Rivian Targets Tesla's BEST Feature 👀

[@MikeRadioNY]

I would be happy with Level 3. No eyes on road but being there to take over is the ultimate for me.

[@Shychiprivian]

Rivian just gets better every day 😊😊

[@Ruhan885]

@Shychiprivian is an amazing vehicle. Plan on getting one this year is they meet their stated plans

[@BryanA3115]

Love Rivian! Can't wait to get my R2 next year!

[@Cholo1280]

Took a 2000 mile round trip in my HW4 model 3 and it drove me 99% of the time. It became a selling point for me after that trip.

[@Ruhan885]

Highway miles are cake

[@jasonberger3227]

I’ve done 1400 mile road trips. My car is HW3 and did 99.8% of the drive. This included highways and surface streets. I literally only had to take over at the last 0.1 mile, and basically just park the car at the charger or my destination. The beauty is, after driving for 700 miles (9+ hours), I was not exhausted when I got to my destination.

[@rmkep]

Same here with my new AI4 Model Y. No wheel nag nor the odd behaviour of my old HW3 Model X. Rivian is years behind Tesla by any ADAS/Navigation software measurements. Add in Supercharging and it's no contest. I have an R2 reservation but unless Rivian can make a vehicle with all the needed features for a profit, they can't be taken seriously.

[@Cholo1280]

@@jasonberger3227 I felt the same way with one leg of my trip being roughly 12+ hours. I was good to go! It’s especially impressed me when I drove through bigger cities (I’m from a smaller town) and it adapted to the how the locals drive there.

[@jasonberger3227]

@@rmkep I would love for my next car to be a Rivian R3X. If they can advance the self driving capability, I will seriously consider switching, but FSD is a critical feature for me. I love the looks of the Rivian, and hope they can succeed.

[@OffgridApartment]

What if they focused on breaking even on their vehicles?

[@iCozzh]

Dont be logical.

[@jamespaul2587]

That will only come with high volume, from their smaller vehicles in the works.

[@AVerySmallTinyMinisculeH-bc1lv]

Yea. Why did they pull all their engineers to work on software? They should create different divisions to improve their lineup instead of one team devoted entirely to self driving.

[@thelastquincy1457]

That's what I'm saying. Just be a profitable car company first.

[@B4R0N.]

That's coming.

[@johnbullers8647]

I would love to see the talented people at Tesla jump ship and go to Rivian, Telo, Aptera, Lucid, and others. What made Tesla great were all the hard working creative engineers.

[@PabloMontoya-qk8lf]

They do, there was a whole lawsuit where lucid was buying off Tesla engineers, but love to see all these companies compete to make the best evs.

[@ocampbell1954]

Rivian will be bankrupt soon. No one with common sense is leaving a profitable company where you're given stocks to go work for a company losing 40k every car they sell.

[@nguyep4]

The company culture is important to drive talent. Talents are wasted if the company they work doesn't have a structure to survive. You don't seem to understand what makes Tesla the best out there. Top engineers' choice to work for either in SpaceX or Tesla.

[@VMYeahVN]

I'm more inclined to take R.J. at his word cause it seems at least plausible and R.J. seems to have a good track record of not announcing stuff like that without having some fairly convincing reasoning. I'd imagine he's consulted with the engineers and people internally and they all likely are on the same page about what time frames are realistic compared to how Elon 70% of the time just says something that pops into his head on stage at an event or on Twitter and the engineers find out they have to force it to happen the same time we're all hearing about it.

[@bobbyvee8941]

I'm replacing my Tesla Model S in early 2026. Would have automatically chosen another Model S, but, my feelings about Tesla have begun to change a bit. My first focus was on Lucid until I discovered they are now 60% owned by Saudi Arabia. Sorry Lucid, but that's just a deal breaker for me. My daughter owns a Rivian R1S, and loves it. Rivian's Customer Service FAR EXCEEDS Tesla's lackluster service. I do wish Rivian offered a luxury sedan, but I can live with the new R1S, especially if they accomplish a full self driving feature!

[@ed8018]

Similar situation for me. I love my early model 3 but I'm waiting for the R2 in 2026 to replace it. Plus Rivian just opened a new service center in my city so even better.

[@victic2277]

Good luck with that.

