How to use Hardware Send Effects in TotalMix FX

[@MarcusCorbett]

"note that the input channel 5 & 6 is the return channel from the hardware effect..." {at 2.02}. Only one problem...there is no sign on screen of 'channel 5 & 6. Clear as mud. How can we be expected to understand this ?

[@basspartout]

Absolutely true. Did not help at all. Just when I thought I finally got the hang of TotalMix I am lost again. Spending two hours now just to get my Strymon BigSky to work properly as a send effect and still don't get it. Glad I'm not alone!!

[@joeymc5272]

@@basspartouti just came here to try it and its so complicated compared to my audient and apollo interfaces. Normally when you do a send and return you output out of say channel 3/4 and come back on a different channel input 1/2. This is going to be a cluster fk for me.

[@reallyreallyfreemusic]

Very helpful; thank you. I think I finally understand this. FWIW I think I'd prefer to record the effected audio to a separate DAW track so I can tweak the blend later as the mix becomes more finalized. Thus no need to set up a loopback channel.

[@RMEAudio]

You’re welcome! DO what works best for you, that’s the beauty of TotalMix FX. :-)

[@dazeja]

Perfect explanation. Thank you.

[@chrispoole2438]

This video is big on the what, but I didn't understand the how, ie I found out a lot about what Totalmix can do, but I didn't get a handle on how I can do it. It might be me, but I have found tutorials by other contributors (Barry Johns for example) much clearer to understand.

[@CarpPine]

Did you watch the video? It literally explained all the steps you need: - patch a cable from RME analog output to the effect input - patch a cable from the effect output to RME input - in TotalMix, select the hardware output channel connected to the effect output, and raise the fader of the channel which you want to route to the effect - still in TotalMix, select the phones or main output, and raise the fader of the hardware input channel which is connected to the effect output

[@laurenceviegas3974]

Are there any videos from RME on how to set up send/return on ableton with total mix? I keep hearing the reverb mix with the main out :/

[@sikfist]

Consumer Feedback: Add the ability to load 3d party plugins into totalmix and you will takeover the market. A simple software update. Happy New Years Rme!

[@anthonydrentvevo670]

Hey there, how do you send FX with RME Babyface Pro? There is a reverb on my cheap behringer mixer that I want to add to some dry vocals. Thanks heaps.

[@EchoReverb6]

CAN RME UCX1 can use main output Room EQ(TotalMix ) like UCX2? thanks

[@keith.loves.lasagna]

Is this possible with XLR ports? I have a Babyface Pro FS and was wondering if I can do this. That said, thank you for this demo!

[@kisho2679]

and how the othe way arround? How can one load a VST in TotalMix and send it to external hardware gear?

[@LB-pp7pu]

Hi, I have a Digiface Usb, is it possible to create hardware sends like the one in this video also with Total Mix not-Fx like the one that comes with the Digiface? I have a Digiface and 3x Adi 8 DS, I miss the passage in which you create the send/return submixes. Thanks

[@WhackABilly]

Can you do a video using the AES input/output on a interface and the routing in TotalMix FX?

[@RMEAudio]

Sure!

[@garrel10]

Could this be possible with just a babyface pro fs, using the phone output that goes in send? Thanks

[@RMEAudio]

Yes you can use the phones output as line out.

[@garrel10]

@@RMEAudio Thanks.

[@Nenufares]

Is it possible to mix with the totalmix DSP plugins not at tracking level but mixing a recorded song? I mean make the tracks go out of my daw separately to the totalmix use the Eq and Compr for every channel individually, and make it back to the Daw individually? I have a UCX. I´ve looked for a video explaining it and I didn´t find it. Thanks

[@PM-yz8fx]

Hello, please could you tell me if I can connect a stereo reverb hardware effect on two condenser microphones and listening to the effected signal only through the headphones output of a Babyface pro fs? Also is it possible to do this without connecting the Babyface to a computer?

[@alfieholloway]

How can I do this with the babyface pro? Can I use the headphone out to send to a compressor and back in via the line/instrument input?

[@RMEAudio]

Yes you can use the headphone output of RME units as line output.

[@ole817]

what shall i do when i want to have insert oder send effects routing directly to a channel in my DAW(Ableton)? i dont know if i have to do my routing in ableton or in Totalmix?

[@mariorobles87]

Can you route also a track from ableton through a hardware efdect and then back in?

