For those who don’t know; Roval = Specialized Cadex = Giant Oquo = Orbea Zipp = SRAM Hunt = Independent Princeton = Independent ENVE = Independent Notes: Enve previously used DT Swiss and Chris King hubs, not Mavic, and they do not share engineers with Mavic, and have no relation to Mavic except being owned by the same investment firm for a short period while Mavic was circling the drain. Weird choice not including the Reserves and Bontragers given the inclusion of Cadex and Specislized. The Reserves are the closest second to the ENVEs, wide profiles, but hooked, and a fair bit cheaper.
@roadcc3 ай бұрын
We can only review what we get sent, enve did explain how they poached mavic engineers so we’ll take their word for it
@fookie-fone3 ай бұрын
@@roadccyup, the first hookless versions of the ENVE wheels had a Mavic designed hub for their ENVE Alloy hubs. They also offered Chris King and Industry Nine at the time. With the latest iteration of ENVE wheels, they are using a newly developed InnoDrive hub with their newly poached Mavic engineers and dropped Chris King and i9 as optional suppliers.
@petersouthernboy63273 ай бұрын
Unbelievable that you left out Reserve.
@user-xh7rz6sh7t3 ай бұрын
@@petersouthernboy6327See above
@RyonBeachner3 ай бұрын
@@roadcc Interesting. Especially considering the new ENVE system works with a star ratchet that was conveniently released mere moments after DT’s patents expired. 😂
@neilfox95403 ай бұрын
Did I miss the bit where you actually road tested the wheels?! I was hoping for more data points on comparative speed, climbing and aero capabilities. Disappointing.
@livelikelarry00173 ай бұрын
Yeah this could’ve been done a lot better
@eleni25543 ай бұрын
Thanks for this post, I’ll turn off now, another pointless video
@BikesKomsCRO3 ай бұрын
Have they ever done anything of the sort??? They clickbait and never actually give you any god damn data points or runs..this is such a pointless ass video. Always get 50mm deep with big external for aero benefit (28/30mm) for 30mm tyres. Go tubeless. Can do this for about 700£ nowadays. This video sucks.
@jepulis66743 ай бұрын
How would they road test them and provide meaningful results?
@BikesKomsCRO3 ай бұрын
@@jepulis6674 2 or 3 runs with same setup, power and position. It would give some basic data. Not everyone has access to all these wheels. This videos is useless in current format. 3 efforts up climb, 3 flat efforts. Keep it 220w for example. Very easy
@MrJaycobsen3 ай бұрын
I would take the rovals since they are a top performer in every test and hooked
@dirtroadie46423 ай бұрын
I really like that Roval has said no to hookless
@rmm3053 ай бұрын
DT Swiss should've been on this list comparison.
@BikesKomsCRO3 ай бұрын
What comparison.. Just giving details about wheels with no test runs. I can just go to the company website and read the marketing shit they make up.
@NeoPayneHK3 ай бұрын
vision too!!!!
@Kanonka282 ай бұрын
What about rim brake wheels ?
@imrekovacs3841Ай бұрын
I have the Zipp 454 NSW with 28mm tires on currently. No issues with stability here in BC, Canada. We get lots of windy days. Lot of hill climbing around here too. The wheels have been great for two years so far.
@OZ-il1nm3 күн бұрын
Hi mate , I'm between buying the dtswiss and the zipp nsw454 , what's your experience with the zipps thanks
@690MBCOMMANDO3 ай бұрын
I have most of these wheels and my favorites in the following order: 1) Roval CLX II Team (DT180 hubs with ceramic SINC bearings in team version, differentiated front/rear depth very stable in crosswinds, lightest, stiff and hooked for higher PSI) 2) NSW 454 (great all around but a little heavier than the CLXII Team and hub is good but not as good as DT180s, also deeper front wheel not as good in cross wind) 3) ENVE 4.5 (better in the crosswind than 454's but hubs are not as good as the cognitions)
@oliverjacobs85943 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to see how a custom wheel build out would compare. You could get a wheelset several hundred grams lighter at the same depth for about half the price of any of these wheelsets, and it would be interesting to see what if any disadvantages it would have. An example would be Duke baccara slr 48's+extralite hubs+generic aerodynamic carbon spokes coming in at about 1080 grams (1130 w/56mm depth). This would cost roughly 2000 euros, so still certainly in "dream wheel territory".
