do with usury and mass immigration and 100% to do with Jewry. Yes. I went there. Look into it, how intrest slavery and our economy works, these paper rectangles are tied to nothing its just paper and isnt bound to anything. Use them for hard assets amap land property animals weapons tools etc when you can because it won't last forever.
@melvinmolly4151
@melvinmolly4151 5 жыл бұрын
@@jewberggoldstein7112 .. Yes there is a difference between living with, and living off of your parents..
@jewberggoldstein7112
@jewberggoldstein7112 5 жыл бұрын
@@melvinmolly4151 of course there is yeah.
@zacharycollins1817
@zacharycollins1817 4 жыл бұрын
ok thanks for letting us know
@Little.R
@Little.R 5 жыл бұрын
As a dude in my early 30's, still single but have my shit together. I get called "Peter Pan" by women despite owning a home and taking care of myself financially. People are nuts. Edit: I also grew up in a fatherless home.
@teriyakov
@teriyakov 5 жыл бұрын
@Dan Blizerian It's only dangerous if you pick your women like you pick your socks out the draw. Be picky.
@teriyakov
@teriyakov 5 жыл бұрын
@Dan Blizerian Ha, if you mean the Matrix analogy, I disagree. Blue pill would be settling for any women as a status symbol or even being afraid to engage with them altogether for fear of rejection. Whereas red pill would be maintaining higher personal standards and putting in work to find the right woman to compliment your ethos IF you wish to.
@danivanbuskirkbeil2557
@danivanbuskirkbeil2557 5 жыл бұрын
That's ridiculous From my pov as a woman an unmarried man who supports himself works hard has hobbies and focus is the furthest thing from a Peter pan I can't imagine why women would say such a thing Have you rejected them perhaps? Keep living your life and ignore petty women
@renehenriksen1735
@renehenriksen1735 5 жыл бұрын
What they call a real man is a psychopath/alfa-male. The very same women who tease you are the same women who wants to supress you. So what are they saying these things for? Logically they got what they wanted didn´t they?
@donmamon9263
@donmamon9263 5 жыл бұрын
It depends man. You look good on paper. However, are you needy and emotionally dependent when dating? Are you emotionally stunted? These things turn some people off.
@Thekoryosmenstribepodcast
@Thekoryosmenstribepodcast 5 жыл бұрын
Your awesome brother! Thank you, I've been having a rough time. Single father with 3 kids, it's tough but I step up to the challenge, work hard, but sometimes I feel like it's not good enough. Like no matter how hard I bust my ass I get nowhere. No matter what I just keep pushing through it all. But sometimes frustration gets me down.
@you_a_noob8295
@you_a_noob8295 5 жыл бұрын
I feel this Single with three as well, the world is tough now but hearing others in my position keep going forward and will come out better than ever 😊
@jackrussell3084
@jackrussell3084 5 жыл бұрын
You are spot on. Had baby boomer parents and they were not around most of my childhood. I had to learn and discover without them hovering over me and I had a rich childhood. Us Gen Ys are now parents and we are like big kid best friends to our children. We play with them, we are more excited about lego sets, video games, and the latest kid movies than our small children are. By trying to be more involved in our kids lives, we have stolen from them an ability to teach self reliance. We encourage them to stay at home past 30 so they can save a deposit for an over priced shoe box house. We dont protest when they blow all their saving on a peter pan trip to Thialand.I think for the current masculinity crisis we also neeed to look at gen X and gen Y parenting styles
@hamothemagnif8529
@hamothemagnif8529 5 жыл бұрын
Rites of passage are an important way to convince a male to leave his boyhood behind. We’ve lost this process. Basic training and boot camp are the closest remnants of the process I can think of.
@semperintrepidus16
@semperintrepidus16 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly, the leftist policies of the last two decades have gone a long way to emasculate the US military. Special Operations units are trying to hold out, but it seems to be a losing battle. Ironically, it's a boyish type of invincibility thinking that provides the basic raw material for such elite units. It's the conventional forces that really need basic old school manhood and maturity the most. The evidence I see suggests that the best of America's youth is still attracted to military service (such is the legacy of an honorable service history), but the standards of real manhood have been dropping more and more along with the greater western degradation of masculinity.
@TheInfantry98
@TheInfantry98 4 жыл бұрын
@@semperintrepidus16 tell that to my brothers in arms and I who went through hell in OEF as Infantrymen. In a firefight or combat situation it doesn’t fucking matter if your Peter Pan or not. Your training and warrior spirit is all that matters during that very violent event. A strong young man is born with the warrior Spirit which draws them to the war fighting MOS which always separates us from weak civilians
@chrisgould101
@chrisgould101 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed 109%. By this point I couldn't do even basic training cos I'd already had fkn ptsd!
