Recalling The German Matchfixing Wave In CS:GO

[@SaintedPIacebo]

@33:45 The irony of matchfixing and cheating while having DemQQ on the HLTV page as the player of the week is perfect.

[@qaywsx583]

12:12 2013 to 2015 CS:GO lounge was a lawless wasteland lmao. 12 year olds just slamming 500 value bets like it was nothing. Crazy how no one gave a fuck lol

[@JuicyG_]

In a funny way losing money on CSGO Lounge at 14-17 years old was what got gambling out of my system. Now as an adult I have 0 interest in gambling or sports betting. Don't miss the anixety of placing a $60-120 bet overnight and waking up with an intense anxiety and rush to check the website. Also the match-fixing was something else, T3 German teams always having weird results

[@thatgamingfreak]

​@JuicyG_ there was also that period of time where every chinese match was fixed and the organizers would fake bet the lower side as high favorites and swap their bets right before it locked once the dumb money followed them in

[@2013_Shox]

I miss this era of CSGO lounge, I traded to a solid inventory from nothing.

[@bipolarminddroppings]

@@JuicyG_ being an adult already, nearly 30 at the time, and being someone who's never understood how skins have real world value, I never had any anxeity about placing bets on CSGO lounge. I made a "fortune" in skins by making insane bets on underdogs, precisely because I didn't pay a penny for the skins in the first place. Those skins sat in my steam account until about 6 months ago, when I sold my entrie inventory on the steam market. I've been paying for games and Rust skins with the proceeds. glad you got the gambling out of your system when you were young, and learned the lessons. unfortunately, many didn't.

[@gamingmarcus]

@@JuicyG_ Same same. I invested around 100$ back then. Lost most of it, traded the remains for some nice skins and nowadays they're worth like 400$ lul. No interest in gambling anymore.

[@TetchyyHD]

Great $100 question. Enjoyed it

[@Tib1010]

Unicorns of love. That's all I'll say. If you know, you know.

[@bipolarminddroppings]

that name always sounded like a pornographic version of My Little Pony...

[@samsharpe787]

Funnily one of the most beloved LoL eu orgs from when they were in the lcs

[@alexs5368]

I didnt pay much attention to old LoL. Did they matchfix?

[@IM_MOUNTAIN]

If those unicorns wanna take you to candy mountain... I say f*ck it... chance it.

[@Biblionaut]

It was an open secret and no one gave a shit.

[@Rvbeus]

Listen. I'm just a regular guy 33 American finish Carpenter wasn't around when the choke slam misinformation campaign thing happened but been around for about 5 years. Listening to you. Read the comments on the cheating story from the bad website. I wouldn't have made it dude. No chance I would. That would have sent me into a spiral. It's a miracle that you made it out of there. And thanks for making my life easier by giving me lots of content to listen to at work.

[@waken]

The forced pov recording rule is what killed my love for the game. Ended up getting a match overturned that we won fair. Had no interest in playing a game full of cons and cheats.

[@mpot2000]

Amazing historical piece my boy. Please make more of this - as somebody that started following cs in 2013 it’s so hard to find good stories and histories about css and 1.6

[@j11889]

almost spat my drink out at my screen when i heard the name "TornadoTony" lan dodger or not that name is incredible

[@Nykryian]

"I didn't do it then, so I didn't do it now" is such a crazy way to try and spin the narrative.

[@N00btr00per]

"They couldnt prove we did it then, we didnt do it now. :)"

[@ArdeeRaccoon]

Richard, love that you're bringing out so much new content lately! when i feel demotivated to do basic daily tasks i love just putting on a new video of yours to motivate me to do them anyway. Much love from The Netherlands to my favorite esports LGBTQ+ Mafia boss XoXo

[@vincecs]

hearing you doing german accents is really making my day ♥ greetings from germany

[@kreftan]

It was the same in 1.6 with Germans, if you didn't have a screenshot showing you played with 32 bit smokes instead of 16 bit or someone in your team forgot to record a demo they would try and forfeit you. They would also wait until the very last second to join a game and if any of your players wasn't on for any reason they'd call admin and try and claim a win for you not showing up in time. Granted this wasn't just done by Germans but I can tell you the feeling on the Swedish side of the 1.6 scene I came in contact with was that they were the worst culprits in all of this. They also had a reputation for being cheaters. Actually interesting to hear this was the same in Source and that this feeling was not just prevalent in the Swedish scene.