[@RMEAudio]

Yes, of course! Just route the Software Playback channel to the hardware effect :-)

[@mariorobles87]

@@RMEAudio and then what do i have to select in Ableton?

[@RMEAudio]

@@mariorobles87 Ableton will come out as Software Playback Channel 1/2 in TotalMix. Select the Submix for the hardware effect and there you go :-)

[@aleixandorrabonet9540]

Hi, what's the difference between doing a hardware insert and a hardware send/return? I've watched both videos and they seem the same to me. Many thanks!

[@groovedealerfeaturing-ashl6476]

Inserts are for one specific channel and are in series. The send/return method is parallel and can have signal from ANY channel that has an aux send that is able to be routed to that channel.

[@Jeaglejjj]

Is this postsovjetiska to do with the Babyface?

[@markstanding8538]

I don't understand any of these videos. I can't see it explained how to set it up to monitor just the returned (FX) signal only. I have it I can play an uncompressed track in logic (bass or vocals etc), it goes out of Analogue 1 (XLR) into a compressor, back into line input (instrument 3), but I can hear both the dry signal playing in Logic plus the compressed signal, I just need to be able to hear the compressed signal for the few seconds or minutes while I'm dialing in the compressor settings. So it feels I need some kind of extra 'submix' or something in the control room, which only has, for example, the line ins feeding it, so I can only hear what's coming out of the 'line in', and not hear what is coming out of Logic (although obviously that still has to be playing and going out of the XLR AN1). All of these videos seem to have a different Totalmix setup which I can't equate with mine, and then they seem to reference things I can't understand.

[@rune288]

Hi, off topic question but is there a way I can disable the mic inputs and headphone outputs as well as the adat channels so pro tools just sees the first 8 inputs and my madi I/O

[@RMEAudio]

The channels cannot be deactivated, but you can route your signal to the respective output and import the signal into ProTools with the loopback function. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o169lqWrr5JskM0

[@subbarecords]

Richt click on either HARDWARE INPUTS/SOFTWARE PLAYBACK/HARDWARE OUTPUTS -> Change channel layout -> Now you can select or deselect which channels are visible in your TotalMix FX window :)

[@GokulChandCreation]

How to compress a track by a hardware from daw? Showing the effect but i can't hear it...solution please? In a technical language...how to listen the wet signal from the hardware through monitor or headphone? Thanks in advance Sir❤️🙏

[@JamesMunthe]

Wow .. 🤩

[@unoprime3834]

Thank you!

[@alxs2k]

Is it possible to run TotalMix monitoring through Sonarworks Reference? Is the only thing i deeply miss about it.

[@RMEAudio]

Yes, it is. You have to select the I/O of the RME interface in the Sonarworks settings.

[@TomiSimatupang]

Totalmix "tricky"to use with Cubase - to put it very mildly. I want to do something seemingly simple, which is to add an external Hardware insert to a track in Cubase. With any other interface it couldn't be more straightforward, but with an RME interface there seems no way to make the Steinberg routing work hand in hand with Total mix!

[@MrFrankman13]

Cubase 11 und HDSPe AIO Pro PCI Express , danach suche ich ! Gibt es dafür, von euch Erfahrungen ? Hat es einer von euch in der DAW installiert ? wäre schön wenn einer mir erzählen kann , wie zufrieden er/sie /es ist.:-) Ich Liebäugle damit mit ,nur gibt es im Ganzem Netz keine Infos ,wie gut es zusammen funktioniert

[@RMEAudio]

Das funktioniert wunderbar zusammen. Warum auch nicht? :)

[@MrFrankman13]

@@RMEAudio Gibt es dazu auch Erfahrungswerte? Wo finde ich diese ? das wäre sehr hilfreich für mich. :-)

[@MrFrankman13]

@@RMEAudio Warum auch nicht ist keine konstruktive Antwort ,diese Antwort hilft wirklich nicht ! also es klingt irgendwie seltsam ,wenn mir keine Antwort gegeben wird, die Richtungsweisern ist ,schade !

[@sdx2r]

However unfortunately there is a small latency that you can hear doubling. Try dry signals. But still much better than other interface. 20yrs RME user all my converters are RME. 😊

[@memobrink3820]

Procedure looks the same for the insert effects. I’m confused.

[@thiskingbusiness]

I always end up with a feedback loop, I followed the instructions but the levels are low and the feedback loop goes crazy :(

[@AxisChemicals]

Same here...

