Which Drift Motor is Right For You? 10.5T vs 13.5T | TESTED for RWD RC Drifting

[@mattbrc]

Your drift videos have been great to help new guys get in to the hobby. I regularly share them with new guys at my local club and there finding them really useful. Keep up the work.👍

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you for that! I really appreciate it!

[@michaelortiz7804]

May I ask what brand of ESC is good to use for drift rc…..

[@robinkesterlives]

@@michaelortiz7804 kzbin.info/www/bejne/goG5imuNbJmfa8U He talked about the 10BL120 here and it's what I ended up getting because of him - def a recommend for the budget minded.

[@robertstoner728]

Just got back into rc after 15+ years. Your videos have been great info.

[@RoadsideRC]

Awesome! Glad to help!

[@strippedgears82]

I have ran the gambit 11.5t, 13.5t and 10.5t. Running a 10.5t now and have made the switch on one chassis to a drift specific motor for yokomo sooo smooth 😎.. another banger vid keep it going

[@RoadsideRC]

That is awesome! Thanks for the feedback!

[@johnjohncrisostomo6152]

Troy awesome demonstration especially for beginners and guys that are being wise with their RC drift build budget. I started many moons ago with a 13.5T but now I am using a 8.5T motor from Onisiki with a 18T pinion on a 90T 48P Spur gear supported with a Acuvance XARVIS XX esc w/built in fan with some minor boost and turbo adjustment tweaked into the esc. Your right, it is really about tuning and mastering your trigger control. It is so fun, I took your advice putting touring tires on a drift car from one of your videos and that took the RC drift experience to a whole new level. I made sure I used that car in a totally open area using cones for when to turn and drift. At high speed I did not want to destroy the body shell on that car. I truly enjoy my Sakura D5 Auper 5 Pro, making my RC drift experience very memorable and funner. Keep bringing the knowledge it really helps the RC drift community, mostly for newbie’s. Excellent review brotha!!!!!!

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! Glad you found the touring cars to be fun. Don't hear of folks using 8.5t very often. Seems many places restrict to 10.5T as the lowest.

[@johnjohncrisostomo6152]

@@RoadsideRC like I said in one of your other videos, when I was in Japan I experienced a whole new level of drifting especially the outdoor drifting the Japanese were using larger spur and pinion gears, different tires and lower engine turns as well. The guys here in Texas were surprise to see me use a lower Motor turn but it’s because of driving conditions and surface but on indoor or carport tracks I stay with a 10.5 T motor. I like to test the water and try new things especially if it’s out of the norm.

[@OMGRC]

I started out back in June 2021 with 13.5 and now trying 10.5 to see how that works. I have 2 drift car’s Yokomo YD2RX with Hobbywing D10 13.5 (was 13.5 XERUN not drift motor) and MST RMX 2.0 kit build with 10.5 D10. Going to see how they both preform. Thank you for the awesome videos✌️

[@RoadsideRC]

Great! It really seems both can work fine, and is similar to gear ratio - there isn't a "right" answer, but just tools to cater to the size of the track you are on. Hope they work well for you!

[@OMGRC]

@@RoadsideRC Well said bro! I did up the gearing on my 13.5 setup from 19 to 25to get little more wheel speed but most times at Street Break we really don't hit into turbo or boost. Take care and hope to see more drift videos

[@killahcreations5499]

I’ve got a Sakura d5 running an absolute 1 10.5t motor set up for tight corners and asphalt and I also have a yokomo yd2 axiii with a yokomo dx1R 13.5t motor set up for competition drifting. I love both cars but I learned most on the d5/10.5 t overall since it was a little more challenging to drive putting under and oversteer into play.

[@RoadsideRC]

Interesting! Thanks for the feedback!

[@RcNickster709]

I actually have the 13.5 and as you say I am finding I could use some more of that WHEEL SPEED you talk about. So I will try that slightly larger pinion. See how THAT goes Another great video. Thanks Troy. appreciate it

[@RoadsideRC]

Happy to help! Do you have turbo/boost also? Crank the timing up on the motor?

[@DabbathaHut]

Love the videos man. You’ve been very helpful with me building my d5 pro. Been out of the tv scene for a long time so it’s nice to have the help. Mine car still isn’t perfect but getting there. Maybe someday we will cross paths at music city rc!

[@RoadsideRC]

That would be awesome to see you there!

