i used to cover this in a band when i was like 13, throwback
@Franklin-sq8uu4 ай бұрын
Yessir
@skellentor2 ай бұрын
Hell yeah. Been here since day one!!
@VishalSINGH-qc5pi2 ай бұрын
us here
@GeorgeMannB4 жыл бұрын
Matt Heafy just posted on his page about the passing of Brent Young (bassist on Ember to Inferno and this version of Like light to the flies, he’s the one that appears on this video). Rest In Peace, let this amazing song rock on in his memory.
@hernindio994 жыл бұрын
RIP Brent
@mystic_mermaid89744 жыл бұрын
Think we all came here do to the same thing 😩 Rip We will continue to listen in honor of your memory Brent.
@watdadamz50834 жыл бұрын
@@mystic_mermaid8974 isnt't this paolo?
@mystic_mermaid89744 жыл бұрын
Krey I was speaking in general that we will continue to listen to trivium and keep the spirit going!! 😘
@shred94754 жыл бұрын
@@watdadamz5083 no that was brent on thr video.
@maqhem12 жыл бұрын
I remember when this was new and exciting. Good times. I've moved on to more extreme music, but every now and then I come crawling back because I can't help myself, I can't resist. This music formed an era in my life and I get goose bumps just listening to it. Even if my life falls apart I still have this. I wish you an amazing journey through that which will change your life forever.
@hypeman133 Жыл бұрын
Imagine 10 years after your comment mate ❤️
@BigCheech-wy9os Жыл бұрын
Do you need a hug?
@walasona9 ай бұрын
"moved onto more extreme music". My friend, we all have that one comment we look back on and cringe at.
@miyaaaaw4 ай бұрын
What's "more extreme music"?
@genghisj13723 ай бұрын
music like Rain?
@1995flavio18 жыл бұрын
one of my favorite metal songs ever
@lightofheaven7708 жыл бұрын
foda demais cara
@recognizerarcade8 жыл бұрын
"Snob."
@andresdrummer96568 жыл бұрын
Of course it´s metal dummy XD
@NicktheLP8 жыл бұрын
No, it is core lol. Which is metal. Metalcore. Oh wait, you don't consider that metal because it doesn't pig squeal 100% of the song, my bad
@1995flavio17 жыл бұрын
The Uberman whhat?
@KevinTalentAMVs8 жыл бұрын
my first ever trivium song ^^ brings back memories
@ChristianPircher7 жыл бұрын
Same here lol
@christopherwhite70497 жыл бұрын
Kev Pull Harder for me, brutal lol
@randommetalhead77 жыл бұрын
Same here !
@TheDardyunna6 жыл бұрын
so nostalgic
@rhmtidiot6 жыл бұрын
Same!
@richardmetalfan944 жыл бұрын
RIP Brent Young (bassist in the video)
@renzo42964 жыл бұрын
I didn't know the bass player died, how'd he die does anyone know? A friend of mine just recently turned me on to this band, never heard of them till recently and they're really good. My favorite metal band is iron maiden, I'm open to all kinds of music though, love iced earth also, these guys rock!
@BenGiancotti8 ай бұрын
Yep on a stormy night and you can’t play outside you play music inside
@alyciarhodes50306 ай бұрын
😭😭
@Plush.Hunter7 жыл бұрын
Matt screams like a demon and sings like an angel... amazing.
@potatogamer55593 ай бұрын
its so hilarious that this could be about a7x bfmv OR trivium lmao
@justsomeguy72725 күн бұрын
@@potatogamer5559also applies to Howard Jones with Killswitch Engage. Notice all of these bands are from that glorious 2005ish era of metalcore too? God I love this genre
@inthemiddleofnowhere274523 күн бұрын
@@justsomeguy727 Best era
@Torymu9 жыл бұрын
Matthew heafy got the most unique voice! He can scream like a boss and sing amazingly beautiful as well
@Grisu.9 жыл бұрын
+Trymchannel he screams like a bitch
@browndbeanz74469 жыл бұрын
+Trymchannel screams like a butterfly?
@Torymu9 жыл бұрын
Brownd beans, think you got some reading problems mate
@yabo24249 жыл бұрын
+Trymchannel I agree its so amazing he's a monster
@coughdropper9 жыл бұрын
Most unique voice? Not really, but he is a great vocal performer nonetheless.
