Rishi Sunak pledges to bring back national service

Sweden, Norway and Denmark have all recently reintroduced some form of National Service, and France is too.
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Now, months after the head of the army said Britain should train up a "citizen army" ready to fight a war, Rishi Sunak is proposing 12 months of mandatory national service.
Labour has criticised the pledge as "desperate" and "only needed because the Tories hollowed out the armed forces".
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[@JBroMCMXCI]

He’s doing everything he can to ensure the Tories lose the election. What a hero 🫡

[@wecandothiswarriors]

THAT is the truth..Lie bore next..CBDC,,Just passing the baton

[@Jamietheroadrunner]

It’s clear he’s working for Starmer. Or he’s even dumber than Liz Truss

[@Jojohumf]

They will now never get a vote but they’ll come back under a different name

[@RobBCactive]

Yep, it's like May's death tax on houses. 25 days a year, that's just an insult to our well trained professional military. It would be better to get young people to help out at hospitals and old people's homes, on schemes where they can be useful

[@our-days-are-short8254]

because the next PM will declare war 3 and he doesn't want to be that person. He knows what's coming.

[@jonsteele7227]

Does Sunak thinks his daughter will do national service in California. What BS on so many levels

[@wecandothiswarriors]

Are YOU stupid enough to think Sunaks kids will ever be on the frontline? Much like Trumps kid or Obama..Jeeeez wake up

[@sohaila6086]

His daughters will inherit his stolen wealth from British tax payers and run back to India.

[@mosheridan7016]

A bs distraction

[@theepank6620]

Never. His daughter will create a military training business company, and he will pump taxpayer money into her company. then become more and more wealthy family.

[@andromedaone3640]

His son or daughter would be well looked after unlike everyone else who will be at risk of getting killed, he don't care because he was born into a very wealthy life and had everything handled to him on a plate, health and wealth and no money worries or health concerns, he hasn't got a clue.

[@seabreezedesigns.]

Mandatory volunteering is not volunteering

[@whouni]

That's literally the definition of slavery.

[@iraceruk]

What I think is that these people who are saying it's a 'good thing' will very quickly change their minds when their own children are sent to the front line!

[@julielawlor5482]

Thank god our heros of ww1 and ww11 didnt think like you

[@HyperDevv]

@@julielawlor5482 "WW11" 💀💀☠☠😭😭

[@user-sd3ik9rt6d]

He must want the young to get out and vote against them.

[@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986]

He wants 18 year olds to do it next year they can’t even vote het

[@thomaso6579]

Even better, he wants to enslave 18yo to go and kill for capitalist interests to defend that system which has destroyed their future, and somehow thinks making them trained soldiers who are handy with guns is going to end well for him.

[@lisadefries6718]

Yep and their parents and grandparents. No wonder the country in such a mess the government evidently doesn’t have its finger on the pulse and has zero idea what ordinary people are dealing with or thinking for all their so called Think Tanks. Maybe they should use some common sense if they have any

[@michjesto2038]

000

[@MillillioN]

​@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 Very good point.

[@nlbm]

He’s now trolling us. Clearly doesn’t want to win. Bonkers pledge.

[@Jojohumf]

Young people are already fleeing the country, this will cause a mass exodus for all under 30’s.

[@klee1987]

They should send all Tories over 40 years old to Ukraine.

[@muhammedrahman7013]

No Jobs, No Homes, No Food, No Future, No Hope but Plenty of War!

[@justaguywithapowerpole]

Farts

[@user-ol6rd7pl5t]

The Tories have taken away your futures and your freedom of movement now they want your weekends too.

[@SnowCedarQueen]

Meanwhile they're stealing the coffers

[@francescapowell1538]

Not just your weekends .. they with this they are saying that theirs a possibility you loose you life and they don’t care.

[@jonsimmons4150]

i moved to paris from tottenham in 1986. no freedom of movement. no degree.. no familiy.. no money.. stayed 18 years legally.. maybe the problem is you

[@carwyngriffiths]

@@francescapowell1538First off how will they lose their life? You’re not going to get deployed when conducting national service unless there’s an extremely major conflict. And if that were the case you’d be forcibly conscripted anyway just with less time to go through training I don’t understand why people are so afraid of national service, from what I’ve read and heard it’s either from A) People don’t have a single clue what national service entails or what it is Or B) they don’t want to get their lazy A off the couch and lose some weight. I’ve had mates go through and currently going through national service aboard (it’s really not uncommon) and they’ve loved it, taught them skills, builds confidence, increases fitness. The two main concerns I have is B the budget is not there for it especially with this Tory government and the other being the lack of facilities to support it.

