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Welcome to our first BATTLE here at Roads Untraveled! Today on the show, we put Marcus' 1994 Toyota MR2 GT-S up against Alex's 1986 Toyota MR2 Sherwood Edition to see which is the better "driver's car." Seeing as a drag race would pretty much be useless here, we figured we'd just go for a spirited drive through the twisties and let the cars talk to us the way they do best. Enjoy!
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"We race because we're not allowed to go to war."

[@Bl00dwerK]

I've owned both. If I could have one of them back, I'd take my '85 every day and twice on Sunday. Nothing beats the 1st gen.

[@tidewatercreditcounseling7571]

I agree. I have a rhd 91 turbo right now and I had an 89 SC a few years ago. The 89SC was insane

[@Daniel_B79]

The AW11 reminds me more of my AE86 so I have a soft spot for the styling.

[@doomkid02]

And a mk3 supra

[@royalzak2670]

doesn't it have the same engine too?

[@atmaforger1883]

Actually thats mr ae86

[@titusmiller5236]

@@royalzak2670 yes

[@apol8245]

@@royalzak2670 yep

[@anatolybaklanov6069]

sw20 - my favorite mr2, but w11 has such nostalgic 80's atmosphere..

[@MzRtS12]

the AW11 Supercharged would be a better comparison 🤔

[@RoadsUntraveled]

It would've technically been a more accurate comparison, yes! Alex is my friend though and his car is pretty cool :D So this is how this video came to life :D

[@gottarantulas6612]

That would be the fairer shootout.

[@Saltfactorynz]

Yep, i own a 87 SC and its my life. Sad day was when i had to drive it back to my parents 800 kilometers away because i got a company car to drive and had nowhere to put my baby. i got to my parents place at 10 at night drove straight past their house and didn't stop for another 4 hours. i couldn't leave it. broke my heart :(

[@akuboy0109]

I have an -87 Corolla E90 3door hatchback with 4A-GZE from AW11. It is super nice car to drive.

[@terbennett]

I agree...

[@dazzanomas9418]

As a European owner of both back in the 90's, a Mk1 for 4 years and a Mk2 2.0 for 5 years i can honestly say the Mk1 is the better drivers car. With only a 1600cc engine it still seemed the faster car when pushed and it handled a lot better than the Mk2 but im sure that was down to the weight difference. As a practical day to day car the Mk2 was better because it was a bigger car but you didn't seem as one with it like you did with the Mk1. I later went on to own a Lotus Elise which reminded me in a small way of the the Mk1 because both cars stick to the road like you are on rails which was not the case with the Mk2, in the Mk1 you always felt you could push it with out getting in to trouble but the Mk2 limits in fast driving conditions never give you that same confidence. As a weekend toy i would definitely recommend the Mk1 just for the fun factor but if it's going to be your main weekly run about then it would have to be the Mk2 as it's much more practical with it's size difference than the Mk1. Don't get me wrong, both cars are fantastic to drive but if i was offered they keys today to both models to take for a spin for an hour the Mk1 wins hands down.

[@bdogg9983]

Aw11 is love, aw11 is life

[@toddk4115]

I have both an 87 with a USDM 4agze swap and NA C52 tran with some mods. Probably 150whp and a ton of suspension mods. Also have a 93T MR2 with a lot of suspension mods and 290whp Gen3 3sgte setup. Hands down the AW11 is more of a drivers car. It feels much more go-kartish than an SW20. But I love them both for different reasons.

[@phoenixmistertwo8815]

Got the same swap. C52 in an 88 NA body with a Japan spec GZE. Still sorting out the bugs. I think there's an issue with my American wiring and body harness to the Japanese ECU. I have the fuel selector switch but no wiring and also dont have the supercharger warning light dash. Could be an issue.

[@1compaqedr8]

Phoenix Mister Two reading about your issues is reminding me of horrid troubleshooting ordeals with me aw11 leaving me stranded. Loved driving it but constant fixing got old fast!

[@that1guy0219]

I had an 86 in high school and I fell in love with it...came out one day after a storm and there was a tree on it

[@sikusuyu]

damn

[@mista2621]

I Love the AW11 , Have owned 10 of them over the last 22 years , Still have 1 that I've owned for 12 years

[@Giggaxwattzzz69]

I have a 86 AW11 and my brother has his Turbo 91 SW20. Both cars are a blast to drive. I believe both cars aged really well.