[@kenhiett5266]

Enjoy your inferior vehicle and what will undoubtedly be an inferior driving system. Some people are highly susceptible to propaganda, and they will no longer be driving Teslas.

[@kenhiett5266]

Enjoy your inferior vehicle and what will undoubtedly be an inferior driving system. Some ppl are highly susceptible to fictional narratives masquerading as fact, and they will no longer be driving Teslas.

[@kenhiett5266]

Some ppl are highly susceptible to fictional narratives masquerading as fact, and they will no longer be driving Teslas.

[@Gustavo-d7l]

when is the podcast coming bacK

[@shanefiddle]

thumbs up for Rivian!

[@jacobB1290H]

It’s probably going to be something similar to teslas navigate on autopilot introduced in 2018. It doesn’t require unfathomable amounts of compute and data to develop But the main drawback is it usually requires HD mapping

[@rockcitybwoy9042]

I think what most people forget are a few things. - 1st off Tesla did not just make a decision ditch the expensive sensors just because. It was to use hardware that could be mass produced in a vehicle. They also have a software stack and vertical integration that combines it into FSD. This is the Tesla advantage and it will take a lot to over come this. Too often people think this can be easily achieved. In an electric vehicle, power usage needs to be efficient so an efficient way to process data. The problem that gets over looked is the cost of all the hardware for a mass market vehicles. Tesla decided to reduce these cost to camera based hardware and onboard compute.

[@jakeacim]

Cannot wait for the R3X!

[@Carlberger]

When I placed my reservation in 2020! They had talked about a grandparent mode or something like that which was FSD without a driver to go pick someone up. I believe I read that in early 2019. By the way, I am still holding a reservation because they still have not offered what I originally wanted: quad max pack. Thank you for the update!

[@td4940]

After the R2/R3/R3X announcement, I held off replacing my civic for M3 and reserved the R2. I can’t wait.

[@flexluthor1]

Hey Drew do you plan on doing more Live videos again in the near future? I'd love to know what you think about production timeline predictions comparing Telo and Rivian R3.

[@dmob10]

I have a model 3 LR with no FSD. I have been interested in the R2 as a family car. Prior to the Model Y refresh I wasn’t interested in a larger model 3. With the opening of the Tesla network it allow more folks to go to rivian and other brands.

[@Abebe345]

Limited to highway means any straight road or geofenced to certain stretches?

[@RealElectech]

Geofenced to divided premapped highways

[@Abebe345]

@ Assume FSD will be licensing by then.

[@darwinskeeper421]

I may be a grumpy old man but I really don't understand the appeal of full self driving. Part of the reason that I'm into cars is that I love driving.

[@diamond_h0us]

42,000 people in the US alone die every year in auto accidents. Many of those being children. More than 80% of all auto accidents are caused by human error. Most people don’t drive for fun, they drive to get somewhere…to buy groceries or go to work or go on vacation. Here’s a prediction. Seatbelts were made mandatory despite huge negative backlash from the public. The same will happen for autonomous driving. Manual driving will be seen as barbaric and old fashioned in the future. Want to have fun driving? Look at horse owners to see where that’s headed in the future. You’ll take your old car (cars will no longer have steering wheels) to the track.

[@darwinskeeper421]

@@diamond_h0us I hope I'll be dead before that happens.

[@jokulhaups309]

Imagine you take the word Full self driving away. You tell someone they have to pay you to gather data for yourself so you can release it to other people and charge a premium for it. People would tell you to go kick rocks. All the liability is on the Guinea pigs and pay for the privilege of someone else to make money off of

[@triadmad]

I've had three month long free trials of FSD offered to me so far, and I've let all three expire without activating them. I've used the autosteer feature while I was on the interstate a hand full of times, but even that makes me uncomfortable. I'll be trading in for an R2 or R3, and I'm not likely to use their self driving system either. I drove nothing but manual transmission cars for over 40 years, so I'm used to being in control of the car.

[@rustyshackle917]

​@@triadmad even if you are the best driver in the world, you are sharing the road with people who are impaired by drugs and alcohol. You are sharing the road with new and old drivers. You are sharing the road with unsafe vehicles. You are sharing the road with folks constantly looking at their cell phones. Need I go on? Level 5 FSD cannot come soon enough. If you want to drive for the sake of driving, take it to a race track.