@PinkFloyd856110 жыл бұрын
Matt looks like a heavy metal version of Joseph Gorden Levit
@gajo12569 жыл бұрын
Or Jet Lee
@The_Crooked_Path9 жыл бұрын
***** Or Jet Li and Joseph Gordon Levit's love child
@gajo12569 жыл бұрын
thegodthathatesall That's what I thougt!
@deathpunk1877 жыл бұрын
Ted Mosby dude looks like the twin for the lead singer of Rise Against.... in a certain light
@Edallica7 жыл бұрын
oh cannot unsee now.
@CountyCorral5 жыл бұрын
First trivium song I ever heard. 2019 and I'm still playing it!
@iamloco6665 жыл бұрын
Same
@EricJaegerMusic9 жыл бұрын
This song is hella fun to play on guitar
@_Cosmo_9 жыл бұрын
DNET Airbear Couldn't agree more
@Dismal6269 жыл бұрын
DNET Airbear This was the first metalcore song I learned ~10 years ago. Still play it to this day.
@notaparrot34265 жыл бұрын
So much fun, try down picking it, its a great exercise!!
@prstorero5 жыл бұрын
@@notaparrot3426 Down picking is the only way I can play it lol. Never even tried alternate. I can't do the needed string transitions in this song when alternating.
@redditstories65535 жыл бұрын
Fr it is
@erickbiersack85325 жыл бұрын
Lyrics Behold our beloved revels In tragedy (In tragedy) Self-denying abhorence for bloodshed Behold hypocrite Those who run will be burned (4x) Devoutly wished for blinded eyes This tragedy's like light to flies This seems to suit you better Bleeding out the eyes (Bleeding out the eyes) Hope's left in chain suspension Holding onto lies to make the truth Behold our beloved revels In tragedy (In tragedy) Self-denying abhorence for bloodshed Behold hypocrite Those who run will be burned (4x) Devoutly wished for blinded eyes This tragedy's like light to flies This seems to suit you better Bleeding out the eyes (Bleeding out the eyes) Hope's left in chain suspension Holding onto lies to make the truth Devoutly wished for blinded eyes This tragedy's like light to flies This seems to suit you better Bleeding out the eyes (Bleeding out the eyes) Hope's left in chain suspension Holding onto lies to make the truth (2x)
@rokaletaalv10 жыл бұрын
screams and clean vocals, I love TRIVIUM!
@vaporalley910410 жыл бұрын
all albums included at that
@nathanrocks25628 жыл бұрын
Ascendancy is one of my favorite metal albums. And I think Travis Smith is one the best drummers
@TriggerFingerRC6 жыл бұрын
Nathan Walker jordan mancino of as i lay dying is super good and crazy clean when performing live.
@MrKieranthompson2 жыл бұрын
Not dissing travis but this is not his best performance, the double kicks are very unclean and didn’t really feel like he got control over them. The ascendancy cut is much better
@YukonCorneliusMJH5 жыл бұрын
I feel so old. I listened to this before smart phones
@latinomint12 жыл бұрын
Trivium is godlike. Their composition, and everything...Just amazing. Music for the gods.
@adamnunley38464 жыл бұрын
I’ve been listening to Trivium since Ember. I literally love every song they have produced. This is still my favorite song of all time, probably because of nostalgia, but regardless I always find myself coming back to watch this video. 🤘🏼🤘🏼
@slowbro1739 жыл бұрын
Never thought that the sims 2 would introduce me to one of my favorite metal bands. Would always play this song at parties and have everyone dance lol
@dante46974 жыл бұрын
March 2020 Quarantine listening to Ascendancy. My neighbors are also listening to Ascendancy in their Quarantine 🤘😆
@davidbranthwaite444 жыл бұрын
Best comment ive read during this pandemic ❤️ Rock the fuck on! 🤘😎🤘
@h3r3si434 жыл бұрын
Ascendancy were by far their best album ever written
@robbob37174 жыл бұрын
@@h3r3si43 Shogun was their best album. Ascendancy close second.