[@Flashv28]

Playing with germans in mm/premier/faceit is either a) toxic pos or b) friendly guys that sweat & hunt every kill

[@RedRiverCAE]

can confirm as german

[@Slask69]

And all of them refuse to speak english.

[@almightyIrie]

@@Slask69 German myself, and i hate when they refuse to speak english. Always reminds me on darker times in history tbh, i'm wary of those insisting to speak german for sure..

[@schnetziiiii]

@@almightyIrie as a german as well, what works for me to get rid of both the toxicity and the not speaking English is this: refusing to speak german even though my profile clearly says „Germany“ after a few rounds of trying with german they will either a) switch to English as well if they are the friendly kind b) stop talking shit when they are the awful kind. Just complete lack of acknowledgment of their german-ness basically fixed playing with Germans for me.

[@dogsushienjoyer]

Playing against germans: toxic af especially if you are german

[@zwerg6able]

Now also live in the ESL ONE Cologne 2024 Showmatch. xD

[@Thecrazytoco]

In 2015 I was 16. That wasn’t even my peak of csgo lounge use. These people used and discarded minors for their love of CS, (skin addiction on top) for profit. Idk, there won’t ever be reasonable change now, I still love CS but like everything else in the world right now in feels predatory.

[@kaliver517]

Storytime with Richard is always a good listen.

[@dylanhuntly3517]

Hey Rich, don’t know if you follow the NBA at all but recently there was a player - Jontay Porter - who got a lifetime ban for placing bets on his statlines. Could be an interesting parallel there if you write something more about the match fixing standards of proof in future. Cheers for the fire history lesson and informative video.

[@KCCKirby]

Shout out to RCON_Joe!

[@t.r.2283]

Ahhh ghe god old time of Germany. Be happy they never showed up with 3d vision glases. I remember having a free walhack using them with certain settings

[@xDraga]

oh man i remember back in cs:s days would never accept 3v3 4v4 5v5 pcw's etc vs german players for these reasons

[@Teyserback]

Just reading the phrase "pcw" is giving me temporal whiplash

[@thyme1]

thanks to the guy who paid for this and richard, very interesting stuff

[@robertlyall]

I completely forgot about the no french/german thing 😂

[@coooolibri]

the early ESL EPS (pro series) and EAS (amateur series) was what GSL in korea is for starcraft. everybody wanted to play there, every good team wanted to get in. that is totally normal to demand the replays, especially back then lol. how is that a bad thing to make out?

[@JJ_196]

ironic that esports betting is banned in Germany too

[@julius6328]

Most likely a coincidence. Not irony. Not to be a dick.

[@JJ_196]

@@julius6328 still ironic

[@D2KX]

I am German and a friend of mine, who was much better at CS than I was at the time, used to play with TONI after he was brought up randomly one time and TONI was happy enough with his performance. I have a lot of memories from that time but essentially there is nothing in this video that I would disagree with. TONI really did love the game and was great at it (can't speak for the others) but obviously that does not excuse the behavior at times. I will say I was lowkey expecting jbree LOCHER (Yannick Noe) to get a mention at some point, as he was one of the most well known players (in a negative sense) in the German community, but I guess he was more on the cheating rather than the matchfixing side ^^

[@popeyegaming1342]

CS feels like the boxing of esports, cant watch anything without betting ads even the odds get displayed in every game and stuff. Makes watching feel bad, i hope it goes away anytime

[@K1m9857]

Richard lewis is a genuine human being His ethics, humanity, and real life view of life is something to strive for The redditors and haters don't want to face reality, which Richard Lewis lives and breathes, and project themselves into pro gamers life since they can't get to that level ❤ On that note I am quite confused on why the "banned team who forfeited a meaningless game" isn't a competitive integrity breaker? Much like stewie2k did when he did the same and was called out? Unless I misheard or the circumstances are different Would love to know and discuss ❤

[@Benjamin-gm9nw]

51:42 Need the full clip!

