450HP 2nd Gen Mazdaspeed 3 Meets a Stealthy 1st Gen Mazdaspeed 3 | Boosted Hatch Battle!

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Hey guys! Today on the show we've got two modified and very unique Mazdaspeeds! As we've recently found out, Mazda has no intention of creating a new Mazdaspeed product out of the new (and wonderful) Mazda 3. Because of this, we find ourselves looking back in time to scratch the enthusiast itch inside of us. Enter the 1st and 2nd generation Mazdaspeed 3. These cars have been modified in two different directions, although still both serving their initial goal of being fun and practical daily boosted hatchback. Enjoy!
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"We race because we're not allowed to go to war."

[@DjMurda]

40 year old man with a 400whp 420wtq gen 2 Mazdaspeed 3 owner here. Just had my first child and still no plans to get rid of it (the car). Had the car 9 years since new.

[@SaveTheManuals]

Congrats on fatherhood 👊

[@evannarvais]

28 year old with a 2010 400whp/391tq genpu.. have a 5 year old and she has grown up from a baby in the speed and wont get rid of it either.

[@CHUDHUCKER]

42, not sure on power yet, doing stuff to it after 11 years, lots left to go. Gen1. Instagram - tneknevram

[@adamgraham6265]

Quick question, hows the reliability?

[@evannarvais]

@@adamgraham6265 if your on stock block/internals you wanna stay below 400wtq. As far as my setup goes its been very reliable just keep up on maintainance and tune with a established tuner. Im dyno tuned by alan Jackson at edge autosport

[@stephanoya]

Focus ST wouldn't be sold in NA without the success of the Mazdaspeed3

[@windmillman]

Outdoor Layne just like how the Supra is no longer sold (not the new “Supra”), just like how the evo is no longer sold...should I continue?

[@windmillman]

Outdoor Layne perhaps you should clarify and define what successful means so idiots and less dense people like myself won’t look stupid in front of your superior stance, Sir. Please, do continue :)

[@Creeper2826]

@@windmillman dear lord look at the sale numbers the speed was discontinued in 2013 and even though the focus st was only 1 of 2 boosted hatches it was discontinued in 2019, but is still made in Europe so the reason they aren't selling in the US is because no one was buying them

[@raquielcross5757]

It is bc is only a handful of people like us that like to drive manual boosted cars..

[@stran9adan9a63]

Well Mazda is still making boosted cars they're just not called mazdaspeed anymore

[@richiesworld1]

Aside from the power, I think the interior is where the Mazda really beats a lot of its rivals.

[@Audi8pOfSouthAfrica]

richiesworld1 ima disagree here

[@bryangallardo3000]

Who’s the rivals then?? Lmao not GTI, not Wrx, not gen coupe, maybe the ford hatchbacks but thats all

[@kxlljn]

i own one and this not tru

[@Nick-up4br]

@@bryangallardo3000 if modified. the ford RS. Umodified it beats the wrx/gti shit

[@sipsimies1588]

The interior is ass??? Only good thing are speakers and seats, the noise inside the cabin is insane

[@turbovolvos40]

My MKII MS3 has 240,000 kilometers, and it's still nearly perfect, only needs front sway bar bushings. All it has needed was a new thermostat, and knock sensor. They're amazing cars!

[@Yes-xj9od]

Thanks for the review Markus. Was great meeting up with you and had a blast!

[@mitosopayn4780]

It feels so good to see and hear something about the mazdaspeed! Its still a car with much emotion and i love it since i bought it. So proud of you guys!

[@beanburnham01]

Loved my Gen1. Full bolt ons, coil overs, sways, etc. It was fun to drive every single time. They can handle really well if you wait to get on the gas

[@jb6574]

I'm glad I ended up getting the mazdaspeed out of all the hatches out there..may not be the fastest but it is pretty simple and easy to mod and make power

[@antnay_beastz9361]

Very much bang for your buck

[@JacesOwnWorld]

I’ve always liked the look of the MazdaSpeed 3.

[@Sleeepypat]

I’m very surprised, but super stoked you gave the speed3 some love

[@lifebehindthehatch899]

Currently working on my 08 Speed3 to make 550whp mid boost and 700whp high boost tune. Love this video. Great job bro!

[@RENOWN55CHARGE]

I swear the harder & longer you look, the Mazdaspeed3 gen1 is one of the best looking cars ever made & will be remembered as such despite no one caring at the time.

[@rosscantsidis9382]

I had one of those cars lost my licence very quickly indeed

[@ldope3904]

almost lost mine as well lol.. since then I've stopped upgrading my mazda

[@keanenscott9383]

Bro same lol

[@WannabeTuners]

Love it guys! Keep up the great work!