[@DabbathaHut]

@@RoadsideRC any chance you’d be available sometime to dm? I have a few questions about tuning the d5

[@KingsRC]

I run 10.5t in all my drift cars 😊 thanks for sharing this troy! Very helpful information here!!! 👍👍👍

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes, I do also - but was really curious about the difference. Glad you liked it!

[@AKSURFS]

It’s always great to see some wonderful content, have a nice day 👍✨

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you! You too!

[@AKSURFS]

@@RoadsideRC You're welcome, you have my support here, good day my friend ✨👍😊

[@dirtdevilrcmotorsports]

I like how you said it was about wheel speed, most new guys and even some regular guys think its all about car speed and they race everyone. I have seen and driven against guys who dive bomb up the inside going into corners and crash into cars or run into the back of cars because they have too much speed. when you suggest they change the gearing in their cars to slow them down they just reply with speed is how you drift. NO ITS NOT Wheel speed is how you drift, gearing is how you drift, throttle control is how you drift, everything you said here Troy if perfect not only for beginners but also for the seasoned pro or pig headed know it all. Drifting is an art, its about being close to other cars, its about rubbing the door of the other car, its about being smooth, consistent and in control. Not bashing or crashing others out of the way, its not about whos faster of who does the most laps. When it comes to gearing just remember that going too far in either direction can have negative effects from increased motor heat and possible burnout if not caught in time. less run time because it drains the battery slower throttle response to name a few I did some checking and found that my MST RMX 2.0 is running a 9t 4000kv brushless motor with a 35a esc both from hobbywing. with the stock spur and a 22 tooth pinion for now as I have only run the car once so the chassis setup isn't right yet. My Yokomo YD2 is running the Hobbyworks 3625 which is a 4000KV motor (not sure of the turns as I cant find that info) but with a 50a esc. with the stock spur an 18 tooth pinion neither of these are sensored setups

[@RoadsideRC]

Interesting! Thanks for sharing. I need to do a sensored vs non-sensored video also. I have driven both, and typically you can feel a little difference, but not a world of difference for sure.

[@dirtdevilrcmotorsports]

@@RoadsideRC I think sensored motors tend to react better throttle and break input.

[@renoradice9034]

forreal youre vids a great help im trying to get rid of my current motor setup in my mst. more than likely going to go the 10.5 route

[@RoadsideRC]

Great! Hope you like it!

[@MrRaverion]

Cool videos. You made a great point on how much throttle. Can you video the throttle position along with the car drifting and have 4 split screens of a 10.5T and 13.5T?

[@RoadsideRC]

Interesting idea!! Unfortunately, not going to be able to do that soon. Will consider a view like that in future videos.

[@10piecemctunes89]

I started drifting with a 12t brushed motor and finally upgraded to a 10.5t sensored xr10 system from hobbywing

[@RoadsideRC]

Interesting! What were the major differences you noticed?

[@10piecemctunes89]

@@RoadsideRC I had more wheel speed with better control with the punch level turned down

[@kentnichols4743]

awesome video ,love watching you drift ,1 day I'll be that good ,thanks for all the information ,keep up the good work

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks!

[@geo2472]

That was some cool drifting right there! 👍👍

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks!

[@keithd9705]

Brilliant video really helpful!! I'm new to all this so just learning all of the ins and outs, your very skilfull by the way! Thanks for the advice in your excellent video!!

[@RoadsideRC]

Glad to help!

[@jeryjohn]

You really have to gear up the 13.5t to make an apple to apples comparison, i run a 13.5t motor on highest allowed gearing and no boost or turbo in fact i use rpm limiter on my sanwa sv d1 and throttle feel is amazing

[@RoadsideRC]

The goal was to point out the difference head-to-head, but I do also want to figure out the exact gearing difference needed to get the exact same wheelspeed. It would be interesting!

[@100RockOn]

I agree, 13.5 would need to be geared a tooth or 2 higher, and at that point it would have increased wheel speed.

[@ChevySSFTW]

You can also get a 13.5 motor that supports 3s battery to help with wheel spin.

[@RoadsideRC]

Typically, you do not want to run 3S in drift cars. Many tracks and rule sets do not allow it, so you want to set yourself up for 2S.

[@matrixrc28]

I’m a noob just started and I’m using a 7.5T from out of my truggy. On carpet drifting it’s awesome. On glossy concrete surface. It’s a challenge to use the appropriate amount of throttling. Got a 13.5T now.