[@francescapowell1538]

@@carwyngriffiths Unless there’s an extremely major conflict … Right so Britain getting involved in lots of wars that they need not… no longer part of the EU, creating enemies left and right. Claim they ain’t got all the means to back themselves in a war and now they trying to bring back National Service! Seems like they fattening the pigs (an analogs) for slaughter, for when ish hits the fan. So miss me with the foolishness. Let them send their own children if it’s all cool and not that serious.

[@stevebailey5591]

How is it that unpaid work is a punishment for people found guilty of crimes but it's meant to some kind of opportunity for 18 year olds?

[@uncled39]

Why do people keep saying unpaid?

[@mrnumba154]

It is 25 days contribution a year calm down.

[@101Mant]

​@@uncled39because it's unpaid. If you join the military it's paid but not if the force you to volunteer in the community.

[@101Mant]

​@@mrnumba154for some people that will be time they cannot now work and can be significant.

[@plamerj1234]

@@mrnumba154 thats £1600 a year wages they dont have a choice in giving, would you accept a new tax like that coming out of your pocket ? i dont think so.

[@martineyles]

Volunteering is voluntary. National service is not.

[@nemesis4900]

Tbh he needs to go ! but has to be b4 there 18 years old.. 13 and up i would say sending kids to army training and Life is not bad idea! Especially ones hanging around with nothing to do and getting into trouble given them discipline and skills to doctors and other stuff just the time but is suspect with Ukraine

[@martineyles]

@@nemesis4900 It also gives them skills to load and shoot guns.

[@thematic3893]

@@martineyleshe wants a fitter, better criminal, one with actual weapons training and the ability to conduct organised crime effectively. 😂

[@samgrainger1554]

If we don't give them 0 seats then we are the idiots.

[@allip4226]

Tories going full fash with this national service nonsense. Unpaid compulsory labour isn’t volunteering, it’s slavery. Zero seats.

[@hg82met]

It's going to cost £2.5 billion, of which I'm sure a big chunk is going to some Tory donor/crony.

[@sub24871]

More waste of money from the Tories

[@kingpig8732]

Remember to tactical vote

[@MostlyLoveOfMusic]

Another unpopular idea, bye bye

[@shahsayid4840]

had the cause be good then yes send the kids but it seems that the services are more inclined towards millionaires...

[@scrp6638]

He’s just lost every potential voter who is turning 18 in the next 5 years and potentially some parents

[@zenokada2278]

In fairness those turning 18 soon can’t vote But even then having so many teenagers against you has an impact considering the campaigning and anti Tory sentiment they’ll spread So many parents will now vote against the tories He’s given them the motivation they need

[@stevenewbank]

All parents with any sense

[@blademanx1]

Why are you scared of national service. My female cousin did it in another country in the army. You lot need to learn responsibility. and discipline. You can join a charity or do something productive for your country

[@aliensliveinme]

It's just dog whistle nonsense trying to keep the grey vote on board and stop them them from voting for reform.

[@klaus1085]

​@@blademanx1you think the roadmen and immigrant children are gonna be any help at all?? 🤣 You don't know the current state of England clearly

[@TheSlimbee]

He has gone completely dolally

[@andrewlittleboy8532]

Yep, even announced an election and didn’t even tell his own party.😂

[@ghosthdel3098]

I am 100% young British male. I am too lazy to fight for this country, i would rather play COD on my PS5 where i can respawn. I heard in in real war you cannot respan back to life apparently. I've taken 20 days off work aready this year, because of "illness" ;-) , I cant imagine in the national service.

[@shab9720]

You cannot force people to volunteer. It ceases to be voluntary and becomes slave labour. The desperation is palpable from this failing government.

[@brianwillson9567]

Sunak is beyond stupid. Cleverly is the most misnamed person ever.

[@simontemplarGB]

As would Honestly.

[@user-nb4pi7yp3q]

ha, it must be one of those ironic names.

[@vinay7397]

He change his name, he felt Geniusly was too bold.

[@princeali9431]

SHISHAH SUNAK

[@adriansmith2503]

​@@user-nb4pi7yp3qI think that should have been spelled Moronic

[@ponypong261]

An unelected failure seeks the impossible. Bye-bye to all the Conservative and Unionist National Treasures.

[@maxinaw.3576]

It's a good idea but how much do they earn, the main pull!

