Roth deserves a medal for playing the most loathsome villain I've seen on screen for a long while
@AstonishingSodApe4 жыл бұрын
janesgems7 I think Kevin Bacon in Sleepers is more loathsome.
@Jared_Wignall3 жыл бұрын
Got nominated for the Academy Award, Golden Globe and won the BAFTA for Best Supporting Actor, but should have won all of those awards, not just the latter.
@evolutionizer153 жыл бұрын
I think Cunningham, Tavington, and Commodus would be best friends
@Exxeron-ob3tv3 жыл бұрын
He was just as good in the Musketeer. Try out "4 Rooms" if you want to see his range.
@jacobpeters54583 жыл бұрын
best scene was when Archie's sitting with the neck bandage and responds to Montrose who says, "He speaks! One should never underestimate the healing powers of hatred!" and walks away while Archie sits there just looking annoyed as usual xD
@kmlgraph11 ай бұрын
When Roth takes off the wig, he immediately drops the condescending smirk from his face and gets serious. Excellent actor.
@marysepradet6162Ай бұрын
yes, Tim Roth is brilliant in all his roles .. love him too !
@Stumpyblue28 күн бұрын
Absolutely. Such a great reveal. Not a fop at all but a psychotic killer.
@ForumLight6 күн бұрын
Just a curiosity: (Yes, it's a movie). But they didn't make it look like Archie was trying very hard to pull the blade out of Rob's hand. Once you see him reaching for his own blade, anyone out of desperation would at least try to use their entire body as leverage to yank that blade out, and it seems to me it would be impossible for Rob to keep it in his hand. Thoughts?
@drewfuller86606 күн бұрын
@@ForumLight Yeah, it wouldn't really be possible to keep the blade in your hand like that. That basket hilt small sword was intended for dueling. It would be nearly dull near the base, for parrying, but were razor sharp near the tip, and doubled edged. It would slide right through the hand, blood as lubrication, no matter how firmly it was gripped. I really like this fight scene. It reminds me of The Duelists, and it's the kind of thing we just don't get fro Hollywood anymore. Rob Roy is over matched by a smaller, faster, more skilled opponent. Yeah, Cunningham is toying with him, but he's also letting him bleed and exhaust himself. I wish they'd found a better way for Rob Roy to pull out a victory.
@marysepradet61626 күн бұрын
@@ForumLight yes, you are probably right ... but it is a movie and it is essential that Rob would win at the end !
@jackdillon590311 ай бұрын
No soundtrack or words needed to build the tension and the battle. Only the sound of steel on steel, on flesh and on stone.
@stellarcubicbeam77604 күн бұрын
Same in the Phantom Menace, but a different outcome.
@dars52293 жыл бұрын
I like how this duel is pretty much decided in the first fifteen seconds. You can see Tim Roth's character clearly reading Liam Neeson's body language. He can see he's used to a broader, heavier blade. So he plans to humiliate his opponent with scratches and slices. But Rob Roy does give him the challenge and exhilaration he was looking for. Cunningham wants a duel with a legend that he can boast about for years to come, but he doesn't want it to be a short anecdote. Rob Roy simply wants to kill a bastard.
@mickeytwister47212 жыл бұрын
That makes so much sense. It was Archibald vanity that got him killed when he could have easily have won. Pretty funny.
@cblancin72442 жыл бұрын
In my opinion Rob Roy understands his opponents style and basically employs the old rope a dope strategy, he behaves as if he's physically spent to lure his opponent into being overconfident and finds the right opportunity
@mickeytwister47212 жыл бұрын
@@cblancin7244 nah, he's was F'd. But God gave him a window and he took it.
@javier13332 жыл бұрын
@@cblancin7244 no nobody goes to that extent to lure somebody in, counting on the opponent not just cutting off your head immediately.
@punchkitten8742 жыл бұрын
What you miss is that Liam Neeson is a good bit taller than Tim Roth. You can see it when they face off. Cunningham's (Tim's character) tactic of rushing in quickly then backing way way off negated his opponent's reach advantage.
@erebus73062 жыл бұрын
0:48 Him taking of the wig completely changes the tone of the scene. Incredible how simple but effective it is by almost taking of a mask in some form.
@thunderpooch Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! With the wig you can't help but think he's just a pompous dandy who lays around a lot musing about the politics of the monarchy. The second he takes it off, you're like, "oh shit, sure he might be small, but he looks likes he's a super serious gym rat that trains at fencing a lot." 😄 You look back at Rob Roy and think he's the one who looks unserious. You can't be good at killing people having long hair. It's absurd! Surf broskies, bohemians, and hippies aren't ruthless killers.
@TotalTech2. Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. It's weird but somehow removing the wig reveals him for the monster that he is.
@georgemartyn5268 Жыл бұрын
@@TotalTech2. nothing to do with him being a monster. him removing the wig symbolizes him getting serious, dropping the prancing puff facade that he has to put on to blend in with the upper class and revealing his true self - a dashing stallion; his moral disposition is irrelevant here.
@TotalTech2. Жыл бұрын
@@georgemartyn5268 Hmmm Idk. Maybe you are right.
@katymoore3970 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Its also to highlight the complete contrast to the sword fight at the start of the film where he effortlessly and foppishly runs rings around his opponent. I always saw the wig take off as an acknowledgment and demonstration that he means business in this fight. He expects to win but knows he has a serious and determined opponent in Rob. The utter disbelief on his face when Rob grabs the blade seals it.
@StormyWeatherUK6 жыл бұрын
Better start practicing his skills if he wants to fight Darth Maul in 4 years time!
@antoinepichon14265 жыл бұрын
Hey look the sword fight montage of this man that is very good
@StormyWeatherUK5 жыл бұрын
@@antoinepichon1426 Thank you!
@antoinepichon14265 жыл бұрын
@@StormyWeatherUK beetween swordsmen it's normal
@iancraig54155 жыл бұрын
Well, he did die so...
@StormyWeatherUK5 жыл бұрын
@@iancraig5415 Didn't practice enough then XD
@ivydog20096 жыл бұрын
The speed of Tim Roth's character (or the fencing double who performed the action - especially in the wide shots) is terrifyingly violent and ferocious. He just races at him. An attack of just pure violent speed. I agree that it's the best sword fight in cinema. Seems the most real, violent. People rarely act like they're about to really die on film. Usually, all you get in filmed sword fights are the stupid, staged, fake, back and forth crap. It’s even interesting that the sniveling, arrogant, asshole nobleman (Tim Roth's character) is a skillful fighter - once he takes his wig off.
@Floridaburg-6 жыл бұрын
Charlemagne Bildgefilter rob Roy has a particular set of sword skills
@jamesdobson96226 жыл бұрын
I don't like Tim Roth
@corcon69765 жыл бұрын
@@jamesdobson9622 You know Tim Roth? Wow!
@CalliopeCarina5 жыл бұрын
It was Tim Roth (and Liam Neeson) no stunt doubles. Makes it all the more impressive and impactful, considering how much is at stake. Fantastic film.
@CalliopeCarina5 жыл бұрын
@@corcon6976 lol, he obviously doesn't or he wouldn't dislike him...