[@RoadsideRC]

Nice! You will feel a major difference with the 13.5T. One other thing you can try is throttle exponential. Even with my 10.5T, I tend to run a lot of exp. I feel it helps mid-corner to keep my drifts smoother, and out of corner helps me grip up. Free to try!

[@viktoraspetraitis5826]

Nice explain.Using for Drift Brushed sport motor and Gummy Slick tires ,spining like Crazy on Asfalt,love High torq on low Rpm.Problem is motor Heat very fast

[@RoadsideRC]

Interesting! Glad you are having fun!

[@viktoraspetraitis5826]

@@RoadsideRC Thanks👍You too💪

[@LeBulbe33]

At the moment I'm using a 13.5 yokomo zero S from my RTR, but I'm going to change to an acuvance fledge 10.5 with xarvis xx esc ✅

[@RoadsideRC]

Awesome! I hope you like it.

[@LeBulbe33]

@RoadsideRC i need more speeeeeed 😅

[@tittentei7331]

Great video!

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! Hope it was helpful!

[@tittentei7331]

@@RoadsideRC It was:)

[@JAM-vu3ol]

Hi Troy, I have questions I’ve been using 10.5 t agile for awhile, now I was thinking about trying the 13.5 or even 15.5t for drift on P-tile. My question is the bigger the number on the motor equal the less spin on the tire is that right? Less spin =more traction ? Thank you 🙏

[@RoadsideRC]

You have the right idea. A much cheaper solution is to just change gearing. Switching to a smaller pinion gear is very similar to swapping to a higher turn motor....but MUCH cheaper.

[@lancewood1410]

....i just put an order for the 10.5T rocket v3 and a 10BL120 combo 3 hours ago...... for about usd87 shipped.

[@RoadsideRC]

AWESOME! Great deal right there!

[@grvtyboyRC]

Really helpful insight... Just new to drifting and about to build my first car (kit)

[@RoadsideRC]

Glad it was helpful!

[@totallyrandomuser5760]

I currently am using SpeedPassion(RIP) 3.0 10.5R motor that doesn't have much timing adjustment (-10° to 10°) but with 22 degree 350rpm boost from 13k in ESC I can almost be on the same level as others with lighter cars and more power I think I would need to improve traction in order to be as fast as them (that's what others told me) Looking forward to upgrading to Rocket V3

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks for the info! Timing is timing to some point. Whether you get it on the can, or get it through the ESC, it might not matter. I found that I started making my car lighter - I could keep up with people much easier. Give weight reduction a shot! Good luck!

[@lollipopjahari5854]

Hi troy, love your video, its amazing review, u explain it in very good understandable english..tq, just have 1 question, what does turbo and boost need for in drift? Since we use 10.5t motor, its just enough to drift in big C track..

[@RoadsideRC]

Thank you! Turbo and boost give even more wheel speed. It is useful for certain places on tracks.

[@parryhotter5575]

Interesting video. Does that mean the RTR RMX 2.0 2500kv motor is actually something like 15.5t? Couldn't find any specific information, but after looking at some kv-to-t charts, it seem to place the motor in that area.

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes, that is a rough guess on turns for it. Since it is a non-sensored setup, my guess is they went with that spec to help with control.

[@parryhotter5575]

@@RoadsideRC Thanks for the explanation. It was something I hadn't even taken into consideration before watching this video.

[@carlostorres-rr1ns]

Hi Troy, I would like to ask What tire did you use on your garage? I’m looking for a bit stronger tire so can last long,mine can’t stay longer. Thanks 🙏

[@RoadsideRC]

I use various tires. I would recommend Yokomo DRA. amzn.to/3KdTAcf

[@brianarredondo3251]

I run a 13.5 onsinki and onsinki ESC with 20° of boost on my d5 and a 10.5 yokomo T type and a OMG ESC with 20° of boost on my sx3 I love them both ... If you ever come to Texas you need to come check out my indoor RC drift track called RC drift dojo in corpus Christi Texas

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! I would love to check your track out!