@stigmurder994 жыл бұрын
@@robbob3717 gtfo
@The_JustJoshing4 жыл бұрын
rob bob they are tied imo. Ascendancy has a slight edge
@jakesnap914 жыл бұрын
Man the evolution of this band is amazing. His screams now are so much more healthier. This band is legendary
@lej788 ай бұрын
My friend Ivan introduced me this rock band in 2005. 😂🤘 one of my top favorite rock bands trivium keep making good music trivium.
@alejandrorestrepo21423 жыл бұрын
Trivium has not released a bad album in 15 years. what a legends . Still banging this today
@lordzroverz19618 жыл бұрын
Best Album of Trivium
@OperationMegalodon2 жыл бұрын
This was my first metalcore song! Absolute classic
@greyoga1292 жыл бұрын
Same here
@иваниванов-ъ6м4пАй бұрын
С хуяли это металкор?
@nicholashorton55667 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest metal songs ever. I remember hearing/seeing it on a Metal Hammer DVD. The solos are perfect, the structure is amazing. Just blew me away.
@3dgar7eandro Жыл бұрын
Man that voice really will most probably resonates through history!!!!
@floridianthrasher54264 жыл бұрын
R.i.p Brent young
@maciejkozerski410310 жыл бұрын
this was the best Trivium that came out and should have stayed the same, one of the greatest songs I listened to when they first dropped
@JoeyDeeTV4 жыл бұрын
RIP Brent Young 🙏🏻🖤
@carstibarsti2088 жыл бұрын
Best Trivium song.
@alexmack65478 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@Char3v8 жыл бұрын
+Carsti Barsti you didn't listen to ember to inferno album dude!
@HotRoute77 жыл бұрын
Easy now, that's a never ending debate
@carstibarsti2087 жыл бұрын
Almost.. All that Remains - Six, is a hard opponent in this race.
@georgeadamz52694 жыл бұрын
I’ll never forget the first time I heard this chorus and was hooked ever since Ascendancy tour. Irving plaza NYC dec 14 2006
@MrDeth7775 жыл бұрын
One of the most beautiful melodies in the metal music...
@SuperNakednik5 күн бұрын
That solo still hits in 2024
@Edward-we9dl8 ай бұрын
Damn....Matt's vocal improved a lot since this. I didn't realise how different he sounds now before listening to this version again.
@jazxix56814 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Brent Young
@77PacerStudios8 жыл бұрын
The Sims 2!!!
@TheTechAdmin8 жыл бұрын
+77Pacer Explain ( I'm guessing it's in the game, but I want more )
@robcas94928 жыл бұрын
+Michael Antonio in game you can put it on a metal station and one of the songs is this one. but in Sim language. lol
@TheTechAdmin8 жыл бұрын
Rob Cas hahahaha
@Porter_John8 жыл бұрын
This is actually the reason I discovered trivium. Lol
@alvianrosadi89478 жыл бұрын
oh you noticed too, so i am
@TonberryGames4 жыл бұрын
Was riding my bicycle on some errands with a metalcore playlist and I actually had to pull over and find out what song this was. Favorited!
@jaypallares93509 ай бұрын
That may not sound like a gnarly story,but it is to me😂ive had a similiar experience with the human abstract
@scott14682 жыл бұрын
Trivium is the band that got through college your never too old for reliving old school songs
@SageRhys9 жыл бұрын
I'm new to this band, and I keep seeing that people are mad about the change in their sound on their new record, but I personally enjoy it more. Don't get me wrong, I like this too! And I love metalcore, but I appreciate that the singer has pushed his vocals to the next level and I think the new vocals and better writing of their songs has made them heavier, and way more technical. Those are things I greatly appreciate. RANT OVER :P
@MrPriestyman9 жыл бұрын
Yea man it's much more progressive but people are pissed off with the production just because it isn't as technical as shogun which is regarded amongst most fans as their best work all their music is subjective and fans are always in conflict about their best work I mean if anything shit like the drums have stepped up much more much tighter
@SageRhys9 жыл бұрын
Logan Priest Yeah, i know what you mean, man! :)
@MrPriestyman9 жыл бұрын
Matts vocals have definitely improved since then his cleans are one of the best in the metal community elitists would disagree but fuck it I'm gonna say that
@loganmiller78189 жыл бұрын
Sage Rhys I agree with you. What most people don't realize is how young they all were here. Matt joined Trivium when he was only twelve.
