Roastin' Rigs - Episode 6 - ANOTHER WONKY WHEELBASE?!

[@maxwellwills1816]

Yay it's my turn!! 🎉🎉🎉 Dang it you guys figured it out! 🎉🎉🎉 C10 rears in the front. I originally had the 68mm DJ crawlers on it and it kept hitting the front. Mazz told me not to lol should have listened 😂. Gonna be ordering brass for the front axels. Just got them put on there before I sent it out. Thanks again for checking it out! Definitely has stock foams too. I don't think you broke it either. I might have playing around with it a few days before I sent it. Heard a pop but nothing seemed broke

[@mazzdesigns6929]

Tried to tell you Mr. Maxwell 😂 put the c10 fronts back in that guy! Longer fronts never work well. Appreciate your support as always.

[@JanSonnemann]

Nice build Maxxwell. Just this little changes and it will be killer. I can see for sure, that you know how to make a clean build and put time and love in it. Great man!

[@maxwellwills1816]

@@mazzdesigns6929 c10s front will be right back at home soon as I get it back! *cough*Unless someone has some prototype links they wanna send me 🫠🫣 *cough* Big fan of your stuff like I've said to you before! You'll always have my support ❤️❤️

[@maxwellwills1816]

@@JanSonnemann Aww thank!! It's my first "build" and went more for looks than performance, now I wanna make it perform!

[@RadRaf]

I am not an expert either but just throwing this idea out there. Most people want to go hog wild on the rear links for wheelbase with short fronts to keep the skid and weight up front. I bet if we had a corner weight system it would be interested to see it's front to rear weight bias. By putting the skid in the middle instead of front bias, it's probably finding it's tipping point much sooner than a skid further forward and initiating the front break over. Words are hard, does anyone understand the words that are coming out of my mouth? lol

[@loganclark5604]

Probably wouldn’t hurt to flip the axles around so the front pulls more than the rear

[@notice_fpv]

@@RadRaf I've seen some of the really serious rcdrift guys use corner scales. Of course they also have really intricate alignment racks, too. Because, camber

[@mazzdesigns6929]

Trey I feel the Wifey is a big fan of Mazz Designs 😂 last video the Mazzerz decal caught her attention, this one it was the wheels! I’m going to have to come up with some swag to send her!

[@MrsRabbit8]

It wanted to flip over because the limiting straps in the rear were causing the rear shocks to not hold the weight needed when on the incline, the rear shocks don't hold, and the longer front links don't help with that. Also, too much flex is often floppy, and rubber bands don't really fix that. Laying down shocks also causes shocks to not give as much push when compressed fully. Get shorter shocks, with stronger springs, and place them in a more upright position, with shorter front links, and it will perform better in the spots that this one failed.

[@maxwellwills1816]

Thanks for the great info! I had a little feeling that the rear straps were hindering it. Haven't really had a need to mess with suspension tuning YET but I'm definitely going to look more into it.

[@MrsRabbit8]

​@@maxwellwills1816i really appreciate your reply to my comment, IMO it shows your great character. Most people do not receive criticism well at all. Also, most people don't like my opinion because i think that removing springs and laying shocks down horizontal is a noob obsession that never went away. Lol It's hard to fine tune shocks, and i haven't found the perfect limiting strap yet. Maybe there is a different kind of rubber? I'm still learning, and i know it's easier to say it than do it. That is a badass build! You should be proud. A little dialing... and you're golden! 😊

[@maxwellwills1816]

Im pretty new to this world so I'll take all the advice i can get! The fronts need vented with flubs or smaller foams I'm very proud of it! Definitely gonna be fine tuning it ❤❤❤

[@johnnyhotshoe1292]

Here, and ready for some more sweet roasts! Really cool different concept you've got here for a change! Cool content

[@24Yepp]

Thank you!

[@Fyxxterzc]

I too like to partake in the worcestersteer when im cooking ideas.

[@edgarv.7482]

Maxwell, nice rig! I’m a sucker for a bug body even if it is a little small for it. Keep the roast coming it’s been hilarious, and watch out for the first step it’s a doozy.

[@XanderKayhan-Amalu]

I tried 4ws on a heavily modded deadbolt and it was fun. However like with the truck here, ya sacrifice the weight bias and lose your climbing ability. It’s just better for a small scale crawler to have a good front axle with lots of radius, or otherwise do a reefs servo with a metal axle in the front and a nylon with an emax it the back to make sure the weight is still more on the front.

[@nycr6biker796]

Loved it! Another great rig!! Nice work Maxwell!

