RJ PAYNE STARTED ALL THE ROYCE, LUPE & MICKEY DRAMMA???

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[@tylerhinman8842]

Paynnnnnne is that Raw dope, that loud pack...his barwork is like Art #realrap

[@survivingwatson7430]

facts became a legend under two different names in two eras. mf was ripping shit apart as reignman on them dvds too

[@watata21]

Rj Payne tho... 🔥

[@Bless-cs9ct]

Straight 🔥

[@21street-erfication90]

And Kxng Crooked...ofcourse

[@Stixandstoned420]

Naw, im from Philly, that’s REIGNMAN FOREVER

[@LCREEDTV]

Math had me llh at the dancing around and the bap bap bap 🤣🤣🤣

[@michaelknorr5575]

RJ Payne 🔥🔥🔥

[@queeniwearth]

This whole situation woke up my love for real rap. I drifted away from hip-hop for a while. It was disrespectful to call Lupe out of his name. Period.

[@calebdarling9118]

It's disrespectful to come in raising your voice shirtless at the wrong people. That's acting like a bitch. So royce called him accordingly.

[@JordanClemons]

@@calebdarling9118 and Royce got dealt with

[@calebdarling9118]

@@JordanClemons silence of the lambda is better than all the disses that were sent royces way as far as their pen game goes

[@JordanClemons]

@@calebdarling9118 disses are subjective. Wraith is actually a better diss imo

[@calebdarling9118]

@@JordanClemons better diss, yes. Better pen, not at all. Royce didn't diss anyone. He was trying to showcase they don't have a pen like him. Which he proved. Look at royces last disses. When he wants to diss someone, he's straight forward. He wasn't bringing that energy. And they didn't try to out pen him, they went the personal route.

[@thelight3547]

Ain’t nobody tell Royce to act like his word was the end all be all as far as who the top mc’s is right now. Should’ve just kept quiet cause rj ain’t say one lie. Him and ransom have been doing the best work the last few years, period.

[@wc6081]

Facts… Only insert should’ve been from Benny, Roc Marci, Conway, Boldy James and Gibbs!

[@Dre-fe6mi]

@@wc6081 rigz too ‼️

[@warnaoh]

@@Dre-fe6mi Rome Streetz and Willie The Kid

[@drdread9896]

Lupe absolutely murdered Royce

[@christophercoyle65]

royce out rapped lupe and that was the discussion who was best rapper and royce done a better rap than lupe

[@jamesjasperblack9862]

Murdered him

[@Megahustla313rd]

@@christophercoyle65 See Chris, I was one of those listeners that got caught up in the moment, and thought Lupe too, but seeing someone as skilled, as EM that has a high respect for Royce let's me know that Royce could actually get busy with Lupe, if he really wanted to.

[@astralmindny9055]

I didn't know they was beefing, I gotta listen now.

[@TheStampeder]

It had to be said ☝🏾

[@JordanClemons]

We were being drowned by trap/drill/opp rap, until this and the Dipset vs The Lox Verzuz happened.

[@majorant102]

Can't tell you how many times I went back to the pah pah part watching this full episode 😭😭🤣🤣

[@grammaroffherrockerreacts1122]

I love you Mickey Factz! 🔥🔥🔥🎯🥊🥊

[@tysongarcia3775]

Dayummmm Mickey walking on egg shells and trying not to ruffle Royce feathers AGAIN. lmao!

[@kjnewman7518]

Lol what's Royce going to do get on live and talk shit besides hitting the studio. Claiming he's the best for like a decade and didn't do anything. All bark no bite. Now what I can see happening is rappers are going to test his ass. I really like Royce music but I don't know about you but I lost alot of respect for him. Probably won't even support him anymore. If em would turn pussy over night I would do the same thing

[@sibusisondlovu9699]

I like Math😂😂😂he doesn't lie like the other MC's and he fails to even be biased at anything that's being said on these videos, and that's always 🤣he knows who's not that good and really that good😂as dope as he is

[@giso9774]

You have the best Podcast out Math

[@blacknatnl0rd3rl.l.c.76]

“I’m mad at Boffa dem!!” 😂😂😂😂

[@youngjayo6881]

This whole situation ended up with more Internet gossip than actual raps…Lambda, Wraith, and Lupe’s joint were all good for Hip-Hop…but the bullying and berating Mickey for 2 days straight, Royce crying on live for 6 weeks, and the Slaughterhouse Reunion pump fake…I wish we got more but I’m starting to believe this was all a rollout for Lupe’s new album…

[@ImInYourBrains]

you mean the album he started weeks after things cooled off?