@newbleppmore7855
@newbleppmore7855 3 жыл бұрын
many men don't have the intellectual capacity to join the military, Modern militaries have incredibly high standards
@michaelwalker8707
@michaelwalker8707 3 жыл бұрын
Boot Camp was a good institution. Now a passive vehicle. It's time for the remaining men to plan plant seeds of wisdom. Sadly, my 20 year old grandson is basically a 12 year old punk. He once asked me "do you ever stop?" My reply "do you ever go?".
@mchristr
@mchristr Жыл бұрын
The ideal would obviously be to have the wisdom of an 80-year-old, and the body of a 30-year-old. Do the best you can to attain, and retain, both.
@jgdhjjdkgj1857
@jgdhjjdkgj1857 6 жыл бұрын
I disagree with you on the idea of pushing out your kids once they turn 19 though. You should never pamper your kids, but this new idea which started after ww2, where families just push out their kids to live on their own in apartments instead of living With their big families, as humanity is made to function in nature, is wrong. Every clan/family should be headed by a paterfamilias/a dictatorial father figure, with certain direct democracy among all adult men. The "Core" family, or Kärnfamilj, as we call it in sweden, of mum, dad, 2 kids is one of the issues with modern society.
@coleharris8045
@coleharris8045 6 жыл бұрын
I see your point Swede. But there is a difference between living with your extended family and retaining your independence and agency, and allowing the safety of your parents home to shelter and restrict you. Many young men make the mistake of never fully blossoming because they remain at home. They never go out and find out what the world is like, and what their place in it is.
@dogmayne8071
@dogmayne8071 6 жыл бұрын
You make a valid point, however I believe it is a good age for a kid (19) to move out and learn to fly on his own. He needs to learn how to be his own man so he can continue the family and expanding the kin. I agree with you the core family is very important and it is saddening to see such strong forces trying to break it in our beloved country. Alltid kul att se en annan svensk ;)
@jlzpacheco
@jlzpacheco 6 жыл бұрын
The Swede This can be done in many ways. The kid can do exchange programs for students. He can also live with friends for sometime.
@jaxonlindsey9457
@jaxonlindsey9457 6 жыл бұрын
I disagree. That's the way the world views it. Don't take this personally, but that view point is the reason Sweden is going downhill FAST. The lack of the "Core" family, the lack of the nuclear family is one of the biggest issues in modern society. If your kids don't learn to fend for themselves, they will never be able to function in society. If you're stuck in a family setting, you'll become nothing but a leach. Nothing is more punk rock than having a good family and raising your kids with good values, and in a way that also prepares them for how the world works. Boot 'em out. NOTHING matures a person more than living on their own. Even the ancient vikings knew this. They would send their boys out into the wilderness for weeks at a time, and if they returned, it was a right of passage into manhood. Look, this doesn't mean you totally disassociate with your kids and don't help them when they legitimately need help or advice, nobody's saying that. But the loss of the "core" family is the issue. I can't turn on the damn tv without it telling me to sleep with 100 women and be a man-child.
@Thekoryosmenstribepodcast
@Thekoryosmenstribepodcast 5 жыл бұрын
@@jaxonlindsey9457 BOOM. Took the words right out of my mouth.
@justgo4033
@justgo4033 4 жыл бұрын
Parenting and the schools need to change . I grew up around a bunch of women ( feminists) being told my masculinity is toxic , that i need to talk about my feelings , being told everything a man does is immature , that i shouldnt fight or stand up for myself and i should do the dishes and the cleaning . On top of that everybody is divorced , all the familiar are broken . So i dont blame men for checking out .
@sactowncopywriting3397
@sactowncopywriting3397 4 жыл бұрын
"Women and children can be careless, but not men." -Vito Corleone
@neal7204
@neal7204 5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely enjoyed this was so on point ,keep it coming . Truth that we need
@xfallapartx88
@xfallapartx88 4 жыл бұрын
This is Exactly what dr Jordan B Peterson has been talking about for years. Wendy, being a conservative middle class woman who wants to grow up and have a family, she will not wait on Peter Pan. Peter Pan, Seeing Captain Hook as being the only thing close to what it looks like to grow up and be an adult says, hell no. And tinker bell is like the fairy of porn. Satisfying your primal desires with no commitment, or responsibility. Also, the crocodile represents time coming for Captain Hook and with eventually get him, but he is obsessed and consumed by it. And then there is Peter Pan leading the lost boys that are just like him. An old infant is an ugly thing. Personally, It hits close to home, because it’s the truth.
@fitlife1205
@fitlife1205 5 жыл бұрын
This channel is great exactly what I’ve been looking for
@peterturner5618
@peterturner5618 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the 1950s. Back then, most boys wanted to be men. John Wayne, Mickey Mantle, and Audie Murphy were my heroes. Along with my Dad, Godfather, and Uncles, all WWII Veterans. All my friends knew that when they turned 18 they had to sign up for the Draft. I'm not saying everything was great back then, but there wasn't any confusion about what it took to make a man. When we eliminated the Draft, we took away one right of passage into manhood.
