Rob Reid: The Existential Threat of Engineered Viruses and Lab Leaks | Lex Fridman Podcast

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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
2:28 - The most entertaining outcome is the most likely
8:47 - Meme theory
12:07 - Writing process
18:54 - Engineered viruses as a threat to human civilization
26:40 - Gain-of-function research on viruses
38:50 - Did COVID leak from a lab?
46:10 - Virus detection
53:59 - Failure of institutions
1:01:43 - Using AI to engineer viruses
1:06:02 - Evil and competence
1:15:21 - Where are the aliens?
1:19:14 - Backing up human consciousness by colonizing space
1:28:43 - Superintelligence and consciousness
1:40:07 - Meditation
1:48:15 - Fasting
1:54:15 - Greatest song of all time
1:59:41 - Early days of music streaming
2:11:34 - Startup advice
2:24:45 - Podcasting
2:40:07 - Advice for young people
2:49:10 - Mortality
2:54:36 - Meaning of life
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Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/lex and use code LEX to get 1 month of fish oil - Belcampo: belcampo.com/lex and use code LEX to get 20% off first order - Fundrise: fundrise.com/lex - NetSuite: netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour 2:28 - The most entertaining outcome is the most likely 8:47 - Meme theory 12:07 - Writing process 18:54 - Engineered viruses as a threat to human civilization 26:40 - Gain-of-function research on viruses 38:50 - Did COVID leak from a lab? 46:10 - Virus detection 53:59 - Failure of institutions 1:01:43 - Using AI to engineer viruses 1:06:02 - Evil and competence 1:15:21 - Where are the aliens? 1:19:14 - Backing up human consciousness by colonizing space 1:28:43 - Superintelligence and consciousness 1:40:07 - Meditation 1:48:15 - Fasting 1:54:15 - Greatest song of all time 1:59:41 - Early days of music streaming 2:11:34 - Startup advice 2:24:45 - Podcasting 2:40:07 - Advice for young people 2:49:10 - Mortality 2:54:36 - Meaning of life

[@lesleyprior3818]

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[@ChristopherPausz]

Wow Lex we seem to have a somewhat same mind on music. Johnny Cash’s “ Hurt” is deeeeeply touching as well as Disturb’s cover. You are probably referring specifically the version he did on Conan O’ Brien. I liked that song so much I included it one of my videos as background. If you like guitar it you ought to check out Pink Floyd- all their albums from the 70s are masterpieces. Greatest guitar work found on song “Comfortably Numb”. The song will give you chills

[@msjdb723]

Thank you so much for taking the time to provide the time stamps. 👍🏼

[@themovingforest]

U.S. NAVY Tr3b spacecraft =☢Triangle UFOs & PAIS EFFECT =🏉TicTac UFOs ❔RESEARCH-- ☀️DR. SALVATORE PAIS and his patents ☢☀️👍

[@themovingforest]

Professor Francis Boyle should be a guest and outline the COVID-19 history of the gain of function research involved.

[@alvarez.l9422]

I’m not the smartest tool in the shed and don’t always fully grasp these conversations, but Lex and his podcast has really helped me discover new perspectives about life and everything in general! You are much appreciated Lex! 🙏🏼

[@King-O-Hell]

@@sllimshadyy it actually works way better the way its stated because it is hilarious and was probably intentional.

[@SamuelHauptmannvanDam]

That's actually beautiful.

[@leeroyjenkins8317]

Nailed exactly how I feel ✊✊✊

[@12235117657598502586]

Same! 🙂

[@jackroark6928]

you sure aren't 'cause it's "... SHARPEST tool in the shed..."

[@TheMongolianMage]

The best thing about Lex's podcast is getting introduced to interesting minds you've never heard of

[@youtubedrifter5594]

I would argue that's the best thing about life my friend.

[@TheMongolianMage]

If you're reading this you probably went from JRE to Lex. Maybe now try Curt Jaimungal for the same reason

[@youtubedrifter5594]

@@TheMongolianMage🤣😂🤣 No my son I know Lex from: Behavioral Biometrics for active Authentication. A Thesis submitted to the faculty of Drexel University. By. Lex Fridman. Give it a read. It's his first dissertation. Come back when your done. Then we can talk 😉

[@kingyeti6336]

@@TheMongolianMage I came here from a week long radiodawgs stream of old real ass podcasts episodes with nick mullin and Tim Dillon

[@bearschmidt3180]

Fact

[@lorenza2589]

15:49 - spot on for the creative process. I've made AAA games and have been a painter for 15 years, 90% of everything produced no one ever sees.