[@tommynobaka]

The AW-11 with a lip, coilovers and BPU one of my dream builds

[@red66chevy]

AW 11 is my favorite . much lighter to start and can be made even lighter.

[@benle4965]

More MR2 videos!!! Maybe a mod list video next?

[@LaGantoise]

Footage of trailing the AW11 + imaginary Eurobeat playing = major Initial D feel.

[@SubieNinja]

*Tofu delivering intensifies*

[@KevinAbillGaming]

@@SubieNinja And *IROHAZAKA JUMP INTENSIFIES*

[@raydavison2972]

The suspension on the AW11 looks shot to me. I think a refresh would make a huge difference to the handling

[@nathanchildress5596]

Maybe it's a little worn, but 80's cars were really softly sprung, especially with of the short wheelbase.

[@longbowdt]

I've owned 3 MR2s back in the day: '85, 88-SC, and 91T. I still dream of the 91T. :)

[@sergioarevalo1820]

it breaks my heart not having my aw11 anymore

[@bloostoo8550]

So glad I found this. I had the very same 1986 AW11 right down to the paint job and interior trim. Loved that car and still regret selling it to a friend, who despite my warnings, floored it on a bend on a wet road and wrote it off. Great to see such a good example still out there. Happy memories.

[@SovranMonk]

I had that exact Mk1, memories. Nice to hear how it compares to the 86/brz, these three have been my dream cars since 85. Great vid!

[@britishsecretagent0078]

So ur the one who ended up with my two tone mr2👌🏼

[@adriansong3839]

1ZZ ZZW30 from South Africa here. Much love for the channel and the global MR2 community! Keep up the great content man!

[@brockmoules]

Love the MR2 vids!! Keep it up!

[@unclebenny12]

Love the brief intro and history of the MR2! There was a turbocharged AW11 at the last autocross I attended, it looked like it would be so much fun to drive.

[@ianedmonds9191]

I think the supercharged one would fit it's character more especially for Autocross. Turbos are unpredictable unless they are really small. Superchargers are the same every time. For Autocross I guess that would be more useful.

[@frnciscob1]

I would definitely trade my sw20 for a AW11 85 year I was born. I love the boxy look.

[@ImpactedMexican]

Thank you for showing some AW11 love 😭

[@stephenkehoe640]

My son had to have a 200SX as his first car, kept it for three years.and sold it for about the same as he bought it and no mods . the point I'm making is these cars were quality and although you know that ,I had to say it .The video I enjoyed as I found it revealing how each driver experienced the ride in each others cars.

[@kevinoverbeck4250]

I owned a 86 MK1, the same color as the one on the video. The old ones were born for curvy back roads.

[@ingopaul67]

I owned both an 89 Aw11 n/a and a 98 rev5 SW20 n/a back in the 90s, I much preferred the AW11, still my all time favourite fun car; the engine was a peach, gearbox amazing, really nippy and it felt fast but probably wasnt really. The SW20 was good but a bit more grown up

[@lindsayroberts6017]

Totally agree with your assessment of both mk’s of MR2. I have owned both and love both. Can you give me a rundown on your turbo mods for the SW20, I’m looking at liveable upgrades to increased performance.

[@JBsC6]

I enjoyed the reviews and comparisons of two unique and special sports cars...keep up the great comparison reviews..both great cars...id lean towards the turbo version for more power as its just makes driving fun

[@303cerebral]

Great episode, big long time fan of the original MR2.

[@sgk993]

Great review and comparison.

[@waiateruati]

Great video guys, thanks. I just bought a 1987 mr2 supercharged. I absolutely love it 😍

[@Hondeer]

I have both of these and the AW11 'w/modded GZE' is better handling than the SW20. However, its all center of mass and roll center. Change the roll center of the SW20 with LCA spacers and bam! It boogies however the AW11's smaller tire circ allows it to change direction easier than the SW20. The SW20 has more transfer to throw around so you *can* accel that tire grip up a little more, however the rear end is far heavier in proportion to the AW11 which they balanced with a heavy steel hood. If you know a fair bit about suspension geometry you can make either or out handle the other with a bit of fabrication. :)!!! Either way, you can't go wrong and they're phenomenal driving machines!