[@SouthCartman-vy7mw]

Britain is its own enemy.

[@supervalueonline3830]

It’s a great idea. No pay, just get it done. Countries in much better state that the UK currently have got this in place. Bring some pride to this country back, time for kids to get it done !

[@Crow_Friend]

When the real prime minister is an actual spitting image puppet 😳

[@NeoFreshair]

They're clever actually ..... If youngsters sign up for training, then they'll be the first for call up if a vvar starts in eastern Europe ..... And they're going to sign some papers not knowing the consequences of joining these voluntary bulls*it ....... And there will be vans snatching volunteers who signed up just like videos of ocrainians doing same thing ........

[@clj.4874]

Maybe, instead of National Service for 18 year olds they should introduce national service for MPs. They all have to do several weeks volunteering in a school, GP, hospital, care home, social care and police within their first 12 months in office. All these ones saying good idea, soon change there mind when they send on front line as cannon fodder.

[@TimoDyer]

The military don't want it and kids need weekend jobs, not volunteer work where the tories crashed public services.

[@cocotheclown4319]

Why doesn't he volunteer to live on universal credit for a year

[@lervish1966]

Why would he do that?

[@Sunshinez732]

He's got a job.

[@a6703]

Good idea seeing as expects others to live on a quarter of what he spends on his daughter’s private schooling!

[@Politely_Indifferent]

@@lervish1966 And why would anyone in their right mind voluntarily participate in "National Service"?

[@raymondhill8973]

@@Politely_Indifferent its better than turning to crime or a life on the dole..

[@hourbee5535]

I have never seen a political party TRY so hard to lose an election.

[@sammym9259]

😂😂😂true like is this real😂😂

[@markeh1971]

Just keep watching, can only get better! M.

[@Jamietheroadrunner]

They’re probably exhausted and sick of being blamed for everything. Or Little Rishi is a fantastic double agent.

[@ramonalavigne8953]

Theresa May tried hard to lose a few years back. She wasn't as good at it as Sunak though.

[@highdefboxing8056]

@@sammym9259 I'm expecting him to put up taxes by 40% next week.

[@bigginsd1]

The idea of “mandatory volunteering” is an oxymoron. There is a reason why Western Democracies moved away from national service and conscription. Having a professional military of people who sign up and want to be there produces a much higher quality and is less wasteful. Training disinterested people for 12 months is a complete waste of money.

[@johnsinclair1386]

I’m sorry James Effing dumbly criticises young people living in a bubble away from the real world! The glass houses are fragmented.

[@Truthseeker1515]

It's insane. As a French citizen, I completed my national service in 1996 in the military. I was in one of the last contingents as it was abrogated in 1998. (1) Those with connections either did not do it or landed in cushy jobs (posted at embassies in clerical roles, no guard duty there). So much for equality and bridging a fragmented society! (2) Graduates were treated as cheap, educated labour by professional NCOs, most of whom did not even have the baccalaureate, could barely write, terribly racist and stupid. And you had to accept taking orders from these idiots like slaves. (3) Posted in filthy barracks. Disgusting food. Fancy finding worms in your green salad because it was not properly washed by a fellow conscript! (4) Those graduates who extended their national service by 3 months for officer training were considered worse than privates by professional NCOs. No benefits there. (5) That one year (it was 10 months at the time) delayed entry into the world of work. Everyone counted the days until "Liberation". Everyone hated it there. (6) Terrible salary. Back then on £120 equivalent per month! With one return train ticket back home a month. No perks, nothing. (7) Who would want to serve for an institution that serves greedy politicians who wage illegal wars? There is no such thing as society anyway as the Tories remind us!

[@lervish1966]

Au secours

[@TH-cl5be]

@@lervish1966 knob jockey

[@johnowen1677]

You can't compare the French Army with the English one. You simply can't.

[@Truthseeker1515]

@@johnowen1677 Really? Same working class trap. Flagging the patriotic flag is an abomination.

[@fuzielectron5172]

Been to many countries over the years with National Service never met any who did it and thought Yes! Quite the opposite.

[@Calum_S]

He could say anything because no-one expects the Tories to get voted back in.

[@sucker4thewitch]

..........and yet, Labour are so batshit, you can't rule out Rishi. ( and no im not voting for any of these tossers)

[@alastairjhunter3666]

They won’t be now😂

[@misscoutts6193]

Starmer will apply the same policies.

[@j.x.x.r3645]

@@misscoutts6193 Considering the way the Labour party has mocked this announcement I doubt it.