[@adeline7980]

that's cool, where you a writer on the games or programmer, or something else? if you don't mind me asking

[@lorenza2589]

@@adeline7980 I've done both design and art for them.

[@les6230]

Sincerely appreciate all the effort and intellectual rigor to examine these topics in depth, truthfully and without bias. One of the only places you will get this kind of discourse, honesty and insight. A great service to humankind.

[@petefromdewoods5157]

The obvious obfuscation of the factual chain of events , and at such level of coordination causes one to question so much more.

[@broganjosh4729]

I love how he constructs his sentences. Absolute wordsmith.

[@coimbralaw]

Who? The guest or the host?

[@EduardsRuzga]

Once again, such a broad, deep and fun conversation. From synbio, to startups, music, brown noise. Not all talks have that effect but such as this... It feels as if it pushes me deeper in to our civilisation culture and Zeitgeist. Huge kudos to you Lex for what you are doing here.

[@craigb4913]

Great conversation, and I love that Plato quote at the very end!

[@_symmetry_]

I don't remember thirsting on so much profound and pure beauty than what you generously offered us with Rob Reid here Lex. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. That was absolutely life changing.

[@x0rn312]

This guy makes one of the best cases against gain of function research I've heard yet.

[@menwithven8114]

I've been a JRE fan since I was in rehab in 2015 and have started following 100s of comedians and podcast all through Joe. TFATK, Theo, YMH, JOCKO PODCAST and countless more that truly helped get past my addiction and has made me a curious, happy loving person with a great family. LEX, as a self decided JRE historian lol you have done absolutely amazing with your platform. Very candid like JRE but overall much more challenging intellectually just to follow along some times but that it is what elevates your platform above others. There's million of people like me who made A's all through my life and had a full ride for an engineering degree in at Purdue but I was a fuck up and partyed out TWICE. 15 years later I now run a grass cutting business but truly appreciate having my intelligence tested. btw next time you see a guy cutting grass he may be listening to a 3 hour conversation about astrophysics or like me just listening to the same 3 hour conversation repeatedly about string theory and understanding about 50% of it lol.

[@Theflyingviener]

Amen to that!

[@zcounts]

WEWEWEW, gonna have to avoid the YT cops on this one. Censorship is afoot. Appreciate the intellectual freedom always on display at the Lex Fridman podcast. Blessings!

[@coimbralaw]

How so? Why would they?

[@lunix5438]

It's funny, I watched this podcast to hear the lab leak perspectives, by the end I had totally forgotten about it. They went so many awesome places. Quite a journey.

[@huxleigh2873]

Aw, loved this one! Thanks kindly to you both.

[@strategy_gal]

This is such an interesting and enlightening conversation. Thanks for producing great content!

[@bennguyen1313]

Rob's podcast is one of my favorites.. the amount of research he does on the subject/guest is incredible. Didn't know he was a musician and part of a band... anyone know where to find that? Regarding the 19m mark on change, I recommend interviewing Ken Ford of the IHMC, he suggest we often confound change with progress, and points out how someone from the 1820s waking up in the 1920s would have experienced a completely foreign world.. indoor plumbing/germ-theory, cities/skyscrapers, motors/cars/planes, radio/telephone, etc.. whereas the rate of progress between 1920s and 2020s may not be so stark.. computers/smartphones for sure, but more evolutionary changes rather than revolutionary. Regarding the 28m mark, I understand the 1918 Influenza virus (H1N1) is similar to the avian virus in that it attacks the lower part of the lungs, so for a bird flu to be a pandemic would require 1) a variant of the 16 Hemagglutinin genes that can infect human cells 2) a variant of the 9 Neuraminidase genes that can spread from human to human (either via air, saliva, feces, etc) Since the total number of combinations for HaNY is only 144.. is there a reason why it can't be predicted which combination is the one to look out for? Finally, Rob's advice on Talent Stacking is very similar to that of Bret Weinstein, Scott Adams and David Epstein BTW, I think Lex's interview with Bret is a must-listen-companion-episode to this one!