[@Biblionaut]

as a german who was around back than its crazy how many of my friends who still play cs dont know about it or dont care at all. not just the match fixing but the cheating as well. the german scene is weird. always was and always will be i guess.

[@obi234]

Wait, so, for just $100 I can commission an hour of content from Richard Lewis?

[@RiggedandReady]

Big if true

[@Sebastian-f7f]

the person/character Richard is talking about in the middle of the video? is he saying Stormberg or Stromberg?

[@JJ_196]

storm

[@JrwVWR]

Great video.

[@zwerg6able]

So, which Tournament is the Fixing Event he talked about? I would expect BetBoom?

[@JJ_196]

CCT and other tier 3 TOs

[@Scyborg832]

CCT most likely. Everyone knows CCT merchants are a bunch of fixers.

[@gurhankaya]

Stormbööger kaysersöze, its u RL 😂

[@PIERROT37]

VIVE LA FRANCE MON AMI, remember we were the best back then loool

[@officialmcdeath]

Allo Allo \m/

[@Sam-es2gf]

As soon as you say "back in the day" in regards to cs and germans.. If you know, you know. Dodgy mfs. People would avoid Germans when irc was the go-to to arrange a match. It was a well deserved reputation. They were at it for soooo long

[@Sam-es2gf]

5 mins later you mentioned it 😂

[@ViviDoomsday1]

I assume you already know about Mixbot asian fixing way back when and all those chinese teams fixed games. (like ehome, vg, zen. etc.) 😂

[@irpky]

The articles back in the EuroCSS days were bad 😆 blame my dyslectic arse for that 😉

[@jensdb7763]

Yeah fu Richard for making sense and trying to do the right thing. How dare you ! But on a serious note. Iiked csgolounge. But i was only betting like 1 or 2 eu skins. Just for the extra flavor. But i understand some people will always f over a fun thing. So good riddence i guess

[@omgwasistdasden]

Its ALWAYS the Germans, isnt it?

[@looky7486]

not always the cis & east europe scene is infected too. and we had a na matchfixing lately

[@chrlzcs]

lot of german cheaters too

[@Schizo_Rez]

They cheat in everything, I think they are tied with the Russians for the most cheaters. I have seen so many German cheaters in Tarkov

[@jakobegger5007]

my god Richies German accent is terrible :D

[@danjacksonguitar3701]

Absolutely unbearable to listen to. Jesus, mate. Came for the promising content, left within minutes for the personality and character.

[@RLewisReports]

Can you tell me the exact timestamp of when you decided to leave. Thanks. I ask because you spammed insults on other videos so if I was to guess I'd say you were a mentally unstable vaccel.

[@danjacksonguitar3701]

@@RLewisReports absolutely, about 03:40. Yeah, I've "spammed insults"... I'm sure that's a quantifiable and qualifiable take there. No offense taken, you're as credentialed at Psychology as I am at Counter Strike. Also vaccel isn't a word.

[@RLewisReports]

But you did spam insults. Cuck was your go to. If you left within minutes why did you go to other videos to post that?

[@danjacksonguitar3701]

@@RLewisReports Spam is one comment per video viewed?... No, that's not spam - that's what having a KZbin audience is. 3 comments across 3 videos, and one is very nice, obviously you ignored that one because it doesn't fit with your current endeavour... That video has you put yourself on a pedestal while you peddle an extremely naïve world-view. Despite the fact that you can apparently read fairly well - and have access to all the information, you seem to be misrepresenting absolutely all the facts - something I would definitely not expect from someone who is paraded as a journalist... I made that comment that you're moaning about before I made this one. But you probably knew that, you just wanted to try and gaslight twice in one comment. Naughty.

[@RLewisReports]

So you called me a cuck on one video for reasons I doubt you can explain, then came to another video to leave a comment saying you wouldn't watch my videos because you found my character insufferable, implying you'd never watched anything by me previously, which you now say you have? I dunno man, kind of seems mentally ill to me.

[@charleston7717]

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[@trishula-8037]

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