[@abeergilani]

😊😊

[@zeus-pm6lo]

What a 🔔 end, imagine sanctioning those who dont comly. What an absolute pile of shite.

[@cainjones3502]

I think the Tories can foresee something happening in the next few years that they really dont want to oversee

[@hg82met]

Doesn't matter what he pledges, he'll be on the first flight to California on July 5th.

[@albertbrammer9263]

Got to get all the results in first, then resign. So, make it July 13th.

[@casadellangelo]

It will be 5 July. Labour will have their 326 declarations by 3am or so. King will invite that afternoon. It works very quickly when there's a clear majority.

[@krisnapowell8094]

@@casadellangelo prayers do come true

[@CIOZimbabwe]

@@casadellangelo Labour will lose Conservatives will win

[@CIOZimbabwe]

@@krisnapowell8094 Conservatives will win

[@danielcraig4974]

Put Rishi Nutsak on the front line, all he's worth.

[@simontemplarGB]

Along with Borat.

[@carltontweedle5724]

@@simontemplarGB You are forget equality also TRUSS.

[@maalikserebryakov]

@@carltontweedle5724send her into the Kremlin with her mini budget nobody has understood till this day 😂

[@tytzup5397]

He's not tall enough for active service.

[@shuelahmed9392]

Nutsak😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@brandycat8513]

Or National Unpaid service. "Investing in young people£ " code for exploiting young people.

[@thelastsaxtop]

I don't think most of the journalists covering this are really listening to who they're interviewing. It's not mandatory military service for everyone, there is a choice of military or civil service. However, forcing people to work without pay for any reason is pretty sketchy.

[@Myndir]

As if we don't have enough civil servants on the taxpayer's payroll!

[@albertbrammer9263]

Those young people saying it is a good idea should do it themselves. They would not say it if they had to do it.

[@TOOTHLESS666]

They don't know what there talking about lol 😆

[@riffraff9506]

I bet they've lost several million parents today

[@T.E.S.S.]

alright calm down

[@beckismith5649]

And grandparents ! Put him on the frontline best place for him

[@siranom5486]

damn right

[@sharonmarienicholson7832]

10000% the bellend can do one....he's not getting his hands on my son. I'll vote Labour first!!

[@ianworley8169]

They'd lost this grandfather since before Brexit. Now they've just lost the plot.

[@scottpauley4363]

Just disgusting. The youth of this country have been forgotten about my this horrible government. No chance of saving or a proper future and now the government want to tell them to join up to. Its pathetic. Luckily its just another nail in the tory coffin

[@nemesis4900]

Tbh he needs to go ! but has to be b4 there 18 years old.. 13 and up i would say sending kids to army training and Life is not bad idea! Especially ones hanging around with nothing to do and getting into trouble given them discipline and skills to doctors and other stuff just the time but is suspect with Ukraine

[@badgerbryan]

Growing up in London, I remember a comedy show called "Get Some In," which was about reluctant National Service recruits causing havoc in their barracks. This is another ill-thought-out plan by the Conservatives to return to the past and not consider young people's futures.

[@julianshepherd2038]

Imagine grafting all week on a building site and having to do this cobblers at the weekend.

[@markeh1971]

Hi, better than the "lucky" ones who get armed service and first off when SHTF! Take care M.

[@nicka3697]

It's just so lucky that 18 year olds never take on shift work that includes weekends.

[@kdog4587]

​@@nicka3697sorry but I worked weekends from 16 and throughout uni, what planet you on?

[@MrFoffof]

@@kdog4587 though English people would be able to spot the obvious sarcasm but apparently not

[@randomguyonline6237]

Clearly not this one ​@@kdog4587

[@JugglinJellyTake01]

Those who remembered National Service were dying in hospitals and care homes while the Tories partied during lockdown. It is amazing how the Tories are able to disregard retired people while also belittling young people.

[@Naturalmedicineprescription]

^ what this un said .. NB take note !!

[@tabularasa7775]

I remember millions sat at home partying on 80% wages , don't forgot that

[@user-sf5li1ob1z]

every right wing do these

[@Naturalmedicineprescription]

@@tabularasa7775 defo MORE important than the latest cull of humans yeah .. strange creature that you are.. and its forgEt

[@bwilliamson3887]

Furlough, they paid yiur wages.

[@user-il1nj7gu1c]

Don’t comply with any government !

[@BeardedSte]

If you want to have an impact on young people, invest in a youth service, not national service.