@kestralrider3133 ай бұрын
great vid, my new favorite wheelset are my ENVE 3.4s, but to be honest I wanted 4.5s. I went down because I found some on sale $1000USD off. The 3.4s are amazing, buttery smooth with 29/31 tires, you get speed, comfort and extra cornering grip all in one setup, no compromises other than the hefty hit to the wallet. I know there are some "never hookless" riders out there but I've not had a problem with mine coming off or mounting, they just worked out of the box for me.
@dmitry.gashko2 ай бұрын
"I've not had a problem with mine" that's the reason why people don't like them.
@christ68743 ай бұрын
Could you do reviews/ comparisons of the Campagnolo Bora Ultras. They recently updated the Ultras with wider internal widths. And the hubs are absolutely smooth and silent, which I prefer.
@roadcc3 ай бұрын
We’ll see what we can do!
@oneschance3 ай бұрын
I really wanted the new Bora Ultras to be included. Especially since I’d prefer a closed rim bed so I don’t have to use rim tape.
@mohammadtaufek55293 ай бұрын
I am currently using new C23 Compagnolo Bora Ultra WTO 45 …it is smooth & silent……. good for climbing & descending…..so it is ok as compared with my previous Bontrager Aerolus 51 wheel set.
@oneschance3 ай бұрын
@@mohammadtaufek5529 those are the wheels I’m eyeing
@oneschance3 ай бұрын
@@mohammadtaufek5529 do you think they could’ve made it on this list?
@hilarioborges58063 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to know in which pressure were you running those wheels and if that has anything to do with your conclusions.
@CAL7A3 ай бұрын
I have Cadex 42s and they are sublime. I don't find the carbon spokes to be chattery or harsh at all.
@Silidons913 ай бұрын
I'll take my FarSports wheels, 240 hubs, 30mm external/24mm internal, hooked, and weigh only 1270g and cost $1k USD :)
@rhozjan3 ай бұрын
Totally agree. I have several wheels from them. And have as well with their RD270 hub, and it works flawlessly. And my 40mm 24/30 weight 1.135g. Even if lets say the bearings go earlier, one simply change with high end bearings and still saves tons of money.
@Ehsender2 ай бұрын
Which model is the one you mentioned?
@rhozjan2 ай бұрын
@@Ehsender cannot properly answer as my answers keep getting deleted!
@dmitry.gashko2 ай бұрын
@@rhozjan just don't add links
@rhozjan2 ай бұрын
@@dmitry.gashko Even without links it gets deleted
@wagj163 ай бұрын
Please, if you can and have the oportunity, test dt swiss arc dicut 38,50 and 62 mm deep and how they perform between themselves and against those wheelsets, Reserves and Roval CLX Team. And would like to ask which of them you would use at a sportive like Tour des Station 1000, which of them helps most to at least cross the finish line.
@JeffreyThistle3 ай бұрын
Hookless is a deal breaker for me, never seen so many tire and wheel related issues as I did in professional cycling this year.
@RyonBeachner3 ай бұрын
@@JeffreyThistle Two? You saw two. 😂
@JeffreyThistle3 ай бұрын
@@RyonBeachner you could make a 5-minute video just with the tire and wheel related issues in the tour this year
@jwfriar3 ай бұрын
I think it’s a little overblown. I kinda expect in 3 years nobody will have hooked wheels that are new
@StopTheRot3 ай бұрын
@@jwfriarlol
@StopTheRot3 ай бұрын
@@jwfriarso, the end of clinchers? That’s hilarious. I ride with a club that has 460 members and I can honestly say that only 10-20% of people are on tubeless. Many of the same people have embraced tubeless for CX racing. It just doesn’t work on the road.
@Z-u-m-a3 ай бұрын
Quite liked the noisy hubs in my new wheels wheels at first but just find it irritating now. Older ones suddenly feel peaceful. Definitely a factor if choosing any others... If not at these prices!