@philanderton1559
@philanderton1559 5 жыл бұрын
Have you read the book Tribe by Sebastian Junger. He talks about how mammals are held the first year of their life by the mother 95% of the time, and the connection built last a lifetime, but humans, mainly in the western culture, are so quick to put their kids in strollers and in rooms alone to sleep with stuffed animals and night lights. I agree with everything you said about peter pans but wondered if you had an opinion on this or if you'd consider having Sebastian on so you two could collaborate.
@Fatelvis2
@Fatelvis2 5 ай бұрын
interesting are their cultures where the children spend the first year with the mom I hippy neighbor did use a stroller but a lot of times she had her baby on her hip
@the_feisty_vegan_llc
@the_feisty_vegan_llc Жыл бұрын
Great episode!
@arwenrosalie3031
@arwenrosalie3031 3 жыл бұрын
I am a mother with two sons and a daughter I am noticing that if I dont do anything now my sons are in great danger to become feminine like my husband. My husband complains about having to work, if he is offered a job with double the pay and he has to travel a little farther he doesn’t take the job. He neglects our home he complains about me not going out and washing the cars and mowing the lawn (even while I was Pregnant). We live in the California desert!!! Anyway his father was also very feminine he did not know how to build Or fix anything same thing with his job for years he barley afforded to feed His family because he would turn down better jobs with higher pay ( it was his wife’s problem to make that miserable amount of money to last). The more the years go by I wish I could have seen these red flags in my husband before marriage. My father is the most masculine person I know!!! I love my father he has helped us in everything around our home and to me its depressing and annoying to watch my husband sit around while my strong 53 year old father does repairs in our Home. I was a little tom Boy growing up I helped my father build, demolish, put tile floors on our home do Some plumping everything. Ao I know when something needs to be replaced and my husband laughs it off in order to not use up his money. I replaced toilet rings, painted the entire house indoors. Applied wall trimmings etc while My husband watches and sits down. I am so tired of him the way he walks as if he was all man the way he boasts and talks about himself When I know good and well he doesn’t know how to change a light bulb. I think traditional women like myself crave a masculine man thats why I am unhappy. The worst part is that my husband cannot be bothered to spend time with our sons, but I guess If they spend time with grandpa they will be better off!
@talita8882
@talita8882 3 жыл бұрын
@arwen Rosalie, I might be coming months late for this video/comment, but I couldn’t help but register here that your story broke my heart. Firstly, because it’s a very sad situation. Secondly, because you kind of described the man I almost got married to many years ago and that would become this feminine husband. I am 37 and single, but I would only get married in case I found a real man. Stories like yours should be taught to every young person, so they could reflect on the impact one can be to the people they say they love. I hope you are doing all right.
@ElreyRayo
@ElreyRayo 2 жыл бұрын
Gracias from Texas 👍
@raularmas317
@raularmas317 2 жыл бұрын
Coming from a very codependent background I've learned a growing child should do what he can do without help from Parents. When he can pick out his own clothes in a reasonable manner(accounting for weather changes) then he should not be dictated to what he should wear. When a child can tie his own shoes then that should be his responsibility until he can't (for physical reasons) or switches to Velcro. Every child ought to do what s/he can do to help him-/her- self until the cord of responsibility is severed completely. Severed completely is about the ability to actually "leave and cleave".
@guylumpkin1
@guylumpkin1 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on......don't get tired.
@NguyenTran-jz8cd
@NguyenTran-jz8cd 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for articulating this philosophy and path of masculinity! Big thumbsup to you man
@danlc95
@danlc95 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, excellent presentation.
@4babers07
@4babers07 Жыл бұрын
This episode was discussed on the AMA. I have seen this play out too many times.
@uprightnbreathin
@uprightnbreathin 4 жыл бұрын
My past fiancee decided to leave and receive child support but I had a good job and could get by. A year after my FMLA approved leave for my son's birth, I lost my job due to attendance. Turns out my absence of a week from my son's birth was used against me and the Teamsters told me they couldn't help me. My sons mom told me "if I lower my child support I will never see my son again" so I ended up having to pay 65% of my income due to the loss of my good job. I had to rely on my parents to survive because fear of the unknown prevailed. Turns out my dad was the biological dad. Who woulda known, turns out to have been a freemason thing her dad decided to profit from.
@non-wx8qm
@non-wx8qm 3 жыл бұрын
I think you lost people the last half of your statement. It's not clear.
@wyattsmeaton9696
@wyattsmeaton9696 6 жыл бұрын
Do you think children who have grown up coddled by their parents can reinvent themselves? I feel like I've grown up that way.
@abebber2008
@abebber2008 5 жыл бұрын
How has the past year been?