@rigatone2 жыл бұрын
I remember being a minor extra, one of the 'rabble' when Tim Roths character was fighting Will and although I might be mistaken, I thought there were more people in the room when Liam Neeson and Tim Roth fought, memory gets hazy. Anyway, Tim Roth's sword master double looked uncannily like....Tim Roth! He was deadly. I mean, ridiculously talented with a blade. Tim Roth was also an incredibly nice guy on set, so was John Hurt, no egos, just great actors. Didn't speak to Liam Neeson but he always acknowledged the crew and cast so he certainly came across as a decent guy. Lots of fun filming. I thought Michael Cayton-Jones gave a lot of respect to Scotland by actually filming it in the country. Different film from Braveheart but like many comments, the action scenes were realistic and whoever played Liam Neeson's double in the water did a great job
@AstonishingSodApe2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Love behind the scenes stories. Any more you’d like to share?
@WakefieldTolbert2 жыл бұрын
Always interesting to hear the backstory...
@warrencrawfordart2 жыл бұрын
That’s a great insight, mate.
@cantbanme8971 Жыл бұрын
Braveheart is a ridiculous film but in a fantasticly fun way. As someone that grew up in Scotland in the 90s it will always hold a huge amount nostalgia for me. But put them side by side Rob Roy is a better film in almost every way (budget might be the only exception).
@abdiver12 Жыл бұрын
What a wonderful story. You are so lucky to have been a part, no matter how small, of a truly remarkable film. Thank you for sharing it!
@AstonishingSodApe4 жыл бұрын
The lack of music makes this all the more epic.
@MerkinMuffly Жыл бұрын
They learned a few things from The Duelists
@vikinghex6 ай бұрын
no music needed agreed @@MerkinMuffly
@DivineRedwood3 жыл бұрын
"I hope your grace will live so long." What a great exit line communicating the idea, there won't be a "next" time.
@TheLastOfTheFinest807 жыл бұрын
Probably one of the best sword fights in cinema history.
@fidenemini1117 жыл бұрын
Most realistic.
@finntastique38916 жыл бұрын
Well made indeed, but so is the scene from the 1974 Polish film "The Deluge": kzbin.info/www/bejne/opuoqYd7hbN5pK8
@MrM0rb6 жыл бұрын
@Finnstastique Now that's a real sword fight scene ! Thank you !
@finntastique38916 жыл бұрын
You are welcome.
@rexmundi31086 жыл бұрын
I can only agree.
@q-fesh34982 жыл бұрын
Never underestimate the strength of the hands of a working man.
@cleanliving16126 жыл бұрын
Back when we were just realizing Liam Neeson had amazing action movie potential. Also so much more intense with the dead silence of no music
@gezzarandom3 жыл бұрын
@Greg Elchert Sadly that’ll never happen 😥
@Morhgoz3 жыл бұрын
MUsic and lack of it is great effect in good and arguable also in bad movies. As good music music choice might even turn bad or mediocre movie in to something better!
@rafaellima832 жыл бұрын
He actually already had an academy award nomination when doing this movie.
@Talkinknicks2 жыл бұрын
He was The Darkman way before this, a super hero action movie
@kkandsims46122 жыл бұрын
Back when he got fucked over Liam can act but he’s left made the same movie every ear for the last 26 years but I digress I still watch all of them 😂😂
@NeonClock2 жыл бұрын
"You haven't beaten me. You've sacrificed sure footing for a killing stroke!"
@themutualfriend52862 ай бұрын
Haha I get that reference 😊
@enekaitzteixeira701027 күн бұрын
@@themutualfriend5286 Where is It from?
@mrquirky362621 күн бұрын
@@enekaitzteixeira7010 Batman Begins. Liam Neeson says it to Bruce Wayne during their sword training.
@JohnDoe-wo5on7 жыл бұрын
One of the finest filmed swordsfights ever filmed, if not the best.
@tommyt19715 жыл бұрын
I've heard that experts agree.
@Minotaur-ey2lg4 жыл бұрын
The Deluge. This one’s great too, also more popular outside of Poland.
@Udontkno73 жыл бұрын
also love the duelist
@ellendonahue5563 жыл бұрын
What about the epic sword fight in The Princess bride between Inigo Montoya and Westley the farm boy?
@KvltKrist3 жыл бұрын
Born to the Sabre! Add that to the list of good recommendations here.
@paulcooper88186 жыл бұрын
Thanks for including the scene where Montrose removes the locket from the lifeless Cunningham, thereby revealing the true nature of their kinship.
@Lightingwarrior6 жыл бұрын
Its was never really confirmed with certainty that Cunningham was Montrose bastard son, it is possible that Cunningham was his nephew and that Cunningham's mother was Montrose's sister
@nicolashrv6 жыл бұрын
I think it was suggested in the movie he was his bastard. I saw this movie like 20 years ago, but I seem to remember Montrose gave a speech about his relation with the woman on the picture.......he later removed it to keep this as a secret.Otherwise, who cares if people find out he was his nephew?
@Lightingwarrior6 жыл бұрын
nicolashrv Montrose speech could be said for either a sister or a former lover, it doesn' dismiss the possibility of Cunningham being his nephew and as for the picture, it clear that Montrose had little liking for Cunningham and that he took the picture because he did not think Cunningham was worthy of having a picture of his sister given how he was a bastard one way or the other. Now that doesn't mean I don't agree with the theory, it's just that there isn't a very clear picture of the true origins of Cunningham and I have seen plenty of movies and tv shows mislead us with false hints or clues
@nicolashrv6 жыл бұрын
Well.....for me what gives away he is his son, is the way Montrose looks dissapointed at him for being a reckless asshole. If he was his nephew, I don't see how he could put his life in jeopardy by always getting into duels.....what he will tell his family?............on the other hand if he was a bastard, is a loose end. And what's more important. If he was his nephew, then why being so secret about him? is not a shame to have a nephew. It is to have a bastard.
@desepticon45 жыл бұрын
In the film, Tim Roth's character is referred to as one of Montrose's "likely lads".
@mattkemerait5 жыл бұрын
Tim Roth stole the show, such a good character.
@Schrankerle5 жыл бұрын
Although I like Montrose and his jibes. "He sees through it Archie".
@jacobpeters54584 жыл бұрын
@@Schrankerle one of the best lines from Montrose, when Archie's throat was healing: "He speaks! One should never underestimate the healing powers of hatred!" lol
@dallesamllhals91613 жыл бұрын
"Good" why not "nice"? ;-P
@TheBermudaMan3 жыл бұрын
A good character, in the sense that the entire audience breathed a sigh of relief when the bastard was finally killed.
@cheeseandonions95583 жыл бұрын
by "good" I presume you mean "evil"?
@theselector47332 жыл бұрын
That cut down the left shoulder gets me every time. The look on his face and the way he falls is gold.
@user-fb5bq6pb6y Жыл бұрын
Absolute savage injury cuts his chest wide open it looks like he cut through the bone too
@gb-jg1ud Жыл бұрын
@@user-fb5bq6pb6y roth acting going into shock and trauma is amazing
@69jbr69 Жыл бұрын
He didn't even flinch when the sword flipped back over and almost hit him in the face when he fell. Legendary acting.
@gb-jg1ud Жыл бұрын
@@69jbr69 I know.. Right. That flip was totally random ..and a bit dangerous even if it was a dulled blade. I am curious how many takes they did of that final scene
@reubensher81448 ай бұрын
Anatomically doesnt seem plausible that he should bleed from his mouth...or maybe the wound did slice the top of his heart to the gut..its a movie..damn..