[@ericgregori]

Highway driving is easy. FSD is level 3 capable (not certified) now. Actual Smart Summon does drive (in parking lots) without anyone in the car.

[@vlad_417]

Tesla HW3 has 2 chips, and each chip has 2 neural accelerators. A Tesla HW3 neural accelerator has a power of 36 TOPS. As it’s known, recent Tesla updates to the FSD stopped using the second chip as a backup and instead started utilizing it for calculations as well. This results in 36x2x2=144 TOPS. Tesla HW4 also has 2 chips, but with 3 neural accelerators on each chip. The estimated power of each accelerator is 50 TOPS. This gives 50x3x2=300 TOPS. Meanwhile, Chinese cars are already equipped with Nvidia Drive AGX Orin chips (400 TOPS) and Drive Thor chips (1000 TOPS).

[@MoreOnEVs]

Love Rivian and wish them well. They should be able to catch most of the way up to Tesla with synthetic data from nvidia, the big unknown is exactly how important real world data will be. If it is important, it will take a looooong time to get enough data

[@danwolf9518]

The non-evil version of Elon seems like it could capture the marketshare of early believers who have since been shopping for bumper stickers that say 'I bought this car before the CEO was an oligarch"

[@mattcosta7244]

Your an idiot Elon is creating reusable rockets and humanoid robots this guy from Rivian is no version of Elon.

[@victic2277]

😂 hahaha

[@kenhiett5266]

Which version is evil? Please be specific.

[@victic2277]

@kenhiett5266 yeah, how does a guy who buy Twitter to free us from the mainstream media be Evil?

[@AverageJoe928]

​@@kenhiett5266pretty sure it's the one making Nazi salutes and supporting the extremely far right AfD in Germany.

[@pingnick]

I mean Mercedes supposedly even raising speed when jurisdictionally possible for level 3 so unless I missed something they’re playing catch-up to Benzes!?

[@RivMike205]

The complexity overloads my aged brain.

[@omarwilson807]

Soooo since cybertruck’s vault doesn’t have climate control (for my dogs)…..the only thing keeping me from going to Rivian is full self driving so you’re right.

[@donn5188]

I love Rivian, but the feature they really need to be working on is profitability.

[@alexhaisting]

TOPS stands for Trillions of Operations Per Second

[@tLWildThing]

The reason why you don't hear RJ mentioning level 4 is because they don't have the data and he knows it's impossible

[@CplHicks31415]

Would like the option on R2 of not paying for "hands free" please. ADAS is fine, more than that leads to "edge case" issues...

[@ericgregori]

Nvidia (NVDA) CEO Jensen Huang believes Tesla’s (TSLA) full self-driving (FSD) system is the most advanced system out right now. It also just so happens that Tesla’s FSD is powered by Nvidia's chips. “Tesla is far ahead in self-driving cars,” Huang said in an exclusive interview with Yahoo Finance. "One of the things that's really revolutionary about version 12 of Tesla's full self-driving is that it's an end-to-end generative model," Huang added. "It learns from watching videos - surround video - and it learns about how to drive end-to-end, and using generative AI, predict the path and how to understand and how to steer the car. So the technology is really revolutionary and the work that [Tesla’s] doing is incredible."

[@scoty_does]

I bet more people would license FSD if it actually worked.. ;)

[@IDeadJoeI]

"Being an EV" is not a good selling point anymore. Minds continue to be blown when my Tesla Model 3 drives me and my passenger, though. 🤯

[@MatrixJockey]

Most people have not experienced this to care.

[@jonevansauthor]

I thought this was going to be profitability because that's Tesla's best feature if you really think about it! It's the reason Lucid is struggling and so many others went bust.

[@MrRandomguyTom]

The best feature Tesla has and Rivian should 100% copy in the first place is... PROFITABILITY

[@dylanwhite6539]

I mean yes, hardware 3 does get different software now, but I’m not that convinced that fsd on hw4 is that much better. The cyber truck is a perfect example of that. There’s actually been cases where HW3 Outdoes hw4

[@tribalypredisposed]

Eyes free on some divided highways, there is no chance Rivian is offering eyes free city driving this decade. Even supervised city driving likely only a wonky beta at best by 2028.