@SuperDeadRooster
@SuperDeadRooster 5 жыл бұрын
Just approach it from a "be the real me" not an invention mind frame.
@Thekoryosmenstribepodcast
@Thekoryosmenstribepodcast 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. I grew abused horribly, my father was not there and when he was didnt stop the abuse from my mother. I went through gangs, state group homes, lockups, court case after case, alcoholism, homelessness, death etc. And it took me to drag myself out of that horrible shit knock the dirt off, and I had to do it alone from start to finish. Through a divorce, broken relationships. I'm now a single father working 50+ hours a week, I take good care of my kids, I'm 100xs the father my dad was to my son and two daughters. I had to teach myself to be a man, to be a father, and a stand up man. Point is, no matter what you come from. You are in control of your future/destiny. You can change your mind to do anything it all depends on how bad you want it.
@EREBO95
@EREBO95 5 жыл бұрын
All in your decision and your will. Ask yourself. Better yet command yourself.
@brigandboy1425
@brigandboy1425 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. But it means going against your parents, one way or another. It means potentially cutting ties. It means being able to handle that. And it starts with little steps and self-discipline.
@arturorochoa9359
@arturorochoa9359 Жыл бұрын
This is some positive masculinity. Masculinity is a good thing and what brings in responsibility and brings in food to the family so they don’t starve
@Shannonbarnesdr1
@Shannonbarnesdr1 2 жыл бұрын
i moved out about a month and a half after i graduated high school, i had been planning it since grade 7, i wanted to move full time to palm beach gardens Florida, and sure enough i did it, i WANTED to be on my own, and live a full life, i never wanted to be a '' forever child'' and what got me is i actually had a number of people who were just flabbergasted at t he fact that i had plans and even after i moved, people were like, wow, why on earth would you want t o move out, and id tell them, because im a man, im not a child, and theyd respond with confusion and even comments like '' i cant understand why youd ever want to leave home, how can you not want to live at home ''... and im a younger of the genX group, and i was brought up, from young childhood on up, to think for myself, make choices, figure things out, i was brought up and prepared for real life, not coddled or sheltered, i had encouragement, examples and support, but i was not shielded from life, i was exposed to different things and had opportunities and experiences to build on and explore: but because i have a mild learning disability people assumed that i was, or should live like a disabled or dependent person, uumm, no, im not a victim, im not a perpetual or eternal child, i am a man, and 41 years later im still independent, i have always paid my rent and bills, in full, and on time, i have never over-drawn my bank account, i have never ended up on the streets or in jail.
@jeffjeroense9371
@jeffjeroense9371 5 жыл бұрын
Incredible episode.
@Orderofman
@Orderofman 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@user-ge5dk8qv9p
@user-ge5dk8qv9p 2 жыл бұрын
A gentle provider is so attractive and I’ve only ever seen a couple. Safe, be our home, be kind and strong and allow us to be a woman. So attractive so hard to locate.
@raularmas317
@raularmas317 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot change the family court system by myself. However, what I can do is get to know and accept myself for the man that I am-- apart from addictions, obsessions, or compulsions(impulses run amok). As a man, I am a state of focused consciousness. To the extent that I can focus on any given task and follow-through to complete the task I have operated as a responsible worker. To the extent that I allow extraneous (outside) factors to influence the performance and completion of any given task I am somewhat less than perfect.
@ViaVirtus
@ViaVirtus 6 жыл бұрын
The guy you talk about isn't a Peter Pan; he's a piece of crap. His parent's took him to court to have him evicted because he won't find a job despite them offering to line him up with people willing to hire him, won't get his car fixed or even off cinderblocks despite them offering to pay for parts, teach him how, and finally even offering to get it into a shop if he found one to work on it. He lost custody of his son after a crappy break-up with his baby-momma, and refuses to get a job so he can petition to avoid child support and get the court fees waived in his custody battle. A neck beard in his mom's basement is one thing and you're right the parents deserve shame in that case, too. This POS, on the other hand, deserves to be dragged out into public and horsewhipped because he neither protects, provides, or presides, even with his parents offering the hand up from the hole he's let himself fall into. He had lived on his own, but ran back home after the break-up. I swear its like dead-beat and 'amusement park' dads have the exact same playbook sent to them the moment they decide to become sacks of dog crap.
@jimmyknox3342
@jimmyknox3342 5 жыл бұрын
Our culture weakens our children because of a lack of discipline. I'm not talking about beating kid's asses, although that plays a part at times. I'm talking about teaching a child how, in this world, you don't get anything for nothing! Give a child a fish, you feed him one day. Teach a child to fish, you feed him for life! Spoiling a child turns him rotten. Spoil, get it? I don't like most of the children (age 30 or under) that I know. Like their parents less!