@JFomo3 ай бұрын
I have both sets of zipp Firecrest and NSWs. I bought them purely for their price (at the time on sale), low weight, and sexy looks 😍 They seem fast enough for my legs.
@pruutus3 ай бұрын
+1 for ENVE
@mruedar3 ай бұрын
Dt Swiss all day, all night. We are sitting on a time bomb with this Hookless trend.
@Tommy314163 ай бұрын
How could you not have the Bora Ultra WTO 45 C23’s included? Campagnolo wheels are still the best by miles - and are absolutely bombproof
@patiorio15383 ай бұрын
Exactly, Campagnolo is way better than Zip or any the shit he advertised. Especially ultra ceramic Bearing .
@rafacycle3 ай бұрын
I did with ck hubs and I am very happy. However one had to go for warranty because of strange noise. No problems with replacing anyway so yes best wheels.
@PaulioNZ3 ай бұрын
Would you consider any of those wheels if they were running lightweight Berd spokes which give you a lot more compliance?
@Jinisanickname3 ай бұрын
I love my ENVE 4.5 SES (previous generation hub) but I’m also a fan of Reserve and they have the best warranty. Have the 40 | 44 GR on my gravel bike.
@GallardoFreak8883 ай бұрын
Any hooked wheel is the one I'm going for. I don't want to deal with the hookless rim rim disaster that it is.
@Thomas-fy9yc3 ай бұрын
Missing the excellent Reserve wheelsets that are now stock on the Cannondale LAB71 , hooked, light, aero, unlimited weight limit, and lifetime warranty.
@joeboxer82is3 ай бұрын
Should have added No.6 Wheelset. This brand will surprise u. The specs are top notch!
@samsearle44333 ай бұрын
I bought some Hunt limitless and they are awesome. Cake with cermaic speed bearings. Probably the nest wheels around at that price.
@michaeldewing19043 ай бұрын
was this tested on different frames and group sets or the same each time.?
@littlevo93 ай бұрын
J’ai choisi les Roval rapide clx2 et ne regrette pas ,ce sont de véritables bombes. Je n’est jamais roulé une roue aussi aérodynamique,vous transpercez le vent de face avec ces roues,mes vitesses sur le plat ont augmenté significativement le jour où je les ai eu. Je les ai essayé sur un orca m30 à 2000€ pour voir ce que ça donnait sur un vélo « petit budget » immédiatement le vélo était sensationnel vraiment. J’aimerais avoir quand même une comparaison avec les DTswiss/swiss side 62mm arc 1100 qui ont été une grosse hésitation,certe elles sont moins large etc mais il paraît qu’on peu difficilement faire mieux en rendement.
@rirdlaer35603 ай бұрын
I’d pick the widest (OD) wheels with hooks. I’m done with tubeless so hooks is a must.
@lee1210mk2Ай бұрын
Zipp will always be number one,........because of their solid warranty!
@shaun_evox3 ай бұрын
4.5 Enve's 👌😎
@julianallen5153 ай бұрын
I would have liked to see SwissSide Hadrons in the test. Was that a diliberate omission, if so why, or were you unable to get a pair?
@Nucz5233 ай бұрын
No way those Princeton weigh that much w a tactic 01 hubs yet u put the price of Princeton w a tactic 01 hubs
@tomasiskooo3 ай бұрын
Yup. My Princeton Wake 6560 with tactic TR01 hub weigh 1390g. These 4550 weigh around 1275g.
@ks-vq5er3 ай бұрын
I have Roval CL2 and have no complaint at all but I really wonder whether it is worth upgrading to CLX2 or not…
@morrisizing3 ай бұрын
Pogacar still used the 28 TT's in the important stages in Mountains. Take a look at the yellow stickered Colnago he used once he got Yellow.
@morrisizing3 ай бұрын
Ps the 105 ratio is baseline figure but not a rule. Aerodynamist Paul Ballard talks about this not always being true.
@MrTallAndy3 ай бұрын
Scope Artech 6 not available?