@kakonis4 жыл бұрын
What makes this scene so great is not how masterful they are with their weapons (though they are) but how they're not unrealistically inhuman. They both look tired and scared, as anyone would be in this kind of fight.
@kodesh16742 жыл бұрын
Tim Roth is so calm here it’s giving me the creeps😂😂😂
@SStupendous2 жыл бұрын
@@kodesh1674 Should see him in the Hateful Eight
@brushwolf2 жыл бұрын
Tired and scared? Archibald exhibits nothing but cockiness and over-confidence from the beginning of the duel to where he gets split into two peices. He even betrays his smugness with smiles during the fight.
@powerdriller41242 жыл бұрын
Cunningham was scared only during the last three seconds.
@ravensong9030 Жыл бұрын
@@powerdriller4124 As a matter of fact, halfway into the fight he seems to realize it's getting more difficult than he imagined. Still convinced that he should win, but unpleasantly surprised
@cool_mule Жыл бұрын
I can't explain it, but Tim Roth's fall when he dies is magnificent.
@ThatOneHelluvaImp Жыл бұрын
Yeah Fr
@KermitOfWar11 ай бұрын
@@ThatOneHelluvaImp He dressed like a girl & fell down like a girl. 👌
@PsychotropicAeonian8 ай бұрын
kinda scary how close his blade fell to his face, even if it's blunt that tip could take an eye out
@mgbrown297 ай бұрын
He would have lost 15 pints of blood in seconds due to such a cut.
@NickiDC3 ай бұрын
His inflated sense of self, his illusion of being untouchable, both fell with his lifeless body. What a fool.
@omgsgg2 жыл бұрын
The only reason I watch Rob Roy is Tim Roth's performance. Easily one of the best villains on screen, and this duel is epic. Beautifully paced and choreographed.
@dearbrad1996 Жыл бұрын
It makes you wonder what his life was like. Sure it would have been tough but his behaviour suggests a great loathing for humanity
@vdLeo-je6os11 ай бұрын
I think Its better if we watch it for the performances of Jessica Lange and Liam Neeson. I respect your opinion but Tim Roth's acting is so dark. I hate that, especially when people like those kind of performances so much.
@dearbrad199611 ай бұрын
@@vdLeo-je6os I think people appreciate Roth's skills as a swordsman. His arrogance would rightly jarr a few viewers, a sign of his acting prowess
@vdLeo-je6os11 ай бұрын
@@dearbrad1996 Granted
@vdLeo-je6os11 ай бұрын
@@dearbrad1996 But on the other hand I have a feeling that some people are fond of him because they are mean too and not only for his fighting skills.
@Batesey1175 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best sword fights I’ve seen in movies. Well choreographed
@desdicado9995 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/opuoqYd7hbN5pK8
@robertrobek724418 күн бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnbLk5t-mcutpbs
@air-headedaviator18053 жыл бұрын
“Peace has cost you your strength. Victory has defeated you.”
@kornelhenrik335011 ай бұрын
The choreographer was Nick Gillard, who also worked on the Star Wars I-II-III films. Brilliant
@rullmourn1142 Жыл бұрын
Tim Roth should have won an Oscar for best supporting actor for his portrayal of the villain, Archibald Cunningham in this film.
@franklesher4459 Жыл бұрын
In that, Kevin Spacey took it for his role in “The Usual Suspects”
@dsshortfilms87234 жыл бұрын
I love the detail that shows that Rob Roy is so exhausted, near the end he just drags his sword on the ground just to save some strength in his arm for another block or attack.
@omegastar193 жыл бұрын
Ive seen someone else point out that this was probably an exaggeration by Rob Roy to lure his opponent into a false sense of security. Certainly he was close to exhaustion, but he played it up.
@plainlake3 жыл бұрын
He also have a giant sword in terms of Dueling. A few swings of that will tire you out.
@molasorrosalom48463 жыл бұрын
Not really that sword probably weighed about 7-12 lbs.
@LoremasterYnTaris3 жыл бұрын
@@molasorrosalom4846 Hate to be 'that guy', but in actuality the two blades are nearly identical in weight, both coming in at approximately 2.2 pounds (1.1 kilos). Where the rapier does have an advantage is that it has about 5 inches of length on the broadsword, as well as its geometry and weight being well distributed for quick thrusting attacks. The broadsword's main advantage here is that its weight distribution lets it cut, chop and slice much more effectively, meaning that any single injury inflicted is likely to be much more severe than the relatively shallow cuts we see Cunningham inflict. Of course, a swing with a broadsword will still tire someone out much faster than a swing with a rapier, but that's mostly due to economy of motion as opposed to any difference in the weight of the blades. Swinging just about any sword is more tiring than thrusting with it.
@HobbitBabe3 жыл бұрын
Actually, I’m pretty sure that was partly a trap. Lol
@ziweiyuan2 жыл бұрын
The expression on Neeson's face after the first pass is perfect...it's the epitome of "Oh shit, this guy's good."
@spoonriver19812 жыл бұрын
I loved "Rob Roy"! I liked everything - the screenplay, the duel, the landscapes, the actors (I mean, Tim Roth, Liam Neeson, Jessica Lange, John Hurt, Brian Cox all together). I was literally in love with this movie, my mum bought me the videotape and it's insane how many times I watched and rewatched it! How I miss those years...
@AstonishingSodApe2 жыл бұрын
It’s exactly because of people like you I take the time to post scenes from old movies like this here. Enjoy!
@malteschmiedecke924311 ай бұрын
Sacrifice to gain victory - best cinematic duell I've ever seen, my highest respect to the coreographers, doubles and actors
@robertrobek724418 күн бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnbLk5t-mcutpbs
@jlogan22284 жыл бұрын
Probably one of the strongest psychological advantages Archibald has is that he keeps cutting Roy off every time he goes to attack or evade and just sits there staring him down like "we both know I'm toying with you"
@jacobpeters54583 жыл бұрын
Roth's small stature paradoxically makes him so much more lethal with the thinner, lighter sword - keeps swiping at the legs + quick stabs, while easily dodging the slow, heavy, high attacks. being 6'2" I would've shit my pants against a little dude like that
@TheGothicRichard2 жыл бұрын
Archibald is too small, fast, innovative and vicious for Rob. All that space to move. He can just slice Rob to ribbons and hop around him like a horsefly. He is small so he is not going to tire at all. He can cut on him all day. Rob was no match.
@jlogan22282 жыл бұрын
@@jacobpeters5458 yep. As a big dude myself i absolutely HATE fencing small nimble people bc I just cannot keep up with them and they never get tired.
@reganator5000Ай бұрын
the weird thing is, how he loses is genuinely in the manuals. The older ones come from times when duels to the death were... not rare, so include moves that will cripple you, but will let you be old and crippled, rather than young and dead.
@enekaitzteixeira701027 күн бұрын
These comments are so idiotic.
@robbroadhead34955 жыл бұрын
I remember how suprised and amazed I was with the final outcome of this fight.
@AstonishingSodApe5 жыл бұрын
Rob Broadhead You must’ve watched it in the nineties, way before the Internet and spoilers.