@shahbarapawaka31739 жыл бұрын
Sage Rhys It's just nostalgic values I think. Same for me actually. That's why newer fans would accept their changes better.
@Wernershnitzl9 жыл бұрын
Anybody else almost didn't recognize Corey without his beard? Edit: whoa I forgot I made this comment 5 years ago
@the_don-r3l6 жыл бұрын
Zachary Werner Me
@the_don-r3l6 жыл бұрын
Zachary Werner And he look so different
@xXxThelegend27xXx5 жыл бұрын
Corey has a beard??
@jesseling66725 жыл бұрын
@@xXxThelegend27xXx Corey _is_ the beard.
@AlexBaillie4 жыл бұрын
I didn't recognize him without the hundred pounds that he's gained since then
@chewymoviereviews49703 жыл бұрын
I remember really loving the singing of Trivium which stood out from like Poison the well to me. Trivium was a true gem.
@NiallStenson12 жыл бұрын
Matt's rocking a beatles style here, with the strap up so high! lol
@Amexc3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@danielhayes36073 жыл бұрын
Have you even seen the Beatles?
@AnthonyTLKR3 жыл бұрын
The reason for doing so is because it makes it easier to complete more technical parts with little to no errors. Wearing your strap super low is pretty pointless
@CharlesA.3 жыл бұрын
@@AnthonyTLKR exactly what i was about to say man. Wearing the strap too low just makes it harder to position your hands correctly.. unless you're like alexi laiho
@MarkyPaligs3 жыл бұрын
@@AnthonyTLKR 100% correct. I've played for 2 years with low positioned guitar, it just makes you look cool. Played for 5 more years and I was able to do impossible things on high strap that you cannot do on the other.
@santama666 Жыл бұрын
2023 this song always bring me beautifull adulthood memories :')
@AdrianaGonzalez-uy3fc2 жыл бұрын
13 years after still one of the bests 😍
@NamikazeBiscocho4 жыл бұрын
RIP Brent :(
@ajeIzrulez10 жыл бұрын
People, the version of the song used in the video is the demo, that's why it sounds different. Woulda been better if it was the Ascendancy version for sure, though.
@matthewbezzina78018 жыл бұрын
My favourite song of Trivium.
@emmanuelagudo49185 ай бұрын
The convergence and divergence of musical details @1:35~3:02 is so underrated, from the flow. It is quite unbelievable how an inspiration can be stretched marginally speaking. I am glad we had tools today that can visualize this chord progression.
@retronatorYT4 жыл бұрын
This still hardcore in 2020! Can’t wait for new album!
@MrDeth7776 жыл бұрын
la cancion mas hermosa de trivium... si te conectas, te puede hacer llorar y sentir gloria
@liamsmith48724 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Brent! Such an amazing song!!
@seanbailey420910 жыл бұрын
LOVE this song
@chrisk5437 Жыл бұрын
2023 and this band is still crushing it 🤘🏼
@affinity4disobedience10 ай бұрын
One of the most underrated metal classics of all time. What a powerful, powerful piece of art!
@iTzJeSsE084 жыл бұрын
RIP Brent!!!
@yokafliction6 жыл бұрын
One of the best solos in metal imo
@shloksharma66767 жыл бұрын
I love the clean vocals wow... Amazing
@jerryknuckles736 Жыл бұрын
RIP Matt's vocal cords. I miss these fucking screams.
@colmbrazier6483 Жыл бұрын
I was extremely lucky to see Trivium on the Ascendency tour 2005 and I swear it was insane. The Rain video was the concert I was at 🤪
@spudfella4937 Жыл бұрын
Saw him a couple of weeks ago in Manchester at the Victoria Warehouse and he sounded good to me.
@DimiusG Жыл бұрын
@@spudfella4937 He still kills it, he just approaches his vocals from a well-trained and professional manner now, especially to preserve his voice. I got to see them for the first time live back when they touring Shogun. His screams were beastly, but as the man himself said, he had no idea what the fuck he was doing and ended up destroying his voice. He took time to heal his voice and get proper vocal training while they did the Vengeance Falls and Silence in the Snow album where Corey did most the screams. Nowadays, Matt is back to doing both with Corey doing backing screams and Paolo doing backing cleans 🤘
@ergile172 Жыл бұрын
@@DimiusG I'm happy that he's learnt to shield his vocal chords, but there's definitely something special to those raw, throat-tearing screams. You can tell someone's messing up their throat cause' you still hear a bit of their underlying talking-voice character in the scream. I hope no vocalist actually thinks it's worth it to damage their voice permanently, but I can definitely appreciate the pain that Matt put himself through to produce these vocals.