[@maxwellwills1816]

Duuuuude we are KZbin stars now! Lmao! Thanks man! Had to gather the family around with some popcorn and watch it on the tv. Definitely didn't make it any less uncomfortable lmao 🤣

[@24Yepp]

@@maxwellwills1816 🤣

[@HillbillyHermitRC]

Centered skid, lipo up high/centered, and dbbl brrls are all balance issues. If the lipo was in the front of the chassis and he had a centered limit strap instead of the individual shock limit straps. That would help out quite a bit with the climbing issues. It would allow each wheel to drop instead of three wheeling on climbs. Droop is not your enemy. Like you stated. Shortening the front links will also move the weight bias where it will perform better. With 4ws rigs. F/R balance is harder to dial in when compared to drag axles. If he went with a metal servo up front, that would help weight bias as well. It hurt to watch a comp style rig fail where your tiny tire truck crawled right up.

[@EricsRC]

That 4 weer schteer is pretty cool.

[@24Yepp]

It's giving me the option to "translate to english" 🤣

[@nouse4aname_]

​@@24Yepp😅😂...

[@Crawlingrc3903]

After translation its says .that 4 weather is pretty cool lol 😢

[@EricsRC]

@@Crawlingrc3903 Awesome 😆

[@rangerdaveable]

Looks likes got overdrive in the rear pushing the front? Or no overdrive? Needs over or under. Woulda pulled some of those lines. Keep roasting!

[@24Yepp]

I wish I checked, & I will!

[@brandonupchurch5015]

I seen that. The rear was definitely spinning faster or the front wasn't engaging correctly

[@Chunky246]

Spotted the PinkBike and Peaty stickers. Fellow mtb'ers :)

[@24Yepp]

🤘🏻

[@notice_fpv]

@@Chunky246 came here to post this

[@bigdumbdad2226]

It looks like rear axles is overdriven and the rear tires are moving faster than the front, that would be a source of it wanting to flip over a lot more if the rear is pushing instead of the front pulling. I did notice that front wheel that just stopped turning too, something is wrong with that axle shaft. It might work better with slightly longer rubber bands up front and none on the rear. I wonder how it would crawl in reverse? Symmetrical link setups are difficult to tune and manage, that's why the AX10 and the AX24 are not used very often in the stock configurations, some C10 front and Deadbolt rear links on that one and it would probably work much better. Love the VW, love the color and happy accident paint, it does need some tuning and tweaking to maximize the potential.

[@raenieldelacruz4925]

hey man please keep this up! its like waiting an episode of a series 👌🔥 to max i suggest front overdrive, add brass knuckles and lastly switch the battery and receiver's place

[@a.fab.antonfabrication2717]

When you run out of rigs I have some that need some pointers I’ll definitely send duder. These are amazing

[@Rockcandyrc.]

I think the combo of the double barrellls and no brass it's flexy with no counterweight, give it some weight down low and throw some oil shocks on, may help, but sweet rig for sure!!! Rock on!!!

[@andrewsexton5625]

Much love Maxwell, she rolls out....Yeps, has some hard lines where he goes

[@victorvargas5715]

So much potential, great rig. I think smaller tires, also the shock need to be mount higher that can and will mess with the lcg. Overall great

[@TiTs_RC]

Another solid review dude!!!

[@jayb3518]

Like others have mentioned, shorter front links, and maybe adjust the rear shocks more vertical or higher spring rate, and no limiting straps on the rear. it's keeping the rear springs from pushing the front end down... just my thought, but I'm no expert

[@Casitascrawlers]

Try the doable climb you said can be done again using more rear wheel steer come in at an angle with the front wheels up then slowly turn the wheels one way little by little a give it throttle watching how it’s reacting & if needed do the same with the wheels turned the opposite way using the same technique it may get up that way. Remember turning the rear wheels will keep the rear down.

[@Anthony_underscore]

I wonder if moving the battery further forward/lower would make any significant difference. I know it's a smaller battery, but it's up pretty high up.

[@ruuster83]

hell yeah bro, i got the Noble NB4 and it feels like butter on the controls.

[@ruuster83]

dang, scary stuff falling on rocks, doesnt take much to f your week up. thanks for the warning

[@snörre23]

12:14 looks like the four wheel steering is not helping a lot ?

[@24Yepp]

It definitely did help in certain situations, I wasn't too good with using it since it was my first time...