@dangg1502
@dangg1502 5 жыл бұрын
just found your channel very important topic ,good job, 5 minute of hawking wares almost got it turned off,js
@leporoso1986
@leporoso1986 4 жыл бұрын
U.S. Army on the last decade is manned by Peter Pans.
@longranger5226
@longranger5226 6 жыл бұрын
Such wisdom. Thank you!
@bryanreilly1290
@bryanreilly1290 5 жыл бұрын
Good stuff brother - happy I found this. Subbed
@raularmas317
@raularmas317 2 жыл бұрын
If I have to push my child or any child to want to grow up, to mature toward adulthood I would have damaged or broken his spirit of independence and cut him off from his own ability to be a self-starter or initiator. Children(normal, healthy children) without genetic defects don't need to be mentally or emotionally pushed or coerced into boundary-testing behaviors. They naturally find it challenging to climb the tree a little too high for them each time they climb it. It's how I as a Parent instruct a child in how to solve this kind of problem(feeling, thinking, doing) that determines if he can get down on his own or needs to call/yell or wait for help to avoid serious injury.
@LooksLegitBro
@LooksLegitBro 3 жыл бұрын
if nobody is entitled to anything are constitutional/ human rights irrelevant?
@johnpeterson2987
@johnpeterson2987 3 жыл бұрын
No one is entitled to those either. It's a piece of paper.
@phosphorus2740
@phosphorus2740 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with being a child at heart. Adults are despicable, brutal and selfish beings.
@ninav7083
@ninav7083 3 жыл бұрын
YUCK
@blackstarenaruto542
@blackstarenaruto542 2 жыл бұрын
This was a damn good pos cast! Ryan keep doing your shit bro!
@LowkiXDiator
@LowkiXDiator 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up is a good thing You are not entitled to anything Find men who are taking accountability and responsibility of their own life Find significant purpose in your life
@maruxa1996
@maruxa1996 Жыл бұрын
Even people living with a disability can also experience success, wealth and abundance to level of their own efforts and abilities.
@mebeasensei
@mebeasensei 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of people detest the guy who is playful and spontaneous..they resent it..”how dare you act playfully!,” Peter Pan is a framework to label these guys..On the other hand men have to make choices and sacrifices…true…and a lot of people who have struggled all through their childhood . They are not preserving their childhood. They are struggling..Consulting counselling is also a trap. They can be given a label, a victim hood…a profile. Nowadays, I know a nit of people who want a minimalistic life. Again, people resent this…”how come you are not paying to keep a car like me!”..it is disturbing.
@raularmas317
@raularmas317 2 жыл бұрын
Males who are enabled to make eventually free-will choices and sacrifices are the very definition of genuinely loving human beings.
@raularmas317
@raularmas317 2 жыл бұрын
Struggle is the pre-qualifier to achieve manhood. It is the daily struggle to resist childish behavior and choose accountability and responsibility instead on a consistent basis that identifies a person as an adult.
@movideos390
@movideos390 5 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 5 жыл бұрын
You know that judge just cocked his head and said, "were you in "the special classes?"
@andrepastor520
@andrepastor520 5 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you interview regular men about their day to day. Do you think that only ‘great’ men are interview worthy?
@Orderofman
@Orderofman 5 жыл бұрын
All great men were at one point what you are calling “regular men.” I have an amazing opportunity to talk with men who have lifted themselves from ordinary to extraordinary. What a waste if either of us fail to take advantage of it.
@conorm2524
@conorm2524 5 жыл бұрын
Talk to your neighbours if you want to hear from regular men. Maybe they can inspire you?
@TheInfantry98
@TheInfantry98 4 жыл бұрын
Talk to combat veterans, talk to emt professionals, firefighters, soldiers, wilderness experts (NOLS/OUTWARD BOUND), motorcyclists, skydivers. You will get an incredible amount of awesome stories, sharp POV that will definitely be different from your own. Trust me that men with these backgrounds will only enrich your view and position in our beautiful world!
@bananabender9829
@bananabender9829 4 жыл бұрын
Not all regular men are given the opportunities ( mentoring ) or finances and time to become great men. Some men are just getting by in doing that they need to do.
@nicholasbecker644
@nicholasbecker644 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! This was exactly what I needed to hear at this time in my life.
@raularmas317
@raularmas317 2 жыл бұрын
To any male looking for guidance on how to avoid the trap of dead-end jobs with little or no challenge to them I recommend you watch Owen Roberts Ted talk on risk taking vs. the "average job" called 'Chances lead to Choices'.
@31kiloradioraven63
@31kiloradioraven63 5 жыл бұрын
Sr this is and was a great podcast, all words spoken are true.
@Fatelvis2
@Fatelvis2 5 ай бұрын
I agree that if you hang with failures to launch you will not recognize when you are screwing up you will think their and your own behavior is normal at the same time when I watch the trailer for riding giants and how these guys left home to ride big waves.....hey if you can support yourself living full do it
@kyleroberts3121
@kyleroberts3121 5 жыл бұрын
Nah man i think i wont grow up and ill enjoy money in the bank and owning land for now. Im 32 next year and gonna focus on my hobbies.