[@zadeoooo]

I agree man. Such great cars I'm just happy with mine

[@dhammondplaya]

Aw11 looks way!!!! better

[@PseudoKirby]

bet you also prefered laura croft in the PS1 days too eh

[@alansmilealot]

@@PseudoKirby lmaoooo

[@greganderson5972]

Wishful thinking. Or maybe mushrooms.

[@shawntheviking]

It depends on what style you like. Some may like the smooth design of the 90's. Or like the boxy 80's one. I do prefer the AW11 though. But the 90's one does also look quite nice.

[@alansmilealot]

@@shawntheviking I love the aw11 style more

[@jimsgaragetoys]

I've always loved the AW11 since it first came out. It captured my soul with the design and looks. I've owned 3 of them and currently own an 89 Supercharged MR2 5MT which I think would have been fun to have been included to see between these 2 versions. I've always wanted a SW20 turbo but things just never worked out for me finding one. Thanks for the fun video.

[@luthiervandros]

Yesssss. Love these with ttops.

[@jimsgaragetoys]

@@luthiervandros Me too, love the t-tops.

[@skinvai]

I am here for the AW11. Just starting to restore/build my AW11! Hope to upload videos of the build too

[@eyebok]

I’ve owned both, but still have my AW11…. Both great cars, more power and refinement in the 20, but more fun in the 11! (That and listening to Phil Collins on tape is totally rad)

[@miroslavgolemanski8388]

Pls make more MR2 videos this is my favorite car and your videos are great and I really enjoy then

[@timr4319]

I have a 1986 AW11 na. I had the motor rebuilt and new clutch (still needs more power). With good tires the stock motor mounts let the motor move to the point the exhaust pulls out of the hangers and drops to the ground. It survived over 20 autocross events last year but was slow. Adding a rear sway bar helps with the understeer.

[@rickeelai3100]

Nice vid, i m a die hard fans of sw20 turbo ...i enjoy every seconds when i m driving it. ur car is really a beauty !

[@jeffmousley8148]

I had that exact ‘86 in Victoria B.C. back in the day... I wish I kept her , very uncommon colour combo There was one other one that was close but was a dark green two tone

[@jeffmousley8148]

I bought my 86 in 87 The original owner had an all black one painted two tone like the jade / beige at the dealership when he bought it ..wish I knew what happened to that car

[@bayshoreboys]

Dude, I'm so glad I found this channel... I'm over on the east coast (Newfoundland), but I have almost the exact same car as you, a '94 GTS Hardtop, except mine is red (not a fan of red, but it growing on me)

[@geoffmcheyzer9821]

I like the way you both compared each others cars. Good driving and opinions

[@dbnpoldermans4120]

I remember as a little boy the commercials of the MR2 AW11. That car was about the hottest thing out, when it came out. Hasn't aged that well in my opinion, but perhaps in the future it might shine because of it's quirkiness. you guys talking to each other while in different cars was excellent. It might've been a hassle to setup and edit, but it looks great. Please always do that! It paid off bigtime, with the sun setting. beautiful

[@RoadsUntraveled]

Thank you! We're just trying out some different setups, etc. Looking forward to our next comparison for sure!

[@mattevans1643]

It's still shining, trust me. It's still the amazing car it was 33 years ago. Unfortunately box was the style back then, it's actually amazing how well they designed that car with that shape, to do what it does.

[@eskamobob8662]

Check out a red one. They are still hot as hell

[@JacquesDufrene]

ive been looking at a aw11 with that exact paint, and i havent been able to see any videos and very few pis of an aw11 with that 2 tone green and tan, great looking car

[@flyonbyya]

Been waiting for that comparo for years! You guys did a fantastic job !!!! I’ll go SW20 with some kinda lightweight a 500hp transplant

[@haroldb2663]

I had both an 1986 and 1991. Loved them both. The 1986 I fell in Love with instantly. The 1991 was more of a serious machine that I loved also. The 91 was sexy and that body still looks good today. Cool video guys!

[@gehringer37]

I own both. And I love them both! If I had to pick one sw20 all day! Great video!