[@rodolphodecastrorodrigues7457]

This old elites and MPs are living in bubbles, not the youngsters. That is unbelievable.

[@user-sf5li1ob1z]

they live in their mansion but dont know that the public cant afford the electricity and gas bills, waiting for several months in NHS

[@ahmedsalah5364]

The tories have lost the plot and running around like headless chickens so desperate……

[@lervish1966]

National Service for Ahmed

[@Brian-xb6sc]

Agree with you totally, but they lost the plot year's ago.!! A party of complete dunderheads led by the 'Dunderhead of the decade.!! 😂

[@NeoFreshair]

Military industrial complex need British taxpayers money, and Tories need a lie to steal taxpayers money and both Labour and Tories start vvars to help the military industrial complex ......

[@Neil-qo4nv]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Rishi you such a funnyf@#ker

[@NefetariMoonRay]

IF YOU DONT PREPARE TO PREVENT SOMEBODY ELSE ATTACKING YOU, THEN THATS THE BAD IDEA. NOBODY SHOULD SIT AND DO FOOOKING NOTHING

[@pod10]

So basically if you're rich you can just pay the fine and get out of it.

[@BRITdave-so1sl]

It doesn't matter who gets in... The country will still be fucked

[@Davey441]

It's always been the same Dave. They all p*ss in the same toilet.

[@sayafuddin7656]

Sounds like a £2.5B backhander to Tory peer owned companies

[@user-gv5pg4ps3j]

Yep!!! ANOTHER TORY MATES SCAM

[@user-sf5li1ob1z]

dont be so pro. also where they will go when they are retired? corp that they have given $?

[@willkriel-hartley1156]

“Hi Rishi, this is Michelle from Mone Military Uniforms…”

[@cdeford2]

Who are they appealing to? Certainly not Tory or Reform voters. No-one wants this, which just shows how out of touch Sunak is.

[@Richievaillant]

Possibly the older generation who see the younger as good for nothing. Always go for the older votes, they will be there on polling night.

[@kharn-the-betrayer]

​@@Richievaillant1:59 considering the youngest person who did NS is 79 now, since it ended in 1960 with the last discharged in 1963. So the people who are clamouring for it.....NEVER DID IT, forking hypocrites

[@Bansell262]

I think a lot of right wingers want this. Clumps of them on Facebook. They take it as given, kids should be conscripted. It’s so dumb, and it’s fascist. People that want that are not thinking it through. But people that want that want conscription. Not this wishy washy national service, so no, you’re right, they won’t want this.

[@nirodaniroda1870]

Like we really needed and extra reason to detest the unelected jester

[@user-ol6rd7pl5t]

Training to be cannon fodder was never on my list of " Things I want to do when I leave school ".

[@HuplesCat]

It was on mine until I hit 16 and realized what bs nationalism is. Never, ever murder other humans for the benefit of the elite

[@danielcraig4974]

Come on, for the Tories

[@windwalker583]

Russia just threatened to attack UK and suddenly national service...not rocket science to work out why ns just popped up out of the blue

[@iaf010]

Im sure you'll have a lot of Fun in Ukraine Bravely defending Democracy! Just think of all the songs and stories that will be born from a generation thats lived through the trenches!

[@cescosa4404]

@@danielcraig4974hell yeah and all of the tangible good they have done for the country which I can most certainly list examples of

[@carlsimon666]

The Tories have lost the plot. No young person is gonna vote for them now.

[@user-ol6rd7pl5t]

I can think of a thousand other reasons too.

[@Christopher_T_Paul]

This move won't just alienate the youth, any parent who has children under the age of 21 would be mad to vote for them when ultimately it could lead to their son or daughter heading to the frontline. David Cameron is doing his hardest to start another war, so perhaps this is why Rishi is planning on conscription?

[@aaddy5157]

No parent want their sons sent to Ukraine.

[@ciaranwalsh9963]

The high cost of rent means the only place one could live is a bubble or cardboard box.

[@shamanahaboolist]

I will enjoy the whole country showing Sunak exactly where he can put his conscription. I hope he has something to bite down on.

[@heifetz14]

A nice big pillow from Harrods,full of his wife,s cash.

[@DW_69]

Is there anything worth fighting/dying for in this country these days? It can barely take care of its own people and itself during peacetime

[@johnny71c]

Best to send all of these forigners first like the French do and if they go awol they will never get back into this country. These people want to be here so much then let the fight for it..