[@Humbrah_Holmes]

You are a fool if you thought it was an album roll out

[@youngjayo6881]

@humbrah Holmes…..responding to a post from 8 months ago is nuts…get you some knee pads next time lil homey

[@virgilhakwins1772]

In retrospect… lmao

[@lucidityfps9638]

If you believe all of it was a rollout or setup then you didn't watch a single IG LIVE. Come on.

[@sonofmann]

3 hours can't be overstated

[@Puntersnatch]

Respect the hustle. Salute. Curious what led to my expert opinion focusing on industry rap rather than battle rap?

[@hezekiyahhuckaby1938]

Lol Math Got me over with my vodka cracking up 🤣

[@killagramcvkobkingofbarz6680]

I tried to tell ppl from the beginning From the interviews gotta give Lux & Mook their flowers for making industry rappers battle rap for a sec Idk what they said to Lupe but he was ready to battle rap when he got on that live wit young guru n dem I SEEN IT 💯

[@shroomsdunks4514]

Math: I don’t bop bop bop 😂😂😂😂 that’s exactly what I said when they brought up Lupes track

[@TheLoveHealingCompany]

Royce got wrecked from this 😂

[@echad6259]

Nobody put those words in Royce's mouth

[@GainBros]

Royce conceded. Mickey or lupe clap back at kid vishis.

[@est.inthe80s]

Wait so Lupe let Lux and mook hype him up and then Lupe called another geown man a word like that on a national platform now i see why Royce was mad makes total sense now

[@fishandfoul2583]

No, Royce called Lupe a bitch

[@hoodcounselor]

Where this full episode

[@243entertainment9]

Ayooo dat Raef joint doe.. whoooooooooo smh

[@erroldixon925]

Call him mickey talk from now on or mickey apologise 😂

[@khaliqking7142]

Anybody know Where can i cop a pair of those taylormade shorts?

[@CreateHistoryTV]

#HOFFAGANG HIT THE LIKES!!!!!!!

[@ballsdeep6548]

RIP Royce 😆

[@aqwilthomas973]

Royce ain’t fucin wit RJ Payne period 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

[@frizzo910g5]

Round 1

[@robgotti4157]

Royce was trying to show skills in rap.. where lupe just dissed him lol .. that’s how I seen it

[@KyriosJabz]

You’re absolutely right. And the discussion started as who is a better rapper. But these niggaz are battle rappers so they see it in a different way. They want war. While Royce was just displaying rap ability.

[@bodiddly3679]

@@KyriosJabz we like real fights not karate lmao.

[@dewanewelch1744]

This is what I been trying to tell people.

[@lancesexton1254]

What episode is this on?

[@TallBaldGenius89]

Whatever episode Mickey Factz was on.

[@chiefkc2002]

Lupe top 3 DOA. 1. NAS 2. Lupe 3. Styles P.

[@charlierose1708]

🤦‍♂️ that's your opinion def not facts.

[@chiefkc2002]

@@charlierose1708 of course. Taste in music is always opinion based.

[@calebdarling9118]

No kxng crooked? Mannnnn

[@d.balbas6952]

Haha..the only like he got was from himself.

[@chiefkc2002]

@@d.balbas6952 false assumption. I will like my own and make it 2

[@thomashasson2525]

I heard all that was for hype

[@frizzo910g5]

Royce is trying to market everything, he's a business man y'all on his time ⏲

[@jayteller7225]

Lupe and eminem are my goats

[@jameleason6124]

Luke ain't seeing Montana 300 tho that is 🔥

[@MistaWordz]

RJ would body all them lyrically too.

[@TennesseeJoshua]

🖊️🔥 it’s PAYNE!!

[@Freetown2006]

Not Lupe

[@MistaWordz]

@@Freetown2006 Definitely Lupe. Rappers like him and Kendrick are ok, but they overhyped like a mf. I never saw anything special about either of them.