@excellinkus4 жыл бұрын
I’m still amazed and I’ve seen the movie twice (though long ago). Archie’s domination of Roy was so convincing and complete that I forgot Roy grabbed Archie’s sword at the end and almost cleaved him in half. But I wonder why Archie didn’t simply pull the sword out of Roy’s hand? All I can think is that Rob Roy was bending the sword down, or gripping it with such superhuman strength that Archibald couldn’t withdraw it, like Excalibur lodged inextricably in the stone, or that it surprised Archie so much that he froze. Roth played the scene so well that forever after he became one of my favourite Hollywood “heavies” despite his stature. He reprised his role as a man capable of unexpected extreme violence in a recent Amazon Prime flick called Tin Star.
@antonboludo88864 жыл бұрын
Rob Roy always has a bag of tricks up his sleeve ;-)
@pantherplatform4 жыл бұрын
I watched this movie a couple years ago while visiting relatives and it blew my mind. What a great story.
@angelapostolov34064 жыл бұрын
@@excellinkus Well, at the beginning of the movie during the first duel of Archibald against Guthrie (the strong guy with bad teeth), Guthrie squeezed Archibald's upper arm and mocked him that the muscles aren't developed, and he'd be better off using a musket. Perhaps this is foreshadowing the final duel, when Rob grabbed Archibald's rapier and he isn't strong enough to pull it free.
@RoyaEnfieldBSAman Жыл бұрын
An amazing David v Goliath duel. Roth's strategy to tire Neeson out was very smart, until that last moment of sheer will. Love this scene.
@jimmccormick609111 ай бұрын
I am not entirely sure Roth wanted to tire him out. I think Roth simply wanted to show he had the superior skill. This is demonstrated at how easily he can get past Neeson's blade and inflict damage, but not sustain any in return. I think he simply thought he was better...
@CamcolitoАй бұрын
I think Roth's character was just a far superior trained duelist. His arrogance and desire to gloat got him killed.
@johnfay89316 жыл бұрын
I love the attention to detail - you can see Roth's exposed ribs peeking out from his blouse as he falls.
@jlogan22284 жыл бұрын
I think those are bandages bc earlier in the film he was being beaten I captivity
@thenumbah1birdman3 жыл бұрын
@@jlogan2228 he's talking about Cunningham after he gets slashed down the middle. Tim Roth is the actor for cunningham.
@phousefilms3 жыл бұрын
5:50 , you can see Cunningham's ribs from the sword stroke, a cool detail.
@Almagells2 жыл бұрын
@@phousefilms mmm....a nice rib - stake, from Mr. Cunnigham!
@whynottalklikeapirat4 жыл бұрын
This may seem weird but I always felt like Roth maybe took some inspiration from some of the more temperamental tennis players or something. There is as strange sense of sports competition about his approach almost like he is scoring points every time he cuts his opponent. The duel itself has some of the same vibe or rythm as a tennis match - quiet and intense, players attacking and defending, analysing and testing. Only the sound of exertion and the tools of the trade. Maybe the whole choreography was inspired by that. And it's extra horrifying because there is no applause or audience response, and the stakes are not points but life or death.
@snoodledumpling44864 жыл бұрын
Well, by this point in history dueling was just as much a competitive sport as it was a means of settling disputes. There were several different well-established 'schools' or dueling styles that each had their own emphasis...honestly, the biggest difference between professional sports of the modern day and dueling in the early 18th century was that dueling had a much higher chance of killing one or more of the participants and/or bystanders. It didn't take much changing to make it an acceptable Olympic sport.
@whynottalklikeapirat4 жыл бұрын
@@snoodledumpling4486 I am not making a point about the history of swordfighting. I am talking about how they dramatized the fight. This is a fight to the death, so it's not about dueling for the sport of it. There is no reason at all for someone engaged in a fight to the death, in the manner of this particular fight, to behave like they are merely participating in some sort of somewhat risky competition. And from a narrative point of view it is meaningless to import this aspect of it in the final fight. This is all about character. It is a final showdown and a meeting of particular forces. Roth comes across so much more scary because he has the confidence to execute this fight AS IF he was simply sparring or in some sort of light competition for points. It highlights the fact that he is a technically superior figther and that he is playing with his victim. Rob wins only by playing to his arrogance and his readiness to believe he is facing a simple brute. He is exploiting his vanity, which is really his only weak spot at this point. My point being that this is about drama and narrative technique, not about historicity. Stories are not histories. In this context historicity is only relevant if it can be exploited to tell the specfic story at hand.
@NobleNemesis4 жыл бұрын
I feel like it's less likely that it was inspired by that, and more likely that many sports are intrinsically similar to the old ways of combat.
@whynottalklikeapirat4 жыл бұрын
@@NobleNemesis In all fairness I think my observation, right or wrong, is a little more particular than that. I am talking about a set of specific moves and mannerisms, and a certain choreographic style. Choreograhy is not loosely organized, it is as tight as the rest of the visual narrative and made to have a very specific effect, narrative content and simultaneously communicate character and advance the plot. They are both fencers but what I am talking about applies only Roth. So there is no random or general resemblance here, if it's there it's deliberate, and you have to ask yourself "what would be the particular, and specifically relevant narrative function of that for this particular story". Then - you mention "old ways of combat" like it is one singular object of comparison. But a boxing match does not unfold like a Tae Kwon Do match and a kendo fight does not look like a fight between medieval swordsmen and none of them look like golf or football. This is to some degree because the rules and conditions of competition are different which is again a difference from a real fight to the death, making for completely different strategies and physical expressions and forms of engagement. I'd concede that certainly there are fundamental and universal elements to melee fighting in general, but what immediately tends to come across in a visual sense are the obvious visual differences of style and aesthetic which mirror the time, place, materials, culture and fighting circumstances of their particular origin. There is a wealth of SPECIFIC INFORMATION in that. Visual narrative is made up of narrative specifics, and therefore, when done well, not concerned with summarizing the general such as "what is the same for most fights". It's about what is specific to THIS fight and it's overall character/plot function. Every moment is a potential narrative asset (and potential narrative noise if not deliberately harnessed). However - my point was actually perhaps more about Roths acting when he is NOT directly engaged in fencing. In his inbetween mannerisms and responses the situation as a whole: when he just "scored a point" when he is getting ready, when he is managing his energy or frustration. These are all non-fight movements that - as I've said reminded me a lot of some of the more temperamental tennis players, he is even doing a few signature "racket-like" swings. It is scary PRECISELY because he treats a fight to the death as a competitive match for points. I wouldn't argue that I am 100% sure that a tennis reference is what went into ROths preparations, it's just that there are specific places where thats what it looks like to me and it certainly serves the narrative purpose. But ... speaking as a sometimes screenwriter, I am 100% sure there is nothing random or accidental about what we are presented with and I am sure there is no single ancient carbon copy of what a fight looks like and how the people involved respond to the situation . What I am referring to here is quite specific, not generalised, and mainly serves to communicate key aspects of the characters and the nature of the dramatic forces that are clashing, through them and their place within, and personal take on, the culture and time in which the movie takes place, and to imply or suggest relevant backstory.
@johnsantos89934 жыл бұрын
@@whynottalklikeapirat I appreciate you taking the time to defend your position regarding the tennis reference although you didn't really have to since the original comment 100% on point
@dylanmiller91623 жыл бұрын
Legit my favorite part of this is the heavy breathing, which rarely gets emphasized, but as a former fencer, that shit is EXHAUSTING
@stennishampton65346 жыл бұрын
"I will know who to wager on the next time ", hahaha, hope your grace will live so long". Perfect last words, had to search for a video that included that last statement.