[@Gtmania02]

Great video, true knowledge of the Mazda community. Thank you. My speed3 is 12 year old, still driving her.

[@sq33qs]

This was very fun to watch, thanks for the great video and using 2x prime examples.

[@greatwhitenorth3717]

I love my 07 gen 1...on a tiny BNRS3 and E33...it never fails to put a smile on my face. Bought it new.

[@steverodriguez6678]

I am the same boat buddy I am 39 years old with 3 kids still have my 2007 Gen1 speed I am the second owner still ❤️ my car. Bought it 2010 and now the speed3 have a mark of 185000 mile and still strong 💪

[@scottlathrop66]

@Joseph Gross 60 and on my second Speed afther the first one was t boned by a texting driver.

[@bjornsama9649]

I've always liked these. I like hatch/wagon style cars. Very practical and can still be very fun.

[@josedejesus765]

Proud owner of my 2012 Mazdaspeed3!!! This car is truly a joy to have!

[@davidgaskey2768]

Just got my first one from carmax will be here next week. 2013 model. 3rd mazda in a row first time it womt be a gen 1 though. Super excited!

[@frankdeak2397]

Bought my first gen. Drove it 2 weeks. After 500 miles she gave out at 148k. I’m hooked. She gets a new heart. Thank you Mazda for all raw

[@Mazdaspeedgarage]

Love this channel for the jdm's but I'm a huge fan of the speed platform and finally we got a speed3 on the channel great video Let's get a speed6 awd on here

[@momentum6743]

I have a bk since 6 years with stage 3 about 350hp it's enough to have fun I love it

[@97dsmbishi]

You need to feature a Speed6. AWD, turbo & 6spd manual. That is all.

[@edennard1]

We had one and it was more trouble than we wanted to be bothered with..!the turbo charger started smoking at 11,000 miles, after that the head gaskets blew.. it was all replaced under warranty but then we started having problems with the stereo..then the radiator had to be replaced... so when that got replaced we ditched the speed 6..

[@Eidrian111]

erik dennard my speed 6 has 120k miles and I haven’t replaced anything. Maybe you got a lemon.

[@raquielcross5757]

That sounds like a lemon..

[@edennard1]

It was and it was ashamed that it was because I really liked the platform because it was ahead of it’s competition for what it was during that time.

[@numinous4789]

Cool vid. I'd have used the word "comparison" instead of "battle," though. I have a 390whp Gen 2 and love it. It's been retired to weekend/track duty, but I DD'ed it reliably for years. I brought my daughter home from the hospital in it, haha. Yeah, they're great cars and often very underestimated, particularly when people think they're just a 3. I've stunned so many "fast" cars after pulling them and letting them catch back up. The looks on their faces and car-enthusiast thumbs-ups afterwards have been priceless.

[@popeyevalls]

Im so friggin jealous!! Awesome vid yall! Bada$$ 3s you got there!

[@blkdavid]

we kind of fill each other's gaps....🤦🏽‍♂️

[@flipcrippin22]

I heard that too 😂😂😂

[@stoneee1234]

......Now I can't unsee🤦🏽‍♂️

[@richiesworld1]

💩 🍆

[@hamadalshaqsi2005]

Now I want to sell my Speed 3

[@moyhernandez7165]

😂😂😂 i still want a mazdaspeed but i dont think ill be filling anybodys gap L0L

[@proxnec]

Nice video and nice review i agree on everything you said. I own a 2008.5 speed3 and a mazda 3 2007 both have some mods, i can Simply describe the difference between a normal 3 and speed by saying that when i hop and drive my speed3 i gotta be so much more focused and its like a good stress and feeling at the same thing. When i enter in my mazda 3 its like a normal car i dont feel like its that special and that i need to be focusing on my Driving. I love my speed3 and Everyday with it is totally different and make me smile, if you love mastering a car platform and Learning how to drive it better each day you will love the speed .

[@davidtilson9830]

Lemme just say that this was a great video.Really enjoyed it

[@hellokitty0871]

Mazda really needs to make more Mazda speed 3 cars. Make a more sporty body with more luxury trends including upgrades. Sell it for a bigger price.

[@Luminary_Industries]

Mazdaspeed is finally getting attention!! What! Awesome! They are great cars.

[@wmckittr]

I’ve got 186k miles or 300k km on my daily speed 3 on original everything

[@jbaguam80]

Reached 100k last month. Still going strong.

[@byteoncomputerservices8054]

250,000k all original and driven daily. Still looks and drives like a brand new car.