[@BoxingTalksWitBishop]

You out your fucking mind

[@benmorall7664]

Facts

[@SHAFTMOSLEY]

Mickey still throwing jabs at royce smh . He will be apologizing in 4..3..2..

[@youngjayo6881]

This is old footage

[@SHAFTMOSLEY]

@@youngjayo6881 it better be old to royce

[@savageshawn10]

Let me be real for most of yall that didn't watch the videos until they heated up...Ransom was wild disrespectful to Mickey. Idk if Mickey heard it r not. This was like a day or 2 after Ransom released his "Heavy Is The Head" album. There was a song on it called "All The Kings Men" ft. J Arrr and Mickey. Mickey went on a tirade and overtook both of them clearly on that song. After Mickey responded to Royce with Wraith, he had a live with Ransom asking does he think Royce should respond. Ransom says, "Don't respond to 'that guy'." Which I get ot...but it's a double edged sword. The meaning he used it in was Mickey's legacy and work doesn't measure up to Royce's and that Royce would be giving Mickey a lot of exposure. The other meaning was that Mickey wasn't worthy, even tho he was CHECKING BOXES ✅️✅️✅️. This was also after Mickey bodied Ran on his own shit.

[@dloftan5539]

Mickey is clearly afraid of Royce not lyrically but in real life that’s why choose his words and give off this weird energy he should have never apologized. Royce is too emotional for battle rap he should stop speaking on other rappers at this point from now on

[@digfitness7598]

I agree 1,000%. Royce is not built for that sage. He should stick to making Albums.

[@youngjayo6881]

I don’t think he’s afraid of Royce…he’s just a passive dude who isn’t built for confrontation…that’s why he let two grown men bully him on a public platform..he’s all about rapping and nothing else…although as a man he needs to defend himself…that’s why Joe, Royce, Shyheim etc were ok talking to him like a stepson…because they know the type of personality he has

[@suli5109]

He's not afraid he's just smart enough to know some ppl will go too far if they don't get their way. Mickey is calculated.

[@digfitness7598]

@@suli5109 Excellent foresight. Royce is a master wordsmith but he still lacks emotional control Or it could all be an act. Who knows.

[@digfitness7598]

@@youngjayo6881 I see your point. As an adult you shouldn't let people talk to you any kind of way But sometimes being passive is better Vs allowing an emotional unstable person pull you into Unnecessary bullshit. Plus Micky diss was better what Royce track. I believe Royce wasn't expecting this outcome when he was getting pumped to battle anybody who stepped up. In my opinion Lupe and Mickey outshines Royce and now he has gone Radio silent. Royce doesn't seem like the kind of man who wants to get hit back when he throws the 1st punch. I was looking forward to an entertaining back an further between all 3 BUT Royce began to take it overboard. No point in battling a guy who gets so worked up after you decided to switch from Defense to Offense.

[@anonymouslakernerd7214]

Bruh. Please. If you are gonna have those people in the back participating in a conversation that is meant for viewers to hear, PUT A MICROPHONE OVER THERE!!!!

[@hezekiyahhuckaby1938]

Royce is dope and has changed how I view Lyrics but he seems like he hits below the belt with just a verbal sparring session...Me and him would definitely fight yo.....Calling him a BITCH like that was really wack ...and then not really back it up?? smh ok Royce

[@marcus9334]

Joey badass is better than both fasho

[@locklife4336]

Lol why we still talking about this? It’s dead. Neither Lupe, Royce nor RJ is even on that type of time now.💯

[@suli5109]

Video is old he's releasing smaller clips of a longer video

[@locklife4336]

@@suli5109 oh ok, I’m like damn lol

[@rowkivinson9925]

Royce killed Lupe y'all buggin lol

[@dewanewelch1744]

In terms of wrapping ability he really did

[@dxavier3787]

ROYCE STILL AINT RESPONDED.

[@Wesley_Hawkins]

If y’all watch all the lives from the beginning… Royce was always talking about skills! People being on different levels, checking boxes. He never said anything about dissing each other… y’all keep giving Mickey passes! Lupe and Mickey jumped that man on records and both were disrespectful… Royce been said this not the energy he wanted.. Royce wanted everybody to showcase their skills. maybe y’all need to research Royce real life, dude really bout that.