[@joserifaie]

Great video really ,am running a hobby wing 13.5 turn motor and am a new to drifting and already feel the need for more wheel speed i feel the big c figure is so demanding for that 10.5 turn and the 13.5 feels so slow btw am on 27 tooth pinion and 80 spur on a rmx 2.0s and i think this is the biggest pinion that goes on it without modifying the motor mount

[@RoadsideRC]

Wow! A 27T pinion! Have you put any timing into the system either from the ESC or motor? It is amazing the extra wheelspeed you get from that. In this video, I run 40* on the motor, plus 10* turbo and 10* boost

[@sn95_blacksheep82]

Hey I’m running a juststock combo is there anyway of getting more wheel speed out of it or do I need to upgrade esc

[@RoadsideRC]

Sure! Just put a larger pinion on it. Simple!

[@MasonAK.1]

I don't have a drift car yet, but I do have an older Traxxas Slash with a 15T... I was thinking of sacrificing it's electronics to use on a drift car kit just to save some money until I got more comfortable with the car. What would be a good beginner car to grow with? I'd like to go Yokomo but I'm also considering MST

[@RoadsideRC]

The easiest and cheapest way to get properly into RWD drifting is to purchase the MST RMX2.0 RTR. Building a RWD drift car is not like building some other forms of RC, and I find more often than not, people cut corners and mess up the build of the kit and install of the components to where the car drives very poorly. Those folks then determine that RWD drifting sucks and sell their car. Do you have a drift track near you? Are there others around who are driving RWD drift cars? If so, then it might be a good idea to try to build a kit. You will be able to lean on this group of folks to help make sure you are setup correctly. If not, I highly suggest you purchase the RTR. As for which one to pick -- the answer above really answers it. If there are folks around you with them, then get the same kit they have. It will help a lot with troubleshooting and setup tips.

[@aeromech2155]

Never owned a drift car and looking to get into it. Been looking hard at a MST RMX 2.5 but I have a traxxas slash with the 3500kv vxl motor (13.5 turn) and esc in it. So now I’m thinking of building the MRX GT V1.5 and just using the guts from my old Slash to get a rig going. I like the RMX but I’m sure that I will want to do a bunch of upgrades to it later, so building the GT would save me money in the long run. The motor and esc are waterproof and meant for bashing around so I figure they will live happily in a drift car with a couple of fans to help keep them cool. A gyro and good steering servo is pretty much all I’ll need after that and I should be in business. Does this sound like a viable plan?

[@RoadsideRC]

Sorry for the delayed response - wanted to get in front of a computer so I could type a proper response. 1) The MRX GT is a fun chassis - but not one that has proven to be a great performer. The RMX platform has a lot more support and knowledge about how to tune it. Is there a specific reason why you are focus on MST chassis? 2) Honestly speaking - many folks get themselves in trouble trying to re-use basher components in drifting. Can it WORK? Sure - it can get you started. However it is almost a waste of time in the long run. 3) If using your VXL setup helps you put $$$ towards a good gyro and servo - then that is a good idea to get started. Gyro and servo are very important. 4) With a kit, you will also need wheels, tires, body, and a GOOD controller. This is also a place that frequently trips up new builders. They attempt to re-use a controller that does not work well with drift electronics. Honestly speaking - for 99% of folks trying to get into drifting for the first time, getting one of the RTRs available on the market now is a better choice than building. The only reason I suggest new folks to start with a kit is if they have a good support group (like a track) near them to help tune the car.

[@aeromech2155]

Wicked, thanks for the help. Kinda figured that would be the answer but just wanted to double check. My buddy’s RMX 2.5 is amazing, just wanted to make sure that the saying of “buy your second car not the first one” didn’t apply here.

[@aeromech2155]

⁠@@RoadsideRCand btw I’m not locked completely on the MST. Have watched as many comparisons as possible between the MST and the Yokomo. They both have their pros and cons, just seems like the MST beat out the Yokomo.

[@RoadsideRC]

@@aeromech2155 My personal experience, having owned multiple MST, Yokomo, and the Redcat RDS....is that the MST is the lowest on my list.

[@aeromech2155]

@@RoadsideRC What are your feeling on the ReveD RDX and Usukani NGE se?

[@ripmax333]

Please correct me If I'm wrong, So I'm also new to drifting and I'm using a 10.5T motor, I'm not very precise with the throttle finger ( sometimes I'm a bit of trigger happy so the back end just spins way out) so would I benefit if I go with a larger pinion so I can make the wheel spin more controllable?

[@RoadsideRC]

It is actually the other way around. You would want to run a smaller pinion to make it more controllable. Smaller pinion = less wheel speed.