[@Ad-lk3ow]

To clarify - when they say “think tank” they mean “room with a few people in”

[@edwardsnowdenofficial]

Will the hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants that flood into the UK be enrolled into this National Service Plan also?

[@67Doofus]

That's the whole idea behind it, join or eff off.

[@Camille_Anderson]

​@BuildersM8why shouldn't they?

[@adamturner3797]

I'll never bleed for the UK, let alone be apart of this even if they somehow make it through.

[@L-iv6lx]

honestly i fancy filing the emigration paperwork to Canada or Ireland at this point, still having trouble deciding which though.

[@dealbreakerc]

​@@L-iv6lxhahaha I love it when people seem to think moving to another country is just a matter of filling in some paperwork... smh

[@johnowen1677]

Traitor!

[@adamturner3797]

@@johnowen1677 if I'm a traitor than so is most of the population due to the fact that the consensus shows that many people won't even go to war for the UK or even join any form of national service.

[@L-iv6lx]

@@dealbreakerc it starts with filling in some paperwork, then waiting 18 months, then getting a card, then sitting around for about 3 years until you can actually get citizenship. or in canada you just instantly get citizenship because the commonwealth is actually ace. also it was sarcasm, im not actually going to be sending off 500 thousand pounds to dublin, mostly because i don't have that money, also because Britain is tenth-rate, but atleast we're not the USA.

[@timsimmons5953]

Tories live in a bubble. A bubble of excrement. What happened to all the apprenticeship promised to young people by this lot of rot.

[@daverawlinson1594]

In fairness, I also sometimes get excited.

[@MarkXHolland]

So that's what the stench is...

[@Zopicloned]

They cut the funding for apprenticeship schemes

[@heywhotsgoinon8286]

What a w⚓️

[@ElliotMitchell-hb8zr]

My brother is about to turn 18 and plans on training on weekends for his future career. How's he supposed to do that if the Tories make him into a slave! Channel 4 ask under 25s what they think of this since they are the ones being pushed into slavery! The abandonment of a person's right to determine their own careers is disgusting

[@markeh1971]

Don't worry not going to happen this way. M.

[@user-gv5pg4ps3j]

I Fully Agree!!! Please Keep Voicing Up!! I'm sure loads of people feel this way!! I feel awful for the younger generations and I'm a tail end Millennial. I feel like things are sliding wildly for younger people and it's a very very abusive system.

[@raymondhill8973]

best career choice i ever made the army , kept me out of jail..

[@ColaSpandex]

​​@@raymondhill8973 because all teenagers will end up in jail unless you take away that choice?

[@Naturalmedicineprescription]

@@user-gv5pg4ps3j since gen X all this BS has been going on ffs , YOP & YTS £28 / 40 hour week .. get used to it coz all the sheople keep allowing it to happen

[@ukguy]

Yeah i dont think so Sunak, good riddance to you and your awful party.

[@lolazal1]

Sadly, Kier's probably worse.

[@p165711]

National Service but not for the privileged sons and daughters of the wealthy or for those of celebrities. You just know anything they bring in will be watered down and aimed at the less well off and working classes.

[@PLuMUK54]

For some people, the old National Service was the making of them. My own father experienced life outside his abusive family, for example. For most, though, it was, according to my dad, a waste of time. This scheme does not sound any better. For a start, how can they say "volunteering" if there will be sanctions for those who don't comply? A more accurate term is "forced labour". Then I would like to know where many 18 year olds would get the time from to do this work. Many attend university, and have to work at weekends to keep their heads above water because politicians do not value education enough. Having worked with volunteers, I know how much additional work they create. They can only be given the most basic of tasks, otherwise other people have to stop their own work to supervise. It made me laugh when Cleverly said that young people live in a bubble. Politicians do that all the time. They may run a constituency surgery to allow people to speak to them, but from the experience of people that I know, they show little interest and quickly palm the constituent off onto a junior member of the team. The average 18 year old probably knows more about the real world that the average politician. I can't imagine that the army is best pleased at the thought of large numbers (was it 30,000?) of squaddies turning up untrained and unprepared. Had they wanted to join the army they would have done so. The military are already underfunded, yet Sunak wants to give them additional responsibilities. A half-baked plan which is way too expensive and appears to have more problems than positives. Some young people will benefit, but the majority will not.

[@samueldorrington8990]

Edit: added sources Let's be real here. There are just over 715,000 18 year olds in the UK. In this scheme, according to Welsh Secretary David TC Davies, there would be 30,000, 12 month, placements in the armed forces. This is nothing more than a way of getting 675,000 people to provide free work to support sectors they refuse to fund properly. BBC Wales ONS

[@hazelmoore439]

It would be interesting to learn what the exception will be.