[@sirousmohseni4]

I learned so much from this conversation. Thanks

[@stuffylamb3420]

Wow, brown noise is amazing. I'm definitely going to be using this

[@susanrosegale6646]

Lex thank you for interviewing Rob Reid - what a great interview, both of you!

[@DamienWayne-qv7yi]

Hey man I meant to say it since I saw your podcast with Anthony Pomp. But thank you so much for bringing brown noise to my attention. I've always used white noise to sleep, but brown noise has been a real game changer for me. Thank you man.

[@alekseysoldatenkov5675]

2:11:34 the startup advice section is great. A must listen for people trying to start a company.

[@malachi5813]

As always very good interview, your respect and open minded makes your a lifesaver in a world drowing in pointed finger, spocibo again Lex!

[@david-joeklotz9558]

Rob Reid is one of the most eloquent speakers. What an interesting interview. And of course, Lex is always excellent

[@LucidTrading]

Such a great podcast, whenever i turn your podcast on i just can't turn it off. Bravo!

[@ryanshelton3142]

What has Lex got for ya??

[@franleplant]

2021 has been a great year for you lex, and that makes happy, you certainly deserve it all

[@catherinelittlebear9863]

Thank you for this video!

[@moodulated]

Using noise (I prefer deep blue to brown) to help with concentration. How have I not heard about this. Best tip ever.

[@nancyrobertson9256]

Bravo! Excellent discussion.

[@ishtar0077]

I haven't been here in while. The channel hasn't change one bit ..giggling. Love you Lex

[@sathanimations1457]

2:35:32 PLOT TWIST: His camera battery is fine, it was Lex's motor circuits that failed and left him frozen in his robot pose.

[@Shwettyapple]

Fascinating discussion. Thanks for doing it, it may save the world.

[@austroasian4123]

Thank you lex for these bangers of podcasts and happy Father’s Day!

[@motherboardiiii1624]

T.h.a.n.k.s f.o.r w.a.t.c.h.i.n.g f.o.r m.o.r.e g.u.i.d.a.n.c.e +1..-5..-7..-5..-2..-0..-8..-4..-0..-6..-5 W•A•T•S•A•P•••''.

[@JohnParish73]

Lex brother, you are smashing it outta the park lately. Keep it up!

[@maggyfrog]

respect to lex for dedicating an entire podcast episode to this issue.

[@demun6065]

Could've had a better guest to this. Joe Rogans expert on epidemiology done a better job.

[@johnnymatias3027]

Brown noise is like far away traffic, white noise is TV static, pink noise is kind of like rain and TV static together. Brown noise is incredibly soothing to someone who either grew up in/near a city or even a busy highway, or used to get up early on a regular basis when early morning traffic was the predominant sound. I get flashbacks to doing my paper route at 16 at 4am or 5am on Sunday mornings.

[@vincentrusso4332]

Happy fathers day fellas. Buckle up!! Here we go!

[@frankpops645]

Thanks,

[@niemanickurwa]

You too mate

[@ReddRewka]

Lex Fridman, I already knew, but just by listening to this intro I am reminded, you are a great legend. Thank God for KZbin to provide the opportunity for great people to become known from all around the world.

[@michelles9897]

Happy dads dad to your dad who looks so very much like you 💕💜💕 hugs from austin 🤗

[@JamesFrederickstech]

What an amazing conversation. Way beyond what the title advertises.

[@CraigHollabaugh]

Won't Get Fooled Again, excellent choice. Heard it 100s if not 1000s of times in my life. Thanks Lex.

[@OriginalRaveParty]

Your introduction was perfect Lex.

[@javen.burchell]

Amazing pod casts really enjoy your conversations. White noise = equal amplitude among the the listenable Frequency spectrum 20Hz-20kHz. Brown noise = Higher amplitude at lower frequencies decreasing in amplitude as the frequency increases Within the human hearing spectrum.

[@romanmanner]

I used to listen to After On religiously; I loved that podcast.