@amirm9994 жыл бұрын
Man if this movie was made in the 2020's Rob Roy wouls have some stupid superpowers and Tim Roth would be a vampire or some shit . Long live the 90's and unforgetable movies like Rob Roy and The last of the Mohecans.....
@AstonishingSodApe4 жыл бұрын
Amir M Preach brother
@halleck34 жыл бұрын
Well said. I don't dislike the Avengers and that kind of stuff... but nothing like a good one-on-one battle, no crazy powers, no epic music, just two folks going at it. It'll come back into style.
@AstonishingSodApe4 жыл бұрын
halleck3 I agree, the lack of music only makes this even more epic
@pipioloes19084 жыл бұрын
plus both would have been fighting shirtless showing off an 5%fat muscled body.
@jamesg8724 жыл бұрын
Add Dances With Wolves, Legends Of The Fall, Braveheart, 13th Warrior
@Justin-nx3pw5 жыл бұрын
Anyone here from Corridor Crew stuntmen react?
@bombappetit5 жыл бұрын
🙋
@mulawarmankwsuper4 жыл бұрын
Which episode?
@Bazookatone14 жыл бұрын
@@mulawarmankwsuper Yeah, I didn't realise they'd done this one!
@MustafaAli-xj6lq4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@LATVERIAN13 жыл бұрын
"Neither asked, nor given". Tim Roth's Archie Cunningham has got to be one of the most vile of villains ever to grace the big screen. My personal motto is: "A film is only as good as it's ending". With this in mind, nothing could have more been more gratifying than watching Rob "finally" put an end to Archie's evil. And there's little doubt that Archie was sent straight to perdition. This film truly delivered.
@matvangogh Жыл бұрын
, Roth did a great job making u hate him.
@ricardoortiz4870 Жыл бұрын
@@matvangogh I never knew Emil Blonsky’s got impressive sword fighting skills.
@KamikazeCommie501 Жыл бұрын
Terrible ending to a fight. Not only was it utterly stupid (Roth's character would just slide the blade through his hands into his throat, probably severing a few fingers in the process), but I saw that exact move coming from the second Neeson's character started looking tired. He was never gonna win without some unrealistic garbage like that. In reality, Neeson would be dead without having even scratched Roth.
@LATVERIAN1 Жыл бұрын
@@KamikazeCommie501 Valid or not, still, seeing Archie "finally" get almost split in two was most satisfying.
@valkoharja11 ай бұрын
@@KamikazeCommie501 that's not true. Blades can be grabbed, and once grabbed there's so much friction you can't do what you suggest. Study a topic before you make such claims.
@mbphilly795 жыл бұрын
Cunningham's own wretchedness is his own undoing. That, and misjudging Rob Roy MacGregor yet again. If we are being honest, Cunningham probably could have finished off Rob earlier with one thrust, but he has to toy with him to watch him suffer and kill him slowly. Rob's swordfighting is basically just prolonging the inevitable, even though he holds up decently. By taunting Rob at the very end, he gave him just enough leverage to turn the tables.
@cr0we3 жыл бұрын
Frankly, Rob Roy didn't use that basket hilt as he should have. He blocked too much with the blade when he could have used the basket to block with (the entire reason for the design). He also should have attacked Cunningham's sword lower toward the hilt in an attempt to break it. Should have also used his off-hand more. And yes, I am trained in medieval fighting techniques, though it has been some time.
@kreliann3 жыл бұрын
@@cr0we how about charging/tackling him after a parry, using his way bigger body mass ? The rules stated against using other weapons, not his own body. A sword is no good without room to swing it
@vitezjura3 жыл бұрын
@@cr0we Tim's character is obviously much faster and quicker than Rob Roy in this scene, targeting his rapier would just result in Tim evading, dodging or piercing Rob Roy.
@AudieHolland2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Cunningham's death can only be blamed on his arrogance and stupidity. Thinking Roy was already a dead man when he was on his knees with Cunningham's blade at his throat. Fortunately I have never had to fight for my life but if I ever would have, I would make sure my enemy was deader than dead, if I had the upper hand. You know, like you have to dig out a Terminator's chip out of his robot brain to make sure he'll never rise again.
@TwopawАй бұрын
Archie's edge held out like a beggar fending off a bear, multiple cuts on Rob's body and not a one on Cunningham all but telegraphed his blows. Of course he uses his training, Mummy can afford it for him. The little man, a third Rob Roy's mass and half his height, in a poncy vest he'd throw in the trash after a tantrum that the velour got a scratch, stares at the wounds he's caused and the big man's standing there, not angry, but concentrating, and disappointed, I suppose. "I see a boy that bit off more than he could swallow, and now he's choking on his pride, the savage master he refused to tear away, because he liked it too much. An expensive funeral isn't any less the burial of a dead man, and a young one at that. I may have offended your pride but you set your own neck in the nock, asked the axe to descend and now you're but an ebbing tide of warmth and can't imagine anything else. It does feel good, doesn't it? But you could do better. One day someone else will, but that will not be your sunrise to see." "Why the need to throw your life away? You chose the same road your forefathers set, as often as you rebelled against, but you still put on the wig, and you smiled, as if somehow your only advantage was not paid for from the gold you inherited, like the dishonour of your kin descending, and that you did not earn but accepted as a boy's handsel. I bet they'll wonder about the cut when the parking lot's dug up; you know how revisionist history tends to go. They'll mistake you for someone else, of course, Archibald, who wore a wig anyway. A pity for the chain you did not break, but that I needed to cut on behalf of your cowardice." "So a coward you are, who could not ask disabuse of a life you did not want from your knife-edge. I did you a favour, and at least a kindness. It'll be warm down there, at least in summertime. Safe, where you'll be safe. And everyone will know where you are."
@aaron617811 ай бұрын
Goosebumps man. Roth, or the stuntman in any case, is a remarkable swordsman. His movement is a thing to behold.
@Floridaburg-6 жыл бұрын
“Looks at Rob” Bruh, hold my wig....
@NobleNemesis5 жыл бұрын
"Bruh better hold my weave, Imma boutta handle this!"
@DarkLOREDash4 жыл бұрын
I love how his cocky carefree smile drops wtih the wig and you see his cold calculating demeanor appear, like lifting off a mask & seeing his true face, for the first time.
@Floridaburg-4 жыл бұрын
( takes off wig ) Imma bout to ruin this whole man’s bank loan
@Kyle-mw3bo Жыл бұрын
The lack of music shows such confidence in the drama and action of the scene to carry the audience's attention.
@Petrichorscreen Жыл бұрын
Absolutely Amazing choreography, the heavy breathing, the proper techniques by actor Tim Roth; how he kept so low during his attacks, something underlooked by most who dont know anything about fighting. How in shape both of them had to be to pull this scene off. It's all incredible, and a look and how brutal things were back in the day. Dueling with SWORDS for crying out loud. Two sharpened pieces of forged steel. Dammmn.