@MrDillon08 Жыл бұрын
@@ergile172lucky for us on records he still uses the old screaming technique just not live
@DanielSmith-jb9yr6 жыл бұрын
This was the first Trivium song I heard in 2006 and in 2018 still holds a special place inside
@angoovaiphei1612 Жыл бұрын
Fav Trivium song
@alexinhoreis_22 Жыл бұрын
Isso sim q é música pra treinar, chega dá até motivação!!!💪🏾
@022rty8 жыл бұрын
I love the way this was filmed
@crisrobles34258 жыл бұрын
artur cardoso me too
@RicardoGonzalez-ke2pn Жыл бұрын
Los ví el domingo en el knosfet chile Espectaculares,la cagaron sin palabras Suenan muy bien en vivo ,son todo unos profesionales ,y tocan igual Matt tiene la misma voz en vivo Sin duda una joya de banda
@xyclonX9393 Жыл бұрын
Muy buena banda y subvalorada además.
@pesadilla41103 жыл бұрын
I still love it
@guitarkoala54 жыл бұрын
This was the video and song that got me into Trivium. Over a decade later, this band still kicks ass. Thank you, Trivium 🤘
@The_Crooked_Path9 жыл бұрын
Young Corey looks like he would sing cleans. New Corey, not so much
@myztklk3v9 жыл бұрын
the album version of this song is so much better.
@rockercas9 жыл бұрын
+myztklk3v ofcourse, why would you give a better version of a song for free but charge people ~10 bucks for a shitty version and some other songs?
@Bukku19 жыл бұрын
+myztklk3v I actually prefer this version, the Demo version. I think that might be because I love Ember to Inferno too much so I love the Vocals in this version lol.
@skatahman19 жыл бұрын
+Myztkl-Kev bullet for my valentines waking the demon is like this song but opposite, album version.. ass. KZbin version, incredible
@bradhuff51319 жыл бұрын
+David Wheat that depends on what version of the album you get
@teamsolospear80099 жыл бұрын
+David Wheat Bullshit, nonscream version is shit. Album version 100x better.
@metalmikebot12 жыл бұрын
The guitar playing is really solid here especially for their age at the time, but it's crazy to see how far their playing has evolved. The solos on Shogun make this look like the solo for Smells Like Teen Spirit. They've gone from prodigies to full-on virtuosos.
@vampxblade11 жыл бұрын
This song brings back so much memories...
@usernamechecksout4 жыл бұрын
Still the best Trivium song... I mean, they put out some really good ones over the years but I always come back to this one.
@ryanmorley8211 Жыл бұрын
I always crank the volume to the max and roll the windows down when driving around my town, jamming to this in my ride.
@champion6534 Жыл бұрын
I do the same😂
@fleetingspirit63595 жыл бұрын
Gracias a este grupo, pude darme cuenta lo hermoso y profundo que es el metal!
@israelzu23433 жыл бұрын
El metalcore tambien es mi genero favorito
@ShawnSig10 жыл бұрын
Corey's epic solo ftw!
@jeffdellmann75889 жыл бұрын
One of my all time favorite songs!
@MrBronsen1510 жыл бұрын
Bleeding out the ass. Cannot be unheard.
@11252310 жыл бұрын
you deserve more likes
@gabejiminez554210 жыл бұрын
you deserve a raise
@GoDSenTDEth6 жыл бұрын
Bleeding out the eyes lol
@tnmobilenan80464 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Brent Young
@Breakoutstar94 Жыл бұрын
heard this song on sims2 for the first time haven't looked back since
@hyokaryoka Жыл бұрын
Hands down their best video.
@black_sunrise10363 жыл бұрын
Thanks for keeping metal alive! You guys are such an inspiration!
@Spunerful11 жыл бұрын
AMO ESTA ROLA!!