[@Knoxie773]

my MS6 has 76,000km 45,000 miles

[@Rcteo1212]

201k all original here only exhaust on it

[@josedejesus765]

115k on my gen 2. Mods, tune and still going strong!!!

[@COYOTE_N8]

Aww so beautiful!! My gen 1 has 150k miles and still super strong. Just did all the seals an walnut blasted valves.about the same hp maybe a little more cus I'm on ethanol. Fbo with pro tune

[@msalazar89]

Bought one brand new in 08, I miss it so much. I'm looking for one now, I need it in my life

[@Sboom20]

M Sal89 I have one slightly modded that I may sell for the right number. 🤔

[@VancityAudi]

Wicked hat!!! And another awesome video!!

[@marcov9808]

The perfect daily driver in my opinion

[@wisdommphande1887]

Proud owner of a 2012 speed 3. What a car!

[@justinojara9169]

i have axela 2005 looks pretty much like your 1st gen and its a 2000cc fast but i envy your turbo 2.3 version , i love to buy that soon God willing love that sound buddy

[@raquielcross5757]

I'm 42 married and with 3 boys.. I' bought my speed3 in February 2007, i tought my wife how to stick shift in this the car back then , it's an amazing car we drove it for the first 5/6 years more like daily, and then slowly started doing the mods..now she s at just 281whp/300wtq driven on only dry sunny days 😁 a list of mods are on the way for this summer if the world will continue as it was..

[@R1senb18c]

I love my 09 Speed 3 GT, 103,000 miles and she hasn't ever let me down. (Minus when I blew the stock turbo) LOL, still drove though, just smoked all the way to the shop. :)

[@TwilightsPurple]

I love the 1st gen front end, and the 2nd gens rear end😮‍💨

[@golferpro9444]

I have had my 2007 speed3 for 3 years now it has 210k Cobb stage 1 and exhaust wheels suspension intake. No sign of letting up in the motor. The rust is what is getting to it living in NH

[@gokeyinspections8552]

im 31 year old I have a 10 Mazda Speed3 with bolt ons just over 100k miles its my business daily great car!

[@Nick-wb2mc]

best looking hot hatches on the market!

[@ArcherNoble]

I see the gen one parked all the time next to a silver cavalier.

[@steveman737]

When's that cavalier getting a blower?

[@adamg4754]

I love the looks of the 1st Gen over the 2nd Gen. More sleek and calm looking where as the 2nd Gen has the Big Ol 😁 Smiley Face. 1st Gen look more of a Sleeper.

[@KarlSwartz]

Gen 2 in black is more subtle.

[@PhiladelphiaCollins451]

Im at 183k and engine never blew up in my 2nd gen. Its had a hpfp basically its whole life and good owners! Ive been very lucky so far...

[@ovodrizzyszn7766]

We really wanna see some more boosted builds

[@michaelmorris162]

MY 2006 MAZDA 3 HATCHBACK IS AT 367K MILES!!!! 2ND MOTOR 4TH TRANSMISSION IN 4 YEARS FAST AS HELL AND FUN

[@laynewooley3400]

Good video! Love my 13 speed3

[@chadburg86]

“We fill each other’s gaps” 😂

[@mr.c1914]

I daily drive my Gen 2 at almost 260000, no problems yet. 1 previous owner took great care of it.

[@businessmanph]

man i miss my gen one. getting. an Edelbrock sc put on my nd1 this weekend. looks like white xmas

[@greentoolsnyc3985]

Got 3 kids we go everywhere in it.

[@anthonybluhm4724]

This almost makes me miss mine. Sold it to a friend this past year. I still get to visit her.

[@yrnmau]

Anthony Bluhm what’d you get ?

[@anthonybluhm4724]

@@yrnmau I had a beautiful '07. Sold her for a GMC Canyon. Much more useable if I am to keep one vehicle. Especially here in northern Pennsylvania where snow and ice are a thing.

[@ayske1]

Rear 1/4 on the gen2, yep!!

[@greatwhitenorth3717]

No issues with mine on e33 an BNR S3 tuned by Justin at Freektune but I would like to build a motor but don't know a good builder in Vancouver, Can. Had mine since 2007!

[@RenzoSpeed3]

Love it!

[@4nunnak1]

Love 1st Gen 😍

[@piotrswierzewski7129]

I just got a gen1 and it took 1 test drive to fall in love

[@2011chitsazzadeha]

I have a 550whp speed3 and its perfect. Been my dream car since forever.

[@stoneee1234]

Me see Mazdaspeed, me like

[@szpynda]

I can't look at :) in the bumper on Mazda 3 MPS 2gen

[@Nicktheblasian]

Just bought my 2012 speed 3!