[@randomlygeneratedname7171]

slave labour!! GET HIM OUT!

[@ibrstellar1080]

Don't worry Liebour will keep you well fed with CBDC and the Digital ID'S will help you enroll to fight for Iranian Democracy and liberate the oil for the Sabbatean bankers

[@randomlygeneratedname7171]

@@ibrstellar1080 The Woman are far gone and the food expensive and in short supply globally. I am not an expert but usually looking at correlation the current elite are going to get brutally axed or a lot of global conquest heading their direction if the bread and circus was too good (ding ding 🛎️ Russia coming for the EU)

[@randomlygeneratedname7171]

@@ibrstellar1080 Well my reply got deleted. Russia is gonna come for the EU/NATO before CBDC Edit: to ⚔️ the eIite

[@BigMan-cp4pi]

@@ibrstellar1080 there is literally a video of rishi sunak saying cbdc is a great thing. Wake up

[@ibrstellar1080]

@@BigMan-cp4pi It benefits his banking budies and the Technocratic slavery they have planned.

[@anythingeverything7215]

Sunak can go himself and send his own kids

[@riyadhussain3384]

He’s definitely trying to get people not to vote for him

[@mahendramanek]

Let Sunak do national service wearing Khakhi shorts

[@timsmith5754]

Did you say khaki😂

[@DocuNationYT]

this guy wants to lose 💀

[@humbletraveler2004]

He made his millions, maybe billions. He’s got a green card, he will go and live a lavish lifestyle, but he left all the mess to British people

[@joelsmith9311]

I think there was a “Yes Prime Minister” episode in 1988 that dealt with this issue beautifully. 😂

[@michelleburton8585]

Didn’t raise my boys to be cannon fodder!

[@danielcraig4974]

Come on, for brexshit freedoms and Boris Johnson

[@johnowen1677]

Neither did mother's during WW 1&2. By the way, we dont use cannons any more.

[@michelleburton8585]

And those wars were orchestrated too!

[@johnny71c]

Well if Russia attacks who will fight for your freedoms?????

[@AZATHOTH_Z]

Cowards 😂

[@CravingBeer]

"Mandatory volunteering" Just think about that.

[@jameslongstaff2762]

I'm so done with old people looking down on us younger people like we're lazy. If your housing was a "good investment" that means housing is now more expensive for the next generation 🙄

[@user-ol6rd7pl5t]

Desperate times require Desperate measures & my God are they desperate.

[@adrianfielding4678]

Nationalise our water and trains, not the youth!

[@afleming1118]

I can’t imagine what value this has in a 21st century military… it just sounds like a dumb idea designed to appeal to the conservatives who might vote reform

[@jamyphill]

Ill prob vote reform

[@hectorcot597]

​@jamyphill I will vote reform, too, even though I know they won't win. I can't abide the thought of either Labour or the Tories

[@AJ_Cricket_Fish]

​@@hectorcot597 You think the solution to the mess created by years of right wing policy is to swing further to the right? Genius! Screw the ladder boys, what we need to get out of this hole is a bigger spade

[@Jonny-uu7wf]

​@@jamyphillhello dumb conservative

[@psychonaut689]

I think you've hit the nail on the head there. The Tories are imploding. A fox in a trap chewing its own leg off.

[@sylvestertettehkorle5142]

I had no plans of voting but seeing this i guess i need to kick someone out. #kickhimout

[@ryp6627]

Always easy for people who are already over the age of national service to suggest it

[@rogernewman5903]

Shoving our kids off to fight hardened soldiers in Ukraine for their phoney war. Send all MPs kids first.

[@abritishrussophile]

Only Workers Party are opposing this. Remember that in the July election.

[@bernadettemartin8812]

Looking for fodder for their wars!

[@michaelprobert4014]

​@@abritishrussophileOnly the workers party are supporting Russia .

[@michaelprobert4014]

No, there really is a war in Ukraine. Britain and the other NATO countries are keeping out of it. It is 1938 again and Ukraine and support to it has extended 1938 from becoming 1939

[@kharn-the-betrayer]

They've got a dubious diagnosis of bone spurs so are exempt......

[@julianshepherd2038]

Compulsory Community Service for non-criminals It's a free labour scheme.

[@jackdubz4247]

A free labour scheme goes by another name: Slavery.