[@dazeja]

@@AxisChemicalsmake sure your “mix” on the effects unit is set to all wet. If you still get feedback then your fx unit doesn’t have true 100 percent wet setting. I have several pedals that do this. They allow some of the dry sound to come through. If that’s the case, then you have to turn down the dry signal at your main bus “only” in Totalmix . Don’t turn it down at the FX out channel of Totalmix, then you won’t get any signal.

[@rkglpwy]

But no one uses Totalmix as a daw. Of course you won’t notice latency when you’re just sending one stereotrack. And for a mix it’s impossible to bounce return effects for every track. Using a hardware insert realtime in a daw still causes too much latency - any way around that?

[@SB-wn2rd]

This is fine for time based effects like delays and reverb, but by coincidence I was experimenting with this myself earlier today and when for example using a distortion unit, the phasing between the dry and wet signal was noticeable enough to be annoying and I had to go back to using a hardware mixer. If you have any tips for avoiding this problem it would be great, as then I can get rid of the hardware mixer ;)

[@RMEAudio]

Seems like your distortion effect is supposed to be an insert effect. :)

[@SB-wn2rd]

@@RMEAudio Using it as an insert effect would solve the problem here, but it's not 'supposed' to be an insert only effect - it works perfectly well as a send effect with a true zero-latency mixing system ;)

[@M4Y0_]

@@SB-wn2rd Maybe split the signal with a DI box, xlr to the interface and the through to the distortion unit. Of course then it's not really a send effect. Better if you send a test signal through and measure how many samples you have to nudge the effected track back. I don't see how an interface could solve this issue for you by itself. It can't know what you're using, e.g. if you have a digital unit as a send effect, there is a little bit more latency.

[@SB-wn2rd]

Hi, thanks for your reply. I already have a completely workable setup for external inserts in my DAW using delay compensation. Of this course won't work for a live feed unless you accept that delay to what you're monitoring too, so I just a hardware mixer with aux sends when recording. To be clear, my issue here is that RME markets the interfaces as 'zero latency' and it's misleading as no audio interface is zero latency. Maybe they should call it 'zero additional latency' ;)

[@ZebSound]

nothing is working...this totalmix fx makes no sense. i never get any output of the fx out

[@reallyreallyfreemusic]

In the video you say "no latency," but what about the time it takes for the signal to reach the external effect, work its way though the processor(s), and then get back to the DAW? Doesn't this involve some unavoidable latency? If I set up a send within Cubase, they provide a way to compensate for latency by pinging the signal path. Wouldn't this be preferable? Here's a video in which this is explained: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fl6xXmx3fNGljs0 I tried their method before, and IIRC I still had to use the send/return method in TotalMix. Still, it has the advantage of latency compensation.

[@Mtaalas]

It would be very nice if TotalMix FX had the GUI such that you could "assign" particular outputs as sends and certain inputs as returns and then there would be send-knobs on each channel as assigned. This would make the user experience better by abstracting all that routing behind simpler user interface. Obviously having a delay compensation might be an issue, meaning that since no system is ever actually "zero latency" you always need to add delays to other channels to compensate... but hmm...

[@RMEAudio]

Thank you for the input. We’ll forward this to our developers.

[@Joe-mz6dc]

I came here to find a way to do this with my Babyface and then I hear him say UCX. Haha I guess there's no silver bullet. You have to have the interface with outputs to make this happen.

[@MrSRellz]

It’s possible with the Babyface Pro. You can use the headphone output (which is also a line output) to send to the effect unit and then return on inputs 3/4. Hope that helps

[@LsbTv]

[@RMEAudio]

:-)

[@LsbTv]

@@RMEAudio next on our wishlist for our studio: a RME soundcard. with many many analog ins and outs :)

[@RMEAudio]

@@LsbTv A possibility could be an RME MADI or AVB interface in combination with the M-32 AD Pro and M-32 DA Pro for 32 inputs and outputs in high quality conversion. We can help you to plan your setup. rme-audio.de/de_m-32-pro.html

[@LsbTv]

@@RMEAudio maybe we can work in future together. we are from the team of the zen delay. (ninja tune x erica synth (with liquid sky - thatz us) we have 5 new instruments in the pipeline for 2021.

[@RMEAudio]

Hey, of course! I contacted Erica a while ago!!! When can we talk?