Rob Parker Explains Why Adam Silver Needs to Create an NBA Hall of Fame

THE ODD COUPLE - Rob Parker makes a case to Chris Broussard as to why NBA commissioner Adam Silver needs to seriously consider creating an NBA Hall of Fame separate from the Basketball Hall of Fame.
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[@HDX21]

I absolutely agree with Rob on this one. The NBA Hall of Fame is Definitely something to need to have it's own entity especially for players that were great in the NBA and not just in college or overseas or for the Olympics. I see absolutely no problem in this take for the first time in a while I actually agree with him on this one.

[@NT-or9wh]

NBA Hof is basically Top 75.

[@yonamzigu291]

​@@NT-or9wh then what is NFL top 100? NBA just needs its own Hall of fame

[@TheDragon704]

Like Chris said tho, what do you call the other HOF?

[@adrianzjackson7342]

@@yonamzigu291 The NFL top 100 is just the top 100 players that are currently playing going into the next season. The NBA top 75 is the NBA's list of their greatest players ever and they only add 25 players to the list every 25 years. Essentially a HOF for the best NBA players ever, just only exists on a website instead of a physical building.

[@BakiSmaki27]

I honestly don't see the need for an nba hall. They haven't left anyone out as far as I can tell so why the need for a separate hall which would take shine away from the international hall?

[@sokit2em]

Tony Parker and Pau absolutely belong in the HOF based on their NBA accolades alone Wade and Dirk are obvious

[@Arssante37]

Manu belongs there too in my opinion

[@SundevilRoadrunner]

@@Arssante37agreed.

[@Dipset415]

@@Arssante37💯hated his flopping ass but hey he was cold🤷🏿‍♂️

[@baldhero6850]

@@Arssante37put in my boy manu!

[@RLSmith-jt8qj]

​@@baldhero6850his in the hall already

[@OakTownBizz-zm8rx]

Bonds not being inHOF is terrible

[@angel-ij4xv]

thats baseball for you

[@blaketindle4703]

Rob is 💯on this one. Imagine if there was no Pro Football Hall of Fame, just a Football Hall of Fame! Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel would be in the same place as Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, and Lawrence Taylor!

[@ericreid8111]

YES But those two guys are deserving of college football hall of fame. But college is so lame and short lived, it dont matter

[@datsapaddlin]

I don’t know about that because it’s a bunch of guys that were great college hoopers that ain’t in the Basketball Hall of fame rn. Its only really so many guys in the NBA that are top tier great so if you were a great player for like 5 seasons you have a shot though.

[@blacknetsmed]

Then how come former NBA All Star Christian Laettner is not in the Hall by himself.

[@ramsesstafford4640]

It's disrespectful to putting Manziel in the same sentence as those Legends. At least Tim Tebow was a great leader he just looks like a linebacker and he throws like a linebacker.

[@ramsesstafford4640]

​@@blacknetsmedChristian Laettner is in the Hall of Fame through the 92 Dream Team only not individually. Just saying 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@albertolopez-qx2wx]

Rob Parker is delivering good takes lately.

[@bgood2lifealways36]

Rob's Students are probably calling him out.

[@wilsonmatt781]

This is the only good one. Rob is terrible

[@terrellwestbrook1396]

It's tiring the sympathy that players like Stockton and CP3 get for not winning a championship in the NBA "They deserve a championship" You deserve a championship by actually WINNING one

[@MAXPRESTIGEEE]

As goofy as D. Howard is, if Pau is a HOFer so is Howard. 😂

[@tonyochiha9798]

Dwight Howard is a 3 time Defensive Player of the Year and 5 time rebounding leader on top of his other accomplishments. Pao isn't on the same level as Dwight.

[@ThirdThinker]

D. Howard is a HOF regardless whether Pau got in or not lol

[@cholmanjr8345]

Agreed

[@zo62]

Don’t understand why you slamming pau gasol they played against each other in there primes and pau won. They can both go in. Just racism

[@AutistikManiac]

100 percent racism I'm so sick of people downplaying white players because of their racism They do it in music too Example :Eminem

[@realspitter2727]

Great segment guys. Appreciate the conversation, attentiveness, and passion

[@slickjustgotpaid9865]

Since Tom Brady retired rob parker has been giving good takes

[@darthmaulx3185]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@AduKofs]

hes not seeing red anymore. he's free

[@urbanradionation]

NBA Hall of Fame should be in Boston, New York or Philadelphia (Warriors). The only 3 original franchises that still exists today. If you Google Eddie Gottlieb, who basically started the NBA, Philadelphia might be most appropriate location.