[@troypostie1252]

C10 rears in the front brother. Transmission motor setup needs to be shuffled forward

[@TYLERLOVESBMX1]

can you do a video of the new FCX24m with some upgrade on it? mix n match scx24 parts? curious on how it will react to the upgrades.

[@R.Sole88109]

I hope your leg is OK👍🏻 Might be worth carrying an IFAK and emergency kit in addition to giving your sweetheart an estimated return time and location. Maybe the Beetle would've worked better with YEP sticker on it's arse.😂

[@24Yepp]

Basket will be getting a first aid kit

[@R.Sole88109]

@@24Yepp Make sure it includes a Stop The Bleed kit (Combat Application Tourniquet/Celox/ Israeli Bandage, etc) as well as the booboo kit. And a flare kit incase your fall between rock would be good too.

[@maxwellwills1816]

It definitely needs a "yep" sticker on it

[@WombleRCmodelsandhobbies]

Vw beetle body vw beetle hotwheels 1:1 rig sneek peek . Injury this vid had it all once again mint vid thanks 👍 when will we see a hotwheels wall tour 🤔 and now a 1:1 scale rig tour🤔 your channel just keeps giving . PEACE!

[@James-bristol]

Great the review series,so honest great work,just what people want there’s enough bull sh%% on line .

[@traviscastor905]

His servos are pointing down. He needs to shorten his upper links to level them out and even tip slightly the other way. C-Bolt (C10 front links, Deadbolt rear links) stretch is the best imo.

[@Pabloisradical]

When you struggled to say rear wheel steering it reminded of the scene in the movie Cooties where the gym teacher try’s to say duel rear wheel.

[@SCALE_SLOTCARS_AND_RC]

As a total amateur in RC Crawlers, i just dont like the rear wheel steering its strange looking . Would look better with a bigger body ,but still appreciate the work Maxwell put into it ...hope the leg was ok 👍 Greetings from Latvia...Harry

[@Henry-zv6ui]

I run deadbolt rear , C10 front injora high clearance links

[@fernsolo]

I'm not a big fan of 4 wheel steering, I think it destabilizes the truck, but this one seems to be doing alright 👍

[@kolasaRC]

good job, this video made me sub. keep em coming, from Alberta Canada❤

[@24Yepp]

Thank you!

[@ryano8613]

Not sure but it almost looks like its going backwards..? Is it overdriving the rear tires?

[@24Yepp]

Not sure about the overdrive situation, wish I checked

[@tomwright943]

Looking at the 4 wheel steer and the body I just wanna give it some HAWK TUAH! and spit on that thang! 😂👍 On a serious note though...... I hope your leg is ok👍

[@24Yepp]

All good!!

[@rodulfosuspensionworks]

What is you designate a standard test wheel and tire combo and use that to judge all the builds people send you, that way tires will not be a variant.

[@jasonbecker4997]

Really seems like a big overdrive would help more than anything.

[@Bafcrawler]

Just smoked, perfect timing 🤘🏻

[@jimbo4203]

😊and ate supper

[@nouse4aname_]

Makes 3 of us...😆 ​@@jimbo4203

[@RadRaf]

Thanks for the easter egg! I have two of those just waiting for a good chassis like that! Can't wait! Also, please let us know you are still alive with that terrible accident and this wasn't our last video!

[@24Yepp]

I'm alive!!

[@Casitascrawlers]

Using rear wheel steer is like an art form it takes time there was a few spots where I think you could’ve made it with the proper use of it. The thing I noticed is the front lifting but as I’ve found once you get in that position with the front lifted stop & just move the rear wheels you’ll be able to see the front react & a lot of times you can use it to keep the front down but you have to slowly learn & it looks like you were starting to get a hang of it. Even with that I don’t think it would’ve made the line you said can be done & that’s based on wheel base.

[@24Yepp]

Yeah I definitely didn't use the 4ws to its full potential, I need to build one now...

[@Casitascrawlers]

@@24Yepp You could see after a bit you where getting it but I think your right it needs shorter front links & definitely high clearance links.

[@MicroMittenCrew]

Well, i guess ill be sending out my 4WS rig now.

[@joshuamccreary9279]

lol, be safe and RC on!!!!

[@Moog1984]

I am guessing not enough forward weight bias. Moving battery forward/down and adding some brass up front would probably help a lot.

[@johnnyhotshoe1292]

Links are set up like a ax24 (same front and rear) on a mazz cc chassis!? Never seen or thought of that.