@robertrobek724418 күн бұрын
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@billbadson7598 Жыл бұрын
As someone who knows nothing about sword fighting outside of KZbin videos, this strikes me as a realistic (and high-level) fight, at least on the side of the villain. He’s clearly reading body language, looking for openings, trying to MAKE openings with feints and taunts and false openings on his own part. You can just imagine the thoughts going through his head, looking at Liam Neeson’s character like a puzzle to solve, just super professional, trying different angles of attack in a very practiced way.
@Draculas-knight11 ай бұрын
Minus the blood on his hand , the blade would not have cut his palm , besides you control opponents blade and the fight is over
@PapaWolfGTG2 жыл бұрын
That moment at 3:00 was so telling. That swipe and expression was like he was saying "Okay, I toyed with him at the start, but that last exchange I should've had him! Where did that energy come from?!?" was great.
@Sharpe15028 ай бұрын
Came here after watching Dune because I’m pretty sure this was used as inspiration for Feyd and Paul’s duel.
@wyzt8 ай бұрын
100% this instantly popped into my head watching the feyd duel in theaters
@KenJohnsonMusic5 жыл бұрын
Rob needs to work on his cardio.
@Dickensian895 жыл бұрын
In fairness, Rob is still recovering from a period of brutal abuse in which Cunningham held him captive, deprived him, and beat him repeatedly over a span of days, he has his chest bound up and bandaged underneath his shirt, and he is shown to wince as he takes his jacket off before the fight, so he is definitely below full fitness or strength in this scene. The interpretation could also be taken that he is exaggerating his exhaustion to play possum and get Cunningham off-guard.
@Heretic19815 жыл бұрын
@@Dickensian89 Not to mention the difference in blades. Rob's sword has to have, what, 15-20 lbs on Reggies?
@NDOhioan5 жыл бұрын
@@Heretic1981 Apologies for being a "wellakshually," but the weight of swords that size is often massively overstated. A pre-1746 basket-hilted Highland Broadsword would be around 3.5 lbs *at most,* with many being closer to 3. Granted, 3 and a half pounds is *definitely* heavy for a one-handed sword (the *largest* one-handers I've heard of are a quarter-pound shy of 4, but those were used in earlier periods) and (obviously) significantly beefier than Reggie's dueling sword, but even the largest greatswords only hit around 8 at most. A 15-lb sword is basically a fancy decoration.
@davec36514 жыл бұрын
They didn't have Peloton back then.
@jlogan22284 жыл бұрын
@@Heretic1981 no those basket hilt claymores are about 2-3 lbs tops and pretty well balanced. But swinging ANYTHING around for intense bursts will wear someone out fast
@SerCorydonRivers5 жыл бұрын
even when he does something like a half spin strike none of his movement is really exaggerated and his speed is almost terrifying. its like he's just dancing with a peasant for fun lol
@jlogan22284 жыл бұрын
That's the thing about fighting with these smaller swords and epees, you have a sharp piece of steel so you don't really need much power to cause nasty wounds or run it through flesh and cloth. Speed, accuracy, and precision are the determining factors vs size and stregnth bc as seen in the clip if you can't hit the opponent but they can hit you you're in trouble
@fakename29264 жыл бұрын
J Logan the presence of armor changes things.
@ttchme98164 жыл бұрын
Thats because he's not winding up. Usually the actors will wind up so that other non fencing people can actually see what's going on but when they don't, you'll see fast movement like these. Its a common sight in hema.
@ericolivencia4 жыл бұрын
Too bad the plot required Liam to win, because this could have been a classic David v Goliath moment...except here Goliath wins. In truth, Liam did lose this battle, and handily, but Roth was undone by his last moment of hubris, trying to finish him off in style rather than just going for the kill, allowing bad ass Liam to palm the sword and win through brute strength and grit. Either way, major kudos to all production and staging elements required to pull this one off, staging the 6'4 Neeson against the 5'7 Roth, particularly the choreographer and cinematographer. Classic scene, one of the best of its kind!
@shrapnel774 жыл бұрын
That fight area definitely favored Reggie who was able to use his superior skill and speed to his advantage. He was able to maintain distance and sometimes circle Rob to get him of balance. In a fistfight, Rob would have beaten Reggie to death in under a minute.
@fjccommish4 жыл бұрын
Fop fighting, fencing fighting, is like that. It's for show, for honor. Even if to the death, it's still stylized fighting.
@cr0we3 жыл бұрын
The only way to win in that fight was through strength. Though the basket hilt actually can be a finesse weapon if used properly. The basket itself can be used to deflect blows and uses far less strength and energy to do. He wasted a lot of energy swinging that blade around.
@robertrobek724418 күн бұрын
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@martymcmannis86623 жыл бұрын
This was a great movie with a killer ending. Thanks for the memories
@AstonishingSodApe3 жыл бұрын
You’re very welcome! Glad you enjoyed it.
@oldencreek65873 жыл бұрын
That one polish sabre duel is nice and all, but this is my favorite cinema sword fight of all time. This whole shot 3:52 to 4:01 right here really is remarkable choreography, and how the tables immediately turned in the other's favor at the end of the duel was shocking.
@suonatar15 жыл бұрын
I imagine, that duel gave some inspiration for Viper vs the Mountain. I don't know why, but it seems similar to me.
@Mink-yu8nu5 жыл бұрын
I'm here because the G.O.T showrunners said this was an influence for the Brienne vs The Hound fight.
@Andres_23073 жыл бұрын
Amazing performance of Tim Roth. Really he is a wonderful actor. Thank you very much for share, Michael. Kind regards from Chile. 👌👌👌
@AstonishingSodApe3 жыл бұрын
De nada amigo! Hasta
@BLTV_Photoshop11 күн бұрын
One of the best scenes in cinematic history.
@christhornley16645 жыл бұрын
An excellent sequence, I'm no expert on sword duelling, but it looked very convincing to me.
@elroma77122 жыл бұрын
This is one of my dad's favorite movies.
@AstonishingSodApe2 жыл бұрын
He has good taste.
@toneywhite72 жыл бұрын
Easily one of the best action scenes in cinema, great villainy by Tim Roth. I also thought it was incredibly poignant how Montrose took the picture of his mother, vaguely but unassuredly suggesting he was Archie's father.
@justinholland9844 Жыл бұрын
How do you know it was his mother? I thought it might be some girl he had truly loved once, thus giving his character a hint of humanity at the end.
@toneywhite7 Жыл бұрын
@Justin Holland the picture in the amulet around archies neck is his mother its covered in a scene earlier in the movie.
@TheMisterGuy Жыл бұрын
@@justinholland9844 "How do you know it was his mother? I thought it might be some girl he had truly loved once" They say earlier in the movie that it's his mother. It's also hinted at when Montrose introduces Archie to Argyll, and Argyll asks if this is "another of your likely lads", meaning "probably your illegitimate son". It's also established that Archie doesn't have a father, which is part of the explanation for his terrible behavior, and why his mother would send Archie to Montrose for supervision and guidance.
@KhurshidsChannel11 ай бұрын
One of my favourite movies. Thank you for sharing.
@AstonishingSodApe11 ай бұрын
You’re welcome!
@gezzarandom3 жыл бұрын
Two different styles of sword fencing here. Cunningham was going for death by a thousand cuts, MacGregor was aiming for that one shot which would’ve finished the fight right there and then. Fascinating
@powerdriller41243 жыл бұрын
The styles are not comparable. Archie´s is real professional style. MacGregor´s is good amateurism. He wins not because of style, but through a loophole in the rules. The next contests surely will get the admonitory prevention against "holding your opponent sword through any ruse or device".