@roadcc3 ай бұрын
We’ve not enough miles on them yet to draw conclusions I’m afraid
@n22pdf3 ай бұрын
Can you do another couple of vids for the next price brackets down etc it would also be great to see custom built wheels for example Borg 50 or similar. Pete 🚴🏻👍
@roadcc3 ай бұрын
We’ll see if we can get some in! Sounds like a plan
@runbymmkk3 ай бұрын
Even the the arrows pointing to the top 3 lightest wheelsets were wrong (3m40s mark).
@toycreator3 ай бұрын
i have the enve 3.4, Princeton 4550 light weight hubs(1.2kg), Cadex, Roval(2019) . Enve by far the best. may be because i ride on hilly places also my ftp is below 4w/kg. But No6 45/50 is lighter under 1.2kg, carbon spoke, wider internal so get u wider tyre lower pressure , hooked , fully closed internal... fast smooth responsive wheels.
@RyonBeachner3 ай бұрын
@@toycreator Curious to see more people get their hands on the No. 6 wheels. They seem nice, but the rear wheel internal width seems like such a strange choice.
@suhdud46463 ай бұрын
Seeing the Cadex wheels having open ended spoke retention on the hub, with all the current buzz around a case or two of Chinese wheels delacing and the cause for concern around that hub design choice. If it was such an issue, I doubt Giant (Cadex) would have opted for that route on their flagship wheel set.
@Velozrocks3 ай бұрын
Where are the campagnolo wheels?
@theinstigatorr3 ай бұрын
Would have liked to see Syncros Capital SL Aero as well
@stevocanuck3 ай бұрын
Cadex is the best on the list
@83dsvhtubb3 ай бұрын
Please test each wheelset and give us the data!
@kidShibuya3 ай бұрын
No, if I am spending 3K on a wheelset I want it to shut the f up and let me ride in peace. Also no, packing the hub with grease doesn't solve the sound issue. I did this with my DT Swiss hub and it was blissfully quiet.... For around 30 mins.
@MediaProConcept3 ай бұрын
Just don’t stop peddling 😂
@scottwatson78443 ай бұрын
@@MediaProConceptthat’s what I do when ever I approach anyone as mine are ridiculously loud.
@j3bu5dr1f7s3 ай бұрын
Two glaring omissions, Reserve and Syncros. The Syncros Capitol SL in particular are supposed to be superlative
@Skaughtto3 ай бұрын
Any chance you'll review the Hun Sustain 42 wheelset in the future?
@gerardsole4403 ай бұрын
where is reserve? probably one of the bests wheels i've ever used
@sanderdeboer58883 ай бұрын
Reserve wheels en DT swiss wheels i would like to see , next time😊
@roadcc3 ай бұрын
We’ll get on it!
@kolerezegnee36203 ай бұрын
you guys missed the new Scope Artech series, lighter than all of these while being 60mm and having a good wide profile.
@roadcc3 ай бұрын
We have a set on their way! Looking forwards to putting them through their paces
@simonwarmer87773 ай бұрын
4.5’s confirmed ✅
@scott50883 ай бұрын
Sorry but my dream wheels are campagnolo bora wto45.
@petersouthernboy63273 ай бұрын
That's a good one!
@MichaelWilliams-iv6dj3 ай бұрын
Pog ran 30s because you need a minimum of 29mm to match the 25mm internal width for stupid hookless wheels
@joekawasaki3 ай бұрын
Aren't all the wheels he's sponsored to run hookless? Maybe the wider tires were faster on those roads. It's my understanding that unless on a velodrome, the rolling resistance on the wider tires saves more watts than the aero benifit of the skinny ones.
@mikesuarez97803 ай бұрын
So where is the video on the cheaper wheels with little compromise?
@dominickbrookes51033 ай бұрын
Own the cadex, love them. Owned enve, loved them too
@scottwatson78443 ай бұрын
I’ve got the Cadex AR which as the name suggests is there gravel/all road wheels. They are great but far too loud in my opinion.
@abdelmajidhassane99793 ай бұрын
I rode dt-swiss ARC1100 for 3 years, and this year i bought a set of Newmen Vonoa for 1200 euro. They're second to none and they handle crosswind better than my dt swiss. Btw, stay away from hookless, they're not meant for road bike, the specular design of the rim is a steady danger under your saddle.