[@DesignedRhyme]

Looks like c10 rears on both. With the added servo on the rear you need to compensate big time at the lower front. Speak from experience here as mine sucked till i added brass at the front. DJ Crawler inserts are amazing too, blue ones are super soft.. Edit, posted before the vid ended haha. Defo c10 x2

[@DesignedRhyme]

Also, do not like that body at all. Looks like a 1/28 body

[@24Yepp]

Good guess haha

[@DesignedRhyme]

​@@24Yeppit was a total guess haha

[@24Yepp]

@@DesignedRhyme the link setup hinders the performance, right?

[@DesignedRhyme]

@@24Yepp I'd have thought so as it messes with centre of gravity. Ideally & most commonly you'd have shorter links at the front, you can tune the suspension easier but as it has the 4ws he needs to also add the weight at the front. Is the battery set higher than normal?

[@brandonupchurch5015]

C10 fronts and deadbolt rears is what maxell needs to keep the wheelbase but up the performance

[@osbornerc9256]

It looks like it is c10 rears front and rear

[@ColoradoAdventureClub]

Need a dedicated remote to take full advantage of rear steer. Mixing the channels is so 10 years ago...

[@GrayFlam3]

Keep us posted if you decide to go to Urgent Care. Thats a nasty wound! You gotta be more careful! 🤣🤣🤣

[@77seriouspaul]

Something maybe a bit controversial but I’ve not personally seen anyone else do is to run a lower grip style of rear tyre when using a very aggressive front pattern, it does actually have its merits!

[@24Yepp]

Interesting

[@Cletusl3ocephus]

I bet the main problem is the weight bias. It needs more weight in the front axle.

[@toeshifter]

You gotta be careful out there duder. You were only given 2 knees. Protect them at all cost.

[@allenm00]

I enjoy watching your videos. I am not in this hobby.... Yet. I am confused about limiting the shocks with rubber bands. I can see limiting the center of the axle with rubber bands to prevent lifting but would think you are also limiting the articulation with all corners limited. Also, I hope you survived your serious injury. 😂

[@ryano8613]

Rear steel.....reeeal steerer

[@jimbo4203]

Some climbs its all about how low you got your rig , my free lcg modded scx24 jlu is my best climber, beats my trx4m every time

[@Highmvx]

I saw that junk sticker on the door 🤟🏻

[@24Yepp]

Oooooh yeah good catch, I'm about 10 miatas deep

[@juniormay13]

Had my hoonigan buggy in package until my 5 year old found it 😅 he told me "it's just a toy"

[@Casitascrawlers]

Maybe he lengthened it with longer links. But normally the front links are traditionally shorter.

[@nickmyers5036]

These trucks need a little more forward bias weight.

[@1622_SCALE_DIVISION]

Can I send you a plaster for that monster knee scrape 🤣

[@24Yepp]

😊

[@FYRC15]

It seems he did that to get front servo clearance

[@braddahdussifyoumuss596]

Man that leg looks bad my dude😰 might need surgery smae goes for the truck that thing was a turd😂😂 there is so much wrong going on with the geometry of the shock positioning and link positions and lengths of the links, looks like it had a gladiator rears in the front and rear lol but that’s just me. Dead bolt fronts and gladiator rears is the sauce bro🤙🏽 give it a try on your Karnage Rc lwb chassis and flat skid and you can thank me later 😂😂😂

[@smokey7tn4dub76]

Even links are no good and yes more brass up front.

[@diclexicschweb4748]

Lol u should do a mail time/bad unboxing once a muth id send sum crap

[@moeandco.]

“Doesn’t smell good” Please don’t stop smelling all the things

[@24Yepp]

@@moeandco. Cant keep everyone happy. I stopped smelling & people wanted the sniff test

[@JamesDirtRC]

Yea my Rocks are not the same as yours LOL . I think you need stitches

[@3sbrc]

Wow, some real battle scars after this filming.. the lengths and hoops, making this content.... 😂 i think the equal links are not helping it.. i did like the chopped look on it myself... thanks to You and Maxwell,peace

[@neverender158]

Hope they don't have to amputate your leg. Get well soon!

[@24Yepp]

@@neverender158 thank you!

[@MasterApeFPV]

You’ve only made a 100$ with all the work you put in?! 😮

[@24Yepp]

@@MasterApeFPV haha its all good, just here for the fun

[@boiledtea479]

Thank god he didnt start talking instantly. Still waiting for a 10min vid of him eating and drinking various things

[@24Yepp]

@@boiledtea479 Working hard to keep everyone haply. Soon.

[@boiledtea479]

@@24Yepp 👀

[@notice_fpv]

Your humor is so dry, I need to get some water before I click.