[@tokyootigers]

Massively love both cars , unfortunately never owned the mk2 Mr2 , only had the Mk1 and Mk3 , now I feel i've missed out . I love Toyota sports cars , I've owned so far , Mk1 Mr2 , Mk3 Mr2. 3 Celica's,! Toyota Supra , Was gonna get a GT86 butnow thinking on buying a Mk 2 Mr2 after watching this video. I have a Toyota sports car fan page on Facebook due to my love of these cars.Great quality video and great editing . Love it.

[@roystanifer2243]

I think a stock sw20 vs the stock aw11 would have been a more fair comparison. N/A vs N/A os C/C vs turbo as well. But i really enjoyed the video nonetheless

[@stephendibari5010]

In 1986 at the ripe age of 22, recently married, I bought my first ever NEW car, a BOLD RED MR2, 5 speed manual ! Babied that car for 7 years until i sold it with 73k miles . Never changed the brakes ! “Engine” braked and feathered the gas pedal for the majority of 7 years, simply an amazing feat to never change the pads and rotors on that car for 7 years!! I did my own oil changes, fluid changes... Kept it outdoors with a durable Evolution 3 fabric car cover, through 6 winters... I have to find some photos of the MR2... drove to Montreal to watch the Montreal GrandPrix one summer with it... Got it up to about 120 mph, kinda crazy thinking about it now.. more so since I didn’t have a radar detector !! I had installed a aftermarket exhaust system (CAT back) around 1988... It was an Italian brand, forgot the name.. it made the exhaust note a little throatier , they claimed 5 - 10 hp more, but who knows, I couldn’t tell ... the sound was definitely louder. I Remember taking exit ramps off the highway at like 50 mph in 3rd gear, man that car hugged the road !! After my first set of tires were worn I went with Mud & Snow 4 season tires and i loved how it tracked in the snow, especially with being a mid-engine design.

[@bitwise2832]

I had a 1984 MR2 Turbo when living in Japan. Steering on the right. Not bringing it back to the US with me is a huge regret. It was so fun to drive, nothing compares.

[@minimanadam]

Very very good videos very informative

[@petes.elitefishing]

amazing vid!!!

[@itsallac0nspiracy]

SW20 Rev 3 all the way. I owned a 'Mk1.5' AW11, and they feel like you are sitting on them, not in them. I doubt I will ever sell my Rev 3 turbo. Great video, mate.

[@exxfry]

Thank you guys!

[@andrewshelly6804]

I really like the aw11 mr2 steering wheel. Great video btw. More of this kind of content

[@Raevenswood]

the AW11 in this video seems like the suspension needs some love there is a ton of body roll and that's not normal.

[@thegenerousdegenerate9395]

I'll take 1 of each please and thank-you. Although i would build and tune the 86' to within an inch of its N/A life. High horse, cammed N/A motors with I.T.B.'s aren't just for power, they sound AMAZING! and that sound would just be epic coming from that car.

[@Im0a0pirate]

nice vid. you should also make a video about the r32, r33 and r34 skyline GTRs. People have strong opinions about which one is best.

[@nathanchildress5596]

I freaking love 80's Toyota! I have an AW11 project, and I'll soon have a1984 A60 Supra. The styling reminds me of a cold war jet fighter and the interiors were so wild, the A60 Supra I'm buying has a blue pinstripe interior, no way any modern car could look and feel like these.

[@marcellascousin9399]

I had two 1980 mr2 stick shift with the pop out sunroom and 1984 mr2 auto 😢 they both were fun cars.

[@gottarantulas6612]

Admittedly, I have never driven an SW20 but have owned an AW11 and to me of all the cars I've ever owned, it is the one that offers a true driver's experience what is go-kart handling. And by the way I literally had this exact same color scheme on my 1987 MR2.

[@snailpower001]

I love my 93 MR2 turbo. It's very modified, has an engine swap and it keeps me smiling. That was a time when Japan was producing cars (Supra, MR2, RX7, NSX, etc.) that were driver focused with simple driver aids compared to today's cars. I get a lot of compliments on my MR2 when I take it out, so to me, the shape and looks of these cars still stand out compared to what around these days.

[@zadeoooo]

AW11 all the way. I love mine. It has coilovers and other small mods but nothing for power. It handles great and has amazing steering feel, super light front end makes up for lack of power steering, besides parking I love not having power steering, on center is not vague at all, maybe the one in this video needs new bushings. The AW11 just has an incredibly unique vibe and experience I've never felt in anything else.