[@TeoC3000]

I love this topic, and Rob makrs great points here. My only issue is when they bring up load management. They do this as a way to prop up the 80's and 90's. Load management is partially a product of media coverage like theirs which puts the emphasis only on championships and those who've won multiple. The media discounts the regular season just as much as the players. How many times do we hear the phrase. "It doesnt matter what x player does in the regular season they need to get it done in the playoffs" players like Harden, Melo, Lillard, Embiid, Ewing, Malone, Stockton, CP3, Westbrook, Barkley are constantly referred to as "best pkayers who never won a ring" so they're referenced in context to their lack of championships vs. Just being called great and appreciated for that even though much of their greatness came in the regular season. Todays players see this and know their legacyvwipp be defined only by what they do in the post season so why bother in the regular season. When you can olay close to 82/ year average a triple double play your heart out as hard as you can every night, and if ypu don't win a ring you'll be looked at as less than. Case in point, Westbrook.

[@rtee48]

Less than what? Other great players? That's fair. Are you stat padding or are you winning? Are you playing hard or playing hard for your numbers. Case and point, Westbrook.

[@TheKidwonda]

After doing some quick perusing it appears the championships added metric is used to determine how a player contributed to their teams CHANCES of winning a championship. So, NOT who actually won it.

[@soda8736]

OK. I knew it was reason. The odd couple just bashes analytics they don't understand in stead of doing a little research

[@dazgordon-hill2660]

If these stats said "KD is 0.75 responsible for his 2 rings", few would argue it. Saying MJ is responsible/6 = HE HAD GOOD TEAMMATES to pick up the slack!!!! Has been argued Rodman deserved FMVP vs SEA and Pippen noted for defending Magic vs LAL.

[@cap536]

The unfortunate thing with the NBA having its own Hall of fame is that a lot of the ABA players that eventually went to the NBA wouldn’t make it cause they had short NBA careers with the exception of a few players….notably Dr Jay and The Ice Man, so most of them wouldn’t make it and that’s a shame cause some of those guys pretty much are the inspirations behind Reggie Miller, Larry Bird, Jordan, Magic, Wilkins, Isiah Thomas and so many other players that also played in the 80’s to early 90’s…the ABA was the sh*t and an NBA only hall of fame would unfortunately leave a lot of them out

[@myllamaMan]

I think they can make special exceptions for a few obvious players like dr j

[@RobotronOG]

Nonsense

[@inspectah_ant]

The ABA/NBA merger happened 47 years ago so if any of those players were gonna get in they would of gotten in already. I think the argument is for guys like Christian Laettner who are in the HOF for what they did in college but were bust in the pros

[@BakiSmaki27]

Yeah so leave it way it is.

[@BakiSmaki27]

​@@inspectah_ant your comment made me curious about Laettner. So he didn't make the Naismith hall individually. The entire dream team is inducted in that hall but Laettner as an individual his individual career is not in that hall. He is in several other halls though.

[@2rawww4tvkd]

I’ll never agree with Brossard about Draymond being a HOF

[@eazyscottie]

Exactly. He’s hall of very good. If you can’t be the 1st or 2nd best player on good team for a decade straight, you’re not a HOFer to me.

[@Milehigh_]

​@@eazyscottieI agree with everything u said they only putting Draymond in there because of his rings

[@RLSmith-jt8qj]

​@@Milehigh_no there putting Drayton in because he been one of the best defensive players in the history of the sport and because he has won rings.

[@Milehigh_]

@RLSmith-jt8qj Draymond is not a hall of fame player to me he was just in the right system and benefited from playing with superstars kinda like Robert Horry, Draymond is a good defender and leader for Golden State, but he's not a franchise player that's gonna put the team on his back and will them to victory he's just a good role player in a good system

[@RLSmith-jt8qj]

@@Milehigh_ the warriors have been one of the best defensive teams in the league and draymond has been the best defensive player in them. he is a hall of famer

[@carlsagan2607]

It’s nice when you both agree every now and then.

[@DJ-ys9pv]

Davis Stern had tons of superteams, David Stern had way more scandals David Stern had a spotty commissioner tenure as well, most you can say about Silver is the Load Management and we know that started before Stern bc Jordan told us it would. With that being said, I agree about making a 2nd HoF or even a subsection of the current HoF geared specifically towards ABA and NBA players.