[@bricegraham8256]

I have a first gen Mazda 3 S. It's not a Speed but it does have the NA 2.3 MZR engine. I plan on making it into a Speed3 some day when I have enough money and another vehicle. Despite not being stock, she's a fun daily and makes an awesome first car. It's at 177000 miles and still runs strong. Definitely the first major thing I wanna do to it is rebuild the engine .

[@bricegraham8256]

@Noah Humeston I appreciate the correction. And yeah thats what I've found out from the research I've done on that so far. Not very many people has attempted such a thing on KZbin or in general. Even just turbo charging the thing. Not very many people has done that either. Tho I like the idea of doing something that most people have never dared to do. But anyways that's something that will be well in the future an not no time soon. Again thanks for the info. I suppose your Mazda is a speed?

[@danhamtv774]

I was in Canada 2018 can’t imagine better roads to drive a car like this in. Beats U.K. roads any day of the week.

[@hauntedhose]

I test drove a generation one Mazda speed three and it was so fast it made me wonder if I was going to run out of road… As in what was in the distance came forward so quickly I didn’t even have the time to think about it

[@timocruze9421]

love the mazdaspeed 3 gen 2 but damn is there any front bumpers that arnt smiling?

[@jincjin8700]

gen 1 mps interior actually looks better than 2nd gen imo, if only it had push start too

[@martingregor6718]

Does anyone know if it's possible to change out the front grill of the gen 2? The smile grill is the only thing that's stopping me from getting it

[@byteoncomputerservices8054]

About the only thing shared between the standard Mazda 3 and the MPS (or Mazdaspeed 3) is the chassis (with significant stiffening), the dash crash pad, audio unit and HVAC controls - Literally everything else is different. Even the L3 shares almost nothing with the L3T engine.

[@gokeyinspections8552]

its a volvo C30 essentially

[@byteoncomputerservices8054]

@@gokeyinspections8552 Not really. The Focus and C30 are both very similar platforms to the Mazda 3 (not specifically the MPS) - But there's a number of differences between the MPS and the C30. About the only thing shared with the C30 is the front brakes.

[@cxbra]

Imo, the Speed 3 is the king of the fwd hot-hatches! This is the car I want to replace my Matrix XRS if I ever sell it! I love the VW hatches but dont trust VW/Audi.

[@Hyperno47]

As a Mazda/VW tech of 23 years and owner of both vehicles, the Jetta literally fell apart with the Mechatronics unit in the DSG failing at 165,000klms. In comparison, the MPS, which was of identical age, is currently at 260,000klms and the only thing I replaced was the gearbox as second gear synchro simply wore out at 130,000klms through normal wear and tear - The engine has never been apart. The VAG product is garbage in comparison.

[@jromt4988]

I had an 09 ms3 and it was just stupid fun, I loved that car even though it tries to kill you lol. If they came out with a new one and it was as good and fun as the old one id trade in my 19 WRX for that

[@VAspeed3]

Even a stock Gen1 MS3 would slip the front tires at 60MPH and up in 3rd gear because of all that torque. Drove mine 325,000 miles and tracked it some. Probably my favorite car ever. Gen 1 was a fantastic sleeper.

[@PeTRoL-HEadx]

Which shape us more durable

[@OscarPerez-uu5tr]

Hey, how many miles are on the 2nd gen mazda?. Just curious.

[@winstonzhang3111]

How does it compare to the Miata? I'm an NC owner wanting to get into 3s...

[@mitchellcookk]

I don't know if I'm wrong here but this looks like Glenn valley which is literally where I rip my first gen mazdaspeed3 all the time 😂

[@yaboychaz734]

Could you get sway bars to help with the torque steer? Should help stabilize slightly especially if you're trynna juice on turns.

[@Yes-xj9od]

Tie bars and/or traction bars are being considered for next season.

[@yaboychaz734]

@@Yes-xj9od Definitely want to see the results in a video review.

[@samirhilal192]

#bcMazda3 congrats boys

[@jonah9165]

Some very nice speeds ! Just got a CPE Top mount intercooler for my gen 2 and immediately regretted it (want a front mount). Maybe will just stick with tmic and get a meth kit like this guy !!!

[@grape00jellly]

Why didn't you like the upgraded TMIC?

[@liamsilver7437]

Where is this? Looks like somewhere in the lower mainland in BC.