[@josephfelix-casillas6461]

Could I possibly use my stock traxxas 4tec 2.0 10turn Velineon Brushless motor and esc on a sakura d5 to start off atleast until I get the budget for a better drifting motor and esc? Thats all im missing for my build right now if you don't recommend me doing that ill definitely wait until next paycheck for sure not trying ruin a drift car I haven't even tested out yet 😅

[@RoadsideRC]

That will get you started!

[@90Kenny]

I know sensored motors are recommended but could you make a comparison for drifting sensored vs sensorless? I'm still saving up for a sensored and just using a sensorless motor I have laying around.

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes! I should do that video. As an example, the MST RTR is non-sensored. Sensored is better, but you are 100% able to drift without it.

[@90Kenny]

@@RoadsideRC awesome thank you! That would be super informative 👍

[@Neg4Cubing]

Definitely would be keen to see sensored vs sensorless from the drift perspective…

[@hobbykind4433]

😮😮😮😮😮The big C 👌🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! It is a good pattern.

[@mikepearce3061]

I have just bought the 10.5t skyrc ares with adjustable timing what do you reccomded on the timing setting for drifting?

[@RoadsideRC]

I usually start at 30* timing on the motor.

[@JohnnyTsunami_]

How do I choose a motor in general? What’s the difference in getting a Syrpass v3 or v5 drift vs the HW D10? I’m deciding what motor to go with a XR10 Stock Spec w a mid budget.

[@RoadsideRC]

Here is the good news: in rc drifting, the motor is about one of the least important items. I have had just as good of performance out of budget motors vs expensive ones. Get something brushless, sensored, with adjustable timing on the can. As long as it checks those boxes, you will be fine.

[@JohnnyTsunami_]

@@RoadsideRC that’s great to hear! Thank you for your reply :) you’re the man

[@JohnnyTsunami_]

@@RoadsideRC would you say a 8.5T motor is too much power for a drift car? I typically see either 10.5T or 13.5T being used

[@RoadsideRC]

@@JohnnyTsunami_ Yes, 8.5T would be hard to control. Also, some groups do not allow a lower than 10.5T.

[@PROGAMER-dw6ty]

So the higher the slower thanks for all this info ill be getting the 10.5t for my yokoma rtr build

[@RoadsideRC]

Glad to help! Good luck with the build!

[@nieko3038]

So 13 for driftnoobs like me. What about pinion and spur? Can you go from say a 23t to a 13t motor and leave the gearing? So many factors involved. It keeps the brain occupied. Brushed 540 with 60a esc. I read that all matters too. And carpet.

[@RoadsideRC]

Hi there! This is MUCH easier than the internet folks make it out to be. There is no one "correct" gearing. It all depends on the wheel speed needed for a specific track. This is mostly driven by layout and the size of the track. Use a base setup, then experiment with a few different pinions to feel the difference.

[@nieko3038]

@@RoadsideRC I’ll just start with what I have. Ordered a few pinions. Cheers

[@sharptechnique7883]

When you install the motor do you have to take the gear or cog wheel off the stock motor or do you have to buy these separate? Also what are those pins you can buy for the ends for the ESC to not solder directly and have more of a plug and play set up?

[@RoadsideRC]

The gear on the original motor can be swapped over quite easily. That gear is called a pinion gear. They can also be purchased separately, and with different teeth counts to change the gear ratio. I'm not exactly sure which pins you are talking about - but I do highly suggest learning to solder for this hobby.

[@sharptechnique7883]

@@RoadsideRC I guess I just see people with gold pins on the motors and it looks like they are not soldered on but just placed inside and tightened down maybe?

[@RoadsideRC]

@sharptechnique7883 Those connectors still need to be soldered on. Don't worry, soldering is not hard and really helps you in this hobby. Here is an example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/horCdZmCjdFparM

[@sharptechnique7883]

@@RoadsideRC any chance you can point me to some connectors? Or is it wire soldered directly to motor tabs?

[@RoadsideRC]

@@sharptechnique7883 Solder directly to the motor is the easiest way.

[@davidng5263]

Hi good video just as I needed. May I know what is the spec of the servo?