[@mattevans1643]

I have to agree. My front suspension in my AW11 is shot, but it still handles like a champ. Parking is a bitch sometimes, but everything else the car does is amazing and i love it.

[@was1958]

I bought that same forest green gen 1 MR2 new for $13.5. Loved that car and drove it for 17 years. Reliable, economical, fun. Bought it for the engine.

[@haza45ps43]

Def thought you guys were in Fort Langley, then I saw the yellow school house lol

[@andr3w27]

Both are beautiful. I wish we had roads like that near Toronto.

[@maxpontio4413]

Nice video ✌

[@RoadsUntraveled]

Thanks ✌

[@pgtmr2713]

As a former AW11 owner... SW20 all the way. I still want to get one and V6 swap.

[@pgtmr2713]

Mazda KLZE swap should make the same power as your turbo SW20, but NA, 7500 rpm V6.

[@mr2marc]

interesting....as a current sw20 owner...i'd say aw11 all the way haha

[@Kevhoe]

Honda K series turbo swap FTW.

[@pgtmr2713]

Negative. No K-swaps, 2JZ swaps, or LS1 swaps. If I were going to do 4 cyl. I would keep it Toyota, Black or silver top 4AGE. The closest you'd have gotten with a Honda, is a J series. K-swap can make power, but it can't make music. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5LYiYCbfrmWmq8

[@Kevhoe]

PGTMR2 4AGE in a SW20? Why downgrade?

[@mikej218]

So are there any big MR2 Meets still going? Goal for 2019 is to get my 1995 Turbo back in DD Condition

[@Sol-hm7ol]

Good luck with that, hope you can make it work.

[@koakamaka]

Thanks for this video! I enjoyed it! If anybody wants to share their experience, knowledge & advice, I’m all ears. I inherited my father’s 5-speed 1989 MR2. This is the last car he bought a dealership. My sister had it first and beat on it. Needless to say, I need to rebuild or replace the motor. I’d like to make it budget friendly and reliable with improvements. Hence, the easiest motor swap is what I’m looking for with the best balanced improvement of performance & reliability. Most things I’ve run across suggest a black top. Thoughts?

[@KeenanStyles]

Wow, memory lane for me. My first car was a 90 MR2 5sp hardtop. It was N/A though. Had a ton of issues out of that car lol. I miss those days. I have to disagree though. The SW20 feels absolutely nothing like a BCNR33. The GT-R is a much more stable car with the traction and the R33 chassis in general doesn’t have any oversteer issues. Personally for me my favorite is the 3rd gen MR-S due to the balance and refinement. It get criticized due to the looks however out at Fuji Speedway I’ve seen MR-S with a good set of brakes, coilovers, GT spoiler, roll cage and sticky tires absolutely obliterate cars that most people obsess over like BNR34, JZA80s, and NSXs.

[@bechirdesir2181]

Love the video and now I'm looking for a turbo sw20 to keep my 2 aw11s company 😧😧

[@ianedmonds9191]

Did the US not get the T-bar with the full leather interior? Seems that would be the top of the line?

[@SHIREDRIFT]

Loved my AW11. Was worn out, but still, you could just chuck it into a corner as fast as you like, and it'd turn in. Would love another one with a 2zz supercharged swap from a Exige S. Blilliant little cars. And unlike the mr-s Got a decent trunk!

[@BrandonAilion]

The one thing I didn't like about the Spyder was the trunk. Have an aw11 now 😊

[@madxp9668]

I love both, definitely will modify both on the handling and power train with minimum exterior mod , coz I love how they look

[@pmcbrier]

I used the track the hell out of a 91 turbo. It was a fun little track car. And a zippy daily driver. Kept it for 11 years before passing it on. I keep most cars for 12 or 18 months max.

[@jackf456]

Im one of those guys who own both. '95 MR2 Turbo for about 12 years and '88 MR2 Supercharged for about 7 years. love them both.

[@allenm6326]

I'm one of those that's own both cars...at the same time. A 93 usdm turbo and 88 20V. They share the name but are different beasts. I love both...but the 88 20V had a softer spot in my heart 😎😍

[@SKDDUNLOP]

Nice comparison ! You should try the MR2 ZZW30 / Spyder . I own one alongside a JDM 96 SW20 Turbo and they are a underrated drivers car. I personally think it's slightly more fun to drive despite its unexciting engine (many swaps available) I would describe my Turbo as the hammer and the Spyder as the scalpel.