[@germfreeclown9767]

If you're interested in owning a super clean, unmodified 1st gen MS3 with 94K, there's one available on Cars & Bids until 2/12/2021 at 3:10pm Eastern

[@Mazdaspeedgarage]

You need to review dom’s mazdaspeed3 He is on KZbin he has one of the coolest speed3 pushing 35 psi of boost on fully built engine

[@PhoHmooAmerica]

Bought my 2012 mazdaspeed 3 from Hyundai Dealership with 15k miles on the odometer

[@ricardocruz9352]

Speeds are fast, love my gen2

[@PeTRoL-HEadx]

Which shape is more more durable

[@blandry5014]

had to laught when you said it's a grown up car. i am 38 and the GF doesn't understand why i am putting that much money in a car that she defines as a kids car. I love my speed3 since day 1 and i believed you will only understand the day that you'll be behind the wheel and go for a ride. gotta love the speed3! thanks for the video good job!

[@Yes-xj9od]

For some reason, that's all that came to mind. Then again, compared to how childish the gen1 is, the gen2 isn't much of an improvement~

[@I_Am_SoSo]

i love both gens ass but dislike the gen2 front. i own a genjuan cuz of that. heel to toe was tricky since i had my 92 civic hatch since i first start driving standard and learning heel toe rev matching on it was super easy. happy i learned how to drive standard and learned everything on the civic before i upgraded 😁 i needed more torque and i love hatchbacks so having more power was a bonus too even though my hatch was pushing like 150 it was fast enough for me but not uphill. miss that gas saver though.. i travel 50-60miles a day to work and back home and i deal with crazy traffic and a long ass some what steep hill climb so speeding up when traffic gets going was a pain. now 👌

[@ljgr6045]

Torn between a mk1 or mk2 only reason putting me off is the super tax on the mk1 in the uk

[@jordans.8171]

My gen1 speed just hit 170k... I've been wanting to do bolt ons and AP so bad but worried about it being old and then just wasting money.. have coilovers and wheels though.

[@daevid21]

Jordan Soliman I’m about to buy my buddies 07 speed 3 with Cobb stage 2 it’s got 230k on it runs mint tho I don’t think you should worry if the engine runs well and you take care of it you can tune it

[@jordans.8171]

@@daevid21 Thanks! Just got the timing chain replaced and it runs pretty good now. I'm tempted to get Fuel Pump internals, SF Intake and an AP to start.

[@moke37]

Oh how I miss mine :(

[@indiolush]

2011 Owner... Bought off the lot with 9 miles on it. Just hit 73K miles. Last night I tuned with COBB Access port.... HOLY FUCK....

[@noodle-cup]

My first car was a Mazdaspeed6, Definitely a quick car and super enjoyable to drive. But now that a look back probably not the best idea for a first car 😂 Ended up spending way too much money to fix it during highschool, and left me with no car for 3 months lol. None the less, super fun car for the price they are!

[@adamgraham6265]

Hey mind if I ask you a quick question? How would you describe the reliability? I'm in college and looking for a car and the speed6 is on the top of my list. I have about 10K to spend give or take

[@J.Stargaze]

@@adamgraham6265 my MS6 has 201K, with an old car expect to spend $ on the wear & tear components but as long as the engine is solid it's all about how well you then treat her, main thing to confirm is compression if you're looking into buying one, and ask if the vvt has been done.

[@noodle-cup]

@@adamgraham6265 If you keep it stock, it will be reliable.

[@97dsmbishi]

I had a 2006 WWP Speed6 on BC Racing coils, CPE single exhaust and some other goodies. The car is a bit heavy, but still was a thrill to drive. If you take care of it you will be fine. It’s the “grown up” version of the 6. Leather interior heated seats and a loud ass HKS ssq BOV. Turns heads and they don’t know where to look. It’s very under the radar. Get one.

[@PeTRoL-HEadx]

What do i need to do to my stock gen 2 Mps to get 350-400bhp??

[@dannyjr7997]

Funny my name is Daniel and No Lie. I'm buying a 2012 MSP 3 tomorrow from a 54 yr old guy who's modified it to 365 whp and 380ftlbs on E30 mix. All Cobb or Corksport stuff and Big front mount intercooler. I recently had a kid so my modded EK coupe had to go.

[@Gaphalor]

unpopular opinion, i kinda like the first gens a bit more, they are more of a sleeper but also clean goodlooking!

[@EminentLine]

I still want one of these. I'd take them over most of today's hot hatches.

[@austinmaclean801]

I still miss mine to this day, even after evos and V8s. Something about it.

[@stevenneese12]

Once you buy a speed you will never regret it. I don’t want to ever get rid of mine

[@magicofswords7060]

Can you do Mazdaspeed 3 185 D sport..

[@diegoeleazar9154]

I love the 1st gen speed but I wish it comes with scoop..

[@Yes-xj9od]

That's why I have a front mount!

[@Kommentiert_]

you can change the hood