[@kharn-the-betrayer]

Exactly, cut services to the bone through austerity, then use forced labour to plug the gaps. The pertinent question is "where is the money?" Always follow the money

[@ianrogerburton1670]

They say that they want to bring people together and yet they DIVIDE AND RULE.

[@PhilosophyRob89]

I won't be conscripted as when I was younger I applied for the British army, they said No because of my mental health. Can't have it both ways now!

[@Crow_Friend]

Strange little man.

[@BiggusDiggusable]

Seb Payne is an absolute pillock

[@nickd.6365]

He's like a weird lovechild of Gove.... Except that probably wouldn't be possible due to Govey's predilection.

[@kerryfry1857]

Send him to the Russian front 👍

[@museum1401]

This nonsense would cost MORE than the pay rise for doctors that the Tories said was "simply unaffordable". Get them out.

[@user-re2bw2wm4l]

I joined the Army and ended up serving 22 years not because I had to but because wanted to and that is why our Armed Forces are respected all over the world their professionalism

[@jadebel7006]

They're not lol

[@user-ol6rd7pl5t]

Another compelling reason not to vote Tory. I'm being to think they don't want to win the election.

[@monipenny408]

LOL I am even more amazed that people will actually go voting!!! What a waste of time!

[@yourmum5576]

I think so, all the recent scandals coming out and pay outs almost like they are trying to empty the money pot…

[@DMC585]

Said every lazy person who just wants a government that gives out incentives not to work and benefits for votes.

[@Xyzterz]

implying such a policy wont be enforced and expanded upon by Blairite red party, they're all the same, and it wont be their kids thrown to the meat grinder of these corporate interest wars.

[@theminisimmer]

Sunak is doing it on purpose so he can go on holiday

[@ShoJ369]

I live in Belfast in the six counties that the UK insist is still part of the UK. My Grandchildren will NOT be any part of the UK's national service. Apart from that, surely the people in the UK can see ex-service men and women have been so poorly treated, with many left homeless, including those with missing limbs.

[@obscurum6]

And how they treat those kids before they reach 18. Child poverty in the UK is at over 30%, and as high as 72% in some areas. Over HALF OF THE CHILDREN IN THE UK ARE STARVING AND LIVE OFF FOOD BANKS. Then the government wants those same children, they have forced to starve and live in poverty, to get conscripted into forced labour for two years as soon as they reach adulthood. Geezus, the young should not stand for that, neither should anyone. The elites STARVE OUR KIDS, FREEZE THEM IN THE WINTER DUE TO FUEL PRICES then they decide they OWN THEM AS CHATTEL FOR 'SERVICE TO THE CROWN'.

[@mistymoon8566]

A policy for social integration coming from a prime minister who said he didn't have any working class friends 💀💀

[@user-oc7jh3hw6e]

can i please have public transport back so my friends and i can go and volunteer at our local charities without being told by the govt we're the problem

[@Lord-Dexa]

The fact that the policy has been announced before the Royal Commission has even been established, let alone delivered its report, shows just how desperate and disorganised the Tories are - Thank God they’ll be gone in 38 days.

[@Christian-we6kz]

So they just lost the vote of parents and the youth… 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@feenix1033]

I'd add this to the list of reasons not to vote for him but I ran out of room ages ago.

[@vaclavmiller8032]

Seb Payne is insufferable

[@Gramsci]

He’s desperate to be a Tory MP, it’s kind of pathetic.

[@squelch079]

Tell him and the rest of the bellends they can join the Ukrainian frontline immediately

[@50_Pence]

Can you imagine Sunak on the frontline in a Ukrainian bunker in winter. 😂

[@ModiRising]

Did he just think, "Well, I've fucked up this much - I might as well guarantee we're never voted in again"??

[@daleharlow6006]

Why don't they use the money to increase army pay and opertunitues in the services to get more full time quality staff.

[@jona826]

Someone needs to tell Rishi that when you're in a hole, stop digging!

[@redlister2934]

"You can't dig up stupid!" Someone needs to tell robot Sunak that.

[@turns2ashes]

lol wtf, is he trying to hammer the nails into his own coffin?

[@Mayaxxxxxx]

Please don’t forget Starmer…he’s a Blair copycat and also a WEF follower just like Sunak.

[@factsbyflores]

I'm confused. The UK wants to address "isolation " among youth by forcing them to volunteer 25 days a year? How about the Tories leave their isolated pads and lofts where they hold tax payer parties and get out to see the misery of their constituents.