@AudieHolland2 жыл бұрын
Nope, he could have killed Rob Roy every time he hit him and chose to inflict a minor cut. You know a small knife can be deadly if inserted with surgical precision. Just go for the jugular. That was exactly what the arrogant nobleman was doing.
@myflatlineconstruct Жыл бұрын
2023..I come back here time to time. Although an amature and a brut, Liam uses his noodle. So skill fails to intellect. Kinda weird I suppose. I'd go as far as irony but I'm not going to Google this early morning. Ta ta ya cunts. See ya next year
@tomsckay7point0 Жыл бұрын
Yes, and his strategy dulled his blade enough that the grab was possible.
@Nuvendil2 ай бұрын
@@tomsckay7point0 You can grab a sharpened blade with your bare hands. So long as you don't draw it across your skin, it is unlikely to cut you. Grabbing blades is mentioned quite a bit in manuals of the period. You can even mordhau - hold a longsword by the blade and use the crossguard as a hammer - with your bare hands. I've actually experimented with that one myself a little bit and it does work. Though it is nerve-wracking.
@bt10ant4 жыл бұрын
Kudos to the choreographer and director here. (Plus the cinematographer and editor)
@mauricio4605 жыл бұрын
"I will hold you to our bargain" Brief and powerful.
@rafaelenriquecataldofrez9454 жыл бұрын
Uno de los finales mas intensos del cine. Uno queda con un nervio y a la vez con una sensación de placer al ver que el bueno gana, a pesar de tener todo en su contra. Muerete Archibald. Que gran actuación de ambos. Siempre le muestro este final a mis amigos que no han visto Rob Roy.
@michaelmaguire12296 жыл бұрын
You know this scene is perhaps one of the greatest scenes in movie history. Even though he's an evil bastard, brilliantly played by Tim Roth, I still feel very bad for his end. So crushingly sad and brutal
@NeoN-PeoN5 жыл бұрын
And lowly. Roy technically broke the rules. But who can follow the code of honor when it means your submissive death? I guess Christians technically can....
@Ryan-we9in5 жыл бұрын
Neon Peon Only three rules: no throwing blades, no back-stabbing, no weapons other than one sword for each.
@jakemarek47465 жыл бұрын
@@NeoN-PeoN I don't think he broke the rules at all. Grasping the blade is technically a parry or block; Rob didn't use a weapon.
@NeoN-PeoN5 жыл бұрын
@@jakemarek4746 I thought once you submitted it was over. Otherwise the dude would have just stabbed his ass instead of holding it to his throat.
@ArvelDreth5 жыл бұрын
@@NeoN-PeoN he didn't give verbal submission and it was supposed to be a duel to the death anyway.
@PKTraceur2 жыл бұрын
I love how cunningham is clearly playing with him, yet roth makes it look so realistic.
@abdulkarlkyum36042 жыл бұрын
This film came out more or less same time as brave heart which took most of the viewers and accolades from Rob Roy but nonetheless Rob Roy was a brilliant film! ❤️
@lordshell4 жыл бұрын
Such a great duel. I still remember it after 25 years.
@alasdairmackintosh2 жыл бұрын
This and Duelists starring Keith Carridine and Harvey Keitel are the best sword fights I've seen in film
@aubryjackson92109 ай бұрын
Props to Tim Roth for not blinking when his sword hit him in the face after he fell.
@voorheesjason31618 ай бұрын
Tim Roth is unreal ... his performance is astonishing and legendary here. Wow
@rschiwal11 ай бұрын
Best movie duel in history.
@Stalicone4 жыл бұрын
“Aye, Cunningham was nigh cleaved in twain by a blow most ferocious.”
@AstonishingSodApe4 жыл бұрын
Is that from the book?
@Stalicone4 жыл бұрын
@@AstonishingSodApe No - it was just me, waxing poetic...channeling Shakespeare
@AstonishingSodApe4 жыл бұрын
@@Stalicone That was very nice sir!
@VanGlorious-lo5iz4 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Quite.
@ryanfoster28693 жыл бұрын
@@AstonishingSodApe I mean, considering the dialogue structure in the movie, it wouldn't be out of place.
@ramonepedgio596426 күн бұрын
One of the greatest swordfights in cinema. I've seen this maybe dozens of times. Even though I know what's going to happen, it's still always pretty damn exciting.
@sureshot839911 ай бұрын
This is an early-ish Neeson movie, but even here you can see he has a particular set of skills.
@cuchulain16475 жыл бұрын
Such a wonderful fight. Such a wonderful movie.
@aminakishk65713 жыл бұрын
Yes, lesson learned NEVER give up !!!!!!!!! it was hard til the end !!!!!!
@The_Gallowglass4 жыл бұрын
I love this scene, but the whole movie is insanely packed with good actors who portray their characters real human beings interwoven into a wonderful story.
@KesselRunner606 Жыл бұрын
A fight scene, at its heart, is not about amazing choreography or fancy moves, and certainly not shaky cam. It’s an intense conversation between two characters. Each combatant's moves should tell you abour their personality, their purpose, who they are. It's not just action, it's physical dialogue. And that’s what makes this scene so great to study.
@robertrobek724418 күн бұрын
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@PrimalElf Жыл бұрын
One of the greatest swords fights in cinema history
@philipsalama808311 ай бұрын
I like how the "effeminate gentleman" character in this film isn't a pipsqueak, but actually a better duellist than the hero.
@hemlock3995 ай бұрын
We see throughout the film that his "effeminacy" is entirely feigned, it was a front put on at court.
@randallbelstra72282 жыл бұрын
It struck me that Rob Roy knew his opponent could out maneuver him. so he used deception. The cuts he took were something he'd be used to in fighting with claymores. He moved Roth's character into believing he won and then turned the tables. The reason I believe this is the look on Rob Roy's face and his actions in the last moment. He had that energy all along.
@AstonishingSodApe2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe he was genuinely beaten but the filmmakers wanted a twist.
@seruresto1386 Жыл бұрын
No, he was beaten. His anger and hatred of Cunningham gave him the burst of adrenaline to take the small opportunity he had, but Roy was all but finished. He went into the fight still recovering from his injuries, he wasn't 100%. He wasn't really fit to fight but that rage that saved him also put him into a losing fight to begin with.
@sammitkhandeparker8211 Жыл бұрын
@Horse Friend No, no. It's so silly. In the real world, Rob's opponent would have used many other techniques. One technique would be to leave his blade, and back off.
@sammitkhandeparkara Жыл бұрын
@Horse Friend No my friend; the scene makes for a good cinema. Cinema is suspension of reality. We go to movies for the purpose of enjoying what we know is impossible in real life. That's the reason why we love it so much.
@KamikazeCommie501 Жыл бұрын
"The cuts he took were something he'd be used to in fighting with claymores" Do you know what a claymore is? They don't just knick you, they chop you in half.
@jonathanmichiels1754 жыл бұрын
Not only one of the greatest sword fights in cinematic history, but one of the best scenes, period, in the history of cinema. Errol Flynn had many great sword fights in films such as "Robin Hood" but I do not think that they transcended mere sword fighting the way this one does into the realm of pure, human pathos. Flynn was athletic, but this is poetic. There is quite a difference.