[@MrOneanddone91]

The NBA was way more popular in the United States under David Stern tho. It has turned into a Niche sport in the States under Adam Silver.

[@354allday]

Outside of Miami what other super team was created under Stern? NBA was actually watchable under Stern every team had their own identity. He didn't have to use shenanigans to draw eyeballs to the game like Silver play in games & in season tournaments like it's AAU or something.

[@postmastersgt1670]

I been saying this forever about not only the NBA but the NFL and MLB aswell. They just be putting any and everyone in there HOF. It needs to be a tier system or two HOF because at this point its losing its meaning and getting devalued by the year.

[@kinte1870]

NFL much harder to get in

[@anthonyanderson9303]

There's only like 500 people in the NFL hall of fame. There have been hundreds of thousands of NFL players.

[@TripleCubedTriune]

All the Halls of sorts are compromised the day they intentionally leave out athletes that have earned it. They are not cultivating professionals to be the best but to lead a stat.

[@georgeprchal3924]

Baseball is the only one that matters.

[@BakiSmaki27]

NBA doesn't have a hall of fame. The hall of fame nba greats usually go into is an international basketball hall of fame.

[@TheHiLiteShow7]

I disagree with the guys here. I just saw part of Becky Hammond’s speech and I appreciate her being able to talk to Pop directly. Basketball is the only truly global game America has exported so why not have an all-inclusive hall of fame? It gives people who play the sport in other countries excellence to continue to strive for, in hopes one day of being enshrined the same halls MJ, Kobe, Wilt walked.

[@kiyenakira8987]

God bless you, someone who thinks with the mind and tge heart. Greetings from Argentina

[@adrianzjackson7342]

Totally agree with this.

[@IrishDark]

They let absolutely ANYONE into the HOF anymore.

[@zxcv4090]

your comment doesn't make sense

[@theworkethic]

Learn to write, but maybe learn to think

[@1ZosoLZ]

“Anymore”? Really hope English isn’t your first language

[@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403]

@@zxcv4090It makes total sense. Toni Kukoc in the HOF, for example, is an absolute joke. If you’re going to let him in, then there’s no one that should be denied.

[@theworkethic]

@@zxcv4090terrible word salad. Needs to stay in school

[@Blacklist324]

I've been a Basketball (not nba only) fan for over 40 years. I have no problem with the Naismith Hall of Fame. It's the pinnacle of all of basketball.

[@jasonspades7775]

The top 75 is the hall of fame.

[@MrMac-zk5tv]

Yes, but that’s flawed! Someone like Klay Thompson is easily a HOF yet was snubbed out of the 75! Like come on! I’m taking Klay over some of those plumbers from the 60s

[@truthhurts837]

Nikola Jokic

[@TorSavvy]

So, how many championships has Robert Horry added??

[@soda8736]

He's not hall of famer

[@hitek9too255]

​@@soda8736He might get in. Iggy might get in too.

[@loganblack4885]

@@soda8736 Horry career average 27.3 points 14.5 rebounds

[@soda8736]

@@loganblack4885 ha ha. Are you you high,,,? The guy average 7 points

[@MrNaturalSez]

There is an NBA Hall of Fame--it's the "NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team" from 1996... plus a few (not all) of the players from their 75th anniversary.

[@cokethecomedian8895]

Rob lost his whole point by saying it should be called the pro basketball hall of fame so we wants the nba and aba included but not the international professional leagues?

[@brandancarroll6936]

Damn The play in doesn’t count towards Adam silver’s legacy that has literally changed the league.

[@chawonytube]

Basketball is an international game. If you separate them, then the game is no longer global compared to the other sports.The Naismith basketball Hall of Fame is here for historical reasons.

[@cbrown940]

Silver has The Bubble and with TOR, MIL, DEN and all ending chip droughts - it's arguable he restored competitiveness for smaller markets in response to dynasties. His legacy is sound already!

[@hitek9too255]

PREACH! Just oldheads complaining about things not being like they were.

[@timmartin2417]

Not being pro or con silver..and I’m legit asking …did he? I mean Toronto traded for kawhi don’t think that’s silver related? Didn’t the Steph/ kd warriors happen under him?

[@timmartin2417]

If you want to say he has a sound legacy that’s fine … I just don’t think it’s for the reason you listed

[@cbrown940]

@@timmartin2417 cool, your thoughts then?