@rhozjan3 ай бұрын
Do you ride the new model? Which size? 49/54? I assume with steel spokes when you said the price? How are they with acceleration from slow speed?
@abdelmajidhassane99793 ай бұрын
They're the A.49/54 allround Vonoa. The vonoa come only with carbon spokes and they're stiffer than my previous Arc 1100, when they were offered with 30%off I couldn't resist. The have a better acceleration, their weight of only 1300g (real 1305g) really paid off during acceleration.
@rhozjan3 ай бұрын
@@abdelmajidhassane9979 excellent. You really got a good deal, as these wheels are just entering the market, and no discounts yet on several online shops. Where did you buy them?
@abdelmajidhassane99793 ай бұрын
@@rhozjan local dealer in Munich.
@mrm953 ай бұрын
The wheels with the currently best specs at least are the Scope Artech 6. 65 mm at 1244g. That is the best combination of aero and weight. There are shallower options as well for those not wanting to go with 65 mm. They are also very expensive. The Syncros (Scott) Capital SL also have better specs. Both are not even brand new. So this entire review is rather immediately dated to put it mildly.
@markrushton15163 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure whatever I use I will not be faster. But for looks and wheel enve (see what I did there) I would have Bora Ultras.
@Roadiemtb3 ай бұрын
Did you do a speed test? Coming later?
@TnFruit3 ай бұрын
No Hunt sound check?
@rli69512 ай бұрын
where are the WTO ULTRAS?
@TiexinGuo3 ай бұрын
If you are gonna decide which wheel is the best simply by talking instead of testing, why not just say "I like this one because I don't like the others so it's the best", period.
@roadcc3 ай бұрын
Next video: 6 months of riding, no talking, just using wheels
@petersouthernboy63273 ай бұрын
Reserve Turbulent Aero with DT 180 hubs. I feel like Enve was better with Chris King hubs. Made them special.
@roadcc3 ай бұрын
Reserve wheels requested 🫡
@willmeteora3 ай бұрын
Pleasae try a set of CRW 5060 before concluding that ENVE is the best.
@marcinstyle853 ай бұрын
Stay with hooked ,stay safe....
@brittle13 ай бұрын
which is best? the answer, as usual, should be "it depends"
@jasonm19743 ай бұрын
What about Boyd's?
@mortlow66883 ай бұрын
winspace, farsports, elite, dt swiss... ????
@batfed3 ай бұрын
Where’s Campagnolo 👀?
@markj.a3513 ай бұрын
The cheque didn’t clear in time
@saracen8883 ай бұрын
Stuck in the 90’s
@moritzorama3 ай бұрын
@@saracen888😂 good one
@l.d.t.63273 ай бұрын
@@markj.a351not that I mind they aren’t included, but they’re cheaper than ENVE and CADEX over here in Europe.
@mohammadtaufek55293 ай бұрын
Pro’s not using them….
@georgemicolta21303 ай бұрын
Nice content brother would you consider having or testing LIGHTWEIGHT MEILENSTEIN wheel set thank you
@oneschance3 ай бұрын
😮😮😮
@Mengina3 ай бұрын
no need, everbody knows that lightweights are garbage wheels
@Bikes-guitars3 ай бұрын
Personally I think the Roval Rapide CL2 is hard to beat, £1000 less than the CLX and only weighs 60 grams more, and it’s the same rim which is the rotating mass that matters!
@roadcc3 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@jeanmorali41903 ай бұрын
Lighter, Best combo ELITEWHEELS Drive or Drive Hélix !
@biscottigelato85743 ай бұрын
Yeah. Debating this. Craft Racing Works, or used DT Swiss. Looking at 65mm tho
@rhozjan3 ай бұрын
Farsport custom build carbon spoke wheels from their Wheelsfar site is even better, and lighter. Mine 40mm, 24/30 are 1,135g. 50mm are around 1,200g ;)
@czts47783 ай бұрын
Enve or Roval. Roval for hooked.
@dtdcampbell3 ай бұрын
This needs an obvious matchup for part 2 ENVE (Tadej) vs Reserve (Jonas)
@roadcc3 ай бұрын
Sounds like a plan!