[@davidagcole]

As an owner of both too, I absolutely agree.

[@aftastosk6016]

I own a MR2 ZZW30 and I can only say good words about it despite its mediocre engine. Not only is fun even in moderate speeds, but its limits are ridiculously high and when I build up speed, there are not many cars even today that can catch it.

[@aftastosk6016]

I was looking a mk1 MR2 that happened to park near me the other day. It's a car I can never get bored of it. It was perfect taking account the engineering limitations of the day. The Mk3 build upon this.

[@SliptreamSaint]

Some errors posted about the 2nd gen MR2. #1. The GT was the top of the line model; GTS models have slightly less luxury features. #2. MR2 turbo engines from Japan have 225 or 246 hp, his is a 94 so it's 246 stock.

[@NCMSGarage]

GT were 1991-1992 turbo models and GT-S we're Revision3+ turbo models, 1993 onward.

[@BlueRB240]

that detonation @ 11:11 lol

[@davidagcole]

Sw20 turbo for me. It's just the looks and the power are just awesome. It's demanding but rewarding drive but you do have to drive it carefully. Never driven an AW11 but I do also own a ZZW30 and the description of the AW 11 driving experience sounds similar to that. Not high power, but cornering and driver rewards are fantastic and you can safely get the 'driving down the twisties' experience with a big smile on your face without having to be as cautious as you would in the SW20. Great video guys! Fantastic insight and really well produced. Thank you. Also any chance of an SW20 v ZZW30 vid some time? 😉

[@mattevans1643]

The AW11 is such an amazing ride. It's not fast, but that wasn't the point of it. It's a great car, if you can ever find one you should definitely drive it.

[@411nightnheaven]

Nice sw20.. black wheels on blue looks good.. wish I had one like yours..

[@bayshoreboys]

As an owner of a 94 Turbo and an 88 SC I found 3:15 very funny... Trying to decide which one to sell is the hardest part. Can't keep em all unfortunately

[@FT__Motorcycles_Cars____-zg3fc]

I'd love to have either. MR2 seem so cool

[@LJMR22]

love them both

[@petea7834]

Great video, can't beat a turbo mk2 👍

[@turdbomitch9007]

The turbo SW20 was top of the line,the aw11 was a low end MK1 A, there's no comparison... But I have owned both and currently own the aw11 mk1B S/C and that's my favourite of the lot.

[@nateuelmen8757]

I’m all for the AW11, I have one myself ( ‘89 AW11 Twin Cam SC )

[@zahemi914]

I own 3rd gen MR2/Spyder but I have always dreamed to drive the 1st gen when it first came out and still am.. however I'd prefer it in 1 tone colour

[@chris55top]

The 4age motor is a very fun high revving motor. It definitely does not make a ton of power stock but it can be made to.

[@Yourstruly_JFLO]

watching all the way from guam

[@NoKzBruh]

The 3rd gen mr2 gets no love :(

[@RobbyDee85]

love the 3rd gen i think its a good lookin car man

[@alanhung1428]

It looks like a cheap boxter

[@KeenanStyles]

The MR-S is my favorite.

[@cameron2325]

Bc it sucked.

[@davidagcole]

It's underrated, but it's a great car. It's my daily where as my SW20 turbo is just for weekend fun.

[@NapoleonDynamite69]

Did you film this in fort langley?

[@Keiffer01]

I had an all original Mk1a and still got a modded Mk1a with a 4age blacktop 20v with 6 speed lsd, polyurethane bushings and upgraded brakes and suspension... It's an amazing car, the Blacktop engine and 6 speed is SO perfect for the car, very fast! Too bad they rust so quick and easy, always got to work on the body:(...

[@isaacarus]

also great video. so nice to finally see someone doing factual, descriptive well thought out with proper driving on roads we drive on. not ZOMG DRIFTTTTTTT SMOOOOOKKKK WAAAAAAAHHHHH....

[@technosworld2]

I've owned 2 SW20 (NA's) and a Spyder...I'd love to own a well kept AW11 SC and a SW20 Turbo....someday I'll own both