[@ob1spyker]

I am so not interested in full autonomous driving. Assisted driving on the highway ok … but I could leave FSD and not even miss it no matter how good it is.

[@asm-6547]

Incredibly weird to hear you call someone none of us know RJ

[@rockcitybwoy9042]

I 🤔 💭 Rivian needs to focus on making a profitable EV first. Competition is always going to benefit consumers. - Yes people love to harp on Elon’s overly aggressive optimism and promises. That is however visionaries behave. It’s always strange that people always think that conventional thinking will produce unexpected and unpredictable outcomes. It’s the catch 22 but such is life. - We live in a society where we have so many talking heads few people actually research and read for themselves and seek understanding. - What I want to see from Rivian is relentless match to profitability on each vehicle and expansion of the recharging infrastructure network. - Give Tesla true competition and we all benefit!!

[@jasonberger3227]

While this would be awesome, it is wishful thinking. Rivian doesn’t even have a functioning hands on system, that works outside of highways.

[@zwmiller11]

Losing a billion dollars a quarter is generally not a good business plan, long term.

[@TypicalBlox]

rivian could easily add a hand frees good level 2 system to all their current vehicles if they integrate openpilot, but their ego wont allow them. I guess aprera will rise to the top since they have some people with brains

[@DanDeGaston]

IS the best feature autopilot, or promising features next year that will never happen that fast? (I am joking, but it is funny Rivian would promise "Next year" the same way Tesla has been doing it for almost a decade.)

[@ryandobson1871]

I just hope this doesn’t turn into a hype cycle. Component semi autonomous cruise control is all I’m really after. The kind that keeps me both away from and becoming a road rager. Driving a HW3 M3 now with 12.5.4.2, and its highway behavior is not hitting the sweet spot for me. Wish they would let me switch back and forth between Autopilot and FSD while driving. Day one R2 reservation holder, and just can’t wait.

[@victic2277]

They are still around.

[@DarrinSmiddy]

Rivian trucks are great BUT financially they can't continue forever if they don't increase delivery numbers and actually need to make real profit.

[@aeromtb2468]

how about actually money on vehicles

[@dylanwhite6539]

You mean Tesla might have FSD competition instead of customers? Sheesh

[@TomasAngelus]

I have to say I used to think that VW should have kept Diess and work together with Tesla. Now that the Musk is off working together with VW is the best idea.

[@aeromtb2468]

vw is in a death spiral, they just arent aware of it.

[@lifehackresale9711]

If the R2/R3 have full self driving when they get released I'd gladly make the switch to Rivian from Tesla. Elon is just getting too toxic for the brand and Rivian seem like they make great vehicles. Maybe I'll dump a few thousand in to their stock and hope it pops off when the more affordable models get released.

[@DanFrederiksen]

I believe that RJ will manage yet another quarter with more than 1bn$ loss

[@rickygonzalez2519]

I like Car CEOs that don't heil nazis.

[@TailosiveEV]

Same

[@jf1890]

@@TailosiveEV, You Shouldn't respond to delusional politics when promoting a KZbin video. I just changed my thumbs up to down. F-off!

[@jf1890]

YOU ARE DELUSIONAL! "My heart goes out to you."

[@ed8018]

Same

[@thelastquincy1457]

He didn't do that tho. Elon is just a really awkward guy. Have u never heard him talk or seen how he moves on stage at one of his events. 😂😂

[@woodswoods7621]

It isnt about compute. Lol. It is about real world data. Good luck

[@zandercerlong9693]

“Really good at execution” but had the truck EV market to themselves for almost 3 years then got outsold by CyberTruck in 4 months. Good at execution but have been a company for 14 years and have NEVER turned a profit, good at execution but dont have a path to profitability with current vehicle line up, good at execution but unless something changes have a 1 way ticket to bankruptcy

[@fuzzjunky]

isn't the self driving stuff the one thing that can sink tesla? oh apart from the ugliest car on the planet, the cybercrock

[@ocampbell1954]

Rivian and Lucid will be bankrupt within 5 years. The Chinese and Tesla will drive down cost through battery cost reduction and scaling.