@TheInfantry98
@TheInfantry98 4 жыл бұрын
I love my hobbies being totally free zero attachments no lady bitching at me. Shit I have accomplished something that 99.9 of men will never achieve plus I’m currently training to be an emt. I can jump out of planes whenever I want, race motorcycles travel hiking in the mountains while having money in the bank. Single is the best
@raularmas317
@raularmas317 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like the Parents who are evicting their Son have finally responsibly accepted the truth that they helped create a very dependent Son. So... They must resort to the extreme measure of evicting their own Son when he refuses to "launch" from his family of origin home because as a pseudo-adult he is way too comfortable in his Parents' home. He is a child at 20 or 30-something years old because it was allowed.
@petefrancisco3267
@petefrancisco3267 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how old is Peter aka David! Nagtrabaho sya sa mcdo parang 20 yrs old lang sya!!! 1989 and 1996!!!
@Coach-DC
@Coach-DC 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree. I train some young men who have come up completely babied by mom. They don’t know how to be men.
@richardterry1889
@richardterry1889 6 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: Put links in the description that you mention in the video. Especially your sponsors.
@marthamartin4157
@marthamartin4157 5 жыл бұрын
I discovered this channel yesterday... Binge time then from now on. Love your content ♥
@timypaul
@timypaul 3 жыл бұрын
💯 Facts!
@djkrptdnb
@djkrptdnb 5 жыл бұрын
Great video here - just a question and apologies if it’s been touched upon before, but do you have any advice/other podcast episodes specifically for raising girls? 🙏🏻
@thebiggestpanda1
@thebiggestpanda1 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think this will be successful unless divorce and family court laws change. Also, men only spaces need to be legal again.
@Muffergorillatag
@Muffergorillatag 3 жыл бұрын
I call them bums
@randystone4903
@randystone4903 Жыл бұрын
Peter's origin story describes him closer to the god Pan and being a real SOB. Disney's sanitized version pretty much is similar to the kids today living in a delusional world. A man needs challenges to overcome to find self worth. For males who come from a toxic home that Mom and Dad sabotages the masculinity of their son I recommend the Adult Children of Alcoholics organization. An offshoot of AA, the ACA does a very good job of bringing like minded people together who want healing. Also, I wouldn't focus on the problems of single mothers, the problem is the absent dad and his missing financial support for his children. A lot of single mothers do a better job raising kids than 2 parent households. We will never go back to the 1950s nuclear family of a Dad working and Mom stays home to raise the children. All I can do is help foster kids the best I can, there are plenty to go around for all of us.
@namdo8958
@namdo8958 5 жыл бұрын
Doing God's work right here my man Ryan
@yequalsemexplusbee4322
@yequalsemexplusbee4322 4 жыл бұрын
I moved out at 18 and lived with my friend. Got an apartment working a nice and stable job. Here I am doing cartwheels and chasing my fat ass cat around the house. Live life and be happy. Embrace the little things ya feel me?
@MrSymbolic7
@MrSymbolic7 3 жыл бұрын
This problem went from Bad to epidemic years ago in the U.S.A. ! I have several drunks , but one really bad soul living down the street ( in a neighborhood)from me that just get shit faced drunk and pop wheelies on every thing that will roll , dirt bikes , 4 wheelers , UTV'S ,if it's a toy they own it and 50-60 mph is their preferred speed ! So, I approached the gang and asked what their issue was in life and it's been me vs.the gang ever since the other (men on my street and I use the term loosely ) are afraid to speak up and that's the problem no cohesiveness or unity to stop what is age wise grown men (30-40) that are actually stuck at 8-10 years of age mentally and emotionally , but after dealing with this group for years I can honestly say the real problem is the Peter Pan problem is a Bad Spirit and I mean that literally, at some point they accepted the Pan spirit which is very real and quite nasty as well , when addressed individually, I always hear the same words and with the same dialect " You don't know who you are messing with " , which isn't true I do know !
@DJC955
@DJC955 4 жыл бұрын
If we were to make it a priority to develop boys emotionally and mentally healthy until they move out we would see domestic violence diminish drastically.
@Shannonbarnesdr1
@Shannonbarnesdr1 2 жыл бұрын
we dont need just fathers, plenty of males have donated sperm unfortunately, but are not a good role model or a loving person / parent, we need loving, and positive, example setting, guiding, intelligent male father figures,
@raularmas317
@raularmas317 2 жыл бұрын
In a culture that seems overwhelmed with mediocrity and what the average person is doing the vast majority of Americans seem all too interested in keeping their kids dependents who can't think or reason for themselves. It's a kid's job to be dependent from age 0 to the age of accountability. From then on it's the "young adult's" responsibility to outproduce what they consume. Ultimately, to be value-added member of society.