[@umasordini9843]

Our first computer was purchased for access to Napster. Ultimate music source. Strangely enough, the same times saw a huge increase in music stores. It cause many youths to make their own music. (further meditation required)

[@aaron6787]

Used to watch you and Joe on KZbin. Now i watch you on KZbin and you on youtube whenever I can't get Spotify to work for Joe. Like most of the time. Cheers to the increased volume!

[@GiddyUpTime]

Thank you Lex 🙏🏽

[@barnyardshenanigans8576]

We're assuming accidental, of course. Deliberate would provide maximum entertainment.

[@cyberft]

The irony of the own goal of US virus research/outsourcing everything to China is maximally entertaining.

[@demun6065]

This guest didn't assert anything. Felt like he was watching his words to keep his job/funding.

[@myrtle1234]

@Cyberft One must learn to distinguish between the US and elements within the US government. This was a global power grab on the part of multinationals.

[@cyberft]

@@myrtle1234 not exclusively. The US has been exposed as a collection of perverse incentives at every level, operating under the guise of freedom.

[@stuffylamb3420]

China releasing the virus to cripple the west and speed up their inevitable rise to the world's sole super power spot is my favorite conspiracy theory. China's economy is the ONLY one that grew last year (if you can believe the numbers).

[@OutpostH]

Excellent interview. This is confirmation of the fact that the company I work for does not have my wellbeing at heart or value my skill set. But only it’s driving force/aspersion/ambition/direction is to remove the oil from the engine and fuel jet skis in Miami. Time for a change. Oh… I’ve found it easier to listen to your long form content on the podcast as opposed to KZbin. Thank you.

[@jaimebrooks51]

This guy’s logical & grounded observations on GOF research & the likelihood & history of BSL leaks is on point. This mode of thinking is key to make sense of current events. However, his reductionist views on the nature of consciousness & his application of the infinite to a finite tool (the mind), exposes a self-imposed limitation on the potential to expand awareness beyond our current beliefs, which ultimately sets a trajectory of nihilism and annihilation. My two pennies. ❤️ Peace!

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[@gigagerard]

Never mind the bots here. ;-) Rob Reid just posed this as an interesting new viewpoint in the debate: that consciousness is not required per se for an intelligent computer.

[@Scaevola77]

You jest, but we Canadians have been thinking about absorbing the States - we just haven’t done it since the hockey has been decent of late.

[@marioarias9942]

We don't want to learn a whole new language. Americans are lazy you know.

[@stagename2]

😂😂

[@sugar_nutss]

Loved this conversation!

[@sugar_nutss]

@@cryptosrus2505 thanks for replying!

[@kaylacarr2200]

My work shift starts soon-ish but this just dropped. My conclusion? Looks like I’ll be getting 4 hours of sleep. I’ll happily relinquish rest to listen to this 😉 Thanks, Lex for consistently bringing the best possible content. Forever your biggest fan / crush from afar 😘

[@AliBoyy1]

Yea this is what we need thanks Lex good job

[@mirrorengine]

a possible explanation for brown noise working so well for concentration is it's the same spectrum as wind, waves or forests which are generally very relaxing for the human mind 😊

[@timothyhenry3841]

Very important talk. This needs to be a global discussion topic in the next years.

[@diwakarkumar1469]

"I think that particularly the authoritarian governments are unbelievably reluctant to any fallibility." Very true

[@lyricsniffer]

Nice talk, ty

[@Rynhelms]

Another absolute unit of a show good job lex

[@warhag]

After watching "Inside" from bo burnham and you talking about haunting music, I would greatly suggest him as a guest. After watching that I cant stop thinking about it and I think you'll dig it. Welcome to the Internet did something to my brain, I just cant stop thinking about it also doesn't help that its super catchy.

[@Mike360infinity]

Hey Lex you probably won't ever read this but you have been a great influence on helping me choose a master's degree in data science and shifting my career from digital marketing to a more technical field. Thanks a lot for your podcasts and sharing your thoughts and love.

[@ROchoa-pd5qo]

Dont know if you read the comments but my dude, you have high quality interview skills in a more humane way than most, respect.

[@neptunium7121]

We live in an exceptional era where nature is subsidiary to us humans, in that way nature is not capable of doing that (a virus) because WE are in control, not nature. (modern medicine doctrine) That is what this guest is really reflecting on. It is the question which forever will carry our species: how developed are we..?