@Keschoo2 ай бұрын
4:13 you should link to those recommendations
@angelortiz3533 ай бұрын
Test the crw craft wheels best wheels right now and thats my opinion but yea give them a test
@growproteas11483 ай бұрын
i just ordered the 50/60 -
@angelortiz3533 ай бұрын
@@growproteas1148 you are going to love them
@liquidSpin3 ай бұрын
The Syncros Capital SL's are the best.
@roadcc3 ай бұрын
Just got a set in for review!
@Vitone223 ай бұрын
Campagnolo and their CULT bearings are some of the best wheels.
@pgueneau13 ай бұрын
Bonjour. Super vidéo. Pourquoi ne pas avoir inclus dans votre test les dernières Campagnolo BORA ULTRA WTO C23. Elles pèsent 1318 grammes (les miennes) et ont des roulements (toujours pour moi) inégalés. Bravo encore pour votre travail.
@jou3708Ай бұрын
Hi! Is it weight on 35 or 45mm deep wheels? Also, how wide are they in widest point? Thanks!
@Freestyler91311 күн бұрын
Salut, est ce que tu recommanderai les bora pour des longues sorties ? Elles sont pas trop tape-cul ?
@pgueneau111 күн бұрын
@@jou3708hello.
@pgueneau111 күн бұрын
@@jou3708hello. 45 mm et 31 au point le plus large.
@pgueneau111 күн бұрын
@@Freestyler913
@zieluch3 ай бұрын
zipp, giant and enve are hookless so not really safe, can't be the wheel of choice. I wonder why there is not dt swiss here as they generally wipe out wind tunnel test. In the tested examples prinston or roval taking top spot.
@ColoCX3 ай бұрын
3:06 that's a solid rim bed?
@andreemurray70393 ай бұрын
Over priced over rated wind space are good and cheaper
@123oner23 ай бұрын
Good enough for Podgy....
@RSGSulldorfAltona-West3 ай бұрын
Aerycs?
@macklewis48822 ай бұрын
Anybody heard of Black INC?
@aboomination8973 ай бұрын
I completely lost any interest after the prices were revealed.
@jscycles13 ай бұрын
roval all day,hooked ftw
@songjoseph33143 ай бұрын
i vote for my aerous RSL
@silverburn553 ай бұрын
Quiet hubs ftw.
@JBN1372 ай бұрын
Rolf-Prima EOS4 and EOS6 are worth an eval.
@madrx22 ай бұрын
Anything hookless for the win!
@MarkArthur3 ай бұрын
Not fair. You didn't include the new hunt sub50s carbon spoke.
@roadcc3 ай бұрын
Not enough miles on them yet, review will be coming soon
@TenSapphires3 ай бұрын
Everybody is quoting 105 rule like it is gospel. It's not, like most things in aerodynamics - it depends!
@RyonBeachner3 ай бұрын
@@TenSapphires And Josh from Silca who coined it has literally said it didn’t prove to be true under further scrutiny.
@Jetlinerimages3 ай бұрын
Very best in the business without DTSwiss? 🤔
@CupheadAleks3 ай бұрын
Probably one of the worst comparison tests I've ever seen. This is just opinion based off one person. And he just bats off every wheel because he rides Rovals. No data, no comparison with speed, doesn't mention how they "feel". Just a waste of time
@pierrestaub86283 ай бұрын
You should have test new Rovals, best of the best to my mind
@roadcc3 ай бұрын
The Team or the CLX ii? We’d love to get a set of the team ones but they’re all gone!
@pierrestaub86283 ай бұрын
Clx 2 tubeless they are wider not ?
@user-nu5fx6en9h3 ай бұрын
Zipp 454 is on another level! 🎉
@peterl34632 ай бұрын
You guys forgot Vision Wheels........
@polytoddd3d3 ай бұрын
"money no object"......so where are the Lightweight Obermayer wheels?😆
@jou37083 ай бұрын
Cos they are jewelry to show off, not road wheelset. They would be worst in this comparison.
@polytoddd3d3 ай бұрын
@@jou3708 With all due respect, I would have preferred to find that information based on a comparison and review, rather than from a random anonymous poster who may be stating opinion with no statistics to back it up.