@jonathanmichiels1754 жыл бұрын
I saw this in the cinema and went back two or three times just for the final sword duel.
@stevedavis83293 жыл бұрын
Flynn's fights were all two guys with non-period swords using them in ways that the swords weren't intended for.
@jonathanmichiels1753 жыл бұрын
@@stevedavis8329 Most of the audience would not know the difference, however. What counts is authenticity of feeling and the final scene of Rob Roy has it in spades.
@MrLive2win Жыл бұрын
The sword duel in The Great Race is right up there with this one too. More style than substance yet still fantastic too.
@Scorpio_19744 жыл бұрын
Him grabbing the end of that sword is just epic!
@oliverhertzog-haecker418129 күн бұрын
In my opinion one of the best sword fight's in movie history.
@kaguth5 жыл бұрын
I find the ending of this fight kind of similar to Obyren vs The Mountain, although the characters are completely different. One swordsman is clearly superior to the other but makes the mistake of toying with his opponent and treating them as harmless when in fact they are not. You see this kind of think in boxing and MMA too, when a fighter thinks they have it in the bag, starts showboating and next think you know they get KO'd.
@dialecticsjunkie76534 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if the Game of Thrones fight was inspired by this one. I think this one gets the rhythm of the fight better.
@Gyatt_frfr3 жыл бұрын
So true
@connormcleod95952 ай бұрын
Puts every star wars duel to shame. Magnificent ❤
@reflective_lights4 жыл бұрын
The iron grip technique out of the blue is what made this fight realistic to me. Its been mentioned in many medieval fighting manuals, and is only useful if they dont see it coming. But if they dont a sword fighter can literally stop or rip the sword out of the hands of an opponent
@jacobpeters54584 жыл бұрын
yeah I've also seen the one where the opponent grips the other's arm after a missed swing, looked pretty cool
@AndrewNenakhov Жыл бұрын
Nah, it is *extremely* easy to just pull the blade from any kind of grip a human is capable of, badly cutting the hand in the process.
@TheRmm1976 Жыл бұрын
@@AndrewNenakhov Agreed, I always question the realism of the scene even though it's an epic sword fight!
@benwaddington2186 Жыл бұрын
@@AndrewNenakhov Rubbish. He is not ‘gripping’ the blade, he is bending it! 🤦🏻♂
@dagnabbit61874 жыл бұрын
This is one of those scenes that you see more each time you watch. Look at Rob Roy’s Sponsor’s face after Archie died . I guess he has seen it before so maybe the shock of the graphic death isn’t what gives him pause . It is that he resigned himself that Rob was going to lose but he had never seen victory snatched from the jaws of inevitable defeat like that and that stunned him .
@FallenOne6695 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that Rob is more defensive in this fight. Typically, large men are shown to be very aggressive fighters, but the opposite is shown here.
@coinage4 жыл бұрын
A refreshing change, to be sure. It makes sense for his character too, since Rob is aware that Cunningham is the superior swordsman.
@IrishCarney4 жыл бұрын
Until, after Archie has cut him several times, he realizes he needs to go on the offensive before blood loss and fatigue make him helpless.
@konigeurichderwestgoten44604 жыл бұрын
As my five foot five mother used to say- “It’s the little bastards you have to watch out for.” My father said almost the same thing about Tom Cruise’s character in Collateral, a contract killer who had to have been in the military. “Five foot seven is the perfect height for Special Forces.”
@Nuvendil3 жыл бұрын
If skills are more even, they should be. In swordfighting (and most hand to hand combat), reach is a big deal. If he knew better how to use his sword, he could leverage his substantial reach advantage.
@robertwilson2142 жыл бұрын
You can't help watching Roth.Which is saying something when John Hurts in the movie.
@gcole21084 жыл бұрын
I love the strike that Roth does at 3:30! It looks like a risky move, but he knows he has the speed and skill to pull it off!
@Nuvendil3 жыл бұрын
It's risky, but he saw that his opponent had lowered his guard without creating the necessary distance. Losing track of the distance, even briefly, can be a deadly mistake.
@vivianberk5298 Жыл бұрын
Amazing sword fight. Love the contrast of sword types and fighting styles.
@chubngrub Жыл бұрын
the fact that 'Rob' was holding his apponents blade with the bones of his hands and fingers so tightley that 'Cunningham' could neither push through to 'Rob's' chest or pull the blade out from the grip is absolutely astonishing.
@TheRmm1976 Жыл бұрын
I think so too, but I must admit I've always wondered if this is even physically possible. If the sword was sharp Cunningham should have been able to move it and slice right through Rob Roy's fingers.
@olegslapins8156 Жыл бұрын
It's impossible. Would slice through as through butter.
@Nerezza1 Жыл бұрын
@@olegslapins8156 Actually it wouldn't as you can quite easily hold a sharp sword by the blade and use the hilt to strike at your opponent.
@gb-jg1ud Жыл бұрын
@@olegslapins8156 it is possible if you bend the end of the blade like he did. Look carefully. It prevents him thrusting. You can't hold it for long maybe 5 seconds..but in that time His only chance in those seconds was to pull back the blade out of his hand and strike him. However, he is so stunned and confused by the the desperate battle field move that he does not do it in time.
@alanfizzypop9607 Жыл бұрын
Cunningham had the moves and was sucked into thinking he had the job done fatel mistake
@anomalyp858411 ай бұрын
I love the detail of Rob having to hold his sword up with 2 hands after he got the cut in his shoulder (delt)...and Cunningham grinning about it.
@soupana3 жыл бұрын
I have memories from when I was a kid of my dad replaying this scene a lot because he thought it was so cool. And I agree
@kakerake601811 ай бұрын
never do anything fancy in a duel.
@vanderslagmulders3 жыл бұрын
Tim Roth has always been pretty talented at playing despicable characters, but here, he really outdid himself.
@hectorcornejo1468 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Michael for posting this in good film format. Someone else posted this duel and you could barely tell whom was whom lol.
@AstonishingSodApe Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! That’s exactly why I do it, many old movie scenes were uploaded too long ago and don’t have the image quality they deserve.
@MichaelLee-tt7gm6 жыл бұрын
I understand that Rob killed Archibald by severing the left branch of his subclavian artery, but would that cause blood to leak into his windpipe? Or is that just an extra unnecessary effect?
@Mybpeterson6 жыл бұрын
The wound looks like it slashed the lung. He was exhaling blood.
@MichaelLee-tt7gm6 жыл бұрын
That makes sense, thank you.
@livefreeordie55346 жыл бұрын
With that heavy sword, it penetrated his lung for sure. Lung shots from bullets do the same. You bleed from them a lot, then exhale blood. Frothy blood would have been more realistic as it mixes with air, but still a good effect. Lack of air, lack of blood. A pretty quick death.
@andyb.10264 жыл бұрын
A Claymore is simply a meat cleaver, no pretty dancing , cuts or ballet, one strike and goodnight
@FallenOne6695 жыл бұрын
I love how you can see Cunningham's arrogance before the duel even begins. He's so cocky that he doesn't look at his sword when taking it, causing him to fumble with it for a moment.
@wyattmann81572 жыл бұрын
5:56 Anyone else notice how Roth doesn't flinch when the sword point lands right next to his face (which definitely didn't appear planned)?