[@Retired.at.40.Bored.at.50]

Rivian is dreaming. There is not a single company that has a chance of repeating FSD. It's just too difficult and would require years of software tuning. Not to mention the processing power to run the models. Rivian is going to waste investor money for a couple of years and license from Tesla. If it could be done in 2 years, the OEMs and the Apples of the world would have it. Waymo is not an example of FSD. It only works in small areas and for 5 minute rides. Tesla is going to dominate for the next 10+ years. 😅

[@RealElectech]

I own a Tesla with HW3 and a Rivian R1S. Tesla is light years ahead on ADAS. The Rivians is mediocre at best. They might improve it in a few years - say to work on side roads to keep the lane - but theres 0% chance theyll catch even where current HW3 FSD is right now, within the decade.

[@TailosiveEV]

Do you have a gen2 Rivian?

[@RealElectech]

@TailosiveEV I have a Gen 1 R1S but the only substantial difference right now is that mine doesn't have automatic lane changes like the Gen 2 (still initiated by the drivers turn signal). It's fine, but constantly disengages under tunnels, overpasses, no highway exits (even getting onto other highways), does nothing to react to obstacles or cut-ins, it's akin to what my Kia had 5 years ago. Will it improve, absolutely. I think they'll go hands free for Gen 2 this year or next year, that's not a big stretch with eye tracking. Will they be eyes-off autonomous next year? That's as ridiculous as Elon in 2016 saying our Tesla will be completely autonomous in a year. 0% chance lol Highly suggest checking out Comma AI. It'll support Rivian soon - that works fantastically.

[@khanlehman]

They are gonna be either too late to the FSD, or theyll end up leasing the FSD from Tesla. Bc they dont have what Tesla has.

[@zandercerlong9693]

Tesla has already said they wont be licensing to companies that dont have at least 1 million units per year

[@chrismercier311]

@@zandercerlong9693 While that is true, they could change their mind only time will tell. They may decide that 500 thousand will be ok or have pricing that decreases for every 100 thousand units you sell and have price top out at 1 million units sold.

[@illt3ck]

No Apple Carplay, no care. The entertainment system in Rivian is atrocious.

[@Yanquetino]

I dunno. I think RJ is actually talking about features in BlueCruise or SuperCruise -NOT Fool-Self-Driving.

[@MrRubme]

Rivian needs to make a focus on making their first penny of profit.

[@mpathrobot3592]

Rivian launch edition basic driving system is horrible! My Honda Clarity is better driving than Rivian. RJ said the same thing before the Launch Edition was even sold.

[@kenhiett5266]

To be fair, Tesla is absolutely dominating the auto industry, and the current versions of FSD are nothing short of an astonishing leap forward. All this politically motivated hate of Elon is boring.

[@woodswoods7621]

Haha Radar is terrible.

[@sam9657]

Tesla’s best feature is fsd.

[@chrismercier311]

I think fsd will be their best feature in the future but at the moment I would have to say the safety of the vehicle is the best feature. My reasoning behind that is there are a number of people that have walked away from accidents that if in any other car would not be with us today and who were told that from the first responders.

[@victic2277]

Never doubt or bet against elon.

[@woodswoods7621]

Haha. They likely won't be in business. Lol. RJ has no chance

[@nathanwolf5547]

Elon has always been good at opening his fat mouth and promising things that other people have to deliver. It’s a different situation in the case of Rivian. Remember, Elon hasn’t invented a single thing. He’s very good at taking the credit for it though. The best thing that can happen to Tesla is for Elon to sell his stake in it.

[@thelastquincy1457]

Lol u have a better chance at becoming president than for Elon to sell his stake in Tesla. The best u can hope for is he steps down as CEO because he is busy with other things.

[@TheMightyJ95]

Nah…RJ realized there aren’t many repercussions to promising tech before it can actually be done. Tesla has never paid a penalty for crazy claims and missed dates. So RJ said…”hmm, why not..” 😄

[@bw5792]

If you don't like Elon, Rivian is close to solving FSD. lol

[@TDeneroy]

lol

[@darthsirrius]

"Tera operations per second." Rofl, I think you got that aptara Telo merger still too fresh in the mind lol. Tera = *THOUSAND* TOPS = Thousand operations per second. You also might be remembering "Tera FLOPS" Which was "thousand of floating operations per second," which is more What GPU processors do.

[@hkmp5kpdw]

They seem to be really good at losing money… Lose the quad motors and reduce the battery size. Maybe they’ll say in business.