[@Moiraiway]

" Royce was always talking about skills! People being on different levels, checking boxes." apparently you didnt watch the lives because thats what Lupe was talking about trying to get people to go to EOW. So Royce was contradicting himself then? Cause he didnt want to go to EOW and disrespected them...which is why Osiris dissed him. Royce cant talk about checking boxes when he cant freestyle or remember his raps.

[@TheRealMCExcellent]

No Royce started it and Mickey finished it....facts!

[@Bobby-oc9qw]

Lupe ethered Royce...Mike Tyson punch out style like Facts said

[@robertmcknight6458]

Where on the internet people saying Lupe won vs Royce?! Lupe dis wasn't hard at all! Royce proved he raps better! He wasn't trying to turn it into a personal beef and that's where people got it confused!

[@dewanewelch1744]

I agree with you. Lupe my 2nd fav ever behind Em. Royce in my top 10. Yet when I heard Lupe song inwas like what is this garbage. It was rush, not polished, and very sub par. He was just being rude. Royce although not going directly at Lu completely out rapped him. That all that Royce was ever saying. He was like show me how good you can Rap. Lu was on some personal stuff. When Rottcr saw that he was like naw this not the way I wanted this to go. He wanted friendly competition. Truth be told Micky and Kid Vicious Royce lil bro was the top 2 in terms of diss tracks.

[@dewanewelch1744]

@@brooklynmedina7676 in terms of straight rapping and bars Royce killed him. In terms of disrespect Lupe won. Lupe song and bars were very basic. Royce absolutely put on a clinic but he was keeping it straight bars. He wasn't going at Lupe throat

[@erikk2687]

MICKEY STARTED ALL OF THIS, BY NOT MINDING HIS OWN B.I. 😆 🤣 😂

[@wolf4rmflatbushunknown577]

Lupe can't Fuck with Royce...str8 up...actually Royce is a Top 5 Elite high lyrical Wizardry Mc

[@elliottwilson2352]

Boy you funny I see why you didn’t get no thumbs up on that dumb shit lol

[@Able1212music]

The Wraith was dope... Royce def lost that one #SoldierOfGods I got something for Robert #Able1212

[@ronj7973]

Where do laughing, come in? No one, outside of New York, Jersey, Northeast, heard of this. So, why go on KZbin? There's 50 States... Not 2 States... New York and Jersey!

[@SabrumBaker]

Is their a reason why y’all can’t just drop tracks? Why does it have to be staged and performances and etc etc? Just drop a track

[@calebdarling9118]

Any who thinks lupe didn't have 75%-85% of that written and ready for when royce sent his shot is a dummy.

[@youngjayo6881]

exactly...these niggas really gone sit here and lie to us and say this man woke up in the middle of the night, wrote, recorded, mixed, mastered and released a damn near 7 minute verse in 3 hours....Lupe is super nice but c'mon man

[@calebdarling9118]

Exactly. People are just huggin lupes nuts like crazy

[@endofaiya]

Lupe killt Royce.

[@Cat_90S]

At this rate ur being corny for trying to keep this beef alive

[@Losmarcellalmighty]

Mickey dope af but that nigga super soft. I get it if you not tryna act all gangster if you not but quit talkin all soft to these dudes like they big bro. Mickey better than Royce and if I was him I’d scream it from the top of my lungs. Royce ain’t no damn legend

[@MikeSpexTV]

Lupe slaughterhoused Royce , Em was nowhere to be found. Disclaimer: Love all of them as artists 🤓 but…. Lupes a black belt literally 🥋 and in rap

[@to-ih1cr]

Royce is better MC than all these dudes bar for bar. What irks me is…no one knows because he didn’t crush anyone….so…we just assume and blindly hope Royce is better.

[@to-ih1cr]

@Terence Johunkin definitely…is better…we hope…lol!!

[@Weasel_NM575]

We all know Royce has bars and can crush ppl in a beef just look back at Eminem and D12 but honestly he couldn’t compete with SLR 3 1/2 and Wraith