@VGOM20002 жыл бұрын
Ih ala
@Eduardopbs1 Жыл бұрын
Lá ele infinitamente kkkk
@front-row-freak2 жыл бұрын
Workout Playlist Must
@rul3xpmp4 жыл бұрын
RIP BRENT YOUNG
@devinsinclair5254 Жыл бұрын
One of the best songs ever wrote
@Quikkz_Haste Жыл бұрын
Just saw him for the second time, it’s been 18 years since I first saw him, his voice aged like fine wine ❤ so fucking good. ❤
@Alexroberts66610 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was 12 I saw this music vidoe/song and I laughed so hard at the screaming because I had never heard that kind of singing before but within half a year trivium were my favourite band, and I couldn't wait for their new album to come out (the crusade) but I was a bit disappointed in it, but I was constantly going to get disappointed after ascendancy because ascendancy was too good - nothing they make will ever be as good as it
@GetScaredGaming10 жыл бұрын
True, but everything they have is still amazing!
@ensioisto94210 жыл бұрын
Don't you think Shogun was as good as this?
@Alexroberts66610 жыл бұрын
Salih Suljic hell no
@666-r7b1c10 жыл бұрын
Matt's screaming face. Priceless. xD
@Tpike77710 жыл бұрын
You got that right. Favorite album period.
@CharlieJ25887 жыл бұрын
Matts playing his dads black Les Paul guitar just go to show how little endorsements they probably had back then cause now he has his own signature 🙂👍🏼
@BJVA8510 жыл бұрын
Smokin Aces!
@shuralmehki3 жыл бұрын
Travis Smith's best drum work right here.
@robbiebordeaux54116 жыл бұрын
Literally the song that got me into this band... I remember picking up a quick demo clip on xbox 360, basically 8 years ago, and contemplating the couple bucks for the full vid... Glad I did, haven't looked back and keep love the music since.
@davidmendez32144 жыл бұрын
Rip brent young
@maniacminerva10 жыл бұрын
I don't know about you, but Matt reminds me of Joseph Gordon Levitt :/
@MrHardcorepuppy8910 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree.
@maniacminerva10 жыл бұрын
;)
@MRDeadfamily10 жыл бұрын
Joseph Gordon Lewitt reminds me of Matt
@zigza00710 жыл бұрын
...just want to clarify it's Levitt
@maniacminerva10 жыл бұрын
Brett Dunbar typo fixed, ty !
@ervingarcia8748 жыл бұрын
I really like this version.
@amandaross95368 жыл бұрын
Me too!!
@codyjewell14607 жыл бұрын
Matt's clean vocals in the chorus are my favorite part of this song.
@IndieTimmie3 жыл бұрын
I first heard this on the xbox 360 when you could buy music videos. One of my favorite bands to this day. Hard to believe Matt was 14 here.
@yuditfirmansyah39482 жыл бұрын
18 bro
@iluvtacoz1232 жыл бұрын
Matt was 17 or 18
@hernindio994 жыл бұрын
RIP Brent Young
@angelicasanchez77622 жыл бұрын
Los mejores temas del puto mundo saludos desde chile pa todas las personas ke saben apreciar la buena musica
@colstonkayce531210 жыл бұрын
What an awesome solid track...
@koltenhodge23307 жыл бұрын
2017 and still one of the most beautiful bands ever
@smorgasborgas9 жыл бұрын
I still prefer the Ascendancy version. This version seems more like a demo.
@hernindio999 жыл бұрын
+Ryan King and matt's voice seems like an angry teenager
@SynysterGatesJr66618 жыл бұрын
That's because this version is a demo version.
@thatsacey8 жыл бұрын
+Ignatius Hernindio Dwi Ananto that would be because he was a teenager when it was recorded.
@helterskelly18934 жыл бұрын
It was a demo. This was when Roadrunner asked them for some new material to see if they would be suitable for their label and they came up with this and a couple other songs AND filmed this music video to really impress Roadrunner. They were almost instantly asked to join the label when Roadrunner saw all this
@terciocanuto41635 жыл бұрын
Behold our beloved revels In tragedy (in tragedy) Self-denying avarice for bloodshed Behold hypocrite Those who run will be burned Those who run will be burned Those who run will be burned Those who run will be burned Devoutly wished for blinded eyes This tragedy's like light to the flies This seems to suit you better Bleeding out the eyes Hope's left in chain suspension Holding onto lies, to make the truth