@DylanZucker
@DylanZucker 4 жыл бұрын
Video starts at 4:20
@danmiller2940
@danmiller2940 5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you give your best and people hate you for it. Screw them. Give your best anyway. Work out. Read excellent books. Be smart with your money. Ignore those who espouse the effeminate male as the model for men. Homeschool your kids. Turn off the tv - yes even sports. Enjoy the outdoors and building things. This video is spot on. Embrace it.
@Red0660
@Red0660 5 жыл бұрын
You mentioned there is a very high corelation to young men who saw what place men have in the family as evidenced by the fate of their own father. My question to you is, how can a young man feel motivated when by definition men are relegated to the margins of their own society by feminist divorce laws? Why take responsibility within a system that does not reward men but rather punishes them for doing so and has 0 respect for them?
@Gabriel-iq8jw
@Gabriel-iq8jw 6 жыл бұрын
Nicely said
@arwenrosalie3031
@arwenrosalie3031 3 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinions sons should learn how to live and work to survive in order to keep a family from their fathers, and learn to love and care from their mothers yes they need both!
@dirtmcgirt01
@dirtmcgirt01 5 жыл бұрын
If America would allow people to starve to death, we would be in a better place as a country. Not because I’m a heartless asshole, but because people would do better, knowing they have no safety net.
@joebojito
@joebojito 5 жыл бұрын
Well i guess am a boy because i want to stay with my mom cause shes a sick women and am not really planning on having a wife or a girl or kids so why would i get out my house and live in a place all alone if i have someone in a house with me here and there....is better to be in company then to be alone. And i never been the type of person to just make friends and shit and am not the type of person to have a roommate.
@TheInfantry98
@TheInfantry98 4 жыл бұрын
My mom is chronically ill as well so I help her whenever I can
@malcolmtaylor518
@malcolmtaylor518 5 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for your interesting observations. What you have to say is true. We should also bear in mind, particularly in the UK, that many young people are now trapped at home with their parents because there is a massive and enduring, housing, flat and apartment shortage. Consequently rent and real estate prices are sky high. Theres no place for them, no matter what they do. Many of the available jobs are badly paying so even with parental help, renting is virtually impossible. The people responsible for this are not the young adults, the Peter pans, but us. We have allowed deplorable and constrained conditions to evolve within society. The UK society is still class ridden, or run by nouveau riche and money upstarts, who do not give a damn. We need to look to ourselves for this mess.
@johnpeterson2987
@johnpeterson2987 3 жыл бұрын
My great grandparents lived with their parents and children in the same house. The time where children could move out and get a job and buy a house was short lived. You couldn't even do that 20 years ago. It was either join the military or rent a small place with four other dudes. I'd rather do either one than live with my parents.
@taylorsavage8585
@taylorsavage8585 3 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%
@CarsonKendall
@CarsonKendall 5 жыл бұрын
I like what your doing with this channel. 👍🏼. I gotta say, I’m a bit surprised that growing a masterpiece of a beard isn’t part of the man plan! What do you think?
@joesticks2639
@joesticks2639 5 жыл бұрын
My hole childhood I was raised to think adult hood is crappy and not worth it but I always new an seen the greatest In all and strive for men to take this kind of action. Our world I believe will be more successful, growth will strengthen in mind and body, meditation and survival skills second nature, all out a better man to support life
@beautifulcaramelman
@beautifulcaramelman 3 жыл бұрын
If you're looking for the start 4:20
@moniquemosley2122
@moniquemosley2122 4 жыл бұрын
And I've always wondered why Peter Pan is played by a woman actor.🤔 I think that literary convention says something.
@andrewrentuaya9510
@andrewrentuaya9510 3 жыл бұрын
I guess to certain degree i can be called a peter pan, I still live with my parents but i have a job. Now that im investing on a land paying it for several months now i guess this is my way of initiation and proving to my parents that one day that piece of real estate that im paying montly that's where i'll live but it is a long way to go
@raularmas317
@raularmas317 2 жыл бұрын
I would say like every other human being you're a work in progress. Your willingness to make the short-term sacrifice of spent money now versus long-term investment in land and/or a home for yourself/your future family (?) says that you probably know a good deal more about being a responsible man than you give yourself credit for. And the most important person to prove anything to once you've reached your age of accountability is yourself.
@raularmas317
@raularmas317 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the Presenter. Just because I can answer a series of questions does not automatically confer upon me the needed skills, mastery of those skills or the courage to take the final steps toward the end goal alone. (Unless I have internalized enough of my own locus of control I will continue to seek out approval from other "so-called" experts or authorities in order not to disturb the status quo).