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! This is my go-to servo: www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=4b85b2b7-558e-4304-89fc-54958c8f47f0&website_id=caf4cba5-8e5f-43be-93b7-934f1a36d50d&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amainhobbies.com%2Freve-d-rsst-low-digital-programmable-servo-black-rv-rs-sta%2Fp1434712

[@SeekingTheVerdants]

Hi Troy, what KV's are the 10.5 and 13.5 that you tested here? Thanks!

[@RoadsideRC]

I don't remember specifically. The manufacturer *sometimes gives a KV spec based on timing.

[@edsadventures3575]

I have the Rocket 10.5…. Very powerful!

[@RoadsideRC]

Nice! Glad you like it!

[@francisstockstill9764]

Team powers plutonium 10.5t! It’s better for me as the tracks that i go to are long turns that carries a lot of speed. You need that rpm so you can closer to the guy in front.

[@RoadsideRC]

Wheels speed certainly matters based on the size of the track - I agree! I will need to research the Team Powers brand - haven't heard of them before.

[@earlseptember6042]

Thx for yet another awesome video Troy, all the way from South Africa. I myself run a 10.5 Hobbywing Bandit. What gearing do you run with your preferred setup? Keep them videos coming bro 🤜🏾🤛🏻

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks Earl! There is no specific gearing you need to run. Try a few different pinions to see how the wheelspeed impacts your ability to initiate and hold a solid drift.

[@earlseptember6042]

@@RoadsideRC thx for the quick feedback Troy. I will definitely try out a few. Just 1 last question, do you think the D5 can hang with the more expensive chassis at competition level? If so with the help of hop-ups, what would you go for?

[@RoadsideRC]

Sure! I frequently drift with YD SXIII chassis using my Sakura. Most of this comes down to a proper setup and driver skill. Get your car lightweight, and have good electronics...and A LOT of practice. Don't worry about how much $$$ the other person has spent.

[@earlseptember6042]

@@RoadsideRC now that's music to my ears. I'll definitely take note of that and simply just get my car running with the expensive guys

[@integrityrc7356]

Awesome. What platform would you use a 17.5T

[@RoadsideRC]

17.5T is common for off-road buggy racing.

[@rm4213]

Do you recommend to upgrade the spur gear when upgrading the motor?

[@RoadsideRC]

Nope. I have never had an issue with a drift car spur gear. We don't get enough traction to stress the gear.

[@rm4213]

@@RoadsideRC just curious because the spur gear is plastic and motor pinion is metal

[@joaquinrobles2474]

Might be a silly question but, what type of motor brand do you run in your rc drift car. Thanks 👍

[@RoadsideRC]

I am currently running the 10.5T version of this one: www.avantlink.com/click.php?tt=el&merchant_id=4b85b2b7-558e-4304-89fc-54958c8f47f0&website_id=caf4cba5-8e5f-43be-93b7-934f1a36d50d&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amainhobbies.com%2Freve-d-absolute1-brushless-motor-13.5t-black-rv-rm-a135%2Fp1407518 But ran this one for years with good results: amzn.to/3y04PQR However, there are multiple folks at our local spot running the motors I showed in this video with good results.

[@joaquinrobles2474]

@@RoadsideRC Great! 👍👍

[@dawber2111]

could you do the 10.5 surpass motor on the xr10 vs a higher brand 10.5 on same esc and esc settings

[@RoadsideRC]

Based on what I saw with this test, kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooakqKGAn793gpo I don't think there will be much of a difference.

[@LegendsPizzaCo]

You run a 10.5 on the XR10 Pro 80 amp esc without any issues?

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes. Zero issues for years.

[@Bluespade115]

Have you by chance tried the Oniski Shura and Kikou motors?

[@RoadsideRC]

I have not, sorry.

[@chadg6874]

Completely inefficient, terrible motor. Battery drains 4 times faster than my Yokomo DX1.. motor gets hot fast. I'd only get one if it was sold for $20

[@integrityrc7356]

Do a 17.5 test please

[@RoadsideRC]

I just might!

[@Scramblerkidd]

What can we expect in battery life between the two?

[@RoadsideRC]

Basically no difference. How you drive will be a much bigger influence.

[@rm4213]

Hey troy do you know the difference between the 10.5t spec vs 10.5t modified of this motor?

[@RoadsideRC]

I do not - sorry.

[@rm4213]

@@RoadsideRC ok which ones were in the video?

[@RoadsideRC]

@rm4213 Both modified. After looking, it *should be that spec is not adjustable timing and modified allows it. Go modified.