[@ianpollard4501]

1:15:00 I wish I agreed with them on this but new ideologies have come to light where I can see a individual finding justice in finishing us of.

[@raineamihan]

Watching this podcast triggered my brain with so many questions, but the most mind boggling one is: does anybody know the name of the hedgehog?

[@hayleysquires]

Thank you Lex!

[@MsMrshanks]

Thankyou 👏

[@0iettatore]

"The night is still young in terms of Canada"

[@ezrahn]

Would be funnier if Mexico became a super power, built a wall, and told Americans to stay home 😀

[@margaretklassen172]

Americans will come running up shortly. Great people, but I hope they leave their problems behind.

[@coltonsnyder1262]

I find it fascinating that you say people with malevolent intentions tend to be worse at creating technology. It's something I completely agree with. A working hypothesis that I am investigating is how negative affective states limit creativity, from the individual to meta-societal level, especially in areas of technology. High levels of stress from more negative/traumatic/fear based states of mind tend to lead creativity in tighter loops/iterations. For instance, much of the technology developed during times of conflict, specifically for conflict, whether direct or indirect. The internet, for instance, began blossoming toward a much broader functionality after being made available to the public. Going from mostly military intelligence communication to a hub of communication for everything from academia, to finance and business, to enertainment, and in a full circle kind of manner, an entire virtual space where idea sharing can lead to more technologies being developed that incorporate the virtual space where the ideas were birthed and explored. This is just one of the many examples of how creativity especially in technology, is limited, even if just in scope of possibilities perceived, by "negative" affective states, intentions/or purposes in the creation process. Inspiration is a lighter energy that occurs more when given the space and more positive attitudes, and our ability to perceive and connect ideas and possibilities increases when our mindset is less stressed, consciously of subconsciously.

[@leeroyjenkins8317]

Lex you are a LEGEND ✊🤘

[@aiikaiik]

1:57:40 Sound of Silence by Disturb. I agree sir 💯

[@Ahabite]

1:13:48 ish : failure to understand the exponential progression. There is a great talk on this by Prof Bartlett called, "Arithmetic, Population, and Energy" here on youtube.

[@jamesjoyce1850]

Thanks Lex.

[@geraltofrivia7018]

I am going to see this vid asap before YT decides to take it down

[@Built_By_Bacon]

This guy is doing some phenomenal work.

[@sylviaorr3027]

Good morning Lex and Rob.

[@stagename2]

As a writer I foster the idea of Muses and being a conduit for the universe. It allows for flow in the first draft. Then the “editor “ comes in with great effort to make sense of parts that haven’t found there place yet.

[@shelbzillathrilla]

Good work Lex.

[@freedomshapes]

He’s right about the Disturbed cover of “sound of silence” on the Conan Obrian show being the best live vocal performance ever captured on video. Even THINKING about it gives me the chills and tears me up. It’s an absolutely phenomenal performance and arrangement. I’d argue top it’s 2 of all time, up there with Whitney Houston’s star spangled banner.

[@juliedriscoll8551]

I’ve listened to that more times than I can count. A stunning rendition!

[@gayupgayup4834]

Great Video

[@HookLineAndSinner]

Such a beautiful intro.

[@carlrodalegrado4104]

I love the cute Wall-e and Eva sculptures at the desk

[@williamaniuk948]

Best one by far

[@WebnSundry]

Hi Lex, Huge longtime fan. Can/Are you considering anyone in expertise, that can come on and discuss the infrastructure bill that we are trying to get through congress in the US. It would be huge if you can get some heads from both sides of the Aisle. It is of my personal hope, that we can utilize such a bill to revitalize our infrastructures and federal civil policy in such a way that might play out such as the "new deal" did in the 30's. I'm by no means an expert on any of the topics I think are pertinent to this discussion, but I think this bill is more important then we realize and I think it should be in the forethought of our minds as people of the country and the world.

[@garthwoodworth3558]

Rob Reid, talking about writing and editing.… Would you say those hours of editing are mostly after the bulk of your first draft is completed? I’m guessing 95% then. Would you give your guess for percentage for each of “throughout” and “after first draft”? Thanks in advance.