[@onyx_might72]

NBA product hard to watch these days unless it's a playoff game or Christmas game.

[@blaketindle4703]

“John Stockton won 1.6 theoretical championships” WTF kind of BS is that?😂

[@brettthomas6327]

John Stockton is OVERRATED

[@AutistikManiac]

Saying John Stockton is overrated is overrated

[@swpdisciple]

I think the stat is saying that he played well enough to win 1.6 championships but just happened to win 0. If you believe the adage “not all championships are created equal” then certainly you can appreciate that.

[@brettthomas6327]

@@swpdisciple lol 😂 John Stockton was the reason they lost

[@swpdisciple]

@@brettthomas6327 no, they had Howard Eisley splitting time with him and he was older by the time they went to the finals. I recall them scoring like 54 points in one game in um, the 1997 finals. That entirely has to do with a lack of scoring punch. After Karl Malone they had a hard time finding a double digit scorer. The system kept them afloat as much as anything. I have a lot of thoughts about 1990’s basketball. I know it’s like 25 years in the rear view mirror but I don’t think people understand the implications of 6 expansion teams in 7 years (1988-1995), the sheer amount of consecutive bust drafts (1986-1991 and 1993-1995) due to injury, drugs, death etc…that’s why all of the best players were like 35yo + by the mid-late 1990’s. That hasn’t happened before or since. With that context, you can see why a 36yo John Stockton was still being asked to do too much.

[@LargeDude2023]

Great idea but don’t put it somewhere that nobody wants to go like Syracuse because no one will see it. Put it in one of the areas known for basketball like LA, NYC, DMV, or somewhere where people go like LV or Miami.

[@demarcoandrade9209]

John Stockton is only .6 behind Kobe 🤣🤣

[@jayyygjayyyg7733]

Yes, Rob!!! I've been saying this for years... It's becoming equivalent, to the "Participation Trophy"... Just a couple of Examples, Bill Walton was not an NBA Hall of Famer. Okay, he won the MVP 1 season. At no other time, he was a dominant Player in the NBA, and coming off the bench for a powerhouse Celtic team does not count. Player 2! Chris Webber is not an NBA Hall of Famer. He Never won an MVP. He played with 6 teams in 15 years. He made it to 1 All NBA First Team. Chris Webber and Bill Walton are Hall of Famers; because of their College careers... Just My thoughts!!!

[@JimBrave-ri1oc]

It's Walton's college career. As a pro he is only like the 35th best Center Maybe the 150th best player ever.

[@OGItachii]

Its the BASKETBALL hall of fame. Bill Walton was a legend at UCLA and won a championship for Portland too. Yes his career in NBA short but he deserves it. Webber I agree with. He was one of my fav players growing up but TMac shouldn’t of made it either

[@JimBrave-ri1oc]

Webber based on just talent in the games is still a top 10 PF of all time. in his prime he averaged 27 ppg 13 rebounds 5 asssits, 1.5 blocks and 1.5 steals. Led the Kings to the Championship if not for the refs cheating against the Kings. Also he is probably the 3rd or 4th most popular college player. He's as good as Iverson. Webber is a top 10 PF. He just didn't win All NBA first teams cause of Duncan. Can't fault him there like you tried to you idiot.

[@jayyygjayyyg7733]

Smiling! Okay, my words are in response to whether there should be an NBA Hall of Fame... Yes, I know it's the Basketball Hall of Fame. I'm not sure you read my entire statement. Now, my comments are based on players I have actually seen play. Bill Walton's Career was 12 years long, I don't consider that short. I don't know if you've actually seen Bill play. But, you are entitled to your opinion. I respect it! Thank you...

[@ozonespec]

Agree Bill Walton is not a HOF player. Webber averaged 20pts 10rb for His career so I can't say He's not a HOF player. He also Has 5 NBA all star to His resume. He gets in by a hair in my book.

[@thirstfen]

Start with the 75 team and boom that can be the base for the voting criteria for a basketball hall of fame

[@sportsandstuff99]

As long as the standards are high like the Pro Football and Pro Baseball I am all for it. Its an absolute travesty of some of the guys in the HOF. Richmond, Hardaway, Yao, and many more don't belong.

[@jsong21]

Sometimes... ONLY SOMETIMES... Rob makes logical arguements.