[@rm4213]

@@RoadsideRC Awesome thanks man I appreciate the info I was trying to figure it out

[@MrZbrutalis]

i used to run a 3.5t in my sakura d3 never had torque issues.

[@RoadsideRC]

That is wild!

[@Zaggerton]

Running a RêveD Mc1 chassis w Acuvance RAD esc, Acuvance Agile 10.5 w upgraded rotor, RêveD Servo, and RêveD Revox Gyro..

[@RoadsideRC]

Sounds like a good setup!

[@rm4213]

How do these brands compare to the Yokomo dx1r being that those are $40 range and the Yokomo is $100+

[@RoadsideRC]

Here is a good example for you: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooakqKGAn793gpo I fully believe that motors are the least important part of an RC drift car.

[@rm4213]

@@RoadsideRC interesting I'm just learning about all upgrades to I'm familiar when I decide to upgrade

[@kilner79]

10.5 for carpet with a low magnet force and a high torq high turn for real slick conditions i find a high rpm on the motor and more torq will increase traction mayb not much but in slipery surface it gives you teh edge also the gyroscopic effects of the fast spinning motor can also ain in stability feel of teh car than say a 10.5 with no boost or turbo that you are just tickling and the wheel speed is just way to high even over 20% thorttle and anything after that you start loosing more and more traction on slippery but on carpet higher wheel speed = more friction = tyres get warm and stick and give loads of grip

[@RoadsideRC]

Interesting! Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@jamiewellman6986]

Which one would you use for drag car,I'm running with drk ESC

[@RoadsideRC]

Neither - I believe a lot of folks in the drag world are using motors in the 4.5T range.

[@jamiewellman6986]

@@RoadsideRC they still use 10.5 or 13.5 in the 4.5 I was just looking at that on eBay then I was researching and came across this video,my 4.0 is locking down until you manually turn it then it goes again and I can't figure out if you can take it apart to replace bearings,it a fantom v.2 pro drag 4.0 motor not sure what's in the internals

[@bisdaktvofficial1590]

what type camera you use on the side on your car

[@RoadsideRC]

Hi! It is this one: amzn.to/3p1XCOr

[@bisdaktvofficial1590]

thank you my friend

[@sergheiperusenco6534]

do you know how to change the rotation of motor?

[@RoadsideRC]

If you are running sensored, then you need to change the rotation in the ESC. Not all ESCs allow this.

[@seans.9340]

I like your videos. I don't even drift. I would like to. Interesting. It's just more money i should not spend. Single sad of two younger boys 👦 👦. I do give thumbs up to help support you. Thanks bud.

[@RoadsideRC]

I understand that! Stay tuned - I have been thinking about doing a drift car build + giveaway!

[@sherwinsagario5351]

Im new hir sir... what is best to buy? 10.5T or 13.5T?? For beginners like me?

[@RoadsideRC]

That is exactly what this video is about!

[@idleryder1118]

would you know anything about boost, and if so can we get a video??

[@RoadsideRC]

Sure! What are you looking to know about it?

[@idleryder1118]

@@RoadsideRC basically pros/ cons and how to set it up. Thank you!

[@joealbuquerque5557]

Oi qual você recomenda pra iniciar ?

[@RoadsideRC]

Either can work.

[@heryvallancourt6623]

merci beaucoup pour votre test , personnellement, j'ai la meme impression et je pense tester ces different moteur avec differents rapport de pignon / couronne.

[@RoadsideRC]

Très bonne idée !

[@salutbonjour123]

​@@RoadsideRCno way you know french Troy 😂

[@RoadsideRC]

@salutbonjour123 Nope! But Google translate does! :)

[@boosieboo497]

Is there a certain FDR you look for?

[@RoadsideRC]

Nope - there is no "right" FDR. It is variable based on the size of the track.

[@billylim127]

My method of choosing my motor: Surface - Slippery or Grippy Gearing - High or Low ESC - Boost and Turbo or Nil Price - Cheap or Expensive Support from local hobby store - Yes or No

[@RoadsideRC]

Interesting! Which of those choices drives you to which motor?

[@billylim127]

Slippery surface (Lesser wheelspin to gain maximum traction) - 13.5T - Lower final drive ratio (9-10 ish) - Non Boost and Turbo *Ignore car and transmitter setup

[@joealbuquerque5557]

Motor de 8.5 serve para drift?