[@gigagerard]

I guess not. He says something about the editting helping him with further writing. Of course if you have enough inspiration, write on!

[@gayupgayup4834]

@@gigagerard do not message him he’s a Scammer

[@ProGame62]

Please have a podcast with mick west! Great stuff

[@melellington1333]

Re "Backing up human consciousness by colonizing space" There is at least one Star Trek Next Generation episode (probably more), where Picard encounters an alien civilization long dead, but the history of which is backed up by the technology they left behind traveling through space. There are also episodes in Star Trek where a very technologically advanced civilization overcame the theory of the great "filter" explanation as to why we see no evidence of aliens in the cosmos. They became an ostensibly simple agrarian society-and yet were still able to use its advanced technology to overpower the Enterprise. Much of what I see discussed on Lex's channel has already been anticipated for many decades on the various Star Trek TV series.

[@RussellThomason]

If you appreciate the way music can make you feel, or how music can perfectly describe an emotion without words, then I highly recommend listening to NiN- Still.

[@klausmaccus4397]

What makes love and creation more profound than despair?

[@youtubedrifter5594]

Contagions are synonymous within language and ideas, as they are in rudimentary biology. What we need to strike is a balance of ideas and practical application. Ideas spread like a virus. Application is the map of what we know works. Skepticism should be based in a simple refractory process such as Entropy and occam's razor. Simplicity breeds efficiency and efficiency breeds practical application. Ideas are important. However just like in our bodies we have responses to combat viruses and sickness we as a society need to develop an auto immune response to ideas that don't serve us. Education is the key. Even more so is the responsibility of purveying such knowledge we impart a respect of wisdom. Time makes fools of us all.

[@azeazell]

Awesome lex!

[@user-sj7ol4br7n]

Lex is life ❤️🧘‍♂️

[@umasordini9843]

Good question, why do we cover up mistakes? I've seen that cause spectacular damage.

[@gigagerard]

Actually they began covering up a possible lab leak early in the pandemic. The virus looked like it could have escaped from research at the Wuhan lab. But then the worry at the WHO was to keep China on board to fight the pandemic, which they did impeccably. And a public panic needed to be avoided as the experts underestimated how well people would cope. But most importantly, virologists were needed more than ever to fight the pandemic. They couldn't risk the public outrage about the risks taken in the sector. So a lab leak was a big no no.

[@umasordini9843]

@@gigagerard interesting. I have not looked at that aspect before. Thank you for the idea. I will spare you the arguing :)

[@gigagerard]

@@umasordini9843 One of the people behind the scenes who set up Kristian Andersen et al. to disrepute the lab leak hypothesis was Ron Fouchier, known for his Gain of Function work on H5N1 bird flu. His contributions have been greyed out, so there you go!

[@00OG]

That Disturbed cover is truly epic

[@MillerKevinG]

I have been dying to see Rob join Lex.

[@theukulelecowboy]

...but still alive to make a KZbin comment after it happened 😅

[@cbar6537]

Fishing is my meditation

[@ChaiTimeDataScience]

Oh awesome.....Time to start my Monday morning chores :D

[@austinjohnston6468]

Lex have you read Hyperion? AI, space travel, synbio… prophetic prose indeed. Please add this book to your list if you have not experienced the Shriek.

[@farhantejani8287]

Hey Lex! I would love to hear someone come on to talk about brain organoids!

[@nancyrobertson9256]

Yes. Those creepy brain organoids. Like an episode of Black Mirror.

[@farhantejani8287]

@@nancyrobertson9256 haha we are inching closer towards black mirror everyday

[@nancyrobertson9256]

@@farhantejani8287 All McAllister, all the time.

[@adeadgirl13]

AI bio weapon research. That's what we should be doing guys. It'll be fine. Don't worry.

[@AdMBandLeader]

Yeah, barring a few casualties on the way to achieve a secure environ.

[@gigagerard]

Build in a vulnerability to computer virusses into the super AI and let it suffer...?

[@adeadgirl13]

@@gigagerard only if we also give it control of all the nuclear codes.

[@gigagerard]

@@adeadgirl13 The machine will figure out the code is 00000000