[@davoneallen4014]

It’s stuff like this why people hate analytics, it seems as tho they can make the numbers say whatever they want🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@dazgordon-hill2660]

And those numbers say "Stockton underachieved". Do you disagree with this statement (given his stats, playoff/Finals appearances, and playing with a top 5 all time scorer)? What do YOU THINK they're "trying to make these numbers say"?

[@MrOneanddone91]

@@dazgordon-hill2660 Bro the stat literally says that Stockton won 1.5 championships even the he won ZERO TF are you talking about

[@davoneallen4014]

@@dazgordon-hill2660 it saying he won a championship that he never won, that’s what it’s saying to me

[@dazgordon-hill2660]

@davoneallen4014 Wilt Chamberlain won two rings. According to this same article, his "championships added" rating is 3.9. So I ask again, rephrased: Did Wilt Chamberlain underachieve, or is this article "saying he won championships he never won"??? Tony Parker has FOUR rings... but rating is 0.5?!?! So are these analytics saying "He only won half a ring" or "He wasn't the main guy on the team"?? Allen Iverson has zero rings. Nash never made a Finals. Both are around 0.9 on this scale. Are you equally upset AI is getting some credit for "rings he didn't win".... or you just hate Stockton?

[@kjee09]

Western Conference championship? (John Stockton) 😂

[@blockcl]

"Lies, damned lies, and statistics."

[@TripleCubedTriune]

I had to rewind the beginning.. I don't quite comprehend what the heck ESPN doing.. & ain't trying to figure it neither.

[@jasonbecke]

Adam would finally do something right if he did create an NBA hall of fame. Wouldn’t surprise me if Shawn Marion made the hall of fame

[@workhard1333]

He wouldn't go sadly. N i like him actually!

[@brocklanders9259]

Why are sports casters in any hall of fame other than the sportscasters hall of fame, if they have one.

[@CJK-bt4ll]

How about Rochester? They were one of the originals. Maybe Fort Wayne?

[@LewGardner]

I’m fine with the basketball hall of fame as long as they keep the anniversary teams. NBA75 (with exception to a few names) really separates the elite of the elite.

[@christopherglasper9224]

I think that Kobe, Duncan, and Garnett class is better then that Jordan, Stockton and Robinson class

[@eazyscottie]

Agreed that’s be best HOF class ever

[@Milehigh_]

Same! 💯

[@dazgordon-hill2660]

Jordan has more MVPs than Kobe, Duncan and Garnett COMBINED!!!. But sure, whatever you say...

[@christopherglasper9224]

@@dazgordon-hill2660 what about Stockton and Robinson. Do they have more rings then them combined? Or mvps?

[@dazgordon-hill2660]

@christopherglasper9224 Dude, go read the article, instead of telling me what "should" be cos "you" say so!! *Jordan ALONE had more "championships added" than all but SIX Hall of Fame classes. Jordan going in with Robinson and Stockton easily pushed this class over the top"

[@catherinewilliams9680]

They just need to get rid of the analytics when it comes to Hall of Fame. Horry is okay, but his 7 rings as a role player isn't HOF worthy. I do believe, however, that John Stockton deserves to be a HOFer in despite of his not winning a title. Why? Because he owned two career records that will never be broken.

[@shopins2002]

Rob has gotten better at math. Good for him. 1 +i1 = 2 now whereas if Brady had lost to the Rams in 2018 SB then he would have been basically 50% in SB's because he would have been 5-4. Maybe Rob is just better at addition/subtraction and not percentages/division.

[@fp4946]

Adam Silver needs to make a Load Management Hall of Fame

[@Dryltd]

The NBA Hall of Fame should not move all the ones from the other. They should set the criteria first. Then see who makes it. Because if you keep them all just keep the current hall and just make a wing exclusive to NBA.

[@yonamzigu291]

criteria is easy those who had historic careers in NBA

[@fullmetal1766]

Tracy McGrady never made it out of the first round and is a career 40% shooter how the hell is that a hall of famer?

[@dazgordon-hill2660]

Style points

[@MrBimirud]

Why won’t Chris and Rob admit that ESPN wanted Jordan’s class #1 at all costs? Obviously Kobe’s class is #1. Jordan doesn’t need defenders. His legacy stands for itself.

[@thorntonwilliams3851]

Praising Jordan, in any, and every, context seems to be a form of job security.

[@xionxxx3359]

Kobe class wasn't number 1 Jordan had olajawon, Charles Barkley, John Stockton, Jerome Kersey. Nobody from kobe class better then Jordan or olajawon

[@mymanuel187]

The Hall of fame should be for the very best only, they let just about anyone in, its so watered down that its like an ESPY Award

[@franciscofletes1948]

Well it’s difficult because the NBA markets itself as an international game. So they are interested in getting more global not less. So I don’t think the NBA has any interest in divorcing from FIBA. They want to be like soccer. They want to be the premier league in a global game. The NCAA and the NBA and FIBA all have an interest in keeping the HOF as it is. They are all stronger together than any one of them is on their own. Most of the NBA money comes from global investment.

[@TDCatcher]

Put it in Hershey, PA where Wilt scored 100 pts!

[@yoandermulet3731]

Chris will you ever have that mic 🎤 sorted one day??😂

[@carlreynolds7043]

It’s past time that it should be an NBA hall of fame

[@leChandler24]

ESPN: we want jordan the GOAT! So we give Stokton championships 😂😂😂😂

[@hoodiemo_2339]

ESPN on crack for saying John Stockton add 1.6 champion added🤡😂😭

[@nserekoraymond8593]

Eye test should be only criterion for ranking best Hall of fame classes. Not championship. In fact stop ranking best Hof classes

[@keithwillis3761]

Rob was right at first with NBA hall of Fame. But when you say Pro Hall of fame that's what the current one is mostly but includes college players. Just restrict it to NBA Hall of Fame; not Pro because they have pro basketball Leagues all over the world.

[@crashdavis8431]

Syracuse actually has a historical reason. They had an NBA team also the 24 second clock was created there

[@babystephena3773]

Tmac is one of my favorite player all-time but he has set the bar low as far as getting inducted in the HoF..

[@WRNIIVIIII]

I raise you Yao Ming

[@MrThekingruler]

Rob is never ready.

[@jrev8089]

Someone tell Rob that it's the pockets that need protecting - not the pens.

[@St.SebastianGalasso]

the Pro Basketball HOF would include ABA, NBA, and WNBA greats.

[@user-cz8dc5nf5g]

Why?

[@im_an_alien196]

All the Hall of Fames should adopt some type of tier system. All of these players shouldn't be in the same hall of fame. It's insulting to the absolute best players that some of these lower level players are in with them

[@ericreid8111]

Na. Hall of fame is hall of fame. Like just because gronk is the best tight end doesnt mean Antonio gates was an undeserving HOFer

[@poppahoggg2587]

FACTS 💯

[@mourka01]

@@ericreid8111 prime said it best you need a hall of fame elite club on the second floor or something at the rate they keep diluting it.

[@anthonyanderson9303]

​@ericreid8111 all hall of gamers aren't created equal.

[@NT-or9wh]

@@mourka01There is one. They voted on the Top 75 NBA players. They’ll do this again for the Top 100 players on the 100 year anniversary.

[@Fidelis1776]

And this is why many people hate analytics.

[@tyharris9994]

" There are lies, damned lies, and statistics." - Mark Twain

[@soda8736]

But at least make an attempt to understand what they mean before ripping them.

[@dazgordon-hill2660]

​@@soda8736Decent 🥃

[@dazgordon-hill2660]

​@@tyharris9994 "John Stockton underachieved" Where is the lie?

[@tyharris9994]

@@dazgordon-hill2660 I was referring to the analytics wonks who managed to assign him a 1.2 Championship win-share when he won zero. The point is that you can make anything appear to be true by cherry-picking a particular statistic. Case in point- Biden constantly bragging about how more jobs were created during his tenure than any other President in history. Technically and statistically true, but only because the entire country was shut down and out-of work due to Covid when he came in. He leaves out that last part.

[@goodmangreatheart6716]

I agree with Rob. College sports have their own Hall of Fame. International sports have their own Hall of Fame. The NBA should have their own Hall of Fame.

[@freetheworld2671]

I always thought it was NBA now I understand the head scratchers

[@EzMoneyMir]

The spurs created load management and fans saying that the regular szn doesn’t matter made players embrace lm more

[@mg19cal]

4:43 load management and super teams *STARTED* under David Stern, don't pawn that on Adam Silver

[@catherinewilliams9680]

If you have a NBA Hall of Fame, it needs to be NBA/ABA Hall of Fame.

[@user-cz8dc5nf5g]

Why?

[@trombonejosh1]

Imagine Lebron with this analytic stat. Probably like 10.2

[@adingdingdiiing6740]

ESPN makes up stats for anything just to show people they have stuff to share. And it's more and more specific these days, it's ridiculous. Jokic even called them out in one interview. One of these days, ESPN will realease a stat about a player being the only one to record 24points, 6 rebounds, 2 assisits, while inhaling only 37 times, while wearing black shoelaces on blue sneakers. That's how ridiculous it's going to be.

[@adnanojd]

Championships added? Wtf they talking bout. Basketball HOF Is your overall impact on the game not just NBA, every level.

[@123456CBOY]

Lol

[@Therock007dmx]

I just tried to post this same question on Reddit yesterday why doesn’t the NBA have their own Hall of Fame?

[@emmanuelp8739]

"The Old Couple Show" back in the good old days when they were no super team, that's a lie, Chicago had a super team, Los Angeles had a super team, Boston Celtics had a super team, the Detroit Pistons had a super team, their definition of a super team is when players decide to team up and put their future in their hands versus allowing the organization trade them to a team or organization. So you think Rodman, Pippen, and Jordan wasn't a super team, you think Magic, Kareem, and James, and the list goes on, but they don't consider them a super team because the team either drafted them or traded for them. It doesn't matter how you come together a super team is a super team.

[@adrianzjackson7342]

That would be redundant and completely unnecessary. So what happens with all the players stuff that are currently in the HOF? Do you take all their stuff out and move it to the NBA HOF?? Or you just have a duplicate HOF that has half of the stuff that the old HOF has?? The only reason he wants this is so he doesnt feel bad when he thinks certain players shouldnt be in HOF but doesnt want to be a jerk by saying it on air. Adam Silver is already working on his legacy, with the Play-In tournament and now the mid-season tournament. Hes also looking to add more franchises and with him wanting to have more of an international soccer style with the different tournaments and stuff, I can easily see him creating a European division one day and adding teams overseas. This idea is ridiculous and basically already exists, just not with a building. The NBA Top 75 list. Very exclusive, they only add 25 players, every 25 years. If you want to turn that into a building of memorabilia and what not, feel free.

[@justanother1797]

It’s not the NBA HOFs, it’s the basketball HOFs. They count World Cup championships, and the Olympic.

[@straightup7007]

All four players are a automatic selection to me. When Paul Gasol played in Memphis he was really good and one of the best players in the league. When Gasol joined Kobe and the Lakers he was one of the main reasons the Lakers won championship. I do not see how some peoole compare Howard to Gasol. Gasol was a better player and had more impact on the game in terms of winning. Howard was a great defensive player and had sime impact as well early on until he went to Lakers and did not do to well. Howard definitely belong in Hall of Fame but he was not as good as Gasol who had greater offensive skills as well. Tony Parker is an automatic because he played a major part in those championships and was simply a great all around player. Wade and Dirk are automatic and no questions ask.

[@Ottokash]

Ima Kobe fan ain’t it ain’t no way gasol was better than Howard lmao Howard lead his team to the finals in his prime and lost to Kobe

[@straightup7007]

Gasol was better than Howard. When Gasol was in Memphis he was one of the best players in the league and his offensive skills alone were far better than Howard. Gasol was a very good defensive player as well. Kobe would not have those other two rings without Gasol.

[@davis2k1234]

@@straightup7007Stop I’m a Gasol fan and him and Kobe meshed well together but individually Gasol never won a single playoff game pre Kobe DHoward lead a team to the Finals as a No 1. And the 2000s was the PF era like 10-15 PFs we’re putting up same stats as Gasol he was never one of the best players in the league he was top 10 at his position maybe top 25-30 overall

[@kbthegoat824]

​​@@straightup7007learn basketball please. Gasol wasn't on howard level. When Howard got to lakers with a bad shoulder, kobe was done he suffered his achille at an old age. I guarantee lakers easily win multiple rings if Howard's was the one that came to la in 2007. Howard was a straight beast, took out a prime lebron to make the finals, was average crazy numbers on top of being the top defensive big man. Gasol was a 19ppg guy in Memphis and a bad defender, stop that nonsense.

[@straightup7007]

@@kbthegoat824 Stop talking foolishness. Gasol won two rings with Kobe and he was ine if the major reasons they won those rings. Kobe basically run Howard out of LA cause he was to soft. You got to be an american. Man give people from other countries their props and credit.

[@kendarius23]

And they say numbers don’t lie well somebody got explaining to do😂

[@shamichaelthompson6713]

The only black eye against Adam Silver is load management. There were Superteams created under David Stern. Remember, he retired in 2014. So, you have the unsuccessful 1996 Rockets, the unsuccessful 2004 & 2013 Lakers, Big 3 Celtics, the Heat, and the unsuccessful 2013 Nets. Just because a super team is UNSUCCESSFUL, doesn’t mean we get to pretend like it didn’t happen. I’m tired of this. Superteams were a thing long before Adam Silver took over. David Stern was a great commissioner, but Superteams were a thing under him as well.

[@dawsonmccall6070]

I like that the basketball HOF is global.

[@PrettyboyPa]

Adam Silver needs to grow some balls.

[@joemadisonstudios]

Those scores sound like they are giving credit towards deep playoff experiences

[@rezasanjari3305]

Spot on rob 💯- but is the euro league not a pro bball league

[@treatclark3407]

Yes we need a nba all of fame

[@Privateryannnn]

When Ginobili got in I was like all right whats the standard here cause no way a guy who made all nba third team twice belongs in a HOF

[@thorntonwilliams3851]

Ginobili is there because of his international career.

[@scottlarock7924]

Championships added is like the big picture per 36 stat

[@floydjr1478]

Everybody keeps trying to come up with the next best thing trying to be relevant. I care less about any analytics in any sport. The good old stats are good enough for me. I don’t need no OPS+ or WAR crap.

[@patrickpitamber]

Paul gasol Dirk Nowitzki Dwayne was and parker gear class you can start a super team with those guys

[@seanswinton6242]

Fuzzy Logic and Fuzzy Math

[@armenmaza4811]

According to my calculations I contributed to 10 championships even though I only played basketball in junior high.😂😂😂😂😂FOH!

[@skywalker2676]

They finna have Derrick rose in the hall of fame off sympathy votes smh

[@JimBrave-ri1oc]

Marbury was better and they are the same version of each other, Marbury was just better, Better Peak, better career. Both were horrible team players and losers.

[@ericreid8111]

I think its just simply too easy to get into the basketball hall of fame. They need to increase the standards. Nba or not. Like who cares if somebody had a great nba career, if they were ABSOLUTELY dominant in college or internationally, fine. But tje thing is they let "hall of really good" players into the "hall of fame"

[@tyemimms2184]

I agree with rob they need a Nba hall of fame

[@averyce2]

Rob get your flowers for this one!

[@aaronhutchinson885]

Were going to see a lot more..'good', but not great players in the HOF with the addition of the mid-season tournament, play-in, inflated stats due to pace, focus on defense etc. Based on the current criteria. Guys like Penny and Larry Johnson should also get in. Now that HS, Olympics/International accolades are being taken more into consideration

[@blacknetsmed]

"Current Criteria"?? Penny & Larry: 0 Championships, 0 MVPs, Less than 8x All Star, Less than 5x All NBA.

[@aaronhutchinson885]

@@blacknetsmed you're only looking at their NBA accomplishments. If this was the case, someone like Vlade or Dino Raja wouldn't be in. But they are, mainly based on their international accomplishments. If this is the case Marbury should also be in If you research, both Penny and Larry HS and college accomplishments, and then add their NBA careers, they should he in the HOF. I noted current criteria, because they started to expand beyond NBA performance for a lot of people. Both HS and College All Americans. Johnson was HS, JUCO and College POY. Not sure if that's has ever happened. Not including being AA both Years in D1 and a national championship.

[@blacknetsmed]

@@aaronhutchinson885 They don't really count High School accomplishments.

[@aaronhutchinson885]

@@blacknetsmed even their college, plus NBA is enough

[@ismaelmarcano3852]

I think they don't need it. It's about the impact on the sport, not just the league . Basketball is the sport with more rule changes of any sport and it would be worsened in the long run because of these rules helping average players make numbers to enter the hall 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@lordkaiser1404]

true.. it's about impact on the sport and not just numbers.. did you know that sylvester stallone in on the boxing hall of fame for being rocky?

[@Noir_Nouveau]

James Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame and then the NBA Hall of Fame. The first is about the sport of basketball. The latter is the National Basketball Association

[@user-eq9zc3me7i]

Rebecca Lobo is a Hall of Famer same as Kareem Abdul Jabbar!

[@future_teknokrat7585]

It should be located in Denver, CO, site of the first NBA game