[@RoadsideRC]

8.5 motor pode ser bom. Mas algumas regras não permitem isso para competições. Máximo 10,5

[@coryfowler8815]

I wanna build a one ten scale drifting car but haven't done yet

[@RoadsideRC]

I'm happy to answer any specific questions you have.

[@phil488pista9]

10.5 all the way 👍

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks!

[@zeDoSauRus]

Nice test but you should gear them up to get a similar wheel speed and then test to see how that feels like

[@RoadsideRC]

I thought of that also! But really, how do I ensure that I really have the same wheelspeed with both setups?

[@B0nuspunkt]

@@RoadsideRC kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6uYYYyoqc6kp7s

[@zeDoSauRus]

@@RoadsideRC the first idea that comes to mind is to film it at manual shutter speed and framerate and compare (after the math that will tell you what gearing to use)

[@RoadsideRC]

That is fun - but I'm not building that thing! :)

[@B0nuspunkt]

@@RoadsideRC the motors should have a kv rating based on that it should be able to calculate the pinion

[@coryfowler8815]

What scale is that

[@RoadsideRC]

This is a 1:10 car.

[@billyb5057]

A most interesting experiment seems more about the control *thumbs up👍Au🌚fully watched🌞*

[@RoadsideRC]

Yes, thanks!

[@axe2211]

Shit i bought a 26t motor am new to rc drift lol is it to big?

[@RoadsideRC]

That is certainly not what you want. It will be really slow. If you can return it, I would.

[@ajaywitney5885]

I use a 17.5 t ona yokomo yd2 e

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks! How does it work for you, and where do you drift?

[@vincelbrown328]

I like 10.5 if boost and turbo aren’t necessary for the track your running on.. in my opinion

[@RoadsideRC]

Makes sense!

[@jhiegiedelgado2949]

It can crawl?

[@RoadsideRC]

It is sensored, so should be fine.

[@slashraptor9317]

Great video Troy should try doing a budget thing for drag cars soon

[@RoadsideRC]

That is a good idea! I bet folks would really dig into it.

[@rikjansen3314]

I’m just starting in drifting I have a 10.5 motor wats a good drift kit to start off with

[@RoadsideRC]

Here is all the info you need: kzbin.info/www/bejne/al67fHmlhJKZhZI

[@MomentumChase2023]

WhT size pinion do you recommend going to for the 13.5?

[@RoadsideRC]

There is no "right" pinion. You must gear your car for the wheelspeed you need for the size of your track.

[@jcstnn13]

How's it going I like watching your channel because you you're just like me but you're more knowledgeable in this particular field and I'm hoping you can help me with this question. Now I know you familiar with the wltoys 969 and their escs well I have two of them and they both linked to one of the new style wltoys controller with the knobs and in my 1/16 scale chassis mounted an additional motor on the other side of the shaft and they both spent very smoothly so when I turn on one ESC it leads to the controller when I turn on the second one it links to the controller so you have to separate speed controllers the motors aren't fighting each other do I need to do anything else are you know at first those batteries they give you are the 400 milliamps I'm using a 1200 milliamp 7.4 volt on each one do I need to keep the power separate or combine them I guess that's what I'm asking I took it out once and it didn't seem like it lasted very long but then again it still looked cool to have both of the motors and I happen to have both of the ESC so anyways any answer would be greatly appreciated keep up the cool shows like your content.

[@RoadsideRC]

Interesting setup you have there. You have added a lot of torque and weight to the system - but unless it is geared differently, it will not actually reach any higher speeds. It should pull through A LOT of tall grass, etc without issue though! Since you are running all of those electronics, it will pull the battery down fast. But I bet it was fun while it lasted! :)

[@mohawkrcchannel5489]

Well u no what i have. but for the folks , k have a 40$ turnigy trackstar 9.5 t with about 40 degrees of timing slsmmed in it

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks!

[@zerofighter_00]

Im using 10.5t OMG epic 2 motor

[@RoadsideRC]

I have heard good things about them!

[@LesAdventuresdeschtisNomade]

😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

[@RoadsideRC]

Thanks!

[@harleycarter3982]

Both cars have 10.5s

[@RoadsideRC]

That is the go-to!

[@davidisenhower2821]

SkyRc motors sux anyways.

[@RoadsideRC]

They have done well for me.