@dogmanasg88
@dogmanasg88 5 жыл бұрын
Some like me are just downright lost and with injuries and co morbid mental issues. Well not much purpose for folks like me these days. Especially when you had nothing to start with as far as any family support. I couldn't imagine having parents provide for me that in itself is part of my problem. Wanting a sense of purpose again but feel as though I am completely broken mentally and partially physically. What can I do? My inability to ask for help is partially due to all the self serving and centered people help create shame whenever anyone helps me. If I am willing to accept it in the first place.
@CraigArgyleAudio
@CraigArgyleAudio 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, so if I cannot answer the "what I want" question, if I have no desire to achieve anything or help people, what then?
@ajlasmarin
@ajlasmarin 5 жыл бұрын
The ticking tock of time, as illustrated by the crocodile in Peter Pan, is always there to remind men that eventually they will face themselves and need to answer what is most meaningful in life. Unfortunately some run from the clock (don’t get eaten by the croc!) thinking they’re “free”, but time “happens”, regardless, and who you are at the end of your life is up to you. Why waste years/decades hiding from this in the name of easy/fun? A life with structure and foundation and responsibility IMO can provide unlimited opportunity for “fun”, while at the same time allowing you to reach depths of meaning you wouldn’t have by Peter Panning your life away. For the record, I am a grown woman, I love men and am rooting for them. But I have encountered some who are stuck and incapable of partnering in a mature way. I love fun but women need to feel safe (emotionally), it’s their #1 need (google it).. It’s impossible to feel safe when your “partner” can’t be there for you in a solid way because they simply aren’t solid in their manhood. That being said I know countless men who are wonderfully mature and healthy minded. I simply hope the others realize there are plenty of good women waiting for them to experience the joy of an adult relationship.
@raularmas317
@raularmas317 2 жыл бұрын
It's a bit late in coming, but my answer to your question of " why waste years..." is that learned helplessness practiced over decades took many years to overcome. As did a "victim mentality" and/or a defeatist attitude.
@hamothemagnif8529
@hamothemagnif8529 5 жыл бұрын
treat them like babies keep them like babies
@MrRastavibe
@MrRastavibe 5 жыл бұрын
I am yet to see anything positive coming out of me taking responsibility for myself, so far its just 2 days of additional work a week on top of getting my degree. I am 26, started 1,5 years ago to really forcing myself to grow up(after dumping 4 years of work towards a worthless degree), lost 50 pounds, pay all my bills myself and study for university much more, so far no rewards at all, but i wont give up :)
@etheldrew2545
@etheldrew2545 5 жыл бұрын
As you continue to do these things the benefits will come. Keep doing the hard things that is what makes you stronger
@semperintrepidus16
@semperintrepidus16 4 жыл бұрын
The roots of the problem are as old as the great Fall. The ultimate issue is sin, but the most basic aspect is sex specific. Men and Women are profoundly different. God Himself told Adam and Eve what would be their issues. Men (Adam) would seek to avoid responsibility, yet he is tasked with being the head and being responsible for all is man's obligation. Women (Eve) would resist the authority bestowed on men, yet she is tasked to be a man's primary helpmeet. Where adherence to one's God-given roles is most strong along with resistance to the human inclination of rebellion, fulfillment in life and relationships is very high. To the degree that a man or woman rebels and associates closely with others who do the same, misery and chaos reign, and not just for those individuals, but many others, especially younger generations under such influence.
@skojigoquist9288
@skojigoquist9288 4 жыл бұрын
I recommend the book: Adam and eve after the pill -by Mary eberstadt. It's all there why boys are petwr pans.
@PC-yp5dl
@PC-yp5dl 5 жыл бұрын
Great discussion, I agree with you 💯, as long as Jesus is at the center.
@SteveDee542
@SteveDee542 5 жыл бұрын
Amen, brother.
@fwefhwe4232
@fwefhwe4232 5 жыл бұрын
what's wrong with mohamed ?
@PC-yp5dl
@PC-yp5dl 5 жыл бұрын
@@fwefhwe4232 Mohamed isn't real
@fwefhwe4232
@fwefhwe4232 5 жыл бұрын
@@PC-yp5dl in english language, letter 'j' wasn't invented till 16th century and you expect jesus to be 2000 years old lol. Mohamed, the last prophet, has more proofs of existance than your fictional fake god jesus
@PC-yp5dl
@PC-yp5dl 5 жыл бұрын
@@fwefhwe4232 Jesus wasn't called Jesus until way later. He has more than one name and different ones were used for him way back then. And it was a different language with a different alphabet. You know the dead sea scrolls? From thousands of years ago? They contain scripture from the Bible. What did Mohamed ever do for the people? What did he sacrifice? Nothing.
@italianozuzu1232
@italianozuzu1232 2 жыл бұрын
There it's alot of single mothers were the father's are not present that's killing man.
@Saber23
@Saber23 2 жыл бұрын
You act